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[playahaitian]

The Flash's Greatest Mystery Is Finally Solved In This Deleted Scene

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Now that we know the truth about Harrison Wells, the biggest mystery of the hit CW show has been how the superpowered villains the Flash has captured and imprisoned in STAR Labs survive. Thanks to this clip from last week’s episode “Grodd Lives,” we finally have the answer.

And the answer is... take-out.

Apparently, the silver lining to being illegally detained in a particle accelerator-turned-superhuman-prison is that you get to order whatever you want for your meals. Big Belly Burger is a lot more delicious than due process, amIrite?

While I’m glad to see the show finally address this weirdness, I feel like Caitlin wheeling in meals three times a day to all the evil metahumans they’ve captured over the first season isn’t much of an answer either. What if another villain kidnaps Caitlin? Who feeds them then? What if everybody’s captured, or busy fighting a new supervillain? Do the prisoners just not eat? And we still don’t know how the heck they go to the bathroom.

You get an E for Effort, Flash, but I’m going to need more details, please.

 

[TimRock]

Anyone catch the green lantern reference?

 

[chrislee]

Anyone catch the green lantern reference?

No what was it?

 

[TimRock]

No what was it?

They mentioned that Ferris Air was closed down after one of the test pilots went missing.

 

[Flawless]

They mentioned that Ferris Air was closed down after one of the test pilots went missing.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Cute finally. I've always been wondering why the hell nobody ever said anything about the legality of holding the villains there.

 

[TimRock]

Cute finally. I've always been wondering why the hell nobody ever said anything about the legality of holding the villains there.

That wasn't the finale. It's next week.

 

[Solomon]

Cute finally. I've always been wondering why the hell nobody ever said anything about the legality of holding the villains there.

You realize you're talking about a show based on a comic book right? So the legality of holding villains is an issue, but a kid running faster than the speed of sound is cool? One person running fast enough to cause the entire world to go back in time is okay? The Flash grabbing people and carrying them to safety at supersonic speeds without snapping their spines is cool? You either have to buy into the fantasy or absolutely none of it would make sense.

 

[chrislee]

They mentioned that Ferris Air was closed down after one of the test pilots went missing.

Oh ok, when they mentioned Ferris Air I was like where have I heard of that before. I just really hope that Flash can keep doing well going into next season and not drop off like Arrow has.

 

[chrislee]

Stephen Amell Says DC TV Universe Is Connected

Unlike Marvel, DC’s movie and TV universes are completely separate, with two different actors often playing the same role. But even though there are several DC properties across several different networks (Arrow & Flash on CW, Gotham on Fox, the upcoming Supergirl on CBS, etc), could there be crossovers? Arrow star Stephen Amell confirms that the DC TV universe is pretty considered one connected universe so theoretically any DC show can cross over with another.
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There is an opportunity for interconnectivity with any DC television show that exists. Like, as an example, yesterday Constantine was cancelled. And there is…yeah, I know, it’s brutal…it’s a good show, and it should come back. And it may come back, like there are various platforms where it could come back. Now, Constantine was an NBC show. I’m on The CW. I had had discussions with DC… so not NBC, not CW… but with DC Entertainment about guest starring on Constantine when it was still on the air. And that was and is still on the table. So we have Flash, we have Legends of Tomorrow, a new show which is directly connected to the Arrow universe, we have Supergirl… she got picked up, directed by my good friend Glen Winter, that pilot, I can’t wait to see it, I’m sure it’s going to be amazing… there’s Gotham obviously, and I’m missing something… Titans, there you go. So again I wouldn’t worry too much about the movie universe, because we have no shortage of options for me and other characters to populate.

So there you have it from Arrow himself, Stephen Amell, that you could totally see characters from show’s on other networks. Stephan Amell had previously discussed the possibility of a Gotham crossover, which while unlikely, with the Flash introducing the concept of time travel, anything is possible (although given that Gotham star Robin Lord Taylor said he’d love to be on The Flash, that would probably be much more likely and fitting).
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[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

You realize you're talking about a show based on a comic book right? So the legality of holding villains is an issue, but a kid running faster than the speed of sound is cool? One person running fast enough to cause the entire world to go back in time is okay? The Flash grabbing people and carrying them to safety at supersonic speeds without snapping their spines is cool? You either have to buy into the fantasy or absolutely none of it would make sense.

No you don't. Comics. Sci fi. Fantasy, Fans don't have to do that at all. We can question whatever we like. And it's an area that allows for it. It's not real. But at the same time everyone knows that it has to have some reality to it. There are still some things that have to be spoken of. Answered too. It's never been an all in, all out situation with these genres.

