Comments comparing him Valveteen Dream. Another automatic fast forward on the DVR.

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U know dream may have been gay but that dude could wrestle. I also remember an episode of him on tuff enuff. Dude had legit passion for the biz as a lifelong fan. He called out another contestant for it to. Shame what happened to him. Loved that finisher ddt he had.
 
And that was based off of a 7 year nostalgia driven anticipation of him coming back. He came back and the nostalgia wore off. The ratings went back down. People realized that while Punk is great on the mic he's an average wrestler and when you're dealing with a workrate based promotion/fanbase just being hot on the mic isn't going to cut it.



I don't care about casuals. Casuals come and go.




This isn't the 80s/90s anymore. The whole mentality of one person moving the needle is dead. It's about being consistent in delivering a quality product that TV executives are happy with and judging from the collaborative theme shows such as "shark week" and Wednesday nights's "House Of The Dragon" show Discovery/Warner execs have a great amount of faith in the AEW brand.



And I've said a million times that this all depends on the promotion. What's valued in one promotion is not be valued in another. In WWE/NWA they value mic skills and gimmick over everything else. In AEW/NJPW/AAA/ROH/NOAH they value workrate then gimmick then mic skills. There's no such thing as the total package. Every wrestler that's ever been in the business has had a deficiency in one area. There's never been a wrestler that's been excellent across the board. It simply doesn't exist. What makes a great wrestler is you being great in one area and highlighting that strength. Great Muta/Keiji Muto never spoke a lick of English but if you ask anybody in the business and they'll tell you he's one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time.



You see things through the WWE lens of how a champion is is supposed to be presented. While that works for certain wrestlers not every wrestler should be put in the same box of presentation.
The ratings have cooled down because the rest of the product, outside of the Punk, MJF and Danielson segments, is mediocre and comes off as amateur hour. Punk and the rest of the guys who have actually drawn money in the business can't carry the whole show.

Yes, I look at things through a WWE lens because they're the only wrestling company that has survived long-term and made money in this country.
I'm a business owner, so I always look at things from a business perspective not just as a fan.
The Japanese stuff is still a niche product that caters to niche audience in this country. Always has been, always will be.

In terms of AEW, we'll see once their current TV deal comes up for renewal just how much the higher ups value them.
It's a whole new leadership group in Discovery/Warner than the original group that TK was pals with and got his current deal with.
A lot of this feels like WCW all over again with a merger, new execs in charge and now seemingly the talent running amuck with no real leadership at the top.
 
Didn't watch Dynamite, but reading about whatever CM Punk said, he's such tool. Real bitch made shit.

It makes me wonder if all the shit he spoke of from his time in WWE was really as horrible as it was, or if he was just a fucking arrogant asshole. There's always three sides to a story but he's always came off toxic as fuck.

I have a feeling he's going to eventually wear out his welcome in AEW and TK may have to make a decision between him and their other, younger, stars...

Especially at the amount he's being paid, if his isn't bringing in killer numbers, why bother with an asshole who could demoralize the lockeroom like that.
The ratings have cooled down because the rest of the product, outside of the Punk, MJF and Danielson segments, is mediocre and comes off as amateur hour. Punk and the rest of the guys who have actually drawn money in the business can't carry the whole show.

Yes, I look at things through a WWE lens because they're the only wrestling company that has survived long-term and made money in this country.
I'm a business owner, so I always look at things from a business perspective not just as a fan.
The Japanese stuff is still a niche product that caters to niche audience in this country. Always has been, always will be.

In terms of AEW, we'll see once their current TV deal comes up for renewal just how much the higher ups value them.
It's a whole new leadership group in Discovery/Warner than the original group that TK was pals with and got his current deal with.
A lot of this feels like WCW all over again with a merger, new execs in charge and now seemingly the talent running amuck with no real leadership at the top.

Ughh! I hate it when YOU motherfcukers is right!
 

If Colt Cabana and his booking is the catalyst then this whole thing is even dumber. Colt Cabana is a good wrestler but at no point in his AEW career has the company pushed or done much of anything with him. It seemed like maybe they were going to do something with him in the Dark Order and Brodie Lee kind of targeting him but after Lee's death that went nowhere and went back to being just another person in the group.
 
