Jordy Nelson is who he is because Rodgers
Cam Newton is a Tier 3 QB - barely "startable".
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Jordy Nelson is who he is because Rodgers
Jordy Nelson has had seasons of 1263 and 15 TDs, 1314 and 8 Tds, 1539 and 13TDs, and 1257 and 14TDs over the last 5 years. There is no argument there. He's one of the best WRs in the league.
So when Jordy Nelson was out in 2015 how come the Packers leading receiver only had 800 yards? Nigga, shut up.
ALONG with the fact that when Jordy is healthy suddenly the team is unstoppable and when he is not the team is not.
And the front office..starting with Dave Gettleman letting Josh Norman walk, having a poor draft and not improving the team.
So what Tier do you think Rivers and Eli are????
Exactly.
750 yards would put you at a 50 ranking in yards in the NFL...50
So a #2 then right? Lol
Man. He doesn't know what wr1, wr2, wr3, and wr4 means.
He had two WRs with almost 900 yards, two good RBs, AR went 30 TDs 8 ints and they made it to the second round of the playoffs....its just sports talk no need to get childish
It's just that Rodgers is so fucking good people can't appreciate what someone else does for him.
His down years are better than some people's good years so people dismiss it as he's "not missing a beat" when in fact he is.
Since 2011, with Nelson on the field, Rodgers has completed 67.1 percent of his passes, registered a 113.0 passer rating and averaged 8.6 yards per attempt, compared to a 61.4 percent completion rate, a 95.4 passer rating and a 6.8 yards-per-attempt average without Nelson.
With Nelson lost to a torn ACL in 2015, the Packers ranked 25th in passing offense and 23rd in overall offense
Now his "Down" stats are still fucking incredible
But then you add in the stats he has WITH nelson on the field and healthy it just cannot be disputed.
2 or 3
Is there a team besides the Saints where the #3 put up 750. 750 are WR2 numbers. Shit on certain squads there are damn near WR1 (bunch of teams where the WR1 is in the 800). and the Chiefs wish they could get 750 out of a WR. I'm convinced you could put a prime Moss on a squad with Alex Smith and not get 750... lol
2 and Cam was 3 this year
Cobb finished 2015 with only 79 receptions, 829 receiving yards and six touchdowns on 129 targets - No Nelson
after tallying 91 catches, 1,287 yards, and 12 touchdowns on 127 targets the previous season- With Nelson
He had two WRs with almost 900 yards, two good RBs, AR went 30 TDs 8 ints and they made it to the second round of the playoffs....its just sports talk no need to get childish
So what? You said he made Jordy Nelson...who has had up to 1500 yards receiving. If he made Jordy Nelson, why can't he get out of the 800s with one receiver and the squad is pretty much the same. You're wrong. Just keep it moving. They had the same starters last year except for jordy nelson.
Exactly. Jordy Nelson makes that entire offense click. And that's not taking anything away from Rodgers but that offense gets real ordinary when you take Nelson out of it. The other WRs start drawing the #1 CB and they can't get open like Nelson can.
Thru the 1st 8 games this year he went over 100 yards receiving only 1 time. Packers were 4-4- wasn't fully healthy
Last 8 games of the year he went over 100 yards 4 times 2 times over 120 yards Packers went 6-2
What a silly post clearly that year the Packers made adjustments and spread the ball around Aaron Rodgers had a pro bowl year and made it to the 2nd round without Jordy Nelson
You're functionally retarded. You said Rodgers made Jordy. That implies that Jordy is a production of Rodgers. If that was the case, the WR2 would be able to step right in and get WR1 numbers. That didn't happen. No one even got close to Jordy's production. Just shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're talking about.
When you look at the Patriots, Brady always gets wr1 number out of someone. It's systemic. You plug someone in and they get wr1 numbers because Brady and the system can get production out of anyway. That is what a system like that does. He uses Gronk as his #1 and when he goes down someone else gets Wr1 targets and numbers.
