~~Miami Heat vs San Antonio - 2013 NBA Finals - The Miami Heat wins!

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You're not. I would rather say good job old man than to get blazed by Leonard and Green.

But the problem is this. It's not like that requires a schematic change. Green and Leonard aren't getting off because the Heat are doubling down on Duncan and Duncan is just dishing out. Very very of those assists are inside-out passes from Duncan because of double or even help defense.

I think it really just come down to defending the perimeter better...now if Duncan picks up the slack and drops 30 and 20...hey...what are you going do? but shit...It's not like it's a definitive either or at this point.. the heat just need to defend the perimeter better..period. Wade, Lebron, and Allen were on Green on 90 percent of those threes... probably 40 percent of them on Wade....they've just got to defend...at this point... it's like even a pick your poison situation. Heat defender have to stop getting caught sagging in the paint... wade and lebron are just sleeping on defense...not committing to the double-team or help defense (which would be unnecessary) and not staying on their man.

The loss aside, you want what you had in game 1... parker and duncan carrying the load... and althought green and leonard got open looks.. they got much fewer than in the rest of the series


Even on the drives. Don't double. Without all of this 3's the Spurs would have lost every game except 1. They have to stay home regardless.
 
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I said this before game 1.....let the post players play 1 on 1 defense....fuck it....I know I wouldn't still be getting killed with threes at this point in the series because of some unnecessary ass rotation out of a double team that is not warranted .....

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That's not what's really killing them though. They aren't doubling the post. Most of the trapping is coming on parker....but again go back and look at that Danny Green video....a majority of those shots were off basic ball movement passes to danny green sitting in open space...not even coming off a pick on anything and his man was just sleeping..sagging in the paint
 
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There were moments in the game when Bron would square up defensively on Green and Green would pass it off and run off screen. 5 seconds go by and you seen Green wide open in the corner for the 3. :lol:

That's maybe happened once or twice. Look at that video you posted. How many times was it danny green rolling off a pick or backscreen that created that space... maybe 4 times max!
 
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That's not what's really killing them though. They aren't doubling the post. Most of the trapping is coming on parker....but again go back and look at that Danny Green video....a majority of those shots were off basic ball movement passes to danny green sitting in open space...not even coming off a pick on anything and his man was just sleeping..sagging in the paint

yeah I feel as if they are over helping and flat out sleeping on the shooters in this series alot man....
 
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Even on the drives. Don't double. Without all of this 3's the Spurs would have lost every game except 1. They have to stay home regardless.

Yep.

if you look at the stats in the wins and loses for the heat, Duncan has had very little change in production. He's pretty close to 20 and 10 except for one game. Parker has also had minor fluctuations in production. In the Spurs' wins, it has been Leonard and Green almost scoring 3 times their season's averages that has been the major factor.

The Heat just have to commit to man to man defense....even Manu drives...fuck it... the paint player should rotate to contest the shot..if Duncan gets the offensive rebound, so be it. The perimeter defenders should just stick to their man and box them out. Fuck the help. When you have role players shooting 66% percent from 3 and getting 8-9 attempts per game from 3, it's very fucking simple in terms of what you need to do.... if Green is gonna beat you, he's gonna have to do it by putting the ball on the floor and beat you off the dribble...

Plus, Wade and Lebron are bailing Green and Leonard out by taking jump shots. It's like the perfect recipe to make those role players effective... give them easy wide open shots where they can square up and not even deal with a hand in their face and then on the other end, don't make them defend because your shooting long jumpers.

