Cam Newton is a Tier 3 QB - barely "startable".

Maybe throw some of that money at Torren Armstead too. If you're not going to draft a LT, just grab the best available one in free agency. The pieces are there, the team just have to focus on the lines.

Of yea he is gonna be a Free agent....no excuses we can $$$ to spend.
 
We need dudes that can CATCH. Maybe I'm impatient with Funchess but Cam throw the ball hard as fuck. Jeffery with Benjamin and Olson would be deadly

Baldwin has great hands too. Jeffrey has some of the best in the NFL though too. He catches everything. Also, Cam had a tendency to through high so a taller WR would likely be better than Baldwin. However, Jeffrey struggles with running routes.
 
Of yea he is gonna be a Free agent....no excuses we can $$$ to spend.

Yeah. He's probably the best OL on the market and probably the best LT that's going to be available for a minute. Yall need help there badly. Sometimes also it takes is one solid guy to solidify the line. That's what helped the Falcons make the leap. Getting Mack at center solidified their line man. You gotta spend the money there if you have it.
 
Baldwin has great hands too. Jeffrey has some of the best in the NFL though too. He catches everything. Also, Cam had a tendency to through high so a taller WR would likely be better than Baldwin. However, Jeffrey struggles with running routes.

Jeffery can be coached up on route running Ricky Phrol is a decent WR coach. Worse case we should end up with DeSean Jackson but I think they keep Ted Ginn before that
 
Yeah. He's probably the best OL on the market and probably the best LT that's going to be available for a minute. Yall need help there badly. Sometimes also it takes is one solid guy to solidify the line. That's what helped the Falcons make the leap. Getting Mack at center solidified their line man. You gotta spend the money there if you have it.

We went to the Super Bowl with Michael Oher. With a Real LT and a running back our offense will take off
 
I think Doug Baldwin would be a better fit than Jeffery. However, I don't think you need a slot receiver unless the offense changes. He can line up outside too. However, of the top WR free agents for 2017, I think Baldwin would be a better fit (although Jeffrey is the more dynamic WR). I don't think the Seahawks let him get away though.


Baldwin isn't a free agent
 
Jeffery can be coached up on route running Ricky Phrol is a decent WR coach. Worse case we should end up with DeSean Jackson but I think they keep Ted Ginn before that

Yeah. I don't think you need both. Desean is Tedd Ginn with hands. he's an upgrade over Ginn but you don't want both of them. Ok. If Phrol can coach him up, Jeffrey definitely has the potential to be a dominant WR. He has everything but route routing.

One good thing about those garbage ass QB is that they really sank his numbers. He won't get what he's probably worth. If he can stay healthy, he's a really good WR.
 
Yeah. I don't think you need both. Desean is Tedd Ginn with hands. he's an upgrade over Ginn but you don't want both of them. Ok. If Phrol can coach him up, Jeffrey definitely has the potential to be a dominant WR. He has everything but route routing.
Mannn i was the biggest DJax hater out there... atleast one of them. Highly critical of his limited skillset and overall antics.. But watching the guy weekly for 2 years and in person... Let me tell you... He shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn unless its to say he shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn. Ginn is a straight line speed guy with bricks for hands... Desean is fucking special. A Defensive Coordinators nightmare.. What he does to the back 7 of NFL defenses is hard to overstate bro. He and Ted Ginn dont do the same thing.:smh:
 
not at all
i can say carson wentz looked like a promising rookie
and they can't say dak was playing lights out and engineered the cowboys to the #1 seed

It was the offensive line, Bills. I mean they had the same offensive line in 2015 and look how great Matt Cassell was.
 
Yeah. I don't think you need both. Desean is Tedd Ginn with hands. he's an upgrade over Ginn but you don't want both of them. Ok. If Phrol can coach him up, Jeffrey definitely has the potential to be a dominant WR. He has everything but route routing.

One good thing about those garbage ass QB is that they really sank his numbers. He won't get what he's probably worth. If he can stay healthy, he's a really good WR.

he's on my list of targets.
 
