BGOL Christians help me with this one......

[RoadRage]

According to the Bible, name me the top five bad things the devil ever done.... Please don't say dumb shit like blaming the things that un-godly men did on the devil, because that would be just as dumb as blaming god for children getting molested by priest...

 

[RoadRage]

Somebody has to have a clue, to this one..

 

[God Dammit]

The devil is clearly the good guy in this movie.
Homeboy brought knowledge & wisdom when "The Man" was trying to keep man & woman ignorant.​

 

[Hey Julian!]

He invades my pants when I'm standing behind Sister Jackson during devotion.

 

[lexdiamonnyc]

lmao! religion and proof are like oil/water.....they don't mix bro.

 

[mike30#1bucfan]

There is no top 5 its only one he introduced sin into this earth so everything that falls under the category of sin is his fault! The earth was void of sin until the devil appeared in the form of a serpent and convince Eve to go against God's Word. Eve then convince Adam to go against God's Word and the rest is history............

 

[D Town Redd]

1) He is the origin of Evil... The world was perfect when created by God. But through lies, the Devil was able to pervert God's gift to man of Free will into the tendency to sin. (Genesis Chapter 3)

2) He rebelled against God and took 1/3 of the angels with him when he fell (Revelation)

3) He was created PERFECT but used his free will to want to TAKE the worship that is God's by right alone (Ezekiel)

4) He tempts humanity to stumble (Matthew)

5) He is constantly looking to trip up humans because Jesus' death at the Cross means Satan's game is over. (Peter)

More info on the Father of Lies can be found here: http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/who_is_satan.html

 

[4 Dimensional]

There is no top 5 its only one he introduced sin into this earth so everything that falls under the category of sin is his fault! The earth was void of sin until the devil appear in the form of a serpent and convince Eve to go against God's Word. Eve then convince Adam to go against God's Word and the rest is history............

God created the devil though, right?

 

[RoadRage]

1) He is the origin of Evil... The world was perfect when created by God. But through lies, the Devil was able to pervert God's gift to man of Free will into the tendency to sin. (Genesis Chapter 3)

2) He rebelled against God and took 1/3 of the angels with him when he fell (Revelation)

3) He was created PERFECT but used his free will to want to TAKE the worship that is God's by right alone (Ezekiel)

4) He tempts humanity to stumble (Matthew)

5) He is constantly looking to trip up humans because Jesus' death at the Cross means Satan's game is over. (Peter)

More info on the Father of Lies can be found here: http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/who_is_satan.html

You guys say loosely say things like he intduced sin, prevented god from giving man free will or lied to man...
Wait wasn't man granted free will after he at from the tree of good and evil knowledge? Wasn't god the one to say they would die if they ate from it, yet they didn't? Plus you say he is looking to trick and trip up humans, then explain what god did to Jobe.....
Where is all the evil shit like when he kills people, rapes or suggest they kill each other?

 

[SamSneed]

He didn't want to praise man.

He thought of himself better than God.

he spoke out against God.

He wanted to remove God and sit on his throne.

He caused betrayal/disobedience in heaven and earth.

Same could happen in your home. Your son can do the same but you won't harm him or not love him cause of it.

But you will put him out your home.

 

[RoadRage]

Didn't god flood and kill everyone on the planet because they were sinning only to create more people who killed and sin more? How is that not evil?

 

[RoadRage]

He didn't want to praise man.

He thought of himself better than God.

he spoke out against God.

He wanted to remove God and sit on his throne.

He caused betrayal/disobedience in heaven and earth.

Same could happen in your home. Your son can do the same but you won't harm him or not love him cause of it.

But you will put him out your home.

When did he speak up against god other than to question him and call him out in his lies.... Who to say we would not still be like animals if we did not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

 

[SamSneed]

When did he speak up against god other than to question him and call him out in his lies.... Who to say we would not still be like animals if we did not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

I wasn't there, just sayin what's in the bible. You asked I answered.

 

[RoadRage]

I wasn't there, just sayin what's in the bible. You asked I answered.

I am just trying to make sense of the shit, because using their words it just doesn't add up..

 

[mike30#1bucfan]

He did, but just like in today's times when folks get the big head they need to be spanked a little bit so God kicked him out of heaven for trying to take over. Satan convinced 1/3 of the angels to listen to him instead of God. So for being a disloyal member of the crew he got the boot....... just to put a little comedy in it!

 

[SamSneed]

I am just trying to make sense of the shit, because using their words it just doesn't add up..

It won't.

But what will make sense is what I said about a son doin his father like that.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

There has to be something to religion. Past the cynical view of it. on a different level there just has to be because its the only logical explanation for why it controls so much of what people do.

The story might not be what you like but there is something to it.

 

[ankhheru]

The God of the bible killed more people than the devil. He even raped a married woman and conceived a child with her breaking one of his own commandments. He was so viscous he commanded his people to kill every man, woman who was already betrothed and animals. All the genocides of the bible are attributed to him or his commanding of men. For some reason he created a flawed human knowing it would be flawed and punished his creation for being what it was. A flawed human.

 

[ankhheru]

The book of job was the original Trading Places.

 

[SamSneed]

There has to be something to religion. Past the cynical view of it. on a different level there just has to be because its the only logical explanation for why it controls so much of what people do.

The story might not be what you like but there is something to it.