And to prove it. They answered i in this episode lol.

That wasn't the finale. It's next week.

True.

 

[tical]

wait, so after all that...all it took was a arrow from Oliver to stop Wells ???

They've been pretty good with the writing and the direction of the show thus far. But so far I don't see the logic in this move...

 

[tical]

The black chic was the only smart one out of the bunch, she got back her powers and got the fuck outta there instead of fighting. Btw how the fuck does Wells get shot twice by the arrow "let me keep turning my back to the guy with the sharp arrows" . I was hoping older Barry would have showed up to save the day



The show doesn't need Wells they can easily find some other bad guy who is causing a ruckus next season, I wouldn't be surprised if kid flash showed up next season because Barry changes the past and fucked up the future.

As per usual, you're missing the mark in making the assumption that Dr.Wells character strength is in being a "bad guy!"

 

[Flawless]

As per usual, you're missing the mark in making the assumption that Dr.Wells character strength is in being a "bad guy!"

Him being the mysterious bad guy is his only appeal, Barry already has a father figure and a tech guy.

 

[tical]

Think about it....

Even if Cisco & Caitlin DID figure out how to stop Wells by using some nanotechnology....... they STILL had less than 24 hours to create said nanotech.

So ummm yeah.... WHO ELSE could get their hands on THAT MUCH (reliable) nanotechnology which has been 'thoroughly tested' and ACTUALLY WORKS…. on such ‘short notice’?

Oliver Queen. That’s who.

Courtesy of Ray Palmer Industries.

It was a great reason to have another 'crossover' episode with The Arrow.

I say Bravo. Nicely Done.

Great episode, overall... One of the BEST this season, imo.

(**tips hat towards the Flash tv writers**)

^^^
Not even close to a "great episode" IMO. Hell, the last 15 minutes more or less saved it. The beginning gave you a great sense of what this show is like without Dr.Wells...

Not to mention its "laughable" that nanites could operate in his body!

I'm not even gonna get into the Joe conversation with Flash on why he's essentially better than the Arrow as a hero and a human being. They literally shitted on their own alley and contradicted the lesson by going to Oliver for help in the end just like Captain Cold in the beginning.

 

[tical]

Him being the mysterious bad guy is his only appeal, Barry already has a father figure and a tech guy.

 

[TimRock]

Stephen Amell Says DC TV Universe Is Connected

Unlike Marvel, DC’s movie and TV universes are completely separate, with two different actors often playing the same role. But even though there are several DC properties across several different networks (Arrow & Flash on CW, Gotham on Fox, the upcoming Supergirl on CBS, etc), could there be crossovers? Arrow star Stephen Amell confirms that the DC TV universe is pretty considered one connected universe so theoretically any DC show can cross over with another.
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So there you have it from Arrow himself, Stephen Amell, that you could totally see characters from show’s on other networks. Stephan Amell had previously discussed the possibility of a Gotham crossover, which while unlikely, with the Flash introducing the concept of time travel, anything is possible (although given that Gotham star Robin Lord Taylor said he’d love to be on The Flash, that would probably be much more likely and fitting).
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http://capedcrusades.com/2015/05/10/stephen-amell-says-dc-tv-universe-is-connected/​

So he knows the movies will suck. If they can connect this to Gotham that would be great. But they would have to say that Gotham is taking place about 15 years before The other shows and then do some time jumping to catch up. This could be a good thing.

 

[g0nbad real bad]

^^^
Not even close to a "great episode" IMO. Hell, the last 15 minutes more or less saved it. The beginning gave you a great sense of what this show is like without Dr.Wells...

Not to mention its "laughable" that nanites could operate in his body!

I'm not even gonna get into the Joe conversation with Flash on why he's essentially better than the Arrow as a hero and a human being. They literally shitted on their own alley and contradicted the lesson by going to Oliver for help in the end just like Captain Cold in the beginning.

Man I thought it was one of the best episodes yet. I like how Barry faked out Wells by saying Oliver and Firestorm were to busy to help. Why are the nanites laughable? Barry has the same powers as Wells and has succumb to all kind of shit gas and injections.

And Barry is more morally founded than Oliver. Oliver is judged by all of his deeds not the last season. Remember when he was killing people and saying fuck jail?

 

[tical]

Man I thought it was one of the best episodes yet. I like how Barry faked out Wells by saying Oliver and Firestorm were to busy to help. Why are the nanites laughable? Barry has the same powers as Wells and has succumb to all kind of shit gas and injections.

