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Why did you stop going to church?
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Man...at a young age pops was/is heavy into church. He would come pick me up Sunday morning at 7:30am, and be in there until 6:30pm. As a kid damn, I only get two days out of school and every Sunday he took my whole day. I can honestly admit me and brother should’ve been dead a long time ago. I credit my pops being heavy invested in church god look over us.
Bruh, if you don't know that life is a constant stream of feelings, then I can't help you. Because that is basically what we take from this, and as the buddhist say, samsara. How you deal with life is your feelings about this and that. It is a choice to hate it or like it. There are universal truths we have when it comes to dealing with things. Your feelings are the only thing real in this life, everything else is an illusion. You can go good or your can go bad. Most of us chose to go good. Also, if you chose not to acknowledge your maker, then you are on your own. So, you tell me, if you have children you don't want them to acknowledge you are their dad, acknowledge the work it took to get them here and to keep them here? So, why would you negate the work your maker done for you. If you are saying we were made by the Annanuki, then who made them, if that being is not the original then who made him? However, who made who, is the maker of you, and that being should be honored because he or she made you out of nothing.
You speak about children honoring and acknowledging their father. If we are really tie that analogy to a creator God would be the deadbeat dad you never met, but always send the checks on time.
If you had a father like that how much acknowledgment would you give him? Is his financial support alone really reason enough to honor him? Especially if you never knew his name, never saw a picture of him, and never spoke to him before?
Now suppose one day you get an unknown phone call from a man who claims to be your dad. He says "Hi son, my name is Bob and I have important work for you to do...." How would you even know it's him? Even if you did believe for whatever reason why would you feel obligated to do anything he told you?
To be honest, you would owe that man. You would not be able to complain and gripe about what he did or didn't do if you did not exist. You would not exist without him. Even if he is a deadbeat, you owe him your life. It took me awhile to come to this conclusion. But these are facts that are unchangeable.
When i was in Mississippi,
I was invited to a church.
There was a special guest pastor from South Africa giving the sermon.
I peeped how they passed the collection plate early in the service.
then when they started singing and the live band had everyone jumping, hollering and catching the holy ghost.
They passed the collection plate AGAIN!!!
I thought that was a bit fishy.
that's not why I stopped going,
I was never a big church person.
I believe in God, but just don't believe in these mofos
I was invited to a church.
There was a special guest pastor from South Africa giving the sermon.
I peeped how they passed the collection plate early in the service.
then when they started singing and the live band had everyone jumping, hollering and catching the holy ghost.
They passed the collection plate AGAIN!!!
I thought that was a bit fishy.
that's not why I stopped going,
I was never a big church person.
I believe in God, but just don't believe in these mofos
I went to Eddie Long's church a couple of times. Both sermons were about praying so that the Lord would make prosperity come to you. I still believe in God. If I get married again, it'll be in a church and after that, I won't go unless she wants me to, but not all the time.
Too many to list but here are just a few...
1. I actually read the Bible and it is filled with foolishness like this:
God sends bears to maul kids for laughing at a bald man
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2. Nobody could ever explain how God had time to answer prayers for "prosperity" but not those of suffering/dying children and other people suffering. It seems that an all powerful/all knowing being would be able to respond to things in order of importance. We would fire and probably criminally charge an EMT that stopped performing CPR on a dying person to help someone with a headache...
3. If god is omniscient, how the fuck does he choose the most fucked up/scheming people to be his earthly ambassadors every time?
I wouldn't trust an accountant with multiple civil judgements to do my taxes or a crackhead doctor, but I am supposed to trust an ex con preacher to "save" me from eternal damnation?
1. I actually read the Bible and it is filled with foolishness like this:
God sends bears to maul kids for laughing at a bald man
:2. Nobody could ever explain how God had time to answer prayers for "prosperity" but not those of suffering/dying children and other people suffering. It seems that an all powerful/all knowing being would be able to respond to things in order of importance. We would fire and probably criminally charge an EMT that stopped performing CPR on a dying person to help someone with a headache...
