Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!

[Day_Carver]

Thats my exact point, and as long as they keep playing like a young team then playoffs is not a sure thing with them...

But even with these numbers they are almost averaging ten points less than last year even with this cream puff schedule (exept the Spurs who destroyed them)..
Last year they averaged 116 ppg but that number shot up to 125 vs the scrubs, but now they are going neck and neck with the same teams they used to blow out by 35 pts last season...

You keep putting your foot in your mouth dont you; GS averaged last year 114pts per game; this year after just 3 games they are averaging 111pts per game; What are you talking about??? I mean seriously dude; They havent even figured out how to play together and are only off 3 pts from last year; You just continue to say stupid shit; @Mask you gonna keep protecting this dude huh?????

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

rage, was your 1st year on your job better than your 2nd year?

or did you by chance have to figure out all the nuances and get a rhythm to your work even though you technically knew what to do, because you were qualified.. but being qualified and knowing how to do it wasn't everything you needed to know about your particular workplace?

 

[Day_Carver]

and ignore the fact that they haven't learned how to play together yet?
Last year, as I keep saying and you keep ignoring, is the 2nd year together. They went through an entire series and the playoffs learning everything there was to know. It was a machine. It was like riding a bike. That's why they were able to perform so well right out the gate from start to finish. Everything about it was fluid. The system itself, the players, how they fit, the rotations, down to the exact minute in every game they would come out and go in... 1st 3 off the bench and who would play extended garbage time minutes
EVERYTHING was decided. So you can survive that.
Like the Cavs right now... Lue could leave and the assistant could coach and they'd still have the same record. It's not because Lue isn't a bad coach it's because the cavs didn't change anything and right now everything is on auto pilot down to rotations and everything else.
The warriors have to figure that out.
So until you want to concede that point and not try to compare the 1st year of something with the 2nd year of something else...
good luck posting.

Bro please stop talking to him; its a waste of time

 

[BDR]

Once Klay get going it's a wrap

 

[RoadRage]

rage, was your 1st year on your job better than your 2nd year?

or did you by chance have to figure out all the nuances and get a rhythm to your work even though you technically knew what to do, because you were qualified.. but being qualified and knowing how to do it wasn't everything you needed to know about your particular workplace?

I hear the media try to compare this Warrior team with the Heat and Celtics, but to me its more like Ray Allen going to the Heat, where as by the system was already intact and the team already made it to the finals..
The Warriors are not building a new system, they are running or should be running a modified version of what worked last year... Whats kind of scary is that they are under performing with the big three putting up numbers, I think it would be better for them if someone like Duran or Curry was off then you could say that once they get going they would be good to go..
But from what I seen about the Warriors this year, is that offensively they are do much more one on one iso ball, this is not a biggie because they match up very well one on one vs most teams, but unlike last year I am not seeing as much ball movement..
Then their is no lift from the bench and this is going to be a factor in the playoffs vs deep teams, I agree with Van Gundy when he says he thinks they may make a trade or two to fortify this weakness..
Lastly there is the lack of interior defense, well defense as a whole to be exact, it seems like this season they either play the perimeter or the paint, but not both like last year.. They are going to have to work better at team defense and being disciplined with their individual assignments, this I believe may be the easiest to fix but its going to take a lot of time and hard work, yet is no guarantee it will work especially with Curry and Thompson (to quick players but lack the proper foot speed on defense to stop one on one dribble penetration), with out a rim protector cleaning up their mistakes its going to be tougher for them on defense..
These are the three things I think the Warriors need to work on, if they want to get back at their level of last season...

 

[Day_Carver]

I hear the media try to compare this Warrior team with the Heat and Celtics, but to me its more like Ray Allen going to the Heat, where as by the system was already intact and the team already made it to the finals..
The Warriors are not building a new system, they are running or should be running a modified version of what worked last year... Whats kind of scary is that they are under performing with the big three putting up numbers, I think it would be better for them if someone like Duran or Curry was off then you could say that once they get going they would be good to go..
But from what I seen about the Warriors this year, is that offensively they are do much more one on one iso ball, this is not a biggie because they match up very well one on one vs most teams, but unlike last year I am not seeing as much ball movement..
Then their is no lift from the bench and this is going to be a factor in the playoffs vs deep teams, I agree with Van Gundy when he says he thinks they may make a trade or two to fortify this weakness..
Lastly there is the lack of interior defense, well defense as a whole to be exact, it seems like this season they either play the perimeter or the paint, but not both like last year.. They are going to have to work better at team defense and being disciplined with their individual assignments, this I believe may be the easiest to fix but its going to take a lot of time and hard work, yet is no guarantee it will work especially with Curry and Thompson (to quick players but lack the proper foot speed on defense to stop one on one dribble penetration), with out a rim protector cleaning up their mistakes its going to be tougher for them on defense..
These are the three things I think the Warriors need to work on, if they want to get back at their level of last season...