Barry faked out Wells? How? By having Oliver and Firestorm show up? Notice when you mentioned Barry being exposed to those things non of them rely on electricity..obviously the nanites do..

And Barry is more morally founded than Oliver. Oliver is judged by all of his deeds not the last season. Remember when he was killing people and saying fuck jail?

Fam, Barry's biological father pretty much said that Oliver has no morals and is essentially just like Firestorm and the rest...Barry agreed and then turned around and asked Oliver for help?

Wasn't the whole point of the talk not to associate with people like Oliver, Firestorm and every other bad guy?

The episode was boring until the last few minutes..............

 

[keone]

well thanks to wells we now know that the arrow's life wont be in danger the coming seasons lol

 

[stretchwallz]

Captain Cold stole this episode ...he's the only wise person on the show

Anyone catch the green lantern reference?

They mentioned that Ferris Air was closed down after one of the test pilots went missing.

Yep I was waiting for Hal Jordan to walk by or Star Sapphire to show up

 

[grownazzblakman]

The episode was boring until the last few minutes..............

First of all... If the episode was boring until the last few minutes... Some TV writers & viewers might call that a good 'climax'.

Second of all... A nanite gets its name from the term nanometer, which is one billionth of a meter. Nanites are most commonly associated with the biomedicine.

Both Barry and Dr. Wells literally EMIT ELECTRICITY with their 'speed force' powers... (even at a 'stand still')... So how do you figure that biomedical nanites (which need electricity) could never function inside their bodies which constantly discharge electricity?

If anything... It's possible that the massive amounts of kinetic energy & electricity in their bodies could 'supercharge' them summabiches, above & beyond normal humans.

That's prolly why the Reverse Flash had to 'vibrate his molecules' to expel them from his body, out of his sweat glands.

 

[HAR125LEM]

Captain Cold stole this episode ...he's the only wise person on the show

Fuckin' Wentworth Miller is so AWESOME as Captain Cold...

Outside of Harrison Wells, Dude is the BEST in the Rogues Gallery.

 

[The Pope]

Fuckin' Wentworth Miller is so AWESOME as Captain Cold...

Outside of Harrison Wells, Dude is the BEST in the Rogues Gallery.

ever since Prison Break,he's had some awesome roles

 

[playahaitian]

well thanks to wells we now know that the arrow's life wont be in danger the coming seasons lol

you caught that?

86 years old.

 

[playahaitian]

good episode.

Captain Cold has already developed in one of the best TV super villains

Luthor on Smallville, Ward on Shield, Kingpin on Daredevil.

That scorpion frog speech was outstanding.

didn't like that the big build up for the fight scene and it got crammed into the last minute of the episode.

Also didn't like the shitting on Oliver stuff, the writers can do better then that. Highlight the MOTIVATIONS for each characters different path to Justice that can build just as much tension and conflict.

Batman and Superman have had the same debate for DECADES (so has Daredevil and Punisher)

I liked that final break up scene with Iris and Eddie

that was real as hell

when she HAD to get the final word in so SHE could be the one to dump him.

fine...go.

that look on her face???

Boy I've been there.

 

[playahaitian]

THIS FALL

MONDAY

8-9 P.M. — CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND

9-10 P.M. — Jane the Virgin

TUESDAY

8-8 P.M. — The Flash

9-10. PM. — iZombie

WEDNESDAY

8-9 P.M. — Arrow

9-10 P.M. — Supernatural

THURSDAY

8-9 P.M. — The Vampire Diaries

9-10 P.M. — The Originals

FRIDAY

8-9 P.M. — Reign

9-10 P.M. — America’s Next Top Model

 

[Flawless]

Fuckin' Wentworth Miller is so AWESOME as Captain Cold...

Outside of Harrison Wells, Dude is the BEST in the Rogues Gallery.

Yeah his finger is so quick not even the flash is fast enough to grab his gun and whoop his ass.

 

[grownazzblakman]

Yeah his finger is so quick not even the flash is fast enough to grab his gun and whoop his ass.

His finger doesn't have to be quick at all.

In the comics, that man is dangerous. Point. Blank. Period. Always has been.

Just like Heatwave’s (flamethrower) gun heats up the air around himself…. Captain Cold’s primary weapon (his ‘cold gun’) also cools down the air around him.

In the comics, his weapon creates an invisible field that he called his 'Cold Field'.

It was never actually known ‘how large’ the diameter of this field was since it seemed to change throughout the stories he's in, so most comic readers just speculated that Captain Cold can determine/control how large the field is.