When Jordy Nelson (Rodgers wr1) went down, no one else got Wr1 numbers because no one else on that team is good enough to be a WR1.
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Eli and Rivers. I'm positive this guy doesn't actually watch the NFL.
Eli has 2 rings and a number of playoff wins. Philip Rivers has top 10 QB stats...All time and he wins games
Qb win loss records
http://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html
Quarterback Win/Loss Records
Listed below are the Overall QB Win/Loss Records for active NFL players that have started at least one game at quarterback. Figures are sorted by number of wins. Active players are listed in bold.
Starting Quarterback statistics are available only for players that made their first QB start from 1978-present.
Regular Season and Postseason games are included in each player's totals.
All GamesRegular SeasonPostseason
Current PlayersAll Players
Overall Record Home Away
Player GS W L T Pct W L T W L T
Tom Brady 266 205 61 0 .771 118 21 0 87 40 0
Drew Brees 243 137 106 0 .564 75 46 0 62 60 0
Ben Roethlisberger 200 134 66 0 .670 75 25 0 59 41 0
Eli Manning 210 116 94 0 .552 58 45 0 58 49 0
Philip Rivers 185 101 84 0 .546 58 34 0 43 50 0
Aaron Rodgers 148 97 51 0 .655 56 16 0 41 35 0
Joe Flacco 153 93 60 0 .608 55 16 0 38 44 0
Carson Palmer 178 90 87 1 .508 52 37 1 38 50 0
Matt Ryan 147 86 61 0 .585 49 24 0 37 37 0
Alex Smith 141 81 59 1 .578 45 23 1 36 36 0
Tony Romo 133 80 53 0 .602 40 26 0 40 27 0
Shit I say is backed up with stats....yall shit is back up with some dumbshit you come up with lol
Good day....go walk it off
This year idiot. This isn't an all-time argument.
Cobb had 1,200 yards in 2014 so you're wrong about no one else being that good. Like i keep saying the running game carried them with the 2 backs they had so they didnt need a 1500 JN
You're an ass sir.
He didnt say this year ass. And what was Cam THIS year?
What did Cobb do when he had to be the WR1 in 2015. That's why I said your dumb ass doesn't know what WR1 WR2 and WR3 means. Wr2 can do well when on the field with true a WR1 that draws the best CB or double coverage. You see what they really are when they have to play without the WR1. So if Jordy is a production of Rodgers, why couldnt Rodgers get WR1 numbers out of him when Jordy wasn't on the field dumb ass?
You're struggling with reading comprehension. The entire article is about putting Cam into a tier NOW based on current production. None of the fucking argument was about all-time tiers idiot.
They had 1800 yards in 2015 and 1700 in 2016. Shut the fuck up. They averaged 10 more rushing yards per game last year
The rushing offense had nothing to do with the fact that Rodgers couldnt get WR1 numbers out of anyone else.
Same amount of targets but 450 less yards and 6 less TDs. That's all you need to know. He finally had to deal with the CB1...which Jordy always had to deal with + sometimes safety over the top.
They had 1800 yards in 2015 and 1700 in 2016. Shut the fuck up. They averaged 10 more rushing yards per game last year
The rushing offense had nothing to do with the fact that Rodgers couldnt get WR1 numbers out of anyone else.
And Lacey had 1100 of that 2015 they spread the ball around Lacy and Sparks Sparks with almost 400 yards receiving. 2 900 yard Wr and 2 with 500.....spread the ball around like I said ass.
And point being Aaron was still an all pro QB without Nelson
So what is Cam now based on current production "NOW"? Go ahead and spit it out. And what are Philip and Eli?
They averaged 9 more yards per game in 2015 nigga. Stop. Just take the L and run along.
That wasn't even the fucking argument. You don't even comprehend your own writing. Saying Rodgers made Jordy does not equal the argument that Aaron is still an all-pro without Nelson
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