The body is the real temple. The question is why do we follow whites and live by everything that comes out or from white males? Our true history and true identity is so hid.
Why did you stop going to church?
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Here in NY they put churches in store fronts.
The Hypocrisy,
When I see Pastors, Reverends, Ministers and so called Prophets live in palatial estates and drive around in top of the line automobiles.
While you see their parishioners who are financially struggling to make ends meet are prompted by these church leaders with fear and guilt to give their last if they want to be blessed or prosper.
Not to mention the sordid immorality, financial thievery and sexual misconduct of these men of the cloth.
When I see Pastors, Reverends, Ministers and so called Prophets live in palatial estates and drive around in top of the line automobiles.
While you see their parishioners who are financially struggling to make ends meet are prompted by these church leaders with fear and guilt to give their last if they want to be blessed or prosper.
Not to mention the sordid immorality, financial thievery and sexual misconduct of these men of the cloth.
Church is a business and a joke. My momma is super religious. Had us in church every Sunday when we were younger. She stopped going for like 15 years after a bad experience. Pastor of church we were going to tried to sleep with her. We left, and years later found out the FBI was looking for that bastard over some money laundering shit. She always told me that church was more about fellowship and wasn't a requirement. But most christians believe thats how they get to heaven. Church isnt even a factor in the Bible. I havent been in ages but still believe in God. And the stories I hear about some of the bigger churches round here 
ATMs in church? Pastors balling out in nice cars, houses, and jewelry. Hell one pastor round here even got bodyguards. And Ill never forget when I was in my homie's wedding. He's a memeber of a large church. When we were there for rehearsal, I remember the pastor pulling up in a vintage Rolls Royce. My guy was like, the pastor made them pay to use the church for their wedding. Told them they hadn't been tithing like they should be. Im good on church.
ATMs in church? Pastors balling out in nice cars, houses, and jewelry. Hell one pastor round here even got bodyguards. And Ill never forget when I was in my homie's wedding. He's a memeber of a large church. When we were there for rehearsal, I remember the pastor pulling up in a vintage Rolls Royce. My guy was like, the pastor made them pay to use the church for their wedding. Told them they hadn't been tithing like they should be. Im good on church.
I stopped because one of the married sistas from the church gave my wife an anniversary gift that included a bottle of liquor and a dildo cause that chick used to be a lesbian and wanted the drawls.
I stopped going because I found out numerous pastors were trying to get the drawls too also after they ruined their marraiges cause of infidelity.
I stopped going because too many little boys that came from lesbian households started liking my sons.
I stopped going becuase of the negative influence my wifes gay gospel singer cousin had over her and turned her against her entire family.
Starting to get the picture? Many churches, many states, many players but the game is the same.
I stopped going because I found out numerous pastors were trying to get the drawls too also after they ruined their marraiges cause of infidelity.
I stopped going because too many little boys that came from lesbian households started liking my sons.
I stopped going becuase of the negative influence my wifes gay gospel singer cousin had over her and turned her against her entire family.
Starting to get the picture? Many churches, many states, many players but the game is the same.
Fuck that niggaahBecause of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Once I hoid one of Malcolm X Speeches I was like "wow"
When I hoid the Honorable Elijah Muhammad schpeeches, I KNEW that the white man is the devil. When I loined that the white man is the devil that the bible speaks of, ALL made sense to me. When he told me that God is black, I fell out into a 12 hour coma. Lights start coming on. I stopped getting flue shots, I stopped screwing with white womens, I stopped eating port. When the Honorable Elijah Muhammad tole me that he would ALLOW me to have up to 4 fine black american wives and 2 concubines (1 african, and 1 asian), I was SOLD on Islam. It is the only truthful religion for the black man in the hells of noith america. White Jesus Christianity told me that I wasn't shit and I believed him. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad that the black man was GOD and that Allah who came to us in the person of one Master Fard Muhammad to all holy praises due forever, I knew it had to be the truth. The first truth is that the white man is the devil, and the second truth is that Master Fard Muhammad is God Almighty
himself! When one understands the system of white devil supremacy and loins that the white man is the devil, this is the foundation of all wisdom as the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us.
There is no God But Allah and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is his last and greatest messenger.
Asalamalaikum and Alaikumsalam.
