Why do women feel that they shouldn't be hit?

[LeroyDibiase]

For you saying don't hit a woman, what is the reason you are using?

Is it because she has a vagina?

Or she's smaller?

What is your logic as to why if a woman strikes you first, you cannot respond in kind?

Forget social mores. I'm speaking straight logic.

 

[followup]

I didn't read all of your post because I've heard it all before. MEN ARE STRONGER THAN WOMEN. Therefore no matter what she does to you, you can easily restrain her. I am speaking on the situation between a man and his woman--not some random gargantuan woman in the club acting out. Pin her arms to her sides or behind her back or wrap her in a bear hug and then call the police and remove yourself from the situation. Lastly, if you are involved with a women who abuses you verbally or physically, LET HER GO! There are too many women in the world

 

[Andeyhollawho]

I didn't read all of your post because I've heard it all before. MEN ARE STRONGER THAN WOMEN. Therefore no matter what she does to you, you can easily restrain her. I am speaking on the situation between a man and his woman--not some random gargantuan woman in the club acting out. Pin her arms to her sides or behind her back or wrap her in a bear hug and then call the police and remove yourself from the situation. Lastly, if you are involved with a women who abuses you verbally or physically, LET HER GO! There are too many women in the world

Women use that...you don't put hands on a woman...shit to their advantage and you know it.

Why should I have to restrain you? Why is that different?

 

[sean69]

I got a real life scenario on this one.

I know a dude. Pretty strong dude. Former linebacker in high school.

He had a girl. Really small girl. Like maybe 5'5" or something.

This girl used to BEAT THE SHIT out of this dude all the time. I mean she hit him with any and everything she could find. Pots, pans, broomsticks, mop handles...I think she picked up a tv one time (13") and slammed that shit on his head. She broke dudes arm with that damn TV. He NEVER hit her back.

His excuse. She was a woman. Her excuse. He's so much bigger than me that if I just hit him it won't hurt him so I need leverage. LEVERAGE.

One night she hit his ass square in the back of the head with a frying pan and while he was dazed she put a knife to his throat and told him she would kill him. I know because I was there when she did it. I grabbed her little ass before I could even think straight and flung her across the damn room. This nigga came to and was pissed off at ME!

I begged this nigga to leave that girl alone but all he would tell me was that she is a girl and it don't really hurt. I allow it because she is so much smaller than me.

Fuck that. I'm sorry. I used to think the same way as ya'll but... This is personal for me though because I knew about it but to be sitting there when it happened gave me a whole new perspective on that shit.

Sorry Andey but I stopped reading after the highlighted sentences ...

Your linebacker friend is an idiot of the rarest form.

Using this example as an argument makes as much sense as using unicorns that put butter in mashed potatoes as an argument for the rape.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I didn't read all of your post because I've heard it all before. MEN ARE STRONGER THAN WOMEN. Therefore no matter what she does to you, you can easily restrain her. I am speaking on the situation between a man and his woman--not some random gargantuan woman in the club acting out. Pin her arms to her sides or behind her back or wrap her in a bear hug and then call the police and remove yourself from the situation. Lastly, if you are involved with a women who abuses you verbally or physically, LET HER GO! There are too many women in the world

Since it's just a size and strength issue, there are men that are stronger than other men. If Shaddy goes and fucks around and hits Kimbo Slice, Kimbo can't hit him back because Shaddy is smaller?

 

[sean69]

For you saying don't hit a woman, what is the reason you are using?

Is it because she has a vagina?

Or she's smaller?

What is your logic as to why if a woman strikes you first, you cannot respond in kind?

Forget social mores. I'm speaking straight logic.

Because everything in the universe isn't algorithmic and subject to logical reduction.

But if you must.

Have a police record and possibly go to jail?
or
Not have a police record and stay at home and eat pancakes?

... over a weak ass feminine slap?

Logic.

 

[Blunt]

What is your logic as to why if a woman strikes you first, you cannot respond in kind?

Beating someone (smaller and weaker than you) to a pulp is not "responding in kind." Learn the difference. Fool.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Sorry Andey but I stopped reading after the highlighted sentences ...

Your linebacker friend is an idiot of the rarest form.

Using this example as an argument makes as much sense as using unicorns that put butter in mashed potatoes as an argument for the rape.