...Man listen; @Mask please stop allowing this clown to post in your bball thread, please; Look at what I bolded, about what he said in this post above; now last year GS average 28.9 assists per game; this year, now mind you its only been 3 fucking games, they are averaging hmmm 28.0 assists per game; they havent even learned how to play together yet and they are still averaging basically the same as last year; is this dude really serious; I MEAN COME ON!!!!!!!!!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I hear the media try to compare this Warrior team with the Heat and Celtics, but to me its more like Ray Allen going to the Heat, where as by the system was already intact and the team already made it to the finals..
The Warriors are not building a new system, they are running or should be running a modified version of what worked last year....

They are running the system with NEW PARTS which means they need time to adjust period.
everything else is irrelevant. They don't know how they fit YET. If its the same system with the same players and lower output then there's trouble
If it's new players finding out where they fit in the system then they need to figure that out.

period.

everything else is irrelevant. Judge them based off of what you see now and nothing else as far as in the past because it was a DIFFERENT TEAM.

 

[RoadRage]

They are running the system with NEW PARTS which means they need time to adjust period.
everything else is irrelevant. They don't know how they fit YET. If its the same system with the same players and lower output then there's trouble
If it's new players finding out where they fit in the system then they need to figure that out.

period.

everything else is irrelevant. Judge them based off of what you see now and nothing else as far as in the past because it was a DIFFERENT TEAM.

I don't know if you remember the me talk about the big three the first year in Miami, when I said the same thing early about the Heat... It was to the point that people was calling me a hater (typical bgol bullshit!) but that team did seem to get it together vs lesser teams but as I warned the Heat fans all that season, as soon as they played a team like the Mavs who could exploit their main weakness its going to be trouble..
Now I am not saying that this is going to happen to the Warriors, because as you rightfully pointed out its very early in the season... But what I do and what I always do is look for patterns and try to find out what style of play seems to bother teams..
The reason why I point out flaws on the Cavs and the Warriors the most its not because of hate, but because they are the two most interesting teams and on paper best teams in the NBA>...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I don't know if you remember the me talk about the big three the first year in Miami, when I said the same thing early about the Heat... It was to the point that people was calling me a hater (typical bgol bullshit!) but that team did seem to get it together vs lesser teams but as I warned the Heat fans all that season, as soon as they played a team like the Mavs who could exploit their main weakness its going to be trouble..
Now I am not saying that this is going to happen to the Warriors, because as you rightfully pointed out its very early in the season... But what I do and what I always do is look for patterns and try to find out what style of play seems to bother teams..
The reason why I point out flaws on the Cavs and the Warriors the most its not because of hate, but because they are the two most interesting teams and on paper best teams in the NBA>...

I dont take it as hate. I am simply saying it's ok to judge them and analyze however don't compare to a different model of this team. That's all.
Offensively they don't have it together yet. They're shooting 27% from 3 point land. Durant is NOT falling in love with the 3 he is going to the rim and shooting free throws and rebounding like he did in OKC and that's what the warriors want him to do.
The post shots the shots to the rim all of those things that Barnes was supposed to do...same amount of touches more or less, but it's Kevin Durant plus he is an underrated defender
NOW they need to figure out the rotation they don't have that near down yet and they need to figure out what they're going to do about the middle. Don't need a defensive stopper just someone who strikes enough fear to know you're going to get fouled or your shot is going to be contested and can potentially be blocked.

draymond is doing what i thought he'd do. His numbers are right where they need to be. He's getting his 8 shots. but he's running the offense. double digit rebounds and assists. The unique thing as I said this team don't need a guy to take all the shots.

The bench stats will suffer no doubt but that's because at no point will all of them be off the court.. so they ALL command #1 option status especially if the rest aren't on the court feel me?