This ‘Cold Field’ freezes ANYTHING that comes in contact with it…. as it was shown to completely stop bullets in mid air and even froze the arm off a thug who once tried to sneak close enough to kill Captain Cold.

And the only thing that could ever pass through his ‘cold field’ was a Speedster moving at incredible speeds, like The Flash. (But he would be slowed down tremendously whenever doing so.)

Although they never (outright) say this stuff on the tv show…

It is highly possible that the very air around Captain Cold could be cold enough to slow Barry’s molecules down enough to actually be able to target him / hit him / stun him /or kill him.

Think about it...

The Flash don't really got any 'stealth game'. (But his 'ambush game' is on FULL TILT. )

All the lightning, streaks & red flashes he generates always gives away his position, so he can't really 'sneak around'... He just blazes right past everybody instead.

All it would take is for Barry to try to 'run up' on Captain Cold… but get slowed down by that Cold Field… just long enough for Captain to aim, target him & light his ass up with a ‘lucky shot’ … and it’s 'game over' for Barry.

Barry might not want to risk that shit …. but maybe you would.

 

[raze]

well thanks to wells we now know that the arrow's life wont be in danger the coming seasons lol

When Barry goes back in time, I think it's going to have a ripple effect on BOTH shows so don't be so sure about Oliver's future.

 

[chrislee]

THIS FALL

MONDAY

8-9 P.M. — CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND

9-10 P.M. — Jane the Virgin

TUESDAY

8-8 P.M. — The Flash

9-10. PM. — iZombie

WEDNESDAY

8-9 P.M. — Arrow

9-10 P.M. — Supernatural

THURSDAY

8-9 P.M. — The Vampire Diaries

9-10 P.M. — The Originals

FRIDAY

8-9 P.M. — Reign

9-10 P.M. — America’s Next Top Model

So i'm guessing the spin off starts in 2016?

 

[chrislee]

When Barry goes back in time, I think it's going to have a ripple effect on BOTH shows so don't be so sure about Oliver's future.

That makes sense. Arrow definitely needs a reset button. I mean Xmen 3 reset.

 

[chrislee]

DC's Legends of Tomorrow: First Image, Synopsis Released, Revealing Hawkgirl, Rip Hunter, White Canary



The CW has released the first look at DC's Legends of Tomorrow, the new series spinning out of Arrow and The Flash and starring Brandon Routh, Caity Lotz and Victor Garber in roles from those shows.

legends-of-tomorrowLaunching at midseason, the show already has some of its work cut out for it -- explaining how a couple of its leads are even alive, and why Victor Garber has no Robbie Amell to make Firestorm with him.

Curiously absent from this image is Franz Drameh, who will play Jay Jackson, apparently a new character, or at least a new civilian identity for an old character. That mystery hero may get his powers during the actual series, which might explain why he's not here for this initial photo. One also must wonder whether he will appear with Ciarra Renee and other members of the Legends of Tomorrow cast on The Flash's season finale next week.

When heroes alone are not enough… the world needs legends. Having seen the future, one he will desperately try to prevent from happening, time-traveling rogue Rip Hunter is tasked with assembling a disparate group of both heroes and villains to confront an unstoppable threat — one in which not only is the planet at stake, but all of time itself. Can this ragtag team defeat an immortal threat unlike anything they have ever known?

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I'm glad the true Canary Sara is back.

 

[playahaitian]

Yeah his finger is so quick not even the flash is fast enough to grab his gun and whoop his ass.

Powers and abilities

Like the majority of the Flash's rogues, Snart had no innate superhuman powers. He instead relied on his cold guns and instincts. Over the years Snart had modified his weapons to allow a variety of effects such as:

A cold beam that freezes anything it hits instantly.

Creating a cold field where people and objects literally stop in their tracks. Cold uses this ability to slow down The Flash's movements.

Bathing his opponent in a wide beam of ice designed to freeze the skin of the target so they stay conscious and do not go numb to the pain. Cold used this to kill Chill Blaine who murdered Cold's sister to make him suffer as much as possible.

Creating a slippery field of ice which can slow down the Flash.
Forming sharp stalagmites on the ground to impale his enemies. Used to kill Chill Blaine after freezing the outer layer of his skin so he could inflict as much pain as possible.

An "ice grenade" which was stated to "turn this place into an iceberg". Used to freeze everything in a large radius, and the whole of Iron Heights during the events of Blackest Night.

Creating "mirages" out of extreme cold-like heat.

 

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