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If I was a company. I would use Flair as a color commentator and interviewer type of capacity. As far as being a storyline type of guy at his advanced age or even worse as a booker hellz to the noooooo!!!!!! As a color commentator and interviewer he stays in the business, it keeps him neutral from the boys and politics, and he will still have his fans. I would tell Flair to take it or leave it.
 
Flair has been on a scary path for years. While he was still in WWE, his financial problems were well-known, his long history of flashing people while drunk became very public via a lawsuit about the infamous "flight from hell," and the financial problems worsened after Beth, his second wife, divorced him after over two decades of marriage. She made some very serious allegations, the most public one being that he would beat her and then bust open his freshly scarred forehead so he would be bleeding heavily if he needed to make it look like he was defending himself. She received a very favorable settlement, worsening his financial problems. He remarried as soon as possible...twice, and there was a violent incident with his current wife last year that led to her being arrested.

He started a financing company that never got off the ground and was largely ridiculed. He lost more money in the process. He was attacked by his daughter's boyfriend a couple years ago in a strange incident that left him with a terrible black eye for weeks, which was immortalized in the shoot interview DVD he did with Highspots. During the interview, he proudly talked about getting recovering drug addict Shawn Michaels drunk, repeatedly trying and "failing" to get recovering alcoholic and drug addict William Regal to start drinking again, and turning John Cena (who didn't drink because he wanted to avoid any potential intoxicants so he didn't go down a bad path) into a big drinker.

Speaking of which, he's been sued by Highspots and Ring of Honor over various financial transactions, allegedly never paying back a loan to the former and deposits for appearances that weren't made for the latter. He held up convention promoter Greg Price for more money in a scene where he threw a public tantrum. After those financial disputes, his reputation was destroyed and independent appearances dried up, so he went to TNA.
 
THE DRIZZY said:
If I was a company. I would use Flair as a color commentator and interviewer type of capacity. As far as being a storyline type of guy at his advanced age or even worse as a booker hellz to the noooooo!!!!!! As a color commentator and interviewer he stays in the business, it keeps him neutral from the boys and politics, and he will still have his fans. I would tell Flair to take it or leave it.
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Doing that, you aren't getting your money's worth out of Flair. TNA has the right idea but poor execution. When he comes out with Rob Terry and cuts promos, that's perfect. AJ and Beer Money don't need him to talk for them but a guy like Terry does.
Don't hate on Flair as booker. As head of the WCW booking committee, he did all the stuff we say WWE and TNA should do: push young guys.
I know what Mick Foley said but he didn't get a push in WWF until damn near everybody was gone.

kanedagame said:
Flair has been on a scary path for years. While he was still in WWE, his financial problems were well-known, his long history of flashing people while drunk became very public via a lawsuit about the infamous "flight from hell," and the financial problems worsened after Beth, his second wife, divorced him after over two decades of marriage. She made some very serious allegations, the most public one being that he would beat her and then bust open his freshly scarred forehead so he would be bleeding heavily if he needed to make it look like he was defending himself. She received a very favorable settlement, worsening his financial problems. He remarried as soon as possible...twice, and there was a violent incident with his current wife last year that led to her being arrested.

He started a financing company that never got off the ground and was largely ridiculed. He lost more money in the process. He was attacked by his daughter's boyfriend a couple years ago in a strange incident that left him with a terrible black eye for weeks, which was immortalized in the shoot interview DVD he did with Highspots. During the interview, he proudly talked about getting recovering drug addict Shawn Michaels drunk, repeatedly trying and "failing" to get recovering alcoholic and drug addict William Regal to start drinking again, and turning John Cena (who didn't drink because he wanted to avoid any potential intoxicants so he didn't go down a bad path) into a big drinker.

Speaking of which, he's been sued by Highspots and Ring of Honor over various financial transactions, allegedly never paying back a loan to the former and deposits for appearances that weren't made for the latter. He held up convention promoter Greg Price for more money in a scene where he threw a public tantrum. After those financial disputes, his reputation was destroyed and independent appearances dried up, so he went to TNA.
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Pretty much. Not to mention some finance company he borrowed money from and put the NWA title up for collateral. That company and ROH had to go to court to figure out who Flair owed the belt to.
 
MR.BIG said:
If Flair is so bad why do promotions continue to deal with him ?
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Because he's Ric 'fucking' Flair.

