IIRC, I don't think that was Mystique. It was the real Stryker. I think you are thinking about the other Mystique when she posed as that dude from congress. The timelines between these x-men movies and Wolverine is all messed up.
X-Men: Apocalypse' Review: It's A Franchise-Killing Disaster
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Nah... That was Mystique that fished him out the river.
Oh ok. I thought that was the set up for the first Wolverine. Damn, they fucked that up. What was the point?
To show us they dont give a fuck about adhering to their own storylines??
Naw,I downloaded both movies.I knew the X-Men movie would be a piece of shit
I heard the most recent Fantastic Four movie pulled in $11 million on opening day and we saw how it ended for that trash ass movie. X-Men Apocalypse only pulled in $8 million. I hope word of mouth gets around bout this movie being subpar so the studios will stop being so damn lazy and step their game up.
I think one way they avoid the continuity error is that no matter what Wolverine is going to go through the weapon x program.
Yall not giving me no hope at all...
...and yes, Raul Julia killed that role as M. Bison.
I loved that movie.
I'm getting the feeling that Fox is about to shoulder all their weight on Deadpool right now. I really hope Reynolds and who he worked with the first time can keep this shit tight cause Fox is going to need a way to make some money...I really hope the next movie doesn't turn out like FF, and they just scrambling to make something to keep the rights.
*sigh* No hope at all...
...and yes, Raul Julia killed that role as M. Bison.
I loved that movie.
I'm getting the feeling that Fox is about to shoulder all their weight on Deadpool right now. I really hope Reynolds and who he worked with the first time can keep this shit tight cause Fox is going to need a way to make some money...I really hope the next movie doesn't turn out like FF, and they just scrambling to make something to keep the rights.
*sigh* No hope at all...
X-Men Movies New Timeline Explained
X-Men: Days of Future Past is the film that reset the X-Men Universe, and gave the franchise a new lease on life.
Director Bryan Singer acknowledges that the events of X-Men 1, X-2: X-Men United, and X-3: The Last Stand, are all erased going forward. At the end of Days of Future Past, Logan sees a future where all the original X-Men (including the actors that played them in the original trilogy) are alive and well.
Singer spoke to Collider about specifics of the new timeline, and if indeed we are working our way towards that future that is seen at the end of Days of Future Past, and even towards the beginning of the original X-Men.
“It’s not leading necessarily toward exactly where we found Patrick Stewart and the X-Men at the beginning of X-Men 1. There are some things that lead in that general direction, that was part of the philosophy we had at the end of Days of Future Past is that you can’t fully change the course or current of the river, but you can just divert it a little bit, and we diverted it a little bit. So some things will be surprises; people could die that were alive in X-Men 1, 2 and 3, or people could survive that died during 1, 2 and 3.”
He continued about that ripple effect, and how he tried to get it across in Days of Future Past.
“What happens when you use Days of Future Past to erase movies like X1, 2 and 3, yes you can erase those events that occurred, but I also was very adamant about having what we call ‘The Tivo Scene.’ The scene in that room with all the video cameras in Days of Future Past, I call it the Tivo scene. ‘I developed this piece of technology that records television;’ the point is time’s immutability. The idea that time is like a river. You can splash it and mess it up and throw rocks in it and shatter it but it eventually kind of coalesces and this is, again, quantum physics theory. It’s all based in quantum physics.”
While fans can use the other films as a sort of barometer for what could happen, Singer isn't promising those will match up, and that freedom was specifically the reason they got rid of those three films.
“So what I’m doing with these in-betweenqueels is playing with time’s immutability and the prequel concept, meaning that yes we erased those storylines and anything can happen. That means the audience goes into the movie thinking that anything can happen. I mean anything, anyone could die. Any possibility could occur, but characters are still moving towards their immutable place. Jean and Scott, are they meant to be together? Is Scott, this guy who hates schools and hates authority, destined to become a leader? You don’t know. Is Jean ever going to discover the full potential of her power? You don’t know, but we move in those directions character-wise but then we have the freedom story-wise to do whatever the fuck we want because we erased those three movies."