Makes sense to me. We as men are programmed to not hit women no matter what because they are smaller and weaker. Well I don't give a damn who you are a damn pot swinging is a damn pot swinging.

My point is she knew that he would never hit her back. The shit started out small. Slap here, punch there. Then it esculated.

People act like men can't be abused. If you love a woman and you don't want to leave but hitting you what can you realistically do as a man? He too damn macho to say he getting his ass beat by a woman.

It's a lot more out there cuz.

 

[Blunt]

Makes sense to me. We as men are programmed to not hit women no matter what because they are smaller and weaker.

Obviously not enough men, especially black ones.

Well I don't give a damn who you are a damn pot swinging is a damn pot swinging.

The law can sort out who did what, if there is EQUAL harm (or more harm to the man). That's hardly the norm.

My point is she knew that he would never hit her back. The shit started out small. Slap here, punch there. Then it esculated.

Sez who?

People act like men can't be abused.

They can be. But unfortunately, the morgues are filled mostly with black female victims of domestic abuse. Not male ones. (You're like that white dude who always cries about reverse-discrimination, while ignoring the most pervasive form of it, out of shameless self-interest.)

 

[sean69]

Makes sense to me. We as men are programmed to not hit women no matter what because they are smaller and weaker. Well I don't give a damn who you are a damn pot swinging is a damn pot swinging.

My point is she knew that he would never hit her back. The shit started out small. Slap here, punch there. Then it esculated.

People act like men can't be abused. If you love a woman and you don't want to leave but hitting you what can you realistically do as a man? He too damn macho to say he getting his ass beat by a woman.

It's a lot more out there cuz.

Answer: Be a fucking MAN! Get the fuck up out the relationship!

There's an evolutionary reason why men are biochemically wired differently from women for crying out loud!

I blame Kanye West!

*edit*

OK. Seriously though ... I was just thinking ... Andey ... first off how da fuck did ol girl beat dude with a TV?



Isn't dude a linebacker? Shrimp ass female picks up a TV and throws at him and he can't dodge? Da fuck is he dodging an offensive tackle?

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Beating someone (smaller and weaker than you) to a pulp is not "responding in kind." Learn the difference. Fool.

What are you talking about? You're talking about Rihanna? I'm not. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation. Pay attention and stop trying to elicit emotional responses. You know better bitch.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Since it's just a size and strength issue, there are men that are stronger than other men. If Shaddy goes and fucks around and hits Kimbo Slice, Kimbo can't hit him back because Shaddy is smaller?

??????

lolllllllllllllll


low key i seen some females fold a niggu with the quickness.

if you want to act like a boy...you get hit like a boy.

(not saying i hit females but i have slapped a few bitches in my time)

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Beating someone (smaller and weaker than you) to a pulp is not "responding in kind." Learn the difference. Fool.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Because everything in the universe isn't algorithmic and subject to logical reduction.

But if you must.

Have a police record and possibly go to jail?
or
Not have a police record and stay at home and eat pancakes?

... over a weak ass feminine slap?

Logic.

And what would you do if a man hit you? Would you walk away and think of eggs, flour, and milk?

 

[Blunt]

What are you talking about? You're talking about Rihanna?

Ain't no one else here.

I'm not. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation.

Your usual fantasy land?

Pay attention and stop trying to elicit emotional responses.

What's more pathetic than tough black men crying about NOT being allowed to beat up women in response to a HYPOTHETICAL slap or shove?

You know better bitch.

I know better than to talk about common sense and civility with the lowlife likes of you. Indeed.

(The common use of the word "bitch" over the last decade or two tells you all you need to know about how black men have sought to dehumanize [black] women, which ultimately has led to the current astronomical abuse and murder rate. The mindset is clear. No "hypothetical" needed.)

 

[followup]

Women use that...you don't put hands on a woman...shit to their advantage and you know it.

Why should I have to restrain you? Why is that different?

Because you are stronger. The laws are built against you as the "stronger sex" so you make your choice. Just like we have to accept certain things as women, as a man you need to accept it.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Obviously not enough men, especially black ones.



The law can sort out who did what, if there is EQUAL harm (or more harm to the man). That's hardly the norm.



Sez who?



They can be. But unfortunately, the morgues are filled mostly with black female victims of domestic abuse. Not male ones. (You're like that white dude who always cries about reverse-discrimination, while ignoring the most pervasive form of it, out of shameless self-interest.)