Even with a backstage problems, he's still a draw and if used properly (which TNA has failed to do) he can
help build up your younger talent by being the mouth piece.
​
 
~RATED RKO MAY BE RETURNING AFTER RUMBLE~



-- WWE creative has discussed reuniting Randy Orton and Edge as a tandem after the Royal Rumble. The duo is scheduled for a dark match at this Tuesday's SmackDown taping in Cincinnati, Ohio against WWE Champion The Miz and Dolph Ziggler.
Orton and Edge formed an alliance known as Rated-RKO in October 2006 to challenge the team of Triple H and Shawn Michaels. The group captured the World Tag Team Championship in November 2006 and officially disbanded in May 2007, after Edge moved to the SmackDown brand.
 
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
 
Born said:
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
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You are the mutha fuckin man :dance:
 
Born said:
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
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DAMN!!! Good lookin out, looks like I'll be re-upping my fileserve account :dance:

Now I wish I didn't spend 35 dollars on that Best of WWF Raw (the original one, not the re-hashed one they dropped a couple years ago)
 
Simply Sickenin' said:

Because he's Ric 'fucking' Flair.

Even with a backstage problems, he's still a draw and if used properly (which TNA has failed to do) he can
help build up your younger talent by being the mouth piece.
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Right on the nose. It's been a long time since anyone used Ric Flair correctly with the exception of the buildup to his retirement match with Michaels.

Born said:
~RATED RKO MAY BE RETURNING AFTER RUMBLE~



-- WWE creative has discussed reuniting Randy Orton and Edge as a tandem after the Royal Rumble. The duo is scheduled for a dark match at this Tuesday's SmackDown taping in Cincinnati, Ohio against WWE Champion The Miz and Dolph Ziggler.
Orton and Edge formed an alliance known as Rated-RKO in October 2006 to challenge the team of Triple H and Shawn Michaels. The group captured the World Tag Team Championship in November 2006 and officially disbanded in May 2007, after Edge moved to the SmackDown brand.
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Interesting but both were better as heels.
 
kanedagame said:
Flair has been on a scary path for years. While he was still in WWE, his financial problems were well-known, his long history of flashing people while drunk became very public via a lawsuit about the infamous "flight from hell," and the financial problems worsened after Beth, his second wife, divorced him after over two decades of marriage. She made some very serious allegations, the most public one being that he would beat her and then bust open his freshly scarred forehead so he would be bleeding heavily if he needed to make it look like he was defending himself. She received a very favorable settlement, worsening his financial problems. He remarried as soon as possible...twice, and there was a violent incident with his current wife last year that led to her being arrested.

He started a financing company that never got off the ground and was largely ridiculed. He lost more money in the process. He was attacked by his daughter's boyfriend a couple years ago in a strange incident that left him with a terrible black eye for weeks, which was immortalized in the shoot interview DVD he did with Highspots. During the interview, he proudly talked about getting recovering drug addict Shawn Michaels drunk, repeatedly trying and "failing" to get recovering alcoholic and drug addict William Regal to start drinking again, and turning John Cena (who didn't drink because he wanted to avoid any potential intoxicants so he didn't go down a bad path) into a big drinker.

Speaking of which, he's been sued by Highspots and Ring of Honor over various financial transactions, allegedly never paying back a loan to the former and deposits for appearances that weren't made for the latter. He held up convention promoter Greg Price for more money in a scene where he threw a public tantrum. After those financial disputes, his reputation was destroyed and independent appearances dried up, so he went to TNA.
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Damn i didn't know any of this:smh::smh: Flair is basically heading towards the randy "the ram" robinson type status:lol: But seriously the dirtbag tendencies aren't that big a shock, especially if people remember steiner's rant on wcw about a decade ago.

 
kanedagame said:
I guess RKO is DX version 4.0
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:lol:

chrislee said:
Nope! Like I said before, instead of forming new tag teams, WWE will just throw two single wrestlers together for a title run for 4 or 5 months and then disband them.
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Hell, when they have a real tag team, they do the very same thing but worse because they job the two guys out (Priceless/Legacy, Cryme Tyme, Hart Dynasty).

dirtyd said:
Damn i didn't know any of this:smh::smh: Flair is basically heading towards the randy "the ram" robinson type status:lol: But seriously the dirtbag tendencies aren't that big a shock, especially if people remember steiner's rant on wcw about a decade ago.
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That's how you knew WCW was dying. Had Steiner done that on anyone else's tv, he would have been out of a job that same night. Dude made for good tv but not in a good way.
How does he look talking about Flair stealing Buddy Rogers' gimmick (which Buddy stole) when he's looking like Superstar Graham Jr? They even called him "Superstar" Scott Steiner when he first debuted his new look.
And it wasn't Flair that got Austin fired, it was Bischoff and Hogan, not exactly Flair friends at the time.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
:lol:



Hell, when they have a real tag team, they do the very same thing but worse because they job the two guys out (Priceless/Legacy, Cryme Tyme, Hart Dynasty).