“The prequel, you don’t know where it’s going and yet you do kind of know where you want it to go, where you want to see those characters end up, and that’s the beauty of it, of Days of Future Past, of what it did for me. That’s why I fought so hard to make sure we have Hank McCoy talk about the theory of time’s immutability, because that defines what I’m doing with this universe and with these prequels to X1, 2 and 3, which are erased—or are they not?”
Screenwriter and Producer Simon Kinberg believes that the ending of Days of Future Past shows viewers ultimately where the movies want to go.
“All these movies now exist in the same timeline and certainly the intention at the end of Days of Future Past was that final future we saw was the destination for the characters. So barring another time travel or something else that would upset the timeline, that would be the fate of those characters.”
Singer doesn't buy into that theory as much, though, saying: “Time can always be fucked with, we’ve now learned that. We’ve now learned that once you alter time that could be the future, but I don’t believe if you look at all the X-Men movies and Days of Future Past, I don’t believe that’s definitive.”
He continued, saying: “I’ll kill any of those characters any day I want. They’re all fair game. Anything can happen. When two things are happening simultaneously in quantum physics it’s what’s called the Super Position and when the Observer finally observes the outcome that’s called the ‘Collapsing of the Super Position’ which is what happened when Wolverine woke up and saw all the happiness. So yes that is the outcome we hope for, that is the outcome we aspire to, and that’s the outcome we are moving towards, but we saw in Days of Future Past another dark world. What says that can’t happen again? What says the awakening of a being that has such power and can acquire the power to destabilize that? So anything is possible. That’s what we’d like to think happens, that’s what Simon would like to think is a good outcome, but to me it’s fair game.”
X-Men: Apocalypse is in theaters now.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/x-men-movies-new-timeline-explained/
X-Men: Days of Future Past is the film that reset the X-Men Universe, and gave the franchise a new lease on life.
Director Bryan Singer acknowledges that the events of X-Men 1, X-2: X-Men United, and X-3: The Last Stand, are all erased going forward. At the end of Days of Future Past, Logan sees a future where all the original X-Men (including the actors that played them in the original trilogy) are alive and well.
Singer spoke to Collider about specifics of the new timeline, and if indeed we are working our way towards that future that is seen at the end of Days of Future Past, and even towards the beginning of the original X-Men.
“It’s not leading necessarily toward exactly where we found Patrick Stewart and the X-Men at the beginning of X-Men 1. There are some things that lead in that general direction, that was part of the philosophy we had at the end of Days of Future Past is that you can’t fully change the course or current of the river, but you can just divert it a little bit, and we diverted it a little bit. So some things will be surprises; people could die that were alive in X-Men 1, 2 and 3, or people could survive that died during 1, 2 and 3.”
He continued about that ripple effect, and how he tried to get it across in Days of Future Past.
“What happens when you use Days of Future Past to erase movies like X1, 2 and 3, yes you can erase those events that occurred, but I also was very adamant about having what we call ‘The Tivo Scene.’ The scene in that room with all the video cameras in Days of Future Past, I call it the Tivo scene. ‘I developed this piece of technology that records television;’ the point is time’s immutability. The idea that time is like a river. You can splash it and mess it up and throw rocks in it and shatter it but it eventually kind of coalesces and this is, again, quantum physics theory. It’s all based in quantum physics.”
While fans can use the other films as a sort of barometer for what could happen, Singer isn't promising those will match up, and that freedom was specifically the reason they got rid of those three films.
“So what I’m doing with these in-betweenqueels is playing with time’s immutability and the prequel concept, meaning that yes we erased those storylines and anything can happen. That means the audience goes into the movie thinking that anything can happen. I mean anything, anyone could die. Any possibility could occur, but characters are still moving towards their immutable place. Jean and Scott, are they meant to be together? Is Scott, this guy who hates schools and hates authority, destined to become a leader? You don’t know. Is Jean ever going to discover the full potential of her power? You don’t know, but we move in those directions character-wise but then we have the freedom story-wise to do whatever the fuck we want because we erased those three movies."
