it wasnt enough to kill the old NXT
Vince & Company want to burn its memory to the ground...outside of Braun, Nia Jax, Lana. Rusev & Bray almost every name on the list was on NXT or peaked while on NXT

oh well happy to have the Mannings on Monday nights and my Knicks (Bing! Bong!)

FUCK WWE
I could start a wrestling company by adding the likes of Bray, Braun, Eric Rowan, Keith Lee and Karrion Kross.

Add these 5 to AEW plus Mia Yim and Nia Jax to the women's division. It might be a wrap for WWE. I'm surprised Askua survived. Be honest Nia Jax vs NYLA Rose. Keith, Lee vs Powerhouse Hobbs, Mia Yim vs Thunder Rosa, Ember Moon vs Britt Baker. The WWE wrestlers are alot more polished then AEW wrestlers. It's just that AEW has a more exciting brand. Bray Wyatt vs Braun would be a PPV main event. Kross vs Omega. Vince really fumbled the bag on this one and Tony has yet to pick up the ball for fear of upsetting the originals and burying the likes of Miro, Darby Moxley, they will all become second tier or mid card talent
 
I could start a wrestling company by adding the likes of Bray, Braun, Eric Rowan, Keith Lee and Karrion Kross.

Add these 5 to AEW plus Mia Yim and Nia Jax to the women's division. It might be a wrap for WWE. I'm surprised Askua survived. Be honest Nia Jax vs NYLA Rose. Keith, Lee vs Powerhouse Hobbs, Mia Yim vs Thunder Rosa, Ember Moon vs Britt Baker. The WWE wrestlers are alot more polished then AEW wrestlers. It's just that AEW has a more exciting brand. Bray Wyatt vs Braun would be a PPV main event. Kross vs Omega. Vince really fumbled the bag on this one and Tony has yet to pick up the ball for fear of upsetting the originals and burying the likes of Miro, Darby Moxley, they will all become second tier or mid card talent
Let’s be honest though….WWe can develop new talent. They let them go because they could. We not talking about getting rid of The Rock or Stone Cold in their prime. This is like Marvel letting Terrence Howard go. They can just go and get a Don Cheadle.
 
I could start a wrestling company by adding the likes of Bray, Braun, Eric Rowan, Keith Lee and Karrion Kross.

Add these 5 to AEW plus Mia Yim and Nia Jax to the women's division. It might be a wrap for WWE. I'm surprised Askua survived. Be honest Nia Jax vs NYLA Rose. Keith, Lee vs Powerhouse Hobbs, Mia Yim vs Thunder Rosa, Ember Moon vs Britt Baker. The WWE wrestlers are alot more polished then AEW wrestlers. It's just that AEW has a more exciting brand. Bray Wyatt vs Braun would be a PPV main event. Kross vs Omega. Vince really fumbled the bag on this one and Tony has yet to pick up the ball for fear of upsetting the originals and burying the likes of Miro, Darby Moxley, they will all become second tier or mid card talent
Let’s be honest though….WWe can develop new talent. They let them go because they could. We not talking about getting rid of The Rock or Stone Cold in their prime. This is like Marvel letting Terrence Howard go. They can just go and get a Don Cheadle.
 
Damn, some bloodletting by WWE today. Looks like they're trimming the fat before the end of the year.
Not surprising to see Keith Lee get let go. I think we all saw it heading in this direction at some point.
Shocked to see Nia Jax get let go considering her family connections, but absolutely deserving because she's out of shape, sloppy, dangerous, and can't work.
I never really saw too much in Ember Moon. She's just kind of there, nothing special.
Of all the releases, if I'm Tony Khan, I've got my eyes on Karion Kross. He can be a star if he's used correctly.
I don't know what the fuck WWE was thinking with the gimmick they gave him on the main roster. SMH
Yea this is mad crazy. Ember moon had a great run in NXT so I’m confused about her. The matches with asuka were great. Karrion was just hitting his stride. But at this point nothing should surprise us. If they let bray go (who was the top star in wwe IMO I’m sorry) everyone else is a target too. Thank goodness we got other options than wwe
 
WWE has not created any stars in a long time.

Last one was John Cena. Roman Reigns may he the last one.

Looking at all the cuts, one thing that they all have in common is, none of those let go were ever any real "needle movers"....

I mean, let's keep it real, Keith Lee was good in the ring but had a bad character. You can't blame that solely on WWE. He's partially to blame as well.

Karrian/Killer Kross, good character that was crapped on when moved to the main roster, however, again, he people didn't care to see him. Plus, I suspect he's one of the ones who got cut for not being vaccinated.

As wrestling fans, we hate to see all these talents let go, but none of the guys released were selling tickets nor causing people to tune in.
 