3. If god is omniscient, how the fuck does he choose the most fucked up/scheming people to be his earthly ambassadors every time?
I wouldn't trust an accountant with multiple civil judgements to do my taxes or a crackhead doctor, but I am supposed to trust an ex con preacher to "save" me from eternal damnation?
The only reason I went to church was for the women and the broad who decides to sit next to me didn't want to give up the ass. So I look around the church and the rest of the women weren't hitting on shit looks wise. So I stopped going regularly and than everytime I would go back the pastor would preach from the book of Malachi "Shall a man rob God" which is about tithing. What finally broke it for me is I went back the last time and the senior pastor was apparently pissed that the junior pastor left to start his own church and he started to preach about men not going to church and the only men that were in church were either gay or married and that the women weren't all that decent. So I look around and said to myself I'm not gay and these broads are some of the plainest unsexy muthafuckas I've ever seen and I haven't been back since.
TryYes...
Grown ass goddam dusty fuck nigga that's gotta arch eyebrows with dirty blades and try to make a living at it.
Your life is SHIT... And I believe it!
provide the proof or are you gonna keep making up shit?
Exactly. We call people who admit that they speak to someone who isn’t “there” insane yet people who claim to speak with god are not called insane.
The gym is the real church. Whites just created their own reality for the supremacy of their weakness or their genes.
Because of Christianity 10 thousand were killed before night came when the genocide of Rwanda started. They killed around a million people in 100 days.
Who bought his gas and the car he drove?
A number of reasons that are personal but these two are it for me
1. I noticed that most who spoke of living a holy life were more corrupt than the sinners
2. Mega Church????????????? All that money building those churches could have been building homes. I believe in God and wont date a woman if she does not believe in a higher power. Could be a Buda idgaf.
One of my homeboys was like how often do you go to ur moms plot? I said man its going on 5 years and maybe twice. He was like man you need to go see her more often. I laughed and said man I can talk to moms anytime I want. Her energy is always around. I don't have to go to a place where her physical body lies with no soul.
As I mentioned I believe in a God, but I don't feel the need to go to a physical building to appreciate whatever higher power you believe in.
1. I noticed that most who spoke of living a holy life were more corrupt than the sinners
2. Mega Church????????????? All that money building those churches could have been building homes. I believe in God and wont date a woman if she does not believe in a higher power. Could be a Buda idgaf.
One of my homeboys was like how often do you go to ur moms plot? I said man its going on 5 years and maybe twice. He was like man you need to go see her more often. I laughed and said man I can talk to moms anytime I want. Her energy is always around. I don't have to go to a place where her physical body lies with no soul.
As I mentioned I believe in a God, but I don't feel the need to go to a physical building to appreciate whatever higher power you believe in.
There's a lot in that question. As for his personal business, I don't care. If the church bought it or if he bought it with the money he made from the church doesn't matter to me. That's his job, man! Yes, he is supposed to be the spiritual leader of the church and the spiritual adviser to the parishioners, but why he gotta be broke? I know that there are many preachers out there just about the money and stealing from the church/people. Them cats is out there and I believe that God is going to deal with them in due time. You have to ferret those cats out and get them out of your life.
As for what I personally believe about giving money to the church, I give because God has been faithful to me. It has nothing to do with the preacher or what I think about the church. If I didn't buy in to this church's mission, then I would find one to give to. It doesn't have to be Christian, but that's my belief, so that's what I do.
Having said this, you need to understand that I am on the financial committee for my church. I know exactly what the pastor makes. Shit, anybody in the church that wants to know just has to come to the meetings or read the minutes! It's more than most, but not as much as some. He earns it, though and he writes books and preaches in other churches and what not. I don't ever knock the hustle, but dude is what he says he is that I can tell, so I support.