It's not like the past 2 years where the primary scorers were either steph or klay... and if they both rest then you have the others running the offense and taking over the role
NOW you can rest steph and klay and still have to deal with durant

or any of the 3 against your 2nd unit feel me?

they're figuring it out defensively.. and it's not showing up in stops just YET but they're working on it

so we'll see.

 

[RoadRage]

I dont take it as hate. I am simply saying it's ok to judge them and analyze however don't compare to a different model of this team. That's all.
Offensively they don't have it together yet. They're shooting 27% from 3 point land. Durant is NOT falling in love with the 3 he is going to the rim and shooting free throws and rebounding like he did in OKC and that's what the warriors want him to do.
The post shots the shots to the rim all of those things that Barnes was supposed to do...same amount of touches more or less, but it's Kevin Durant plus he is an underrated defender
NOW they need to figure out the rotation they don't have that near down yet and they need to figure out what they're going to do about the middle. Don't need a defensive stopper just someone who strikes enough fear to know you're going to get fouled or your shot is going to be contested and can potentially be blocked.

draymond is doing what i thought he'd do. His numbers are right where they need to be. He's getting his 8 shots. but he's running the offense. double digit rebounds and assists. The unique thing as I said this team don't need a guy to take all the shots.

The bench stats will suffer no doubt but that's because at no point will all of them be off the court.. so they ALL command #1 option status especially if the rest aren't on the court feel me?

they're figuring it out defensively.. and it's not showing up in stops just YET but they're working on it

so we'll see.

No I never said it was you... LOL...
But compairing teams is not fair and if you notice I seldom do it... What I do is look for patterns and every team have their own pattern... Remember I was one of the few to say the Warriors have problems with dribble, penetrating teams who can also hit the outside shot and slow down the pace... Well I came up with this after seeing them struggle at times vs the bigger east coast teams like the Raptors, Bulls and even the Spurs and Cavs... Now the Warriors would win many of those games but the size did seem to make them uncomfortable..
This year its even more evident, and with Durant on the team and so many faces gone, its one of my point of emphasis of what to look for in their play..
The season is still young and their problems may not be that hard to fix, however as I said it may (or may not) involve personnel changes something that is difficult with the superstars they have in their starting lineup...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I see that retard Road Rage is in here pissing people off saying stupid shit again huh?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

No I never said it was you... LOL...
But compairing teams is not fair and if you notice I seldom do it... What I do is look for patterns and every team have their own pattern... Remember I was one of the few to say the Warriors have problems with dribble, penetrating teams who can also hit the outside shot and slow down the pace... Well I came up with this after seeing them struggle at times vs the bigger east coast teams like the Raptors, Bulls and even the Spurs and Cavs... Now the Warriors would win many of those games but the size did seem to make them uncomfortable..
This year its even more evident, and with Durant on the team and so many faces gone, its one of my point of emphasis of what to look for in their play..
The season is still young and their problems may not be that hard to fix, however as I said it may (or may not) involve personnel changes something that is difficult with the superstars they have in their starting lineup...

The Warriors lost the championship because Harrison barnes was ass. The cavs said we don't think barnes can beat us and he shot 30% from the field with wide open jumpers lol. but that is the past.
Durant is 7 feet tall and a better everything than barnes
the only issue I see is basically grooming someone else to be the guy in the middle that's kinda big. that's all aside from that grow together and make it become fluid then we can see if they're legit or not.

Spurs game was great they came out weren't intense at all played sluggish like they could just show up while the spurs came into that game FULLY trying to send a message and they did
to put it into perspective the spurs played hard as fuck that night
and less than a week later aldridge is already resting against the heat...
Spurs beat that ass and they know it and it should motivate them to prove a point.
we shall see if it does or doesn't

 

[RoadRage]

The Warriors lost the championship because Harrison barnes was ass. The cavs said we don't think barnes can beat us and he shot 30% from the field with wide open jumpers lol. but that is the past.
Durant is 7 feet tall and a better everything than barnes
the only issue I see is basically grooming someone else to be the guy in the middle that's kinda big. that's all aside from that grow together and make it become fluid then we can see if they're legit or not.

