Another Chis / Rihanna based thread. ( Sorry, my computer crapped out on me and I can't do any work so ya'll just have to suffer. this is not colin friendly )
Been lurking on the board, reading the different posts regarding violence against women. And, I'm surprised at the amount of people who say that women should NEVER be hit. And the mindset that a man who's prepared to defend himself against ANY attacker is a bitch, weak, etc.
I'm not condoning ABUSE of any kind, specially against women ( and children ). Simply because they are the weaker sex ( physically ), in most cases and because abuse of any kind is just wrong.
This question is for the women ( and men ) who feel that a woman should never, ever, ever be hit. No matter what the circumstances are. Can you please explain why? Don't you think that there are life threatening situations that may warrant some sort of violence? ( A late dinner doesn't qualify as a life threatening situation) For those that advocate the "holding her down" theory, don't you feel that it's the same as hitting a woman? Or the wrist lock? Or the "squeezing of the fist"?
I'm asking for you to justify your opinion. Of course you should avoid the situation at all costs, but that doesn't always happen. I'm actually caught between both opinions myself, and I was in a situation where I was with a female who got physical. We started arguing, I don't even remember what we were arguing about. But she started pulling on me, pulling my hair, hitting me, biting me, kicking me. The whole time this is going on, I'm not saying anything just trying to get out of the apt before I did somethign stupid. We were 12 floors up, and of course there was only one door. She's blocking the door, and when I tried to lift her out the way, she would grab onto the door knob. When I tried to pull her out the way, she would start with the hitting. I managed to get out the door once, she grabbed my glasses and runs back into the apt ( I'm blind w/o them and I still had to get home). I go back in, wrestle the glasses from her, without hurting her, and go thru the same struggle to get back out. This goes on for an hour, and she's hitting me the whole time, I manage to get out the apt the second time. When she realizes this, she starts punching and pounding on me as hard as she can, I snapped and lashed out. She gives me this "I can't believe you hit me look" and goes back into the apt. This happened years ago, damn near a decade. And I still feel sick to stomach that I did something out of my character. But at the same time, I wonder if I took the hits for too long. I wonder if I'm following my societal ( word? ) conditioning by feeling guilty about hitting her.
Please answer the question, and help with my boredom.
Been lurking on the board, reading the different posts regarding violence against women. And, I'm surprised at the amount of people who say that women should NEVER be hit. And the mindset that a man who's prepared to defend himself against ANY attacker is a bitch, weak, etc.
I'm not condoning ABUSE of any kind, specially against women ( and children ). Simply because they are the weaker sex ( physically ), in most cases and because abuse of any kind is just wrong.
This question is for the women ( and men ) who feel that a woman should never, ever, ever be hit. No matter what the circumstances are. Can you please explain why? Don't you think that there are life threatening situations that may warrant some sort of violence? ( A late dinner doesn't qualify as a life threatening situation) For those that advocate the "holding her down" theory, don't you feel that it's the same as hitting a woman? Or the wrist lock? Or the "squeezing of the fist"?
I'm asking for you to justify your opinion. Of course you should avoid the situation at all costs, but that doesn't always happen. I'm actually caught between both opinions myself, and I was in a situation where I was with a female who got physical. We started arguing, I don't even remember what we were arguing about. But she started pulling on me, pulling my hair, hitting me, biting me, kicking me. The whole time this is going on, I'm not saying anything just trying to get out of the apt before I did somethign stupid. We were 12 floors up, and of course there was only one door. She's blocking the door, and when I tried to lift her out the way, she would grab onto the door knob. When I tried to pull her out the way, she would start with the hitting. I managed to get out the door once, she grabbed my glasses and runs back into the apt ( I'm blind w/o them and I still had to get home). I go back in, wrestle the glasses from her, without hurting her, and go thru the same struggle to get back out. This goes on for an hour, and she's hitting me the whole time, I manage to get out the apt the second time. When she realizes this, she starts punching and pounding on me as hard as she can, I snapped and lashed out. She gives me this "I can't believe you hit me look" and goes back into the apt. This happened years ago, damn near a decade. And I still feel sick to stomach that I did something out of my character. But at the same time, I wonder if I took the hits for too long. I wonder if I'm following my societal ( word? ) conditioning by feeling guilty about hitting her.
Please answer the question, and help with my boredom.
) if it turns into some sort of movie style wild west free for all gun play knives everywhere to the death then of course the man should do whatever it takes to stay alive