That's how you knew WCW was dying. Had Steiner done that on anyone else's tv, he would have been out of a job that same night. Dude made for good tv but not in a good way.
How does he look talking about Flair stealing Buddy Rogers' gimmick (which Buddy stole) when he's looking like Superstar Graham Jr? They even called him "Superstar" Scott Steiner when he first debuted his new look.
And it wasn't Flair that got Austin fired, it was Bischoff and Hogan, not exactly Flair friends at the time.
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I respect steiner because he keeps it 100%, hogan was the first to rip off billy graham and im sure steiner is lashing out about some stuff we don't know about.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
:lol:



Hell, when they have a real tag team, they do the very same thing but worse because they job the two guys out (Priceless/Legacy, Cryme Tyme, Hart Dynasty).



That's how you knew WCW was dying. Had Steiner done that on anyone else's tv, he would have been out of a job that same night. Dude made for good tv but not in a good way.
How does he look talking about Flair stealing Buddy Rogers' gimmick (which Buddy stole) when he's looking like Superstar Graham Jr? They even called him "Superstar" Scott Steiner when he first debuted his new look.
And it wasn't Flair that got Austin fired, it was Bischoff and Hogan, not exactly Flair friends at the time.
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Remember it was "white lightning" Scott Steiner but that was nixed for obvious reasons lol
 
dirtyd said:
I respect steiner because he keeps it 100%, hogan was the first to rip off billy graham and im sure steiner is lashing out about some stuff we don't know about.
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I like Scotty, always have but he can be just as bullshitty as everyone else. Dude still won't cop to using PEDs, like it's some kind of secret. And he only calls out his so-called "enemies" while the dudes he's buddied up with do the exact same shit.

SABU said:
Remember it was "white lightning" Scott Steiner but that was nixed for obvious reasons lol
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:lol:I forgot about that. That lasted a hot minute. They went through a lot to get to "Big Poppa Pump".
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I like Scotty, always have but he can be just as bullshitty as everyone else. Dude still won't cop to using PEDs, like it's some kind of secret. And he only calls out his so-called "enemies" while the dudes he's buddied up with do the exact same shit.



:lol:I forgot about that. That lasted a hot minute. They went through a lot to get to "Big Poppa Pump".
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When he busted out with "i got the hook up holler if you hear me". I was thinking damn how much BET he's been watching lol
 
Upgrade Dave said:
That was one thing that drove me crazy about Crockett. If you didn't see all the shows, you could miss some really good stuff and they didn't replay stuff like WWE does with the "Raw Rebounds" on every show.

Yeah, Arn and Tully just seemed to fit in the NWA and that's it. They looked mad out of place in WWF. Just like we're worried about what WWE will do to Amazing Kong, it would have bothered me to think of what they might do with Arn and Tully. You see how the Sheepherders changed. I don't think I ever got over that.
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yeah the Sheepherders were hard as fuck in the NWA, Vince turned them into a damn comedic duo :smh:
 
SABU said:
When he busted out with "i got the hook up holler if you hear me". I was thinking damn how much BET he's been watching lol
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Did he ever pay Master P for that?:D
Steiner would have been better suited in WWF during the Attitude era. He was the perfect character for it. With WCW being so tightly run by Turner Standards and Practices, he could never go as far as he wanted.


bigjayler said:
yeah the Sheepherders were hard as fuck in the NWA, Vince turned them into a damn comedic duo :smh:
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And I still haven't gotten over it:angry:.

But they made a ton more money as buffoons than hard asses, so there it is.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Did he ever pay Master P for that?:D
Steiner would have been better suited in WWF during the Attitude era. He was the perfect character for it. With WCW being so tightly run by Turner Standards and Practices, he could never go as far as he wanted.




And I still haven't gotten over it:angry:.