Mannn i was the biggest DJax hater out there... atleast one of them. Highly critical of his limited skillset and overall antics.. But watching the guy weekly for 2 years and in person... Let me tell you... He shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn unless its to say he shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn. Ginn is a straight line speed guy with bricks for hands... Desean is fucking special. A Defensive Coordinators nightmare.. What he does to the back 7 of NFL defenses is hard to overstate bro. He and Ted Ginn dont do the same thing.:smh:

All he ever needed was someone who can consistently get him the ball and he'd get fucking numbers
got so bad that they started giving him the shorter crossing routes so cousin can get him
shit in this last game missed him beating double coverage down the side line airmailed it by 15 yards lol
 
Mannn i was the biggest DJax hater out there... atleast one of them. Highly critical of his limited skillset and overall antics.. But watching the guy weekly for 2 years and in person... Let me tell you... He shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn unless its to say he shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as Ginn. Ginn is a straight line speed guy with bricks for hands... Desean is fucking special. A Defensive Coordinators nightmare.. What he does to the back 7 of NFL defenses is hard to overstate bro. He and Ted Ginn dont do the same thing.:smh:

Ginn is garbage. I don't mean they're the same player. I'm saying that they both primarily make their plays on post routes and getting behind the defense. They're both 5′ 11″ and 180 pounds. Djax doesn't really run the full route tree. Ginn drops handoffs so I'm not saying they're the same caliber of player. I'm saying the Panthers are in more need of a receiver that can line up anywhere and run the full route tree than another burner.

Even with him pulling safeties back a bit more than Ginn... who is really going to help? Maybe Olsen a bit... but Funchess can't get separation and Benjamin can't seem to figure out route running. What I'm saying is that adding Djax wouldn't change the makeup of the offense more because him and Ginn primarily play the same role (albeit one is much better than the other). I don't think that's what the Panthers really need.
 
Its just them though a lot of you kats Show racist bias just like the white kats
When you arent satisfied with the evidence of racism you say cats are making it up.

When you are faced with evidence of racism you say cats are racist too.

Way to cover all the bases. :yes:
 
All he ever needed was someone who can consistently get him the ball and he'd get fucking numbers
got so bad that they started giving him the shorter crossing routes so cousin can get him
shit in this last game missed him beating double coverage down the side line airmailed it by 15 yards lol
Hes out the door too.. Apparently he wants to go back to philly and hang with street scum hood niggas. Kirk is gonna miss that muthafucka big time.
Ginn is garbage. I don't mean they're the same player. I'm saying that they both primarily make their plays on post routes and getting behind the defense. They're both 5′ 11″ and 180 pounds. Djax doesn't really run the full route tree. Ginn drops handoffs so I'm not saying they're the same caliber of player. I'm saying the Panthers are in more more need of a receiver that can line up anywhere and run the full route tree than another burner.
I hear ya. Im saying he isnt anything like Ginn. And adding him would be a dimension Cam hasnt had and he would be a great compliment to what he has in a great hands and decent route guy in Olsen and the big body of Benjamin. He would actually be a good add for them. Cam wont underthrow him deep like the bum ass confidence lacking pussy in DC.
 
Hes out the door too.. Apparently he wants to go back to philly and hang with street scum hood niggas. Kirk is gonna miss that muthafucka big time.

I hear ya. Im saying he isnt anything like Ginn. And adding him would be a dimension Cam hasnt had and he would be a great compliment to what he has in a great hands and decent route guy in Olsen and the big body of Benjamin. He would actually be a good add for them. Cam wont underthrow him deep like the bum ass confidence lacking pussy in DC.

I don't blame him for getting out of there he was a decoy
Garcon and reed and them gonna miss him too when everybody squatting on their routes.
Maybe he'll come to the west coast.
 
I hear ya. Im saying he isnt anything like Ginn. And adding him would be a dimension Cam hasnt had and he would be a great compliment to what he has in a great hands and decent route guy in Olsen and the big body of Benjamin. He would actually be a good add for them. Cam wont underthrow him deep like the bum ass confidence lacking pussy in DC.

