Their television numbers were lower this week compared to last weeks.

Total viewership for the last 5 Dynamites

August 17th - 957000

August 10th - 972000

August 3rd - 938000

July 27th - 976000

July 20th - 910000

They're creeping up to the high nine thousands. Will Punk/Moxley put them over a million? We shall see.
 
Whoever booking Rampage can go away. The Trustbusters are trash. The Buddy in a squash match, Hook too!!?? Like what's the fucking point?? Tony needs to do better on that one. He's really slacking. U can't book an hour??
 
Is this Kayla Braxton?

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The ratings have cooled down because the rest of the product, outside of the Punk, MJF and Danielson segments, is mediocre and comes off as amateur hour. Punk and the rest of the guys who have actually drawn money in the business can't carry the whole show.

This is false. Dynamite was drawing over 1 million viewers before Punk and Danielson even got there. They were doing that with their core wrestlers such as Jericho, Omega, Moxley, Hangman, Young Bucks, Lucha Brothers, Cody, MJF, Darby, Sammy etc. Also, selling out all their ppvs. They drew based on their collective brand of wrestling.

Punk popped a rating based off of a nostalgia moment. Once the moment came and went people lost interest because his matches sucked. The only match that was even memorable was the dog collar match with MJF and that was mainly because of MJF. If you want to hold the attention of this fanbase you got to deliver in the ring.


Yes, I look at things through a WWE lens because they're the only wrestling company that has survived long-term and made money in this country. I'm a business owner, so I always look at things from a business perspective not just as a fan.

A lot of promotions have made money in America outside of WWE. AWA, NWA, WCCW and WCW to name a few. Vince just had deeper pockets. He would just go to each territory and buy up all the best talent.

The Japanese stuff is still a niche product that caters to niche audience in this country. Always has been, always will be.

Just as American wrestling is niche in Japan. Nobody gives a damn about WWE in Japan. The point is nobody is a holy gatekeeper when it comes to what makes a wrestler great. The philosophy is different depending on the promotion. I don't care how long your promotion has been around.


In terms of AEW, we'll see once their current TV deal comes up for renewal just how much the higher ups value them.
It's a whole new leadership group in Discovery/Warner than the original group that TK was pals with and got his current deal with.
A lot of this feels like WCW all over again with a merger, new execs in charge and now seemingly the talent running amuck with no real leadership at the top.

Newsflash the new ownership group likes AEW. So much so they've done at least three cross advertisement shows. You don't do that if the higher-ups don't have faith in your brand.
 
How old is that pic? She don't look like that anymore and I don't recall her ever being that thick.
Probably a good 5 years or so. Been awhile since she had black hair
This is false. Dynamite was drawing over 1 million viewers before Punk and Danielson even got there. They were doing that with their core wrestlers such as Jericho, Omega, Moxley, Hangman, Young Bucks, Lucha Brothers, Cody, MJF, Darby, Sammy etc. Also, selling out all their ppvs. They drew based on their collective brand of wrestling.

Punk popped a rating based off of a nostalgia moment. Once the moment came and went people lost interest because his matches sucked. The only match that was even memorable was the dog collar match with MJF and that was mainly because of MJF. If you want to hold the attention of this fanbase you got to deliver in the ring.
They were having shows with a million viewers. However they have never consistently drawn over a million. They'd do something big and pop the number and then the next week they'd be right back under that figure.
It is a fanbase that values workrate over promos. However, Punk and MJF are 2 of the bigger guys there and their promos are above each of their workrates as neither is some insane highspot guy. Wardlow is another guy that's over without the highspots. Jericho is still featured prominently and hasn't been as good in the ring as he used to be. Not sure if the audience is completely into the fake ass Faces of Foley shit that he's been doing recently with the Painmaker gimmick for this match and I'll be Lionheart for this one.


A lot of promotions have made money in America outside of WWE. AWA, NWA, WCCW and WCW to name a few. Vince just had deeper pockets. He would just go to each territory and buy up all the best talent.
More than that Vince was ruthless and organized. Threatening to withhold Wrestlemania to keep cable companies from broadcasting NWA on close circuit TV. Raiding rosters, his buying of the TV slot in Georgia, etc. It also sounds like he did better at having his office together and knowing how not to put himself on the brink of financial collapse which is what got Crockett out of the business along with the AWA and WCCW. It's not like he had deeper pockets than Ted Turner. But he ran his business much better. And as Scott Steiner brought up in one of his shoot promos in WCW all of the top guys in WWF at that point with the exception of The Rock had been in WCW/NWA first just like Hall and Nash.
 
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Total viewership for the last 5 Dynamites

August 17th - 957000

August 10th - 972000

August 3rd - 938000

July 27th - 976000

July 20th - 910000

They're creeping up to the high nine thousands. Will Punk/Moxley put them over a million? We shall see.