WWE has not created any stars in a long time.

Last one was John Cena. Roman Reigns may he the last one.

Looking at all the cuts, one thing that they all have in common is, none of those let go were ever any real "needle movers"....

I mean, let's keep it real, Keith Lee was good in the ring but had a bad character. You can't blame that solely on WWE. He's partially to blame as well.

Karrian/Killer Kross, good character that was crapped on when moved to the main roster, however, again, he people didn't care to see him. Plus, I suspect he's one of the ones who got cut for not being vaccinated.

As wrestling fans, we hate to see all these talents let go, but none of the guys released were selling tickets nor causing people to tune in.
These are minor players in the minor league but sending them to the competition will elevate their talent pool and recognition to the casual wrestling fan.

Ember Moon/Keith Lee fits the AEW smart mark audience.

The others will not technically the best wrestlers while in the WWE will look great in the other promotion
 
WWE has not created any stars in a long time.

Last one was John Cena. Roman Reigns may he the last one.

Looking at all the cuts, one thing that they all have in common is, none of those let go were ever any real "needle movers"....

I mean, let's keep it real, Keith Lee was good in the ring but had a bad character. You can't blame that solely on WWE. He's partially to blame as well.

Karrian/Killer Kross, good character that was crapped on when moved to the main roster, however, again, he people didn't care to see him. Plus, I suspect he's one of the ones who got cut for not being vaccinated.

As wrestling fans, we hate to see all these talents let go, but none of the guys released were selling tickets nor causing people to tune in.

Yeah it’s a business they don’t give a damn about the people they cut. I think Bray was the one guy they invested a lot in and cut but shit to show how disposable they thought he was they just gave his gimmick to Alexis.
 
These are minor players in the minor league but sending them to the competition will elevate their talent pool and recognition to the casual wrestling fan.

Ember Moon/Keith Lee fits the AEW smart mark audience.

The others will not technically the best wrestlers while in the WWE will look great in the other promotion
I don’t think this sways anything in regards to competition. AEW already has plenty of talent that are of their caliber….
 
These are minor players in the minor league but sending them to the competition will elevate their talent pool and recognition to the casual wrestling fan.

Ember Moon/Keith Lee fits the AEW smart mark audience.

The others will not technically the best wrestlers while in the WWE will look great in the other promotion

it seems like WWE is going all in (no pun intended) in all or nothing main eventers. If you arent Roman, Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, Bianca, the New Day, Brock and maybe a few others you are expendable. To me its a short sighted approach and when you have 5 hours of programming each week its mind numbing seeing the same promos & matches week after week.

its fuck the mid-card
its fuck story developement
its fuck NXT & call-ups (alot NXT call-ups were DOA, but they now cutting some of em before they even debut...Tony Storm, Tegan Nox and few others might already be on the clock)

and for me its FUCK WWE
 
That's exactly why I hate that whole argument because basically it's damned if they do, damned if they don't.

People want a black world champion, but then the second they make a black man the world champion, them same people that was crying gone be like "oh they only gave it to him because he's black."

How do I know? Because they already do that with Scorpio and Nyla. If you mention that out of 17 championship reigns from four belts in two years, AEW has had two black champions, they marginalize them like "well, Scorpio was just a tag team champ and his partner was white, and they only gave it to Nyla because he a transformer and he's Native American, too."

Then when you mention how they don't have main event level black male talent because most of the best black wrestlers in the world are already signed somewhere, and Shawn Dean and Shotty Lee have shown no personality just like most of Cody's people, and Scorpio is boring, and Ricky has a broken neck, and Hobbs done had his head rocked in at least 2 of his last 3 TV matches, but somehow he's should be working matches with Kenny Omega and Danielson taking hella V-triggers, knee strikes, dragon-ranas and snap germans and shit. And the rest of the brothers are tag team wrestlers - they don't wanna hear none of that.

And then when we mention black wrestlers in the indy scene they could sign and immediately push to the main event scene, and could headline a marquee, put on a great match, and can cut a good promo, and is over with the fans already - then it's "well they still probably won't do it because he black..."

Like it has to start from somewhere. They either gotta sign a main eventer or develop one, either way, it's gone take some time. It'll happen at some point.

I think people are just impatient because they've been jaded by WWE.