If Colt Cabana and his booking is the catalyst then this whole thing is even dumber. Colt Cabana is a good wrestler but at no point in his AEW career has the company pushed or done much of anything with him. It seemed like maybe they were going to do something with him in the Dark Order and Brodie Lee kind of targeting him but after Lee's death that went nowhere and went back to being just another person in the group.
Punk is just being a petty asshole since he doesn’t like Cabana anymore. He’s on some bitch shit like “he can’t be here if I’m here”….people went to bat for Cabana and that’s why TK kept him, but Punk wanted him gone, punk is a real bitch ass.
 
Punk is just being a petty asshole since he doesn’t like Cabana anymore. He’s on some bitch shit like “he can’t be here if I’m here”….people went to bat for Cabana and that’s why TK kept him, but Punk wanted him gone, punk is a real bitch ass.
They weren't doing shit with Cabana when Punk wasn't there so his presence doesn't matter in AEW. Could mean something to ROH if it's ever a separate thing but bringing Cabana in in the first place to join the Dark Order and just be just another member of just another faction was worthless. He's basically Horace Hogan in the NWO the way that they've used him and the Dark Order isn't on that level.
Cabana was on Dynamite 4 times last year. Hard to justify keeping a guy who's being used so little even if he's a good wrestler. And the last couple of times that he was on Dynamite so was Punk.
 
They weren't doing shit with Cabana when Punk wasn't there so his presence doesn't matter in AEW. Could mean something to ROH if it's ever a separate thing but bringing Cabana in in the first place to join the Dark Order and just be just another member of just another faction was worthless. He's basically Horace Hogan in the NWO the way that they've used him and the Dark Order isn't on that level.
Cabana was on Dynamite 4 times last year. Hard to justify keeping a guy who's being used so little even if he's a good wrestler. And the last couple of times that he was on Dynamite so was Punk.
I'm not defending them keeping Cabana on the AEW/ROH roster... just saying Punk is bitchmade over the rumored issues stemming from Cabana being on their roster.
 
Their television numbers were lower this week compared to last weeks.

Total viewership for the last 5 Dynamites

August 17th - 957000

August 10th - 972000

August 3rd - 938000

July 27th - 976000

July 20th - 910000

They're creeping up to the high nine thousands. Will Punk/Moxley put them over a million? We shall see.
 
Whoever booking Rampage can go away. The Trustbusters are trash. The Buddy in a squash match, Hook too!!?? Like what's the fucking point?? Tony needs to do better on that one. He's really slacking. U can't book an hour??
 
Is this Kayla Braxton?

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The ratings have cooled down because the rest of the product, outside of the Punk, MJF and Danielson segments, is mediocre and comes off as amateur hour. Punk and the rest of the guys who have actually drawn money in the business can't carry the whole show.

This is false. Dynamite was drawing over 1 million viewers before Punk and Danielson even got there. They were doing that with their core wrestlers such as Jericho, Omega, Moxley, Hangman, Young Bucks, Lucha Brothers, Cody, MJF, Darby, Sammy etc. Also, selling out all their ppvs. They drew based on their collective brand of wrestling.

Punk popped a rating based off of a nostalgia moment. Once the moment came and went people lost interest because his matches sucked. The only match that was even memorable was the dog collar match with MJF and that was mainly because of MJF. If you want to hold the attention of this fanbase you got to deliver in the ring.


Yes, I look at things through a WWE lens because they're the only wrestling company that has survived long-term and made money in this country. I'm a business owner, so I always look at things from a business perspective not just as a fan.

A lot of promotions have made money in America outside of WWE. AWA, NWA, WCCW and WCW to name a few. Vince just had deeper pockets. He would just go to each territory and buy up all the best talent.

The Japanese stuff is still a niche product that caters to niche audience in this country. Always has been, always will be.

Just as American wrestling is niche in Japan. Nobody gives a damn about WWE in Japan. The point is nobody is a holy gatekeeper when it comes to what makes a wrestler great. The philosophy is different depending on the promotion. I don't care how long your promotion has been around.


In terms of AEW, we'll see once their current TV deal comes up for renewal just how much the higher ups value them.
It's a whole new leadership group in Discovery/Warner than the original group that TK was pals with and got his current deal with.
A lot of this feels like WCW all over again with a merger, new execs in charge and now seemingly the talent running amuck with no real leadership at the top.

Newsflash the new ownership group likes AEW. So much so they've done at least three cross advertisement shows. You don't do that if the higher-ups don't have faith in your brand.
 
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