Aight I said I wouldn't respond but...

Are you fucking kidding me? Dude never hit her back. So sez me.

You are talking about reversing something because of what? The REPORTED cases of abuse??? How many men do you think report that their SPOUSE has abused them???

Get the hell on with that man.

 

[sean69]

And what would you do if a man hit you? Would you walk away and think of eggs, flour, and milk?

When all else fails ...

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Because you are stronger. The laws are built against you as the "stronger sex" so you make your choice. Just like we have to accept certain things as women, as a man you need to accept it.

I don't ever want to hear anymore "women empowerment" shit out of you again follow!

This has got to be some ol...

Look. Women want to be equal in every damn thing in this world until it's some shit that actually benefits them.

Like it or not women use that "mentality" to beat the shit out of dudes all day. And men just laugh it off most of the time because it really don't affect them that much. But when it do...

 

[followup]

I don't ever want to hear anymore "women empowerment" shit out of you again follow!

This has got to be some ol...

Look. Women want to be equal in every damn thing in this world until it's some shit that actually benefits them.

Like it or not women use that "mentality" to beat the shit out of dudes all day. And men just laugh it off most of the time because it really don't affect them that much. But when it do...

O.K. Good luck to you when you hit a woman and then start talking about equality. Hope you and Tiny get along in your jail cell.

 

[followup]

Oh. And a man who stays with a woman who is putting her hands on him deserves every hot slap that he gets. That is stupid.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Answer: Be a fucking MAN! Get the fuck up out the relationship!

There's an evolutionary reason why men are biochemically wired differently from women for crying out loud!

I blame Kanye West!

*edit*

OK. Seriously though ... I was just thinking ... Andey ... first off how da fuck did ol girl beat dude with a TV?



Isn't dude a linebacker? Shrimp ass female picks up a TV and throws at him and he can't dodge? Da fuck is he dodging an offensive tackle?

Come on man think about it...

Nah girl...go on and quit playing now...hey that goddamn broomstick hurt girl...I'm telling you to quit playing...Why you so damn mad all the...owwww SHIT now...I don't told you to get yo ass on out of here...goddamn girl what the fuck you doing...I'm about to go in here and lay down before I fuck you up...AND WHAT THE FUCK YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT DAMN TV...I'm just gone lay here on this damn bed...you take that damn tv and gone on bout yo damn business...leave then bitch...

And here comes the Magnavox 13" on your damn head.

 

[Blunt]

You are talking about reversing something because of what? The REPORTED cases of abuse??? How many men do you think report that their SPOUSE has abused them???

How many men end up in the morgue at the hands of their wives and girlfriends?? Compare and contrast, fool. It's the #1 cause of death (and injury) for black women 15-34.

 

[kjxxxx]

here is a scenario:

My ex and I was having a play fight. She started it. So when I got her into a submission, instead of saying I give she tries to grab my balls. At this point I say stop. If you continue I am going to punch you in your throat. After that, I warned her that had we not been playing and she grabbed my balls I would punch her with all my might or severely damage you with whatever means to make sure she release quickly.

That is one occasion when I would damage a woman. I have been kicked in the balls while playing soccer and had to go to the hospital and I know the excruciating pain associated with it. I have been utterly devoted to their protection ever since.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

??????

lolllllllllllllll


low key i seen some females fold a niggu with the quickness.

if you want to act like a boy...you get hit like a boy.

(not saying i hit females but i have slapped a few bitches in my time)

I don't hit women.

But I understand the logic behind it if they strike you first.

Fuck all that bullshit about she's a woman...logically.

Either you want equality or you don't. Can't claim to be just a woman and then say you are equal to a man.

And if it's just a size and strength issue...see my other post.

 

[sean69]

And what would you do if a man hit you? Would you walk away and think of eggs, flour, and milk?

Come on man think about it...

Nah girl...go on and quit playing now...hey that goddamn broomstick hurt girl...I'm telling you to quit playing...Why you so damn mad all the...owwww SHIT now...I don't told you to get yo ass on out of here...goddamn girl what the fuck you doing...I'm about to go in here and lay down before I fuck you up...AND WHAT THE FUCK YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT DAMN TV...I'm just gone lay here on this damn bed...you take that damn tv and gone on bout yo damn business...leave then bitch...

