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Who funds the First Order? The Empire fell, the New Republic arose from its ashes. The First Order is the remnants of the Empire, but they going to build a fucking Death Star that is ten times bigger than the previous ones?

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One of them (Finn or Rey) will probably break bad to the Dark Side (if the writers are smart) with the other bringing them back to the light side. Dameron I'm not sure of except I'm sure he will team with Finn.

This is what I would like as well. That Rey really tapped into the darkside using fear and anger to defeat Kylo Ren. And Kylo Ren still has not severed the temptation of the light side after killing his father. It would be great if a jedi Kylo Ren and jedi Finn have to team up to defeat a powerful dark side Rey. She is just to "Ms Perfect" Jedi/Millenium Falcon piloting/fixing character for me right now. It would be too safe to have her the hero of the whole trilogy IMO.

But this is Disney we are talking about. They are likely jumping at the chance to have a disney princess with a lightsaber.
 
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Kylo Ren killed his father. He's not coming back from that. When he finds out he's being pulled to the light side by Anakin/Vader himself, he'll go off the deep end.

Rey is our Jedi hero.
 
Who funds the First Order? The Empire fell, the New Republic arose from its ashes. The First Order is the remnants of the Empire, but they going to build a fucking Death Star that is ten times bigger than the previous ones?

WTF
Snoke must have access to all that bread Palpatine got from Plageius.
 
The only thing that can redeem this story for me is if somehow both Finn and Rey were Lukes padwans in training as kids....then Luke abandons them and consequently Finn is kidnapped by the First Order..and Rey ends up a wanderer but both mind wiped somehow.

Once thier memories and early training returns to them, one ends up resenting Luke and turns.. and the other forgives and carries on the way of the Jedi.

what do you think of this theory

Of course time will tell but I think ep 8 and 9 will diverge into the ways both Sith and Jedi are trained.

We see rei. meet with luke and basically offer herself up to be trained by him.

Lost is the little bit of dialogue that snook (sp) will become more personally involved in Kylo ren's training.

Even bigger kylo said he needed Han's help. This was in order to really begin to be a sith lord he must sacrifice the life of someone he loved. Yeah I know EU is no longer canon but CLEARLY they are stealing elements of the EU they wish. Snook seemed to mock ren when he said the droid is with your father. He than said how no other has been tested like this.

IMO this is all dialogue we have heard before but between the emporer and vader. another piece of dialogue we heard before is when ren told snook how powerful the girl was snook said: If what you say about this girl is true bring her to me!

Did we hear those words before? Who was being refered to when we heard those words before? and what were their relationship?
 
what do you think of this theory


If Rey is truly meeting Luke for the 1st time its weak....If she is his abandoned daughter who never had any knowledge of the Force until hours before she started using it to fly shit, mind control fools and kick darside ass...thats wack too.

Everything else you said seems pretty straightforward...and likely the direction they go with.

But it also seems likely that they will go on with this infallible Female princess ish..with the male sidekicks trying to save her and rescue her when she doesn't even need them for that.
 
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He was a replitian Alien with cybernetic parts. What type of robot has coughing fits?
it was explained that fight computers increased his reflex speed... that enabled his effective use of lightsabers
military experience + Dooku training allowed him to over come weaker jedi
 
Kylo Ren > Vader

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When u kill your father, you're all kinds of fucked up

Wait till he gets seasoned.

:itsawrap:

Vader was soft in return of the Jedi, he threw his master over the balcony.

Kylo Ren would never do that shit.

Fam he was stopping lasers in mid air.

And smh @ 3/5's a man in star wars
 
Fuck if I know. Perhaps he's Plagueis? We won't know til later in the series.

The Force was balanced, perhaps it's been unbalanced again.

So why is shit still fucked up if the force was balanced at the end of ROTJ? This Plagueis dude that much of a beast that all balance force shit don't mean ish?
 
So why is shit still fucked up if the force was balanced at the end of ROTJ? This Plagueis dude that much of a beast that all balance force shit don't mean ish?
no it means george lucas inserted some corny shit thats reminiscent of the Matrix..:smh::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Theres a reason its not mentioned in the OT..
 
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it took seven movies but dammit if lucas didn't get his wish and worked the name Starkiller in there somewhere..:lol:

in the original drafts of the OT there was a character named Anakin STARKILLER...lucas must have been like "thats a bad ass name goddammit I WANT it in a movie!" when he negotiated with disney...:giggle::giggle:
 
i dont know, rey being lukes daughter seems too obvious to me. luke sure didnt seem to excited to see his daughter either. we didnt know vader was luke's father till rtoj. for a trilogy its just too early. i think she could be of obi wans family tree. somebody dead had to lead her to the lightsaber and show her those visions. obi wan. obi wan trained luke now luke will train his i guess.....granddaughter...lol.makes me kinda wonder tho...luke's nowhere as old as yoda. he could literally whip kylo rens ass.....dont know about snoke yet.at the end finn gonna wind up being the king or general of the resistance in this storyline.
 
So why is shit still fucked up if the force was balanced at the end of ROTJ? This Plagueis dude that much of a beast that all balance force shit don't mean ish?

I don't think that the prophecy has been fulfilled. Nobody has brought balance yet....maybe the girl will....cuz Darth Solo sure won't.

 
It can't be his grand kid?
He would have to be 50-60 years old to be his kid, assuming he did die when he went out that window. it would be cool if he turned up alive and had just been in hiding.