Kofimania was supposed to be Ali-mania. MVP had to produce his ass off to get Bobby taken seriously because the best idea Vince and 'em could come up with for Bobby after two years was a PG-version of a Blacked.com storyline. And Big E is champ now because Vince is so inept at getting white boys over (especially when they're real life pieces of shit) that he had no fuckin' choice but to put it on the most over nigga on the roster who got there by being himself. One of the few people allowed to be themselves and show that he has the charisma to be a celebrity and a movie star, just like how The Rock had to.
I'm just wanting a promotion to crown a black champion because they truly want to and believe that he's the best and not on some PR shit or because they ran out of white guys to give it to. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part. Even going back to WCW, that was the case.
They gave the belt to Ron Simmons as a PR move and then Booker T right before they went out of business.
 
WWE has not created any stars in a long time.

Last one was John Cena. Roman Reigns may he the last one.

Looking at all the cuts, one thing that they all have in common is, none of those let go were ever any real "needle movers"....

I mean, let's keep it real, Keith Lee was good in the ring but had a bad character. You can't blame that solely on WWE. He's partially to blame as well.

Karrian/Killer Kross, good character that was crapped on when moved to the main roster, however, again, he people didn't care to see him. Plus, I suspect he's one of the ones who got cut for not being vaccinated.

As wrestling fans, we hate to see all these talents let go, but none of the guys released were selling tickets nor causing people to tune in.

They aren't needle movers due to what is given to them. BEARCAT?!?! Talking about making lemonade out of shyt! John Cena was gonna be a star with that Thugenomics bullshyt. Roman had The Shield, but then how long until he had a character that pushed the needle?
 
I hope they both decide to move on. There's no guarantee that if they resigned that WWE won't fire them 5 to 10 months from now.

 
I'm just wanting a promotion to crown a black champion because they truly want to and believe that he's the best and not on some PR shit or because they ran out of white guys to give it to. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part. Even going back to WCW, that was the case.
They gave the belt to Ron Simmons as a PR move and then Booker T right before they went out of business.
Yeah and I know WWE has its flaws and I know their history but even putting the title on Big E and Lashley didn't feel like it was a PR stunt. Didn't feel like pandering. That's just my opinion though I could be completely. You can tell when its pandering and when its not. I'm personally not hoping for AEW or anyone else to pander to the general public about a person of color holding their belt. But damn am I suppose to believe that all the black wrestlers on aEW are inferior to the white ones that no one is even anywhere near a title shot?
 
it seems like WWE is going all in (no pun intended) in all or nothing main eventers. If you arent Roman, Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, Bianca, the New Day, Brock and maybe a few others you are expendable. To me its a short sighted approach and when you have 5 hours of programming each week its mind numbing seeing the same promos & matches week after week.

its fuck the mid-card
its fuck story developement
its fuck NXT & call-ups (alot NXT call-ups were DOA, but they now cutting some of em before they even debut...Tony Storm, Tegan Nox and few others might already be on the clock)

and for me its FUCK WWE

The thing about WWE is are they making money?

WWE reported revenue of $255.8 million, which is an increase of 15% or $34.2 million. They credited the increase with higher ticket sales and venue merchandise sales from the return to touring.

They are making bank doing it the way they've chosen to do it. So to Vince his product isn't suffering. AS a matter of fact since the 15% increase he probably feels like he's doing something RIGHT. Cut deadweight you have nothing for and shit if they get their buzz up go and sign they ass again lol. As fans we sitting here hating this shit but someone is eating it up. They are eating up a demo.
 
Let’s be honest though….WWe can develop new talent. They let them go because they could. We not talking about getting rid of The Rock or Stone Cold in their prime. This is like Marvel letting Terrence Howard go. They can just go and get a Don Cheadle.
That's a nice thought. Thing is, in the dying days of WCW during one of his rants Scott Steiner mentioned how everybody who at the top of the card in the WWF except for The Rock had been in WCW and let go. And if booked right that could damn near be the case with AEW. I don't see it happening because the EVPs are all doing their b.s. and there's too much cringeworthy material.
To think that there is still a place for Madcap Moss, Dana Brooke and Jaxson Ryker but not Keith Lee, Frankie Monet, Mia Yim or Karrion Kross.
 
The thing about WWE is are they making money?

WWE reported revenue of $255.8 million, which is an increase of 15% or $34.2 million. They credited the increase with higher ticket sales and venue merchandise sales from the return to touring.

They are making bank doing it the way they've chosen to do it. So to Vince his product isn't suffering. AS a matter of fact since the 15% increase he probably feels like he's doing something RIGHT. Cut deadweight you have nothing for and shit if they get their buzz up go and sign they ass again lol. As fans we sitting here hating this shit but someone is eating it up. They are eating up a demo.


thats cool for Vince and WWE shareholders
but as a fan I dont care about how profitable they are. I care(d) about the wrestling, storytelling and character development.

if Vince doesnt sell eventually the bill will come due cause the company is creatively bankrupt and they cant build new talent let alone create stars
 
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