“The prequel, you don’t know where it’s going and yet you do kind of know where you want it to go, where you want to see those characters end up, and that’s the beauty of it, of Days of Future Past, of what it did for me. That’s why I fought so hard to make sure we have Hank McCoy talk about the theory of time’s immutability, because that defines what I’m doing with this universe and with these prequels to X1, 2 and 3, which are erased—or are they not?”
Screenwriter and Producer Simon Kinberg believes that the ending of Days of Future Past shows viewers ultimately where the movies want to go.
“All these movies now exist in the same timeline and certainly the intention at the end of Days of Future Past was that final future we saw was the destination for the characters. So barring another time travel or something else that would upset the timeline, that would be the fate of those characters.”
Singer doesn't buy into that theory as much, though, saying: “Time can always be fucked with, we’ve now learned that. We’ve now learned that once you alter time that could be the future, but I don’t believe if you look at all the X-Men movies and Days of Future Past, I don’t believe that’s definitive.”
He continued, saying: “I’ll kill any of those characters any day I want. They’re all fair game. Anything can happen. When two things are happening simultaneously in quantum physics it’s what’s called the Super Position and when the Observer finally observes the outcome that’s called the ‘Collapsing of the Super Position’ which is what happened when Wolverine woke up and saw all the happiness. So yes that is the outcome we hope for, that is the outcome we aspire to, and that’s the outcome we are moving towards, but we saw in Days of Future Past another dark world. What says that can’t happen again? What says the awakening of a being that has such power and can acquire the power to destabilize that? So anything is possible. That’s what we’d like to think happens, that’s what Simon would like to think is a good outcome, but to me it’s fair game.”
X-Men: Apocalypse is in theaters now.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/x-men-movies-new-timeline-explained/
Movie was meh...I'd rate it a C.
Go watch the movie again
Someone already confirmed. I just forgot.
X-Men Movies New Timeline Explained
X-Men: Days of Future Past is the film that reset the X-Men Universe, and gave the franchise a new lease on life.
Director Bryan Singer acknowledges that the events of X-Men 1, X-2: X-Men United, and X-3: The Last Stand, are all erased going forward. At the end of Days of Future Past, Logan sees a future where all the original X-Men (including the actors that played them in the original trilogy) are alive and well.
Singer spoke to Collider about specifics of the new timeline, and if indeed we are working our way towards that future that is seen at the end of Days of Future Past, and even towards the beginning of the original X-Men.
“It’s not leading necessarily toward exactly where we found Patrick Stewart and the X-Men at the beginning of X-Men 1. There are some things that lead in that general direction, that was part of the philosophy we had at the end of Days of Future Past is that you can’t fully change the course or current of the river, but you can just divert it a little bit, and we diverted it a little bit. So some things will be surprises; people could die that were alive in X-Men 1, 2 and 3, or people could survive that died during 1, 2 and 3.”
He continued about that ripple effect, and how he tried to get it across in Days of Future Past.
“What happens when you use Days of Future Past to erase movies like X1, 2 and 3, yes you can erase those events that occurred, but I also was very adamant about having what we call ‘The Tivo Scene.’ The scene in that room with all the video cameras in Days of Future Past, I call it the Tivo scene. ‘I developed this piece of technology that records television;’ the point is time’s immutability. The idea that time is like a river. You can splash it and mess it up and throw rocks in it and shatter it but it eventually kind of coalesces and this is, again, quantum physics theory. It’s all based in quantum physics.”
While fans can use the other films as a sort of barometer for what could happen, Singer isn't promising those will match up, and that freedom was specifically the reason they got rid of those three films.