Mace Windu:
Owns the only lightsaber that says "BAD MOTHER FUCKER," on it.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my Jedi brothers. And you will know my name as Mace Windu when I lay my vengeance upon thee"
 
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It can't be his grand kid?
i suppose so, but that goes back to the thing about jedi not having "attachments" aka kids and wives.
Luke is the last Jedi, he can do whatever the fuck he wants, because the only people who can tell him shit are all ghosts.
Rey might be his kid. If you can believe he left his kid alone on a dirt planet.

Anakin was an asshole and he was going to get him some pussy no matter what the Jedi Order said.
He was supposed to be the chosen one, remember? What were they going to do ? Write him up?

But Mace Windu was on the Jedi Council and we assume he was jedi from childhood, so chances are he's probably the last dude trying to get caught up in a galactic sex scandal.
I'm thinking Lando Calrissian is Fin's daddy.
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1. You know he was on some pimp shit. The jedi all sport dusty ass Yeezus bathrobes.
Lando's the only muthafucka besides Vader rocking a cape. Bitches love capes.


2. Bruh RAN Cloud City. You know good and damn well he wasn't sleeping in a studio apartment. And everybody knows the best weed is in Cloud City.
Lando: "You wanna go back to my place?"
Space Thot: "Where you stay at?"
Lando: "Cloud City, Penthouse Suite."
Space Thot: "ooops, my panties..."
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3. Fridge full of COLT 45 MALT LIQUOR.
Why?
Because some bitches just won't take Quaaludes from a black man.
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4. Who had a swimming pool in his crib without a drop of water, but filled to the brim with bitches, a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away?
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Kylo Ren > Vader

Watch

When u kill your father, you're all kinds of fucked up

Wait till he gets seasoned.

:itsawrap:

Vader was soft in return of the Jedi, he threw his master over the balcony.

Kylo Ren would never do that shit.

Fam he was stopping lasers in mid air.

And smh @ 3/5's a man in star wars

Kylo Ren seems off to me. Makes me wonder if Snoke is holding back with him. He seems to be all parlor tricks. Yeah stopping the shot mid air was nice. But dude can only affect the weak. He can't even make a proper lightsaber. And he really does not fight that well with it. Barely beat a stormtrooper who had no training, was pretty much defeated by a woman who picked up one for the first time. Couldn't even read her mind...yet she called him out. The commander does not respect him. He talks to his dead grandfathers helmet. Even dress like a knock off of him. Admits he's conflicted and being drawn to the lightside. He likely does not even know about Anakin before Vader.
 
i suppose so, but that goes back to the thing about jedi not having "attachments" aka kids and wives.
Luke is the last Jedi, he can do whatever the fuck he wants, because the only people who can tell him shit are all ghosts.
Rey might be his kid. If you can believe he left his kid alone on a dirt planet.

Anakin was an asshole and he was going to get him some pussy no matter what the Jedi Order said.
He was supposed to be the chosen one, remember? What were they going to do ? Write him up?

But Mace Windu was on the Jedi Council and we assume he was jedi from childhood, so chances are he's probably the last dude trying to get caught up in a galactic sex scandal.
I'm thinking Lando Calrissian is Fin's daddy.
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1. You know he was on some pimp shit. The jedi all sport dusty ass Yeezus bathrobes.
Lando's the only muthafucka besides Vader rocking a cape. Bitches love capes.


2. Bruh RAN Cloud City. You know good and damn well he wasn't sleeping in a studio apartment. And everybody knows the best weed is in Cloud City.
Lando: "You wanna go back to my place?"
Space Thot: "Where you stay at?"
Lando: "Cloud City, Penthouse Suite."
Space Thot: "ooops, my panties..."
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3. Fridge full of COLT 45 MALT LIQUOR.
Why?
Because some bitches just won't take Quaaludes from a black man.
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4. Who had a swimming pool in his crib without a drop of water, but filled to the brim with bitches, a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away?
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Funny but lando never had the force. And why would Jedi, a dying breed, limit having kids? That's dumb. A lot of ppl in high positions do shady stuff so he could have smashed.
 
i dont know, rey being lukes daughter seems too obvious to me. luke sure didnt seem to excited to see his daughter either. we didnt know vader was luke's father till rtoj. for a trilogy its just too early. i think she could be of obi wans family tree. somebody dead had to lead her to the lightsaber and show her those visions. obi wan. obi wan trained luke now luke will train his i guess.....granddaughter...lol.makes me kinda wonder tho...luke's nowhere as old as yoda. he could literally whip kylo rens ass.....dont know about snoke yet.at the end finn gonna wind up being the king or general of the resistance in this storyline.

We find out in Empire Strikes Back.
 
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Was he really? He didn't bring balance to the force and his legacy as Vader is remembered more than the chosen one.

He did bring balance. He eliminated the Sith. The Sith, post Bane, personified in a master and apprentice, is a corruption of the Force. The continuing line starting with Darth Bane and the Rule of Two was broken at Endor. Kylo may use the dark side, but he is not Sith. From punk ass Abrams own lips, "Kylo Ren is not a Sith." Use of the dark side of the Force does not automatically mean one is a Sith.

Example: Asajj Ventress & Savage Oppress served under Dooku, but neither were Sith. When Maul returned claiming he was a Sith Lord, with his brother as his apprentice, they got that work from Palpatine for making that claim.

 
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