Some of the bible stories really have good intentions, but some really make me scratch my head like what. Case in point, God ..has sex with mary (immaculate conception) and Jesus was born. Huh? Then God allowed these fuckheads to take Jesus (his son) beat the living shit out of him and torture him by nailing him to a cross. Huh? Question: would you let somebody do that to your son? Hell nall. Y'all niggas gone die before I do that. Oh he died for our sins and motherfuckers still sinning so what was the point. Why does God always tell one dude how people should live (the prophet)? Why Sway? Just tell e'body out loud. And stories like this just fuck me up. Not only that, slavers used Christianity to enslave the mind. People are free to practice any religion, but they choose to practice the one they were beat and tortured to believe in. Makes no sense to me. It's literally the religion of our oppressor. And yes we are still be oppressed with it, turn the other cheek.
Anyone who continues to except the religion/programing forced on their ancestors by their enemies will continue to be enslaved...
thinking about slavery is one of the reasons I stopped believing in religion. i was like how can I believe in this religious following of trust in God, God is always watching, live for God and you’ll get to heaven and then ask myself if there’s a god how did we go through 400 years of slavery. Do you know how many millions of people suffered through that time. Even in today’s world I see so much evil going on, suffering going on but then I’ll hear someone say they giot a new house, car, job and say it was because god answered their prayers
When you say decent, what do you mean? You don't ruffle feathers and still go or you just live life according to how you see fit and put good things into the universe and get them back type of thing?
Told this story before, but here's the short version: One day when I was 15 or so, I realized they were full of shit and I told my dad as much. He looked at me for about 10 seconds and said, "Fair enough.", and that was it. For the record, my pops didn't go either, that was some shit my stepmom is heavily into.
Batman what’s up...
The funny thing is that the Bible and religion usual provide people with somewhat of a blueprint in which to conduct one’s self, but all the mysticism ruins it. That’s said, I go out of support of my wife but she is well aware I am not a believer. In addition, through my interactions with people and experiences, I try to respect and treat people in a dignified manner. I put as much good into the universe as i can, but I’m no fool. Praying for results and turning the other cheek will get you killed.
I just recently stopped because I realized church folks are mean, judgmental, hypocritical and aren't accepting of others not like them. And most adulterers are in the church, and they're all sleeping with each other.
I'm still a believer in God but my relationship with God is personal and that's what I focus on. I still think my pastor is a great teacher but I'll listen to CD's if necessary, but overall I'm good on church.
Even told my family when I die cremate me but don't have people standing over me acting like they know me.
I'm still a believer in God but my relationship with God is personal and that's what I focus on. I still think my pastor is a great teacher but I'll listen to CD's if necessary, but overall I'm good on church.
Even told my family when I die cremate me but don't have people standing over me acting like they know me.
facts are facts, once you realize a sham it’s hard to believe what you can’t see.
I still go for weddings, funerals, and other such occasions, but it's not nearly as much fun when you don't believe in God.
You mean the hell described in the Bible or the one Dante pulled out of his ass a thousand years after Jesus died?
Best example I can give about God and church. I've said it on BGOL before, but IMO it's worth repeating.
Supposed you discovered a cure for cancer. It's a pill you take every morning for 30 days. After that, complete lifelong remission.
You start selling your pills, but there's a problem. Someone has copied your product. Same looking bottle, same looking packaging, same everything, except their version contains a poison that will kill you in 30 days.
At this point you have a responsibility to let people know the difference between your product and the imposter's. Failing to do so is not only morally wrong, it would land you in prison, even under our corrupt morally bankrupted justice system.
So why don't we hold God to that same standard? Insist that he goes after people who misuse his authority and teachings for their own destructive purposes?
Instead, when we see Christians killing themselves in Waco, Jonestown, or by not seeking proper medical attention we just shrug our shoulders and say "it's their own fault for being fools." Same thing we say when a prosperity pimp swindles them out of their money.
Meanwhile, when it comes to knowing what's true or what God wants (assuming s/he even exists) we're just as lost as they are.
Supposed you discovered a cure for cancer. It's a pill you take every morning for 30 days. After that, complete lifelong remission.
You start selling your pills, but there's a problem. Someone has copied your product. Same looking bottle, same looking packaging, same everything, except their version contains a poison that will kill you in 30 days.
At this point you have a responsibility to let people know the difference between your product and the imposter's. Failing to do so is not only morally wrong, it would land you in prison, even under our corrupt morally bankrupted justice system.
So why don't we hold God to that same standard? Insist that he goes after people who misuse his authority and teachings for their own destructive purposes?