Spurs game was great they came out weren't intense at all played sluggish like they could just show up while the spurs came into that game FULLY trying to send a message and they did
to put it into perspective the spurs played hard as fuck that night
and less than a week later aldridge is already resting against the heat...
Spurs beat that ass and they know it and it should motivate them to prove a point.
we shall see if it does or doesn't

The problem with Barns is that he had one of the Cavs best defensive players on him most of the time either James or J.R. this is unlike what he saw on most teams that would give so much attention to Curry and Thompson leaving him wide open..
Even if they did sag in the paint, their ability to close out made things very uncomfortable to Barns and with good defenders he could not attack the rim..
Even when they put in Igudala and Barboa in the game they also had problems scoring..
What gives the Warriors the most fits is if you can match up with them with out having to double up... What the Cavs did was often switch up and sometimes trap, but seldom were they forced to double up or stray too far from their defensive assignment...
If you can do this, players like Barns become ordinary (as in the case of what happening this season)..
So last year vs the Cavs he was playing like he normally plays, the way he is playing this season, due to the fact that they are not forced to give the other players special attention..

 

[Day_Carver]

The problem with Barns is that he had one of the Cavs best defensive players on him most of the time either James or J.R. this is unlike what he saw on most teams that would give so much attention to Curry and Thompson leaving him wide open..
Even if they did sag in the paint, their ability to close out made things very uncomfortable to Barns and with good defenders he could not attack the rim..
Even when they put in Igudala and Barboa in the game they also had problems scoring..
What gives the Warriors the most fits is if you can match up with them with out having to double up... What the Cavs did was often switch up and sometimes trap, but seldom were they forced to double up or stray too far from their defensive assignment...
If you can do this, players like Barns become ordinary (as in the case of what happening this season)..
So last year vs the Cavs he was playing like he normally plays, the way he is playing this season, due to the fact that they are not forced to give the other players special attention..

This is the reason why we all think something is wrong with you; @largebillsonlyplease just told your dumb ass Barnes shot 30% on wide open jumpers;that's not defense smart guy that's just bad offense period!!!!!!

 

[BrownTurd]

Don't you start tonight bro...

That 2nd Hal the Warriors were locked in on the defense

 

[BrownTurd]

I'll say that many folks thought Kerr was gonna place him into Harrison slot. Which means him getting great looks wide open looks but not nothing like what's going on.
Seem like KD is very connected to the offense scheme and is way ahead of MoufStayWideOpen and maybe even Klay.

Is Kerr doing this to get KD comfortable or this what we'll see all year....only time will tell

Why would anyone think Kerr or any NBA coach would make KD into a role player? That would be just stupid.

 

[BrownTurd]

working harder still have a lot to improve on defensively.
not even hitting the 3's at a high clip. shooting 27% on the season and that's def going to change.
10/16 from the field, 37 points.

They were locked in on defense the 2nd half. I like that they went to trapping and switching. I kind of figured they would start to defend that way. It was how the Heat were able to have one of the top defenses in the league without having rim protection

 

[BrownTurd]

You keep putting your foot in your mouth dont you; GS averaged last year 114pts per game; this year after just 3 games they are averaging 111pts per game; What are you talking about??? I mean seriously dude; They havent even figured out how to play together and are only off 3 pts from last year; You just continue to say stupid shit; @Mask you gonna keep protecting this dude huh?????

They have not even hit the 3 ball yet

 

[BrownTurd]

rage, was your 1st year on your job better than your 2nd year?

or did you by chance have to figure out all the nuances and get a rhythm to your work even though you technically knew what to do, because you were qualified.. but being qualified and knowing how to do it wasn't everything you needed to know about your particular workplace?

Man why are you trolling Road Rage

You about to have him go on a 20 page rant. You know he insecure about those Warriors

 

[BrownTurd]

...Man listen; @Mask please stop allowing this clown to post in your bball thread, please; Look at what I bolded, about what he said in this post above; now last year GS average 28.9 assists per game; this year, now mind you its only been 3 fucking games, they are averaging hmmm 28.0 assists per game; they havent even learned how to play together yet and they are still averaging basically the same as last year; is this dude really serious; I MEAN COME ON!!!!!!!!!