See, zod wouldn't do all that crazy shit.

 

[ankhheru]

If he created man knowing before hand that he would be flawed then why punish man? If he knew it and punished man anyway then that lends to a type of mental issue at the least. If he created man and did not know he would be flawed then he is not omnipotent.

 

[SamSneed]

If he created man knowing before hand that he would be flawed then why punish man? If he knew it and punished man anyway then that lends to a type of mental issue at the least. If he created man and did not know he would be flawed then he is not omnipotent.

Just like man and woman knowing the world is shit, that the child will be hurt, cry, get sick or die. Yet they still want to have a baby.

 

[ankhheru]

Just like man and woman knowing the world is shit, that the child will be hurt, cry, get sick or die. Yet they still want to have a baby.

But man ain't God.....man was condemned to bring kids into this world via gods condemnation.

 

[xxironxx]

Lol ain't no top 5. A sin is a sin my ninja

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

If he created man knowing before hand that he would be flawed then why punish man? If he knew it and punished man anyway then that lends to a type of mental issue at the least. If he created man and did not know he would be flawed then he is not omnipotent.

he knew and why not?

 

[ankhheru]

he knew and why not?

please explain what you're saying.

 

[Gazoo]

Isaiah 14:13 Usually attributed to Satan

"For you said to yourself, 'I will ascend to heaven and set my throne above God's stars. I will preside on the mountain of the gods far away in the north."

1 Peter 5:8

Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

Mark 4:15

Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them.

John 13:2

And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray Him,

 

[RoadRage]

There has to be something to religion. Past the cynical view of it. on a different level there just has to be because its the only logical explanation for why it controls so much of what people do.

The story might not be what you like but there is something to it.

The story is the garden of eden is coded and the true meaning is nothing what we have been taught to believe... It is a story of many levels, for the common folk, the story is of obedience and conformity while enlighten individuals see the story as nothing more than a allegory of the balance of different forces or energies (think yin yang ) and how they are are both needed in balance for man to have free will...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The story is the garden of eden is coded and the true meaning is nothing what we have been taught to believe... It is a story of many levels, for the common folk, the story is of obedience and conformity while enlighten individuals see the story as nothing more than a allegory of the balance of different forces or energies (think yin yang ) and how they are are both needed in balance for man to have free will...

if we go back to before the stories being defined were important, the metaphysical was accepted in with the practice of scientific and intellectual things.
which i think is why they were able to do so much shit, that was lost and we discovered 2k years later. pyramids being lined up with specific star constellations. scientists are like oh shit it is? people 2k ago are like oh shit it took yall 2k more years to discover this elementary shit? wait until you unlock the rest of this stuff we believed in.

 

[Big Tex]

There has to be something to religion. Past the cynical view of it. on a different level there just has to be because its the only logical explanation for why it controls so much of what people do.

The story might not be what you like but there is something to it.

It's the same with all forms of indoctrination.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

please explain what you're saying.

the power knew, the power laid the rules down and we get punished. you're wondering why did the power create things that were going to be punished? my argument is that the power created those things and looks at those things as just that. things. we give ourselves this self importance like we're vital to the universe which is why we assign the power a male role and call the power he when it's a power and if it's all powerful doesn't need a primitive concept like sex to define all that it is.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

It's the same with all forms of indoctrination.

i think indoctrination itself there's something there. that connects with a part of people. some people figured out the code so to speak and have used it to their benefit as man does.

 

[Built4Life]

if we go back to before the stories being defined were important, the metaphysical was accepted in with the practice of scientific and intellectual things.
which i think is why they were able to do so much shit, that was lost and we discovered 2k years later. pyramids being lined up with specific star constellations. scientists are like oh shit it is? people 2k ago are like oh shit it took yall 2k more years to discover this elementary shit? wait until you unlock the rest of this stuff we believed in.

Like what? Cats love to give bronze age people a lot of credit when they really didn't know anything compared to today. The only thing that hasn't changed is human psychology. And... Religion is just a manifestation of human frailty. It is not that one religion holds more weight, it is that humans are ultimately insecure and there is this need for the illusion of certainty which religion does provide but is the perfect tool for self deception which is why it is a human invention.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Like what? Cats love to give bronze age people a lot of credit when they really didn't know anything compared to today. The only thing that hasn't changed is human psychology. And... Religion is just a manifestation of human frailty. It is not that one religion holds more weight, it is that humans are ultimately insecure and there is this need for the illusion of certainty which religion does provide but is the perfect tool for self deception which is why it is a human invention.

They deserve a lot of credit. Different era. Things evolve and we evolve so am i saying they were as smart as we are today? No I am saying they were incredibly smart for the time period in which humans had existed. Can we give them that? lol.
It's like saying well, I didn't know shit at 12 and I thought I was brilliant, compared to what I know today at 40. Well, yea no shit, you've had time to grow and learn but that 12 still counts. You were still smart.
Can we say you guys figured out how to do some good shit given the short amount of time you had to actually live?

We work in cycles. We're actually going through one right now. Shit we have today we couldn't even imagine having 10 years ago. It happens like that sometimes.

And as far as religion goes, I don't really subscribe to the new stories that are being told but i believe there is something hidden in them that resonates past the concept of it just being insecurity. The spirit is real imo it's just been horribly mismanaged for the past 6 or 700 years.

 

[Mixd]

he created this...

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