***The Official Laker's vs Rocket's Thread

[cranrab]

Roccet's Thread

i hope they watched.

NOT counting the points his own defensive assignment scored against him, tobe's poor play lead DIRECTLY to 15 houston rocket points, and 3 defensive fouls for fakers teammates.

again, that's NOT counting the points his own defensive assignment scored against him.

how much did the fakers lose by again?

but, yeah, it was mostly derek fisher's fault.

right. let the scapegoating continue. let's see, already blamed coach jackson, derek fisher, how 'bout the ball boys in houston?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba had 30 points.

his team did nothing.

pau gasol played like ass. (coming from Rob parker)

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba had 30 points.

his team did nothing.

pau gasol played like ass. (coming from Rob parker)

garden weasel had 30 points. subtract the 15 points that houston scored off his mistakes, that brings it down to 15.

the garden weasel also put 3 personal fouls on his own teammates, 1 of which resulted in that teammate sitting.

how many did the garden weasel give up on D?

so then who played like ass again?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba was 1-7 from 3FG (30 points)

pau gasol was 6-14 FG(14 points)


Ariza 0-4 3FG(10 points)

Fisher 0-4 3FG(8 points)

if they all would have ATLEAST got to 50% they would have won.

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba was 1-7 from 3FG (30 points)

pau gasol was 6-14 FG(14 points)


Ariza 0-4 3FG(10 points)

Fisher 0-4 3FG(8 points)

if they all would have ATLEAST got to 50% they would have won.

but that's unrealistic. how do you demand that a player shoots 50% from 3FGA?

how does your scenario play out if they had shot 35% from 3FGA?

or better still, how does your scenario play out if they hadn't attempted 3FGAs at all? and instead worked for better shots from close up?

 

[TimRock]

Re: Roccet's Thread

garden weasel had 30 points. subtract the 15 points that houston scored off his mistakes, that brings it down to 15.

the garden weasel also put 3 personal fouls on his own teammates, 1 of which resulted in that teammate sitting.

how many did the garden weasel give up on D?

so then who played like ass again?

so kobe was the only player to give up points on D? Houston only scored off of his mistakes and no one elses? You said 15 points from kobes mistakes, but what about from everyone elses? I didnt know kobe had to guard every player on the court.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

we've seen Ariza and Fisher hit ATLEAST 2 3 pointers a game.

and a missed shot is a missed shot the outcome is no points.

IF they would have made those OPEN looks from behind the arc the lakers would have won.

 

[TimRock]

Re: Roccet's Thread

we've seen Ariza and Fisher hit ATLEAST 2 3 pointers a game.

and a missed shot is a missed shot the outcome is no points.

IF they would have made those OPEN looks from behind the arc the lakers would have won.

just give it up. its kobes fault man. doesnt matter what happens. When the lakers lose, its his fault.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

its kobe's fault artest took ariza to the hole and dunked on gasol.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Roccet's Thread

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or better still, how does your scenario play out if they hadn't attempted 3FGAs at all? and instead worked for better shots from close up?

Bill Simmons talking about the game

"4:20: Yet another flat 20-footer by Kobe with a hand in his face: Front of the rim, rebound Houston. Because his knees are deteriorating after 1,100-plus NBA games, Kobe shoots more jumpers and turnarounds, and it's absolutely the right move at this point in his career. At the same time, a smart defensive team like Houston (and Boston last season) plays up on him and dares him to drive for his points. When he doesn't, he has to make 20-footers with a hand in his face. You can't win a title that way.

Postgame note after the fact: Kobe has attempted a total of 44 FTs in six playoff games (7.2 per game). Last spring, he attempted 194 FTs in 22 playoff games (8.8 per game). For the regular season, his FT attempts dropped from 10.2 (2005-06) to 10.0 ('06-07) to 9.0 ('07-08) to 6.9 ('08-09). So, no, Kobe doesn't go to the hole as much. Let the record show MJ averaged 10.6 FTA in the '98 playoffs and Wade averaged 10.9 FTA in the '06 playoffs. I'm just sayin'.

(Cue up the Laker fans shrieking, "Yeah, the difference is that Kobe never gets a call!" They're the best.)"

 

[Spectrum]

Re: Roccet's Thread

just give it up. its kobes fault man. doesnt matter what happens. When the lakers lose, its his fault.

hey TimRock.. as someone who watches all the Lakers' games..what do you think about this..another quote from Bill Simmons... do you think it's just them coming out cold or do you think one of the three things Simmons said is true?

"A dreadful Lakers possession ends with a 22-foot Kobe brick over Artest, followed by a 20-footer from Yao, Yao stuffing Gasol on a drive, Odom getting fouled on the putback and Odom missing both FTs (he's 1-for-6 so far). No energy from the Lakers down the stretch. None. It continues to feel like something is slightly off with them: Either they don't totally love playing with one another, they're a little bored, they feel a little too entitled or it's some combo of all three (and that goes for the fans as well). Throughout the season and especially in the playoffs, the Cavs looked hungry as hell. The Lakers look more like they're searching for little challenges to stay focused. Which is fine if you're a 70-win team or defending champs, but in this case, neither applies. I don't know what to make of them right now. I really don't."

