DarkMind said:I don't see why. It's real simple.
We've had this conversation before kayanation. I don't see what the problem is.
Words, definitions and their pronunciation are defined by dictionaries.
The dictionaries are compilations by the people who created the language.
This is true of all languages (English, Japanese, Spanish, etc.)
Words already have set meanings, definitions and pronunciations for that particular language. You can't just make up your own as you see fit and have it be considered the standard.
Darkmind said:That has nothing to do with whether words are being spoken properly or not. It is an unconscious learned behavior. I know people who use the word "uhm" before every sentence, it doesn't mean that they are speaking incorrectly.
Just because Funkmaster Flex, uses "know what I mean" after every other sentence does not mean he's talking incorrectly.
DarkMind said:First of all, as racist as you are, I refuse to believe you KNOW a lot of white people.
Second of all, most white people would not be able to get along in their own society if they did not speak properly.
DarkMind said:No white people know if they are speaking their own language correctly.
DarkMind said:kayanation,
1. White people, including the ones in America, DID create the English language
Darkmind said:2. No matter how you try to spin it, speaking "like" after every two words does not mean you're speaking incorrectly. You might as well give up on this one.
DarkMind said:And like gameboy said in his post, there are a lot of white kids who imitate rappers and thugs, so they can't talk either.
DarkMind said:The fact is languages have set rules. Race has nothing to do with it.
MassaQ said:You need to read up. Languages are living. They change with time.
DwayneWayne said:Man I had this class already:
Standard American English
http://www.pbs.org/speak/seatosea/standardamerican/
Ask a group of experts to define Standard American English, and you'll find, paradoxically, there's no standard answer. Even the editors of The American Heritage Dictionary are careful to qualify their definition
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American Heritage goes on to explain that the term:
is highly elastic and variable, since what counts as Standard English will depend on both the locality and the particular varieties that Standard English is being contrasted with. A form that is considered standard in one region may be nonstandard in another...
Where does this leave us? American Heritage suggests there's no single, universally accepted standard for how to speak or write American English
DarkMind said:As you can see here kayanation has a tendency to LIE a lot.![]()
I never say the language is fixed. I said that words have set definitions and meanings and you can't just make up your own because you feel like it and claim it's the standard.
DarkMind said:See??? I win. You lose.
NOW HAVE A SEAT, SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.
NUMBER 1.
According to American Heritage:
American Heritage suggests there's no single, universally accepted standard for how to speak or write American English
American Heritage goes on to explain that the term:
is highly elastic and variable
QUESTION: Why do black people think white people speak properly in light of the above???????
NUMBER 2.
You said "White people, including the ones in America, DID create the English language"
QUESTION:

From Library Journal
The English language has depended heavily on linguistic borrowing of grammar and words from many other languages. Here, Holloway and Vass set out to show just how American English has been enriched by African languages. The authors relied on some previous scholarship but also conducted their own extensive research. As a result, they discovered that the Gullah dialect of the Southeastern United States contains a core Bantu lexicon of 35.2 percent, though linguistic connections to many other languages are also evident. The authors consider not only compiled word lists but also social customs like traditional naming practices. Gullah speakers, for instance, have two and sometimes three distinct names: an English one for public use, an African one for private family use, and a characteristic "community" name. Impressive research and attention to detail makes this book a valuable addition to African American subject collections in academic libraries. Though technical, public library patrons will also benefit this book.

- A Dictionary of Africanisms: Contributions of Sub-Saharan Africa to the English Language by Gerard M. Dalgish
Phylon (1960-), Vol. 44, No. 1 (1st Qtr., 1983), pp. 88-90
doi:10.2307/274374
Again I will make my point.
I am not telling any black person how they should speak.
However I am also telling black people that it is a racist myth that whites speak properly and their ENUNCIATION is something we HAVE TO conform to to succeed. Correct grammar should be enough.