Instead, when we see Christians killing themselves in Waco, Jonestown, or by not seeking proper medical attention we just shrug our shoulders and say "it's their own fault for being fools." Same thing we say when a prosperity pimp swindles them out of their money.
Meanwhile, when it comes to knowing what's true or what God wants (assuming s/he even exists) we're just as lost as they are.
Echo hope all is well...
I feel that. Like most here, I too began to question things after seeing some videos (Hidden colors) and seeing some things others have pointed out. How it has been used as theatricality and deception all the while stealing land, people or resources from the people they were trying to help. Consistently needing tithes (I get it, church has to pay their bills too) but to create a list of who gave what and shame them for it? I do believe in a higher power, but I don't know to the degree that the Bible has painted it to be. I'm sure there are millions of secrets the Vatican has but won't disclose because gotta keep the sheep as sheep. But I do my best to do good in this world and expect nothing in return. Faith without works is dead... Hope you, you're family and all those reading have a safe and prosperous new year.
I feel that. Like most here, I too began to question things after seeing some videos (Hidden colors) and seeing some things others have pointed out. How it has been used as theatricality and deception all the while stealing land, people or resources from the people they were trying to help. Consistently needing tithes (I get it, church has to pay their bills too) but to create a list of who gave what and shame them for it? I do believe in a higher power, but I don't know to the degree that the Bible has painted it to be. I'm sure there are millions of secrets the Vatican has but won't disclose because gotta keep the sheep as sheep. But I do my best to do good in this world and expect nothing in return. Faith without works is dead... Hope you, you're family and all those reading have a safe and prosperous new year.
Case in point: Eddie Long organized actual marches against faggotry and drew a good crowd that hated both the sinner AND the sin. When they found out Eddie Long was digging up in young men's buttholes, all of a sudden, it was "love the sinner, hate the sin". When I got older, I asked my stepmom how she justified following a preacher that was fucking his secretary behind his wife's back and stealing money from the church, she said, "We're supposed to focus on the message, and not the man." I literally chuckled and walked away shaking my head. Btw, he ended up in jail. Pastor Earl Paulk, Chapel Hill Harvester Church.
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My mom and I had this discussion just this weekend because my family is HUGE into church and when I'm home I will go with them but when she said you can't focus on his sin....I said girl stop playing and laughed.
RealIzed that church was more entertainment and style than substance. It’s basically a weekly pep talk that, after being beat over the head with it as a kid, I realized I wasn’t learning anything new. That and I saw into and past the money hustle.
The church is also used to organize black folks to march to the drumbeat of politicians every election cycle because lord knows you can’t question pastor. Dude is basically an overlord who commands your money your mind and will fuck your woman if given the chance. That sort of voluntarily obedience is cultish, because religion is basically a bunch of cults.
Finally, I took a long deep look at the hood, the circumstances around it and the amount of money going into the black church vs the output of capital projects and jobs that the inner city has......and they don’t match one another. Add to it, the Christian church in general but especially the black church, teaches folks to be subservient and obedient even when you’re getting your ass kicked. Prayer is overrated and action is rarely mentioned.Religion has done little to move us forward as a people IMO and my time and money are better spent on my family and building generational plans of action for them and my immediate circle.
The church is also used to organize black folks to march to the drumbeat of politicians every election cycle because lord knows you can’t question pastor. Dude is basically an overlord who commands your money your mind and will fuck your woman if given the chance. That sort of voluntarily obedience is cultish, because religion is basically a bunch of cults.
Finally, I took a long deep look at the hood, the circumstances around it and the amount of money going into the black church vs the output of capital projects and jobs that the inner city has......and they don’t match one another. Add to it, the Christian church in general but especially the black church, teaches folks to be subservient and obedient even when you’re getting your ass kicked. Prayer is overrated and action is rarely mentioned.Religion has done little to move us forward as a people IMO and my time and money are better spent on my family and building generational plans of action for them and my immediate circle.
This is why me and my wife attend Bedside Baptist. My favorite hymn? "Yonder On The Cooler Side of The Pillow".
Because I like to sin, so there was no need for me to pretend. Amongst other reasons as well...
"I'm not so bad, I just like to do what the bad folks do." - Fatback Band from "Backstrokin'"
Same to you king.
in short, it flies in the face of logic, common-sense. It demands that you simply accept things that cannot and have never been duplicated “...just ‘cause” and that’s the critic the incompetent. I’m loyal and conduct myself selflessly with the ones that matter. I’m strong enough to navigate life without an invisible savior.