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba had 30 points more than anybody on the rockets.

his teammates did NOTHING.

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

we've seen Ariza and Fisher hit ATLEAST 2 3 pointers a game.

and a missed shot is a missed shot the outcome is no points.

so there's no such thing as a 4 or 5 point switch?

interesting.

IF they would have made those OPEN looks from behind the arc the lakers would have won.

but you suggested that multiple players shoot 50% from 3FGAs. what team does that?

 

[dr8k3ked]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba had 30 points more than anybody on the rockets.

his teammates did NOTHING.

/thread

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

so kobe was the only player to give up points on D?

um, i anticipated that others might not have read carefully, but i am surprised that you are amongst that group.

i took careful effort to BOLD and RED "not" counting points he gave up to his defensive assignment.

perhaps this is a basketball concept you are not familiar with?

Houston only scored off of his mistakes and no one elses? You said 15 points from kobes mistakes, but what about from everyone elses?

please tell me which fakers player surrendered MORE than 15 points to the rockets directly due to poor play AND not from his defensive assignment.

I didnt know kobe had to guard every player on the court.

who suggested that?

 

[blooo]

Re: Roccet's Thread

but you suggested that multiple players shoot 50% from 3FGAs. what team does that?

There is no team shooting 50% from the 3 Point Line. You can jack them up like Orlando Does and hope they Fall, but if you live by the 3 point line, You are Bound to fail..

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

kobes teamates did nothing.

played awful.

black mamba still had more points than anybody on the rockets team.

i guess ron artest and shane gave up 30 to kobe.

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

black mamba had 30 points more than anybody on the rockets.

his teammates did NOTHING.

might be kinda difficult for teammates to do ANYTHING when one chucker puts up 35% of the team's total FGAs.

for perspective, the WINNING team's leader in shot attempts only took 23% of the team's total FGAs.

/thread.

 

[LordSinister]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

I missed the game. I have to wait until Friday to see game 3.

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

i guess ron artest and shane gave up 30 to kobe.

that's entirely fine, as long as he keeps giving points back.

pulling the knife out 3" after you've already stabbed your own team in the back 6" isn't gonna make them better.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

they missed open looks when they had the ball.

Black Mamba had 30 points.

 

[cranrab]

Roccet's Thread

I missed the game. I have to wait until Friday to see game 3.

no internet?

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

they missed open looks when they had the ball.

Black Mamba had 30 points.

the most important part of what you typed has been highlighted.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: Roccet's Thread

they get the ball they go 0-4

kobe gets the ball he gets 30 points.

1+1=2

 

[ClevelandDawg216]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

 

[cranrab]

Re: Roccet's Thread

they get the ball they go 0-4

0-4 FGAs spread over ALL THE OTHER FAKERS is something they can and should live with.

kobe gets the ball he gets 30 points.

1+1=2

the only numbers that matters right now is 0-1.

 

[M.H.C.]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

8 pages and there hasn't even been a game 2 yet

 

[CaliChampNo.1]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

8 pages and there hasn't even been a game 2 yet

That's because the Lakers lost. When Lakers win, it's like a ghost town in a game thread. You can even see tumbleweeds blow by and shit.

Look at the Lakers/Jazz Round 1 thread to see what I'm talking about.

 

[beg4mercy]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

8 pages and there hasn't even been a game 2 yet

That's because BGOL is full of Haters my Dude. If there's nothing they can hate on most of these Niggas have glue in they moufs. I ain't never seen Niggas hate so much in my life. Niggas talkin bout David Stern, shut that shit tha fucc up. Niggas hate on anything they can get they hate on. Blacc women, T-Pain, Lakers, Cowboys, Obama, porn you name it. These haters have no boundaries!!! Chuuch!!!!

 

[TimRock]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

hey TimRock.. as someone who watches all the Lakers' games..what do you think about this..another quote from Bill Simmons... do you think it's just them coming out cold or do you think one of the three things Simmons said is true?

"A dreadful Lakers possession ends with a 22-foot Kobe brick over Artest, followed by a 20-footer from Yao, Yao stuffing Gasol on a drive, Odom getting fouled on the putback and Odom missing both FTs (he's 1-for-6 so far). No energy from the Lakers down the stretch. None. It continues to feel like something is slightly off with them: Either they don't totally love playing with one another, they're a little bored, they feel a little too entitled or it's some combo of all three (and that goes for the fans as well). Throughout the season and especially in the playoffs, the Cavs looked hungry as hell. The Lakers look more like they're searching for little challenges to stay focused. Which is fine if you're a 70-win team or defending champs, but in this case, neither applies. I don't know what to make of them right now. I really don't."