But they made a ton more money as buffoons than hard asses, so there it is.
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You are right that would've been the perfect time for Steiner to be in WWF. Cause even whey they tagged in the mid 90's the Steiner bros didn't fit in the WWF.

But the one story that intrigued me was Nikita jumping to the WWF in 86 with Ivan and challenging Hogan for the Belt. And also tying Bruno in the angle as well.
 
Born said:
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
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HOLY SHIT :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
SABU said:
You are right that would've been the perfect time for Steiner to be in WWF. Cause even whey they tagged in the mid 90's the Steiner bros didn't fit in the WWF.
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No they didn't. Whenever someone goes on and on about the "genius" and starmaking ability, I think about the Steiners run in the WWF.


But the one story that intrigued me was Nikita jumping to the WWF in 86 with Ivan and challenging Hogan for the Belt. And also tying Bruno in the angle as well.
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That would have been WrestleMania big. The match probably would have sucked but the event would have been huge. But only if the WWF protected Nikita as well as Crockett and Dusty did. Dude never wrestled a competitive match on tv for years and only wrestled in tag teams with veterans like Ivan and Khrusher, Dusty and the Rock N Roll Express.
Say what you will about Flair now but he worked magic with Nikita in 85.
 
CLUE TO RETURN OF A FORMER WORLD CHAMP?
by Mike Johnson @ 11:41 AM on 1/28/2011

I noted a few weeks back that we had heard Booker T was in discussions with World Wrestling Entertainment regarding a potential return there.
As it turns out, Booker canceled his scheduled appearances this weekend at the New Orleans Wizard Comic Convention. Could that be a clue he's heading to the Rumble? I don't know that for sure but it should be noted at least as a possibility.



Interesting.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I like Scotty, always have but he can be just as bullshitty as everyone else. Dude still won't cop to using PEDs, like it's some kind of secret. And he only calls out his so-called "enemies" while the dudes he's buddied up with do the exact same shit.
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Yeah i mean you can get ripped but his is freakish and looked ridiculous from day 1:smh:
 
Upgrade Dave said:
No they didn't. Whenever someone goes on and on about the "genius" and starmaking ability, I think about the Steiners run in the WWF.




That would have been WrestleMania big. The match probably would have sucked but the event would have been huge. But only if the WWF protected Nikita as well as Crockett and Dusty did. Dude never wrestled a competitive match on tv for years and only wrestled in tag teams with veterans like Ivan and Khrusher, Dusty and the Rock N Roll Express.
Say what you will about Flair now but he worked magic with Nikita in 85.
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From 83-89 Flair was woking his magic. If Pat Patterson worked the match with the help of Ivan it would've been a good one
 
Born said:
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
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:cool:
 
Born said:
~Once Again I Come Bearing Gifts For The Crew~
~Every single WWF/WWE Raw Episode from 1993-2010 in Single Links. All are full Episodes too.~


1993- http://www.fileserve.com/list/hkWJyvg
1994- http://www.fileserve.com/list/jsUH6ka
1995- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pNA4CFN
1996- http://www.fileserve.com/list/WMWRweE
1997- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Kbxcajd
1998- http://www.fileserve.com/list/ZRrsRt5
1999- http://www.fileserve.com/list/pgmbT4f
2000- http://www.fileserve.com/list/GQ3wUth

2001- http://www.fileserve.com/list/XzEpfgh
2002- http://www.fileserve.com/list/Q7NZqpX
2003- http://www.fileserve.com/list/DHjSud4
2004- http://www.fileserve.com/list/aEzpqdG
2005- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P2dFAKw
2006- http://www.fileserve.com/list/HgHd2J9
2007- http://www.fileserve.com/list/P5rZVyb
2008- http://www.fileserve.com/list/VfsXXTc
2009- http://www.fileserve.com/list/vqg37QD
2010- http://www.fileserve.com/list/S5VUxRk

ENJOY
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carlito.jpg
 
Spoiler alert for the Rumble (who's in, not the winner)!!!



























Booker T and Kevin Nash are both booked for the Royal Rumble as surprises, PWInsider.com has confirmed
So TNA fans can rejoice!
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Spoiler alert for the Rumble (who's in, not the winner)!!!


























Booker T and Kevin Nash are both booked for the Royal Rumble as surprises, PWInsider.com has confirmed
So TNA fans can rejoice!
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imagine the former as 30..his theme music plays"CAN U DIG IT,SUCKA??" michael cole:"you gotta be kidding me!!!" :lol:
 

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