Asides from the stupidity of it, cause it's boring as hell.
I think it's what people experience personally in their lives. There have been a bunch of cats on here talking about why they don't go to church, but it's only like 3 stories:
1. Somebody went to a bad church that is not preaching, teaching or uplifting people. After going through that, they then assign that activity of people to God. It's really just people fucking things up like everybody like people do with everything, but the idea of belonging to a church body is an overall good thing....if it's a good church.
2. Church is a racket and the preacher is living high and the people in the congregation is living on the street. I will guarantee you two things 1) If the preacher is paid, there are people in that church ballin'. 2) The preacher didn't make it so that people are living check to check and can't work their finances. It's funny how we can except everybody else being prosperous but the cat that says,"if you trust and believe, God will bless you." On the real, if a cat says that to me and don't have two nickels to rub together, he really is full of shit. Another thing about money: You need to understand that giving tithes is not about the church or the preacher. It's really about your faithfulness to God. I have been tithing for a good two decades and I have done nothing but increase. As a matter of fact the last time my income went down was before I started to tithe. Through layoffs and terminations and all of that, I just kept tithing and God is faithful. I didn't hear that anywhere, I lived that shit.
3. The Bible is a book written by men and it's the white man's religion. Any book that you are going to read has been written by a man. There are many stories in the Bible that are more for affect than actual historical accounts. Religion is NOT about other people controlling you. Religion is about people having a mechanism to control themselves. Think about it, religion - all religions - are the only thing between you and having to kill some of these cats for trying to steal your shit. I mean, in jail is where most people find God or Allah or Buddah or the Pope or whatever the fuck.
I'm not going to judge any body. All I can do is tell you my story. When I first moves to where I live now 20 years ago, I was looking for a church. I visited a bunch of churches and I was always uncomfortable. Like I was always a guest or that the people or the preacher was fake somehow, especially in those mega churches. I grew up in church and went my whole life up to that point. One day I lost my job. This was the days before everybody had a computer in their house and I was going to use the library downtown. I made a wrong turn and found the church I'm going to today....this was 18 years ago. Those people have been huge in my life. They were there at the birth of both my children, they have helped us when we needed it and when my dad died, the pastor at the time drove 600 miles to go to the funeral and support me and my family. That's the true body of Christ and I wish that every body could experience that.
1. Somebody went to a bad church that is not preaching, teaching or uplifting people. After going through that, they then assign that activity of people to God. It's really just people fucking things up like everybody like people do with everything, but the idea of belonging to a church body is an overall good thing....if it's a good church.
2. Church is a racket and the preacher is living high and the people in the congregation is living on the street. I will guarantee you two things 1) If the preacher is paid, there are people in that church ballin'. 2) The preacher didn't make it so that people are living check to check and can't work their finances. It's funny how we can except everybody else being prosperous but the cat that says,"if you trust and believe, God will bless you." On the real, if a cat says that to me and don't have two nickels to rub together, he really is full of shit. Another thing about money: You need to understand that giving tithes is not about the church or the preacher. It's really about your faithfulness to God. I have been tithing for a good two decades and I have done nothing but increase. As a matter of fact the last time my income went down was before I started to tithe. Through layoffs and terminations and all of that, I just kept tithing and God is faithful. I didn't hear that anywhere, I lived that shit.
3. The Bible is a book written by men and it's the white man's religion. Any book that you are going to read has been written by a man. There are many stories in the Bible that are more for affect than actual historical accounts. Religion is NOT about other people controlling you. Religion is about people having a mechanism to control themselves. Think about it, religion - all religions - are the only thing between you and having to kill some of these cats for trying to steal your shit. I mean, in jail is where most people find God or Allah or Buddah or the Pope or whatever the fuck.
I'm not going to judge any body. All I can do is tell you my story. When I first moves to where I live now 20 years ago, I was looking for a church. I visited a bunch of churches and I was always uncomfortable. Like I was always a guest or that the people or the preacher was fake somehow, especially in those mega churches. I grew up in church and went my whole life up to that point. One day I lost my job. This was the days before everybody had a computer in their house and I was going to use the library downtown. I made a wrong turn and found the church I'm going to today....this was 18 years ago. Those people have been huge in my life. They were there at the birth of both my children, they have helped us when we needed it and when my dad died, the pastor at the time drove 600 miles to go to the funeral and support me and my family. That's the true body of Christ and I wish that every body could experience that.
damn as a teen they did this to you
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