“So what I’m doing with these in-betweenqueels is playing with time’s immutability and the prequel concept, meaning that yes we erased those storylines and anything can happen. That means the audience goes into the movie thinking that anything can happen. I mean anything, anyone could die. Any possibility could occur, but characters are still moving towards their immutable place. Jean and Scott, are they meant to be together? Is Scott, this guy who hates schools and hates authority, destined to become a leader? You don’t know. Is Jean ever going to discover the full potential of her power? You don’t know, but we move in those directions character-wise but then we have the freedom story-wise to do whatever the fuck we want because we erased those three movies."
“The prequel, you don’t know where it’s going and yet you do kind of know where you want it to go, where you want to see those characters end up, and that’s the beauty of it, of Days of Future Past, of what it did for me. That’s why I fought so hard to make sure we have Hank McCoy talk about the theory of time’s immutability, because that defines what I’m doing with this universe and with these prequels to X1, 2 and 3, which are erased—or are they not?”
Screenwriter and Producer Simon Kinberg believes that the ending of Days of Future Past shows viewers ultimately where the movies want to go.
“All these movies now exist in the same timeline and certainly the intention at the end of Days of Future Past was that final future we saw was the destination for the characters. So barring another time travel or something else that would upset the timeline, that would be the fate of those characters.”
Singer doesn't buy into that theory as much, though, saying: “Time can always be fucked with, we’ve now learned that. We’ve now learned that once you alter time that could be the future, but I don’t believe if you look at all the X-Men movies and Days of Future Past, I don’t believe that’s definitive.”
He continued, saying: “I’ll kill any of those characters any day I want. They’re all fair game. Anything can happen. When two things are happening simultaneously in quantum physics it’s what’s called the Super Position and when the Observer finally observes the outcome that’s called the ‘Collapsing of the Super Position’ which is what happened when Wolverine woke up and saw all the happiness. So yes that is the outcome we hope for, that is the outcome we aspire to, and that’s the outcome we are moving towards, but we saw in Days of Future Past another dark world. What says that can’t happen again? What says the awakening of a being that has such power and can acquire the power to destabilize that? So anything is possible. That’s what we’d like to think happens, that’s what Simon would like to think is a good outcome, but to me it’s fair game.”
X-Men: Apocalypse is in theaters now.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/x-men-movies-new-timeline-explained/
X-Men: Apocalypse' Tops Friday Estimates, Eyes $80+M Memorial Day Weekend
Memorial Day weekend's two new wide releases got off to soft starts with X-Men: Apocalypse leading the way with an estimated $26.4 million on Friday,
targeting an $80+ million four-day holiday weekend.
Despite virtually matching its predecessor, X-Men: Days of Future Past, when it comes to Thursday night previews (see Friday AM update below), the follow-up brought in $9 million less on Friday.
Memorial Day weekend's two new wide releases got off to soft starts with X-Men: Apocalypse leading the way with an estimated $26.4 million on Friday,
targeting an $80+ million four-day holiday weekend.
Despite virtually matching its predecessor, X-Men: Days of Future Past, when it comes to Thursday night previews (see Friday AM update below), the follow-up brought in $9 million less on Friday.
Just saw it. Man............I really don't know what to say. It's good to see another X-Men movie in general, but I didn't like it.
Outside of Michael Fassbender as Magneto, all of the leads were garbage. Especially Apocalypse. It had some much potential, but they fucked it up.
Outside of Michael Fassbender as Magneto, all of the leads were garbage. Especially Apocalypse. It had some much potential, but they fucked it up.
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I think people wanted it to be on par with civil war. You bring in Apocalypse, you need to do it correctly. Take note when Thanos shows up.
And also, Jennifer Lawrence didn't bring much to the table. It's like she didn't want to be in costume, she wanted people to see her real face. She should be removed from the movies. Focus on the other characters.
- Exactly focus on the other characters. Get a strong 80'sense X-men lineup. Cyclops, Rogue (post Carol Danvers powered up and invunerable) Night Crawler, Colossus, Storm. You can leave out Wolverine and be just fine.