Man he gone put bills on ignore

 

[BrownTurd]

I hear the media try to compare this Warrior team with the Heat and Celtics, but to me its more like Ray Allen going to the Heat, where as by the system was already intact and the team already made it to the finals..
The Warriors are not building a new system, they are running or should be running a modified version of what worked last year... Whats kind of scary is that they are under performing with the big three putting up numbers, I think it would be better for them if someone like Duran or Curry was off then you could say that once they get going they would be good to go..
But from what I seen about the Warriors this year, is that offensively they are do much more one on one iso ball, this is not a biggie because they match up very well one on one vs most teams, but unlike last year I am not seeing as much ball movement..
Then their is no lift from the bench and this is going to be a factor in the playoffs vs deep teams, I agree with Van Gundy when he says he thinks they may make a trade or two to fortify this weakness..
Lastly there is the lack of interior defense, well defense as a whole to be exact, it seems like this season they either play the perimeter or the paint, but not both like last year.. They are going to have to work better at team defense and being disciplined with their individual assignments, this I believe may be the easiest to fix but its going to take a lot of time and hard work, yet is no guarantee it will work especially with Curry and Thompson (to quick players but lack the proper foot speed on defense to stop one on one dribble penetration), with out a rim protector cleaning up their mistakes its going to be tougher for them on defense..
These are the three things I think the Warriors need to work on, if they want to get back at their level of last season...

Warriors have no ball movement and play ISO? What is this fool talking about. The Warriors hardly ever go ISO and KD is the only person that gets ISO plays called.

 

[BrownTurd]

I see that retard Road Rage is in here pissing people off saying stupid shit again huh?

He calls it analysis but it is deep seeded hate. The Cavs can do no wrong.

 

[BDR]

Durant 10-16 FG for 37pts man you don't get no more efficent and easy shots like that... This the most I ever saw Durant get the easiest shots in his career..

 

[Mask]

Durant 10-16 FG for 37pts man you don't get no more efficent and easy shots like that... This the most I ever saw Durant get the easiest shots in his career..

Shit that why he went there, he wanted them easy shots...

 

[BDR]

Shit that why he went there, he wanted them easy shots...

You blame him? He got tired of playing with a bunch of dick heads

 

[BrownTurd]

Durant 10-16 FG for 37pts man you don't get no more efficent and easy shots like that... This the most I ever saw Durant get the easiest shots in his career..

Watching Curry and Durant play, you can clearly see why him and Westbrook were not a good match. Curry and Durant both can play without the ball in their hands and score efficiently without having to control the ball at all times.

 

[Day_Carver]

Man why are you trolling Road Rage

You about to have him go on a 20 page rant. You know he insecure about those Warriors

Dude said KD would only average 17pts per; Im going to be on his head the entire year; he always saying he dont say no off shit or his shit is real; man fuck him...

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Dude said KD would only average 17pts per; Im going to be on his head the entire year; he always saying he dont say no off shit or his shit is real; man fuck him...

Damn the most complete scorer in the NBA only average 17 huh

 

[Day_Carver]

Shit that why he went there, he wanted them easy shots...

Who doesnt want an easy life?

 

[Day_Carver]

Damn the most complete scorer in the NBA only average 17 huh

Its flat out ridiculous the things he say; then he tries to back it up with some bullshit analysis of his; KD has the 3rd highest scoring average ever!!!; I said this before, I dont give a dam who hes playing with and what team hes on; he would average way more than 17; Shit when GS figures it out, him Klay and Curry gonna average around 22 or more a game, watch...

 

[Mask]

Boy y'all some class A fools in here..

 

[Mask]

Who doesnt want an easy life?

I don't know, I just was say they showed him the easy shots he would get and that was a wrap

 

[BDR]

Its flat out ridiculous the things he say; then he tries to back it up with some bullshit analysis of his; KD has the 3rd highest scoring average ever!!!; I said this before, I dont give a dam who hes playing with and what team hes on; he would average way more than 17; Shit when GS figures it out, him Klay and Curry gonna average around 22 or more a game, watch...

And Draymond still stuffing the stat sheet

 

[LegalMoney]

I see that retard Road Rage is in here pissing people off saying stupid shit again huh?

Bruh I'll never forget when he posted for 24 hours straight that the San Antonio Spurs purposely sabotaged their A/C system just to cause LeBron to have those heat cramps during Game 1 of the 2014 Championship series.
..
..

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Mavs 0-3 dirk missed the last two games

Just a lil preview of life after Dirk let's go ahead and lose them all we need a top 3 pick