If you had never watched the NBA before, you would never really know that green and leonard are role players and wade and lebron are two of the best players to ever play the game. That's just real...I'm talking about if you just judged them based on this series alone and nothing else.

for instance, in game 6

Leonard and Green gave you 40 points 14 rebounds 4 turnovers on 55 percent shooting

Wade and James gave you 50 points 10 rebounds 7 turnovers on 40 percent shooting but way more assists

plus that's not even counting the hustle plays where green stopped back to back layup attempts by wade and lebron on the fast break

that's too close... green and leonard would be bench players on some squads.... Wade and Lebron are fucking hall of famers
 
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Exactly. They can play 2 for 2 all day with the Spurs but they damn sure can't play 2 for 3
 
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Exactly. They can play 2 for 2 all day with the Spurs but they damn sure can't play 2 for 3
 
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they have to keep parker out of the lane.

when he gets in its a wrap...

cause he damn sure finishes

OR

he finds the open man for 3.

the heat pride themselves in help defense so they're not going to be able to just stay out there, i don't see that cause its just not what they do.
 
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Spurs stole a road win in game 1 hope they can do it tomorrow...would love to see everyone who crowned Miami again before the season started eat crow
 
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Spurs stole a road win in game 1 hope they can do it tomorrow...would love to see everyone who crowned Miami again before the season started eat crow

I don't want them to just eat it...

...I want to bind all of their hands, so I can feed them the crow until their stomachs pop.

Edit: Was that a bit excessive?
 
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Man, these cats thought it was blasphemy when I said Kobe has a greater skill set than Inikomozi. Lebron the Layup King. Spurs str8 disrespected this man lagging off him. Last night he was missing layups and dunks.
Basically.


Bullshit. He didnt shoot well, but he played a good game and is averaging 21, 10, & 6 for the series. An uncle tom can never really be an Inkosi. They bow down to white folks too much. Now keep hating "dude". :lol:
Thats Horrible.

you supposed to Step your game UP in the finals...

And is sad, cuz they arent even Defending Dude.


21, 10, and 6 on 43%fg is Much lower than his Regular season production.

Dude is failing.

And if he didnt stat pad in game for, his points and FG% would be much lower.


this is w/ Whom u place your faith... Its kinda sad when Niggas start trying the Damage control and start talking shit about Jordan who Murdered the Playoffs to someone whos been a career UNDERACHIEVER in the NBA Finals.

:lol:

U niggas should be sick to your stomach.

:lol:
 
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I don't want them to just eat it...

...I want to bind all of their hands, so I can feed them the crow until their stomachs pop.

Edit: Was that a bit excessive?

Not @ all :lol:
 
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Lebron got locked up by Bruce Bowen and Lenard

:puke:

And lmao @ the lakers not beating Larry brown in the finals
 
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DG is feeling no pressure. And Miami is just not accounting for him enough. Whoever is sticking Green, just stay with him. Back breaking 3's.

Hate to say it , but he is due to go 1-7 in game 6.

Of all the great shooters to play in the finals. Young blood is on fire.
 
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Maybe I'm crazy but if I'm the Heat I'd make Duncan beat me. He didnt 30/20 Duncan that can lead the whole game.

You are crazy

Duncan easily scores in the paint on this team and they haven't even been focusing on him offensively or getting him the ball when he has position

I'd still play the odds even though Green is shooting like a created player on Live 98
 
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they have to keep parker out of the lane.

when he gets in its a wrap...

cause he damn sure finishes

OR

he finds the open man for 3.

the heat pride themselves in help defense so they're not going to be able to just stay out there, i don't see that cause its just not what they do.

I hear you...but remember what we talked about in that Indiana vs Miami series..... if you are going to commmit, you have to commit...but often, Miami is not really helping...they are just sagging in the lane and leaving the shooter open. it's pretty crazy how they are still getting caught sleeping against Green...he's just sliding out to the open spot and waiting on the pass..
 
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You are crazy

Duncan easily scores in the paint on this team and they haven't even been focusing on him offensively or getting him the ball when he has position

I'd still play the odds even though Green is shooting like a created player on Live 98

He like player 23 on the bulls
 
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same here... I had a year where i read like 100 books man...and I haven't read many books lately....but how can i do that when all my "free" time in spent on this muthafucka arguing about the NBA :smh::lol:
About how much time did you spend reading per day/week?
 