Bill Simmons, come on. I had previously stated that i thought it was a due to all the time off. Hence them coming out cold as a team. He suggests that they hate playing together, im sure there are other teams that wish they were in that position. They lose a game, and now he doesnt know what to make of them? If they win the series, then what? What will he say then? Cavs looked hungry huh. What was their record against the top 5 again? Those were the games they should have looked hungry in.

please tell me which fakers player surrendered MORE than 15 points to the rockets directly due to poor play AND not from his defensive assignment.

You asked

how many did the garden weasel give up on D?

and i asked

so kobe was the only player to give up points on D?

. So was he? Not concerned with a number, i just want to know if he was the only Laker to give up points on D.

 

[TimRock]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

8 pages and there hasn't even been a game 2 yet

That's because the Lakers lost. When Lakers win, it's like a ghost town in a game thread. You can even see tumbleweeds blow by and shit.

Look at the Lakers/Jazz Round 1 thread to see what I'm talking about.

That's because BGOL is full of Haters my Dude. If there's nothing they can hate on most of these Niggas have glue in they moufs. I ain't never seen Niggas hate so much in my life. Niggas talkin bout David Stern, shut that shit tha fucc up. Niggas hate on anything they can get they hate on. Blacc women, T-Pain, Lakers, Cowboys, Obama, porn you name it. These haters have no boundaries!!! Chuuch!!!!

Let the lakers win the next 2 games, see how quiet it gets. there will probably be one or two people who come in and point out how great everyone not named kobe played.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

Bill Simmons, come on. I had previously stated that i thought it was a due to all the time off. Hence them coming out cold as a team. He suggests that they hate playing together, im sure there are other teams that wish they were in that position. They lose a game, and now he doesnt know what to make of them? If they win the series, then what? What will he say then? Cavs looked hungry huh. What was their record against the top 5 again? Those were the games they should have looked hungry in.
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Just asking what you thought about it. I haven't seen enough games to know if there is any merit in it.

I actually think Bill Simmons writes very good analysis overall....some of his blog posts have been dead on about certain teams, players, etc.

and what about other Phil Jackson coached teams that routinely swept teams... had long rests and then came back and swept teams again.... the long rests before didn't seem to be a problem?

However, it's too early to make the call. I could be that the Houston Rockets as they are now are A LOT better than the regular season Houston Rockets that got swept by the Lakers? If Battier continues to play good defense on Kobe and Kobe settles for jumshots with his hand in his face, it could be a long series for L.A.... but one game isn't enough to judge a series... that's why it's a 7 games series..

 

[TimRock]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

Just asking what you thought about it. I haven't seen enough games to know if there is any merit in it.

I actually think Bill Simmons writes very good analysis overall....some of his blog posts have been dead on about certain teams, players, etc.

and what about other Phil Jackson coached teams that routinely swept teams... had long rests and then came back and swept teams again.... the long rests before didn't seem to be a problem?

However, it's too early to make the call. I could be that the Houston Rockets as they are now are A LOT better than the regular season Houston Rockets that got swept by the Lakers? If Battier continues to play good defense on Kobe and Kobe settles for jumshots with his hand in his face, it could be a long series for L.A.... but one game isn't enough to judge a series... that's why it's a 7 games series..

but thats stupid for him to suggest they hate playing together. what team wins over 60 games, but hates playing together. Then he says the Cavs look hunrgy all season long.

I mentioned it before, lakers v. sixers in the finals. they swept thru the west and lost the first game at home to philly. LA came back and won 4 straight. Including 3 in philly.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: ***The Official Laker's vs Roccet's Thread

but thats stupid for him to suggest they hate playing together. what team wins over 60 games, but hates playing together. Then he says the Cavs look hunrgy all season long.

I mentioned it before, lakers v. sixers in the finals. they swept thru the west and lost the first game at home to philly. LA came back and won 4 straight. Including 3 in philly.

I didnt see where that came from..in terms of hating to play together. That is why I asked.

But I dont think this Lakers team really compares to the team that beat Philly in the Finals... Shaq was still by far the most dominant player in the game and had another monster Finals performance.. I dont think LA played particularly bad in game one.. Iverson just had a MONSTER game and dropped 48 on them.. i think the circumstances and performances really dont equate

 

[tp2001]

Re: Roccet's Thread

Bill Simmons talking about the game

Postgame note after the fact: Kobe has attempted a total of 44 FTs in six playoff games (7.2 per game). Last spring, he attempted 194 FTs in 22 playoff games (8.8 per game). For the regular season, his FT attempts dropped from 10.2 (2005-06) to 10.0 ('06-07) to 9.0 ('07-08) to 6.9 ('08-09). So, no, Kobe doesn't go to the hole as much. Let the record show MJ averaged 10.6 FTA in the '98 playoffs and Wade averaged 10.9 FTA in the '06 playoffs. I'm just sayin'.

Which is why if Kobe is going to have 26 to 30 FGAs in a game, if he doesn't go to the line, it's not that effective for the Lakers. Add no ball movement to boot, and it's a wrap...

I actually think, if they play correctly (running the triangle through the post like they should) and dont take games off, the Lakers would win it all..

Preach on, brotha