So far it's only brought in $65 million in sales. Lawd please let this flop harder
What's with the logic? So, marvel can do right by it?
Ok seen it...
It wasn't horrible.
Good summer comic book flick
Special effects some good acting some very nice surprises.
But unfortunately compared to the others?
No bueno.
The biggest complaint?
It was fine.
No more no less
It had no soul No spirit
and Jennifer Lawrence looked like someone kidnapped her puppy to do this role.
Nice little origin scenes the fights were good
As usual Quicksilver stole the movie but it was really redundant.
Dumb deaths really dumb.
Psylocke looked fantastic had 6 lines and just posed throughout the movie.
The surprise guest had no lines and was awesome.
The movie straiNed and struggled to find any semblance of levity and damaged the entire precedings.
It looked great...but felt hollow.
IF you gonna make a movie for the fans? Get the little things right.
And I think there was like one black person on this entire movie...did no one else notice?
This movie had no heart ho soul no agency no pain no umph.
The 3 big moments were CLOSE but no cigar.
It need something just some connection something visceral...
This was literally a comic book movie thin and 2 dimensional.
It wasn't horrible.
Good summer comic book flick
Special effects some good acting some very nice surprises.
But unfortunately compared to the others?
No bueno.
The biggest complaint?
It was fine.
No more no less
It had no soul No spirit
and Jennifer Lawrence looked like someone kidnapped her puppy to do this role.
Nice little origin scenes the fights were good
As usual Quicksilver stole the movie but it was really redundant.
Dumb deaths really dumb.
Psylocke looked fantastic had 6 lines and just posed throughout the movie.
The surprise guest had no lines and was awesome.
The movie straiNed and struggled to find any semblance of levity and damaged the entire precedings.
It looked great...but felt hollow.
IF you gonna make a movie for the fans? Get the little things right.
And I think there was like one black person on this entire movie...did no one else notice?
This movie had no heart ho soul no agency no pain no umph.
The 3 big moments were CLOSE but no cigar.
It need something just some connection something visceral...
This was literally a comic book movie thin and 2 dimensional.
they could of at least put her in the REAL costume for that one shot...
I cannot argue with any of this
Magneto was reminded by Mystique ( a character not known for her familial ties btw) that the X-Men were his REAL family all along...
* that's the BEST I got fam.
My man... if you post this got dam quote in ONE MO thread.. Imma steal off on you nigga.
my bad ...but in every damn thread they KILLING it KILLING it
I gotta put that review in there cause it aint THAT bad...
OK its NOT good...
but it aint the worst movie ever.
It just needed someone like you (or Fonzi or vicious) honestly a FAN of the work
who could walk in and say
that don't make sense that don't make sense that don't look right maybe 5 times
and you got a good movie.
that is ALL Fox is missing a this point.
A committee who looks over the finished product...and go OK how do we make this BETTER?
Not change it, but just improve what is already there.
Marvel does it with ALL their movies.
Coogler helped on Civil War, Russo gonna help on BP even the GoG director helped with humor on a few Marvel movies
teamwork
I don't think you can just give Singer the reins and say do what you want, same for the dude who did BvS.
Deadpool succeeded cause they really couldn't care less and honestly just left them alone.
But they were FANS writing this movie for YEARS...and still called Marvel for permission and ideas.
And to be fair as GOOD as Deadpool is...it COULD have been better, take a few flat jokes and forced moments out?
that movie is ranking near all time great status not just in box office.
X-Men deserves a epic...I say give the dude who did First Class the reins and just tell him don't kill any Black people unnecessarily.
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imo -Playa is just trying to come to terms with a lot of issues regarding the movie -
as a real fan myself I dealt with the trauma of Singer's lazy writing and crap fx / power ranger stunts by venting on here for the last 6 or 7 days
imo -Playa is just trying to come to terms with a lot of issues regarding the movie -
as a real fan myself I dealt with the trauma of Singer's lazy writing and crap fx / power ranger stunts by venting on here for the last 6 or 7 days
OK to be fair...