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I hear you...but remember what we talked about in that Indiana vs Miami series..... if you are going to commmit, you have to commit...but often, Miami is not really helping...they are just sagging in the lane and leaving the shooter open. it's pretty crazy how they are still getting caught sleeping against Green...he's just sliding out to the open spot and waiting on the pass..

Yea same principles as the indiana series.

Spurs aren't beating the heat up but they still have the post player and they have the guard play.

green and them get open cause though parker isn't really scoring at an all time clip his ass is in the lane and they can't help themselves. when parker doesn't flop and decides to go strong or force the pressure miami can't really do anything other than let him score...or help and give up the 3.
we'll see what they do going forward.

all indiana had to do was not turn the ball over and give it to hibbert, but they decided against doing it.

and vogel decided to throw in the towel in the 2nd quarter.
 
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You are crazy

Duncan easily scores in the paint on this team and they haven't even been focusing on him offensively or getting him the ball when he has position

I'd still play the odds even though Green is shooting like a created player on Live 98

So you would rather the 3's beat you?
 
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About how much time did you spend reading per day/week?

maybe 25-30 hours a week. I spend all evenings...maybe like 8-12 during the week...and then usually a long day of reading on sunday.... I spend half that year overseas too so i got a lot of other time in too.... that wasn't even year that...that was just my best year...... normally I would get 20-25 books a year... now man..it's like 4-5 books a year... feedreaders and bgol fucked me up my reading patterns...
 
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So you would rather the 3's beat you?

Only thing is 2's are easier than 3's

parker will finish around that rim

and when duncan has gotten the ball in the post and make his move he's been unstoppable.

dishes and dunking on folks that ain't his strength anymore.

but back to the basket have him destroy the post defender..especially with no help? he's feasting whenever the spurs do give it to him which isn't often enough
 
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So you would rather the 3's beat you?

Give me 3's over easy/uncontested layups

Layups are the higher percentage shots

Got to play the percentages

The spurs are a smart enough team to wear if you are overcovering the 3 point shot they will attack the basket and feed it inside
 
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Give me 3's over easy/uncontested layups

Layups are the higher percentage shots

Got to play the percentages

The spurs are a smart enough team to wear if you are overcovering the 3 point shot they will attack the basket and feed it inside

Yup. Layups all the time can't happen. That can be even more demoralizing than getting scotched from the 3 ball.

But when a team is getting layups and hitting the 3, then you got to pick your poison and for me it's preventing layups.
 
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Give me 3's over easy/uncontested layups

Layups are the higher percentage shots

Got to play the percentages

The spurs are a smart enough team to wear if you are overcovering the 3 point shot they will attack the basket and feed it inside

Man. When a player is shooting almost 70 percent from 3 and getting 8-9 three point attempts per game, you're better off letting Manu shoot layups.

I would say play the percentage if it was just one game but we're starting game 6 tomorrow and Green been shooting like this all series..

plus... the perimeter players sticking on green has nothing to do with the penetration.... if you look at that video again, how many of those threes were from drive and kicks where Green's defender was sucked into the lane defending a driver? probably 5 percent of those 3s were creating like that.

you're not going to keep Parker out of the lane anyway...so why not control what you can... Wade and Lebron are good enough defenders to cut that perimeter bullshit out IF they give the effort to do so..... the heat can give a full effort and still not keep parker out of the lane and he's the only one getting in.... Manu had ONE good game and honestly, if Im the heat I want that muthafucka shooting the ball..layups or not

i hear what you are saying and normally i would agree... but the stats and watching the game clearly illustrate that parker getting into the lane is NOT really killing Miami but Green IS. Dawg... parker gonna get 20 anyway...you can't let Green be the leading scorer putting up 25 and 27
 
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Man. When a player is shooting almost 70 percent from 3 and getting 8-9 three point attempts per game, you're better off letting Manu shoot layups.