He's a small guy that makes his money getting behind the defense. I wouldn't say they aren't anything alike. One is way better than the other. I do think that for the most part, both are gonna catch 3-4 balls per game and your hope is one of them gets them behind the defense and becomes a big play. Jackson can actually fucking catch, though.

I do think that DJack is underutilized though... meaning that although he got 1000 yards this year, he could do more. I've seen him run good outs and corner routes..and he was better utilized during the second half of the season.

Let me be clear. It's a DEFINITE upgrade with Djax over Ginn.. I'm just saying that I still think that's not the guy they need to get them over the top. They need a true wr1 that they thought Benjamin would be.
 
I don't blame him for getting out of there he was a decoy
Garcon and reed and them gonna miss him too when everybody squatting on their routes.
Maybe he'll come to the west coast.
He aint going out west.. your QB and coach situation worse than mine... plus them local gangbangers would have the press on him. He can be a safe fake thug in philly with them dusty broke hood niggas that worship him. And Garcon probably bounce too. Hes tired of Kirk shit more than anyone.
 
I don't blame him for getting out of there he was a decoy
Garcon and reed and them gonna miss him too when everybody squatting on their routes.
Maybe he'll come to the west coast.

Yep. Those numbers dropping for everyone. No doubt. If Ginn left and he wasnt replaced, it wouldn't drop anyone's numbers so I get fucup's point completely. It's just that occasionally the muthafucka doesn't drop the wide open TD and actually converts. Ginn is really a return man masquerading as a receiver.
 
He aint going out west.. your QB and coach situation worse than mine... plus them local gangbangers would have the press on him. He can be a safe fake thug in philly with them dusty broke hood niggas that worship him. And Garcon probably bounce too. Hes tired of Kirk shit more than anyone.

It ain't worse if we keep Kap.. if we keep kap it's way better lol
I don't see him coming though just wishful. All of my thoughts are contingent on baalke being the piece of shit that rooted everything and we can move on from there. Which is looks like it was HIM fucking shit up and Jed finally looked around and said cac this the 3rd coach you trying to get fired its time for you to go. I also dont' think Chip would've been fired if Baalke wasn't going to be fired

Yea Garcon hates his fucking guts. Kirk doesn't seem like a nice guy.
 
He aint going out west.. your QB and coach situation worse than mine... plus them local gangbangers would have the press on him. He can be a safe fake thug in philly with them dusty broke hood niggas that worship him. And Garcon probably bounce too. Hes tired of Kirk shit more than anyone.

Oh Garcon is gone. I actually think Garcon is one of the most underrated WRs in the league. He might not be a burner but he catches everything, can run routes and dude runs like a fucking big RB after he makes the catch. I actually think in the right offense he can get your 1200 and 8 consistently.
 
He's a small guy that makes his money getting behind the defense. I wouldn't say they aren't anything alike. One is way better than the other. I do think that for the most part, both are gonna catch 3-4 balls per game and your hope is one of them gets them behind the defense and becomes a big play. Jackson can actually fucking catch, though.

I do think that DJack is underutilized though... meaning that although he got 1000 yards this year, he could do more. I've seen him run good outs and corner routes..and he was better utilized during the second half of the season.

Let me be clear. It's a DEFINITE upgrade with Djax over Ginn.. I'm just saying that I still think that's not the guy they need to get them over the top. They need a true wr1 that they thought Benjamin would be.

Nah man it's just what they use him for that's the problem
Like I said his numbers spiked in the 2nd half of the season because they stopped making him run go routes he's actually a damn good route runner with good hands so those slants and crossing routes and others he can eat up so much yardage it's crazy. and the hitting across the middle shit is eliminated from the game now so this is exactly his time to kill it
 
Yep. Those numbers dropping for everyone. No doubt. If Ginn left and he wasnt replaced, it wouldn't drop anyone's numbers so I get fucup's point completely. It's just that occasionally the muthafucka doesn't drop the wide open TD and actually converts. Ginn is really a return man masquerading as a receiver.

Bitch hurt his pussy and couldn't return for us though
 
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