And here comes the Magnavox 13" on your damn head.

*dead*

 

[Andeyhollawho]

O.K. Good luck to you when you hit a woman and then start talking about equality. Hope you and Tiny get along in your jail cell.

Oh. And a man who stays with a woman who is putting her hands on him deserves every hot slap that he gets. That is stupid.

So a woman who stays with a man that is hitting her doesn't deserve the same thing???

I never said I hit a woman. If a woman make me that damn angry I don't need to be with her. But everybody don't think like me. Men and women included.

 

[Andeyhollawho]

How many men end up in the morgue at the hands of their wives and girlfriends?? Compare and contrast, fool. It's the #1 cause of death (and injury) for black women 15-34.

Fred Lane's wife shot him with a goddamn pump 12 gauge and got 8 years for it.

You do the math.

 

[sean69]

How many men end up in the morgue at the hands of their wives and girlfriends?? Compare and contrast, fool. It's the #1 cause of death (and injury) for black women 15-34.

Is this stat true?

Source please?

here is a scenario:

My ex and I was having a play fight. She started it. So when I got her into a submission, instead of saying I give she tries to grab my balls. At this point I say stop. If you continue I am going to punch you in your throat. After that, I warned her that had we not been playing and she grabbed my balls I am going to punch you with all my might or severely damage you with whatever means to make sure you release quickly.

That is one occasion when I would damage a woman.

How can she grab?

I don't hit women.

But I understand the logic behind it if they strike you first.

Fuck all that bullshit about she's a woman...logically.

Either you want equality or you don't. Can't claim to be just a woman and then say you are equal to a man.

And if it's just a size and strength issue...see my other post.

Ambivalent lookin' ass nicca

 

[Blunt]

I don't hit women.

But I understand the logic behind it if they strike you first.

What logic? If someone (man or woman) strikes or slaps you (in a non-lethal way), you then have the right to beat them half to death? Sez who?

Fuck all that bullshit about she's a woman...logically.

Do you feel the same about children?

Either you want equality or you don't. Can't claim to be just a woman and then say you are equal to a man.

How is assault a matter of equality?? There's nothing equal about a 6'1" man beating, biting and choking a smaller, much weaker woman (or man).

 

[Andeyhollawho]

Battered Men - The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence
835,000 men battered each year, silent too long ...

http://www.batteredmen.com/

In May, 2007, researchers with the Centers for Disease Control reported on rates of self-reported violence among intimate partners using data from a 2001 study. In the study, almost one-quarter of participants reported some violence in their relationships. Half of these involved one-sided ("non-reciprocal") attacks and half involved both assaults and counter assaults ("reciprocal violence"). Women reported committing one-sided attacks more than twice as often as men (70% versus 29%). In all cases of intimate partner violence, women were more likely to be injured than men, but 25% of men in relationships with two-sided violence reported injury compared to 20% of women reporting injury in relationships with one-sided violence. Women were more likely to be injured in non-reciprocal violence.[32]

While much attention has been focused on domestic violence against women, men's rights activists argue that domestic violence against men is a social problem that is also worthy of attention.[15] Each year, 834,000 men are raped or physically assaulted by intimate partners an average 3.5 times/year, for a total of 2.9 million assaults/year (4.9 million for women).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence#Violence_against_men

 

[shaddyvillethug]

blunt....we not talking about rihanna.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Ain't no one else here.

Your usual fantasy land?

What's more pathetic than tough black men crying about NOT being allowed to beat up women in response to a HYPOTHETICAL slap or shove?

I know better than to talk about common sense and civility with the lowlife likes of you. Indeed.

(The common use of the word "bitch" over the last decade or two tells you all you need to know about how black men have sought to dehumanize [black] women, which ultimately has led to the current astronomical abuse and murder rate. The mindset is clear. No "hypothetical" needed.)

Nice of you to not address my points, but thanks. No one is "crying" about not being able to hit women. You must've missed where I said I would never do it.

 

[sean69]

Do you feel the same about children?

This is actually a good argument.

And before we get all gray and vague here, let's say children range from a one day old infant to say ... meh ... a 10 year old.

Preffly a female.

Discuss ...

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Because you are stronger. The laws are built against you as the "stronger sex" so you make your choice. Just like we have to accept certain things as women, as a man you need to accept it.

I agree. Like less pay for the same work, etc...