I would say play the percentage if it was just one game but we're starting game 6 tomorrow and Green been shooting like this all series..

plus... the perimeter players sticking on green has nothing to do with the penetration.... if you look at that video again, how many of those threes were from drive and kicks where Green's defender was sucked into the lane defending a driver? probably 5 percent of those 3s were creating like that.

you're not going to keep Parker out of the lane anyway...so why not control what you can... Wade and Lebron are good enough defenders to cut that perimeter bullshit out IF they give the effort to do so..... the heat can give a full effort and still not keep parker out of the lane and he's the only one getting in.... Manu had ONE good game and honestly, if Im the heat I want that muthafucka shooting the ball..layups or not

i hear what you are saying and normally i would agree... but the stats and watching the game clearly illustrate that parker getting into the lane is NOT really killing Miami but Green IS. Dawg... parker gonna get 20 anyway...you can't lead Green be the leading scorer putting up 25 and 27

Truth right here ^^^^

That's the problem Spol has... I don't think it's happened often where you say fuck it, let the stars do their thing and focus on a role player! Green has really changed the game, and nobody can even lie and say, he would be the x-factor coming in to the series...

But... you let Parker do his thing, then you open up everybody else, and as old as he is, TD will have what little in the way of Bigs Miami has in mad foul trouble if you give them free reign...

And we can't forget about Neal, and possibly Manu getting open as well... Miami is the physically superior team, but, they are going to have to beat SA for the title. The Spurs aren't going to take their foot of the pedal or give the games away...
 
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Truth right here ^^^^

That's the problem Spol has... I don't think it's happened often where you say fuck it, let the stars do their thing and focus on a role player! Green has really changed the game, and nobody can even lie and say, he would be the x-factor coming in to the series...

But... you let Parker do his thing, then you open up everybody else, and as old as he is, TD will have what little in the way of Bigs Miami has in mad foul trouble if you give them free reign...

And we can't forget about Neal, and possibly Manu getting open as well... Miami is the physically superior team, but, they are going to have to beat SA for the title. The Spurs aren't going to take their foot of the pedal or give the games away...

You can't let Parker eat in the paint though. His circus layups are just as brutal from getting busted from the outside.

I guess it's just a pet peeve of mine, but layups make me angry. I can respect green and the way he is shooting. This shit is historic, but I will not let Parker eat in the paint :lol:
 
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Let Ray or Shane guard Green to chase him off screens

Let his put it on the floor and be a threat there which he isn't
 
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If Miami had Kobe, they would've swept the Spurs.
 
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You can't let Parker eat in the paint though. His circus layups are just as brutal from getting busted from the outside.

I guess it's just a pet peeve of mine, but layups make me angry. I can respect green and the way he is shooting. This shit is historic, but I will not let Parker eat in the paint :lol:

Parker is going to do that anyway though cuz. He's been doing that his entire career. But Parker getting 20-25 is not going to make you lose sleep. You EXPECT that out of parker..especially against the Heat who have problems with fast PGs... but Leonard and Green dropping 52 in one game is NOT expected and that's killing the heat..

i know what you mean..but aint shit the heat can do about Parker..and if you stop sending all kinds of help on parker, the Spurs have very capable three point shooter... they're getting clean shots already... if you start sending too much help and doubling up on parker they're just gonna get easier shots unless you can trap and cause turnovers..but parker is not turnover prone.. parker getting his isn't killing you guys... its Green and Leonard sometimes scoring more than Manu, Parker, and Duncan!

keep those two around their season averages and those layups from Parker still gonna end up with the Spurs losing by double-digits.
 
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A lot of that was Jesus sagging off of him and trying to close out too...

Got Wade and Jesus over and over again...no screens of nothing..dudes just sagging off for no good reason like they're defending Tony Allen :smh:
 
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