Meltzer said they're about to start negotiations on their new TV deal over the next few months so the next few shows will probably be more action packed. And they want all of their stars on hand for this to so that's why MJF will be coming soon if not next week.
 
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They were having shows with a million viewers. However they have never consistently drawn over a million. They'd do something big and pop the number and then the next week they'd be right back under that figure.

Because they kept getting preempted by TNT with NBA basketball. They would do five or six shows in a row where they'll be over a million and right as their momentum was starting to skyrocket here comes a preemption by TNT. This kept happening over and over again and is the reason why Dynamite moved to TBS.

It is a fanbase that values workrate over promos. However, Punk and MJF are 2 of the bigger guys there and their promos are above each of their workrates as neither is some insane highspot guy.

Don't be fooled into believing workrate means highspots. Workrate is about psychology, selling and move efficiency. Zack Sabre Jr doesn't do highspots yet he's one of the best workers in the business because he utilizes phenomenal psychology and is proficient in his move execution. MJF also utilizes great psychology in his matches which compliments his promo work. Punk on the other hand is sloppy. His move execution and transitions always look clumsy. Since he's been in AEW I can only think of one memorable match he's had and that was that dog collar match with MJF.

Wardlow is another guy that's over without the highspots.

MJF got Wardlow over with a long term story. Without it Wardlow is just another generic big man like Brian Cage.

Jericho is still featured prominently and hasn't been as good in the ring as he used to be. Not sure if the audience is completely into the fake ass Faces of Foley shit that he's been doing recently with the Painmaker gimmick for this match and I'll be Lionheart for this one.

I like Jericho because he's always experimenting. Not everything lands but at least he's trying to get the younger talent over
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Reddit is hit and miss with me too. Quite slow when links load in threads. Been that way for some time .
Yeah I know. I went to the Reddit mobile sub and someone posted a video of the the share feature being broken. The app has gone to shit over the last couple months.
 
Yeah I know. I went to the Reddit mobile sub and someone posted a video of the the share feature being broken. The app has gone to shit over the last couple months.


Interesting. Thanks for the info. I switched over to the Apollo app for Reddit earlier this year. It seems pretty good on ipod touch. Regular Reddit still seems to load ok for my laptop and pc, but was complete trash on the ipod.
 
Because they kept getting preempted by TNT with NBA basketball. They would do five or six shows in a row where they'll be over a million and right as their momentum was starting to skyrocket here comes a preemption by TNT. This kept happening over and over again and is the reason why Dynamite moved to TBS.

They're longest runs of over a million viewers were 4 weeks and 7 weeks and both occurred while the NBA wasn't going on and ended while the NBA season wasn't ongoing.



Don't be fooled into believing workrate means highspots. Workrate is about psychology, selling and move efficiency. Zack Sabre Jr doesn't do highspots yet he's one of the best workers in the business because he utilizes phenomenal psychology and is proficient in his move execution. MJF also utilizes great psychology in his matches which compliments his promo work. Punk on the other hand is sloppy. His move execution and transitions always look clumsy. Since he's been in AEW I can only think of one memorable match he's had and that was that dog collar match with MJF.

When it comes to AEW fans they are in to highspots which is why I said highspots. And that's how most AEW fans apply the term workrate not with a wrestler like Zack Sabre Jr or some other mat technician.

MJF got Wardlow over with a long term story. Without it Wardlow is just another generic big man like Brian Cage.

Except that story wouldn't have gotten Cage over. Wardlow has more personality and charisma than Cage which admittedly isn't saying much. But it was enough for the crowd to connect with him.

I like Jericho because he's always experimenting. Not everything lands but at least he's trying to get the younger talent over.
He is? Seems like he's more about trying to keep himself over and indulging all of the random shit that he wants to do. That long alliance and feud with MJF stalled MJF's progression more than it helped him. This feud with Eddie Kingston hasn't helped him or any of the random people like Ruby Soho who've been drug into it. His factions haven't helped the people in the faction besides Sammy Guevara. Not Santana and Ortiz not Hager, etc.
 
Lucha Underground was the best version of Penta. He would terrorize everyone. Not even ring announcer Melissa Santos was safe.


Lucha Underground was legit my favorite produced wrestling promotion of the last ten years. All the cinematic matches we saw these last couple of years owe LU a great amount of gratitude for how they produced their shows and presented their content.

I truly miss that show
 
Overall good Dynamite tonight highlighted by ...

Punk/Mox
Garcia/Danielson
Omega's return


Oh yes!!..AEW Dynamite from last week was good once again!!...It was soo good to see Kenny Omega is back!!..I know he was rusty and prob still hurt but he made it happen and the match was good!!... :yes:....That Danielson/Garcia match was nice as well...

Damn good show!!....It's all about AEW!!!
 
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