You're a walking contradiction homie. There's no other way to explain why people are inherently good than a high power. There's no way to explain how the universe is in such order than a higher power. You people confuse religion with belief. You take the inconsistencies in a book written by man and use that to discredit the all powerful. That's illogical because god has made it evident you just choose to ignore it.
That's his job, man! Yes, he is supposed to be the spiritual leader of the church and the spiritual adviser to the parishioners, but why he gotta be broke?
Jesus job was carpenter, and he did way more than these modern preachers. So, why they can't get a job too.
I don't think there's ever been a time in my adult life that I've been a real believer. My parents spent a lot of money sending me to Catholic schools and I've tried to believe but I could never overcome the lack of tangible evidence. I remember I was in either in High school or jr. high when my neighbor died on the floor at Chrysler, everyone was crying and I thought to myself then, he's died, just in the ground, there is no afterlife.
I don't discuss it with people. I've seen many aethists who have to tell everyone about their lack of faith, I don't talk about it.
I don't discuss it with people. I've seen many aethists who have to tell everyone about their lack of faith, I don't talk about it.
The reason why people are inherently good is because of tribalism.
Back in the day, if you went around killing, raping, and stealing from your own tribe they would cast you out. This ensured the safety and peace of mind of other people in the tribe and a near-certain death for the outcast.
When being good=survival for long enough it eventually becomes an inherent human trait.
I accept the Bible as a remarkable work of oral history standing over a thousand years and three world empires. it shows how are ancestors thought, believed, and acted in various situations. It also shows how the leaders created gods as a way to force compliance through divine rewards and punishments that the tribe couldn't offer.
it doesn't prove or disprove the existence of God. Just shows how our ancestors thought.
as for whether or not the human race came about by accident or design, I honestly don't know. And the truth is nobody else does either.
If you want to talk about what's evident, look up at the sky and you will see very clearly that the sun rotates around the Earth. it is so evident in fact there for over a thousand years the church would put you to death for saying otherwise.
I call them evangelical atheists and they are almost as annoying as Christians. I am saying this as an atheist myself.
1) my pops went to the community megachurch to get them to host a basketball game tournament and they said he had to pay 5 grand.
2) I saw a reverend getting into a Porsche jeep after service.
I wrote a poem about that horseshit, here is an except:
"How can I ride with the reverend when the reverend rides around in a Porsche 911
B M Dubs with the dubs but rebuke the thugs that make a profit and living off drugs
Let's get analytical on all the hypocritical
Both profit off people when lives are miserable"
2) I saw a reverend getting into a Porsche jeep after service.
I wrote a poem about that horseshit, here is an except:
"How can I ride with the reverend when the reverend rides around in a Porsche 911
B M Dubs with the dubs but rebuke the thugs that make a profit and living off drugs
Let's get analytical on all the hypocritical
Both profit off people when lives are miserable"
I feel you fam. My neighbor is super religious and keeps trying to get me on board, and I just reply "nah I'm good".
Maybe the church they go to, didn't do that. The one I went to as a child in the 70s did, the one in the 80s, no. And stop equating a church with God. Two different animals. A building that you go to on Sunday mornings to hear a guy in a $3,000 suit that you paid for read you fairy tale is not "God", and opting not to go and be involved in that bullshit doesn't mean that a person doesn't believe. I knew an old lady that was VERY religious that stopped going to church, because she found the pastor was fucking a male choir member. Instead of going to church, she continued to worship on her own, and invited people over to her home to worship with her until the day she died. She didn't need to get up early on a weekend morning to go to a building with a never ending "parking lot" or "building" fund to do that. For every "good" church story y'all have, there are about 10 "bad" church stories.
Many years ago, when the pastor was providing premarital counseling to my first wife and I he told me that if I joined his church he would host my wedding and funeral for free. because, as he put it, "weddings and funerals is how we attract most of our members".
I hated that man, but will always respect him for being real with me.