I saw it for free and I walked out at one point to answer my phone and the workers there asked me what do you think???
I have no idea what the expression on my face was at the time but I got free popcorn and a soda.
lawd, Weapon X couldn't even save that damn thing.
But it wasn't bad bad it just didn't do anything.
It was like f*cking Ice La Fox in her prime no boob job...
She just looked so DELICIOUS and sounded so good and that look in her eye
but if you REALLY looked closely
she didn't really do much.
Beginning with the weekend #1, X-Men: Apocalypse brought in an estimated $65 million three-day and is looking at anything from $77-80 million for the four-day holiday. The result is pretty much what the studio was anticipating heading into the weekend,
(I remember seeing Fox' initial projections of 140 to 160 million over 3 and 4 days then dropped it to $110 million then $90 million then $82 million on Friday )
but still has to be looked at as something of a disappointment. The four-day total is approximately $30 million less than 2014's X-Men: Days of Future Past with a three-day that ranks sixth when compared to the rest of the films in the X-Men franchise.
Looking ahead, outside of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse received the worst RottenTomatoes scorecompared to any film in the X-Men franchise. However, opening day audiences seemed to like it well enough, scoring it with an "A-" CinemaScore, which is just below Days of Future Past's "A" and ahead of the "B+" for X-Men: First Class. In fact, First Class is a solid comparison domestically as it opened with $55.1 million back in 2011 and went on to gross $145.4 million domestically and just over $200 million internationally.
Speaking of international results Apocalypse is already encroaching on First Class' overseas total as the film brought in another $55.3 million this weekend from 79 markets, bringing its international cume to $185.8 million. The film added four territories this weekend, most notably South Korea where it finished #1 in the market with an estimated $12 million. The film retained its #1 position from last weekend in Brazil where it dropped only 17% as well as in the UK and Australia. Apocalypse arrives in China, where First Class was not even released and Days of Future Past brought in $116 million, on June 3 and won't be released in Japan until August 11.
(I remember seeing Fox' initial projections of 140 to 160 million over 3 and 4 days then dropped it to $110 million then $90 million then $82 million on Friday )but still has to be looked at as something of a disappointment. The four-day total is approximately $30 million less than 2014's X-Men: Days of Future Past with a three-day that ranks sixth when compared to the rest of the films in the X-Men franchise.
Looking ahead, outside of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Apocalypse received the worst RottenTomatoes scorecompared to any film in the X-Men franchise. However, opening day audiences seemed to like it well enough, scoring it with an "A-" CinemaScore, which is just below Days of Future Past's "A" and ahead of the "B+" for X-Men: First Class. In fact, First Class is a solid comparison domestically as it opened with $55.1 million back in 2011 and went on to gross $145.4 million domestically and just over $200 million internationally.
Speaking of international results Apocalypse is already encroaching on First Class' overseas total as the film brought in another $55.3 million this weekend from 79 markets, bringing its international cume to $185.8 million. The film added four territories this weekend, most notably South Korea where it finished #1 in the market with an estimated $12 million. The film retained its #1 position from last weekend in Brazil where it dropped only 17% as well as in the UK and Australia. Apocalypse arrives in China, where First Class was not even released and Days of Future Past brought in $116 million, on June 3 and won't be released in Japan until August 11.
Even if Marvel doesn't get it back, the weak sales would send a clear message that lazy directing and production should not and will not be tolerated.
Co-sign...
and it may send a ANOTHER message..
if the audience (fanboys, general, etc) thinks a Marvel property isn't really being overseen by MARVEL?
It will fail.
That is a STRONG negotiating position to operate from.
Keep devaluing the IP...
its gonna hurt your bottom line EVENTUALLY and then you gonna have NO leverage
because you can't have a TV show or comic books without US.
and that is extra advertising promotion and revenue streams.
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