I call them evangelical atheists and they are almost as annoying as Christians. I am saying this as an atheist myself.
I don't like them either, but I get it.
At the end of the day atheism has little to do with science, corrupt churches, contradictory bible verses, colonizers with crosses. or any of that other stuff.
The real question is what happens when someone puts a gun to your head?
Do you silently pray to God to help you get through it? Do you comfort yourself with thoughts of a cushy afterlife? Or does that stuff not even enter your mind?
It's a bit like how you have people who are straight, gay, bi, pan-sexual, etc. but then at the end of the spectrum you have people who aren't attracted to anyone. That's how atheists are about religion.
For years we've been taught to be ashamed of that lack of feelings. Told to pray more, give more to the church, rebuke the devil harder, to spend hours begging God for his holy spirit with tears in our eyes, but no matter what we just don't feel what everyone else does. Without that feeling all that's left is the facts, but these facts never seem to add up.
A lot of us fake our devotion for the sake of friends and family, but eventually it becomes too much. We end up telling the world what we've been keeping inside and once you do that it's hard to shut up about it after.
Tribes and clans caused more murders and wars that it stopped. White people were barbarians. All they did was kill, rape, and steal. Human nature, culture, and spirituality is why people are inherently good. It's by design. You have to be pretty stupid to look up into the sky, day after day, and think the sun rotated around the earth. My people in Africa never though otherwise homie. But I guess your speaking of your people.
When my brother and I (15 and I was 12 at the time) was at bible study.... my brother asked.. "do we get to go to sleep in Heaven?"... the session was about all the stuff you will be doing in Heaven lol
I started to hold in my laugh and the Deacon was pissed as hell lol started saying off the wall shit... that's when I knew at a young age that religion may be true but no one really knows. So just live your life accordingly .
I started to hold in my laugh and the Deacon was pissed as hell lol started saying off the wall shit... that's when I knew at a young age that religion may be true but no one really knows. So just live your life accordingly .
They killed other tribes, but they generally kept the peace within their own walls. that was the whole point. Be good to one another so we can stand together and bash our enemy's brains in. Something they usually did in the name of whatever God they were worshiping no less.
As for the sun. I'm sure you've heard the old saying "The sun rises in the east and sets in the west."I'm not sure where it originated but whoever coined it clearly thought that the sun was moving, not the Earth.
Yeshua would not attend today's churches either and the complaints made in this thread is what got the "established church of his day" to have him seemed and killed for calling them out.
Yeshua called out money changers who would be those crooked preachers and mega churches and also the lying pen of the scribes(lying preachers today with not so righteous mptives).
I find it ironic people can't see the irony of calling themselves followers of Christ and doing and acting in ways contrary to what Yeshua was actually teaching.
Yeshua would stop attending majority of these churches too which says something more about the people and preachers with their crooked or corrupt ways.
Yeshua called out money changers who would be those crooked preachers and mega churches and also the lying pen of the scribes(lying preachers today with not so righteous mptives).
I find it ironic people can't see the irony of calling themselves followers of Christ and doing and acting in ways contrary to what Yeshua was actually teaching.
Yeshua would stop attending majority of these churches too which says something more about the people and preachers with their crooked or corrupt ways.
Most of them do have jobs outside the clergy. In those cases, they many times have hard times serving as full service ministers. I'll bet you have a full time job. Can you imagine, you work all day and get off, then somebody call you and tell you that they momma in the hospital and you have to go to wherever that is and sit with them. They might call you to pray for them or to counsel them because they marriage bout to fall apart. That's of course when you don't have meetings to go to or bible study every week. Our pastor does 2 of those every week. There is no doubt in my mind that a preacher who is really doing the job has a great deal of his time taken by it-if his church has more than 100 members. Hell, it really tests some of their marriages and many don't survive.
Can't knock the hustle when they're keeping it honest with you. You aren't getting duped or gamed.
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