The more i see Obama.......the more I hate niggas

Dude I wasnt even talking about Obama especially far as the hip hop line. Comp, be serious his mom is white, he grew up in Hawaii. His story is great, but like the other poster said its not comparable to an average hood dude. The post wasnt an attack on Obama. It was the fact that cats condemning NON-successful/unenlightened blacks...isnt doing shit for us as a people. Yeah I know its elements of our race that are downright embarassing, but to "hate" your own race for their shortcomings, is retarded.

no one hates being black...we're just tired of niggas who don;t want anything and seem to not just concede but RELISH in being ignorant and I use that in the dictionary context not an insult

ig·no·rant: 1 a: destitute of knowledge or education 2: lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified.

GhettoFABULOUS..since when did living the ghetto become a POSITIVE thing??? Since when did living in and being ghetto become synonymous with BLACK PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY?

ghet·to: Italian, from Venetian dialect ghèto island where Jews were forced to live, literally, foundry (located on the island), from ghetàr to cast, from
2. a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live
3. an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b: a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity

thats the definition of ghetto and we've ACCEPTED IT as a part of black culture...when the fuck did this happen??

And Obama's story is just like any other black kid and single parent kid out there...the difference is he made a CHOICE to do something positive..you got black kids who live in the worst parts of the US but have LOVE AND SUPPORT from their family and they STILL CHOOSE to do some fucked up stuff...

lets stop giving niggas a pass on that shit.



EXACTLY. Alot of these niggas think Obama gonna get elected and he just gonna press a magic button and VOILAAAA!! the Black community is fixed. These same cats talking about they hate niggas aint never handed out as much as an application. If you so smart, are u too good to teach another brother? Or are you so insecure that you feel that if you teach another brother what you know, he may apply it different and ascend to greater levels than you have?

You cats aint following Obama, Obama is preaching unity and upliftment, you niggas are preaching separation and segregation. It starts at home.

dude I and i'm sure MANY brothas on here would LOVE to teach and help..but you got to WANT to be taught and helped...trying to help some of these niggas around here is like trying to remove a cavity from a rott weiler with a pair of pliers...sure youre trying to help but they don't get it and you may end up getting bit in the end:smh:
 
Yeah man, everytime I see Bill Gates, it just makes me hate my next door neighbor who's a meth-head even more. . . . . . .

See how stooopid that sounds?


Get the picture.

Comparing Obama to the niggaz on your corner is like comparing Bill Gates to your average trailor-trash. It's retarded, just like how all of y'all have been acting since this Obama thing has gotten started. Poor Whites & Poor Blacks will always be more ignorant than their middle-class and upper-class brethren, that's just how it is.

How many niggaz you know who are A)half-white B)raised in the most racially diverse place in Amerikkka C)grew up partially in Indonesia D)went to exclusive private schools D) Went to Harvard and Columbia E)

Your comparison would actually be more accurate with Clarence Thomas, who is full-Black, from the Deep South and who suffered from racism full-on back in the day, than it is with Barack Obama. Just keep your racist, anti-Negro bullshit to yourself next time you find something idiotic to say. Oprah's story or even Condoleeza Rice's story is closer to ours than Barack Obama's. I'm glad he's getting in McCain's ass too, but this is ridiculous.

Next thing you know, niggaz are gonna renounce watermelons or something.

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The apathy in the black community frustates me. How can anyone not be excited by this who's black?

Who thought this would be possibe in their lifetime?

:hmm: who gives a shit, Barack aint Black like you or I...shit aint the same nor does it have the same meaning. Actually this is so fucking close to the house v field nigga analogy and its being ignored because we as a people are just so desperate to be there.

I had the conversation with someone yesterday. And the person made a good point. He basically said "what are niggas gonna say now? What's gonna be the excuse now if Obama wins?" It made me think. A lot of brothas get down on themselves thinking the world is against them. And their feelings are justified... to an extent. But when Obama gets in, will brothas still say the white man is holding them bacl? I realize it's just ONE person breaking through to the top. But I wonder if black baseball players sat on their ass and still complained once Jackie Robinson broke through, or did they have hope? Did that inspire them to try to make the majors? I'm betting it did.

The white man pushes you out, while another pulls you into the 'big leagues' of corporate America. Barack isn't like me, doesn't like me, didn't grow up in my environment, saw the struggles of the inner-city from a television in Hawaii. Fucker went by Barry until he moved to LA...if he was dark as me, I question whether or not he would be this appealing. Fuck Barry Obama, we have to reclaim our lives on a individual level...restructuring families, leading to stronger communities, which leads to Black unity & president intent on ushering in a Global agenda won't do that..whether he a nigga or not.
 
That's just it. White Amerikkka doesn't see it in that light. They lump their lower class whites with ALL of our Blacks, whether they had a "good upbringing" or not.

Hell, Obama has said on numerous occasions that he is a Christian, but I know for a FACT that certain whites still think he's a Muslim and want to seperate from the Democratic party just based on that. Hell, there was a video posted here a few months ago that had a bunch of middle-lower class whites that believed that. I think they were from wherever they make Jack Daniels, that's all I can remember about the video.

Lower-class whites still believe that they're "better" than middle-/upper-class Blacks, simply because at the end of the day, their skin is lighter than theirs. Nevermind the fact that the middle-class Blacks are in a better living condition than they are. They still think they're better. Why? Because the middle-/upper-class Blacks are still BLACKS.

Racist stereotypes like "Niggas are gonna renounce watermelons" is something so ignorant, that if you heard a white person say it, you'd check their asses in a heartbeat. Same as if you heard one even utter the word "nigga/er." But they know they don't have to keep these, or any other stereotypes about us alive. You, and people like you do their jobs for them.

Hell, I'm Black, and I haven't eaten watermelon in years, does that mean I'm one of those "niggas" you speak of?
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You're absolutely right, I would check a white person in a minute, just like I'd smack the shit out of you for saying some shit to my sister that I could say to her, or my cousin, or my homie I've known since 4th grade. There are somethings that I can say to me peeps that you can't, and vice versa.

I love how dumb niggaz like you get on me for saying nigga, while at the same time this motherfucker
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can say whatever he wants about Jews because he's a Jew.

And this motherfucker
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can say what he wants about his people, because he's Mexican.

Even women call each other bitches all the time. Yet, whenever a Black man uses his privilege as a Black man to communicate with his brother in a way that others can't, then it's a problem for White people and house niggaz like you.

I'll speak for Huey Newton, Bobby Seal, The Last Poets, Gil-Scott Heron, and all the real niggaz out there and tell you to eat a dick.

I'll stop right there because that's something some of these cats are missing (Profit, you didn't get the point).

People are going to too many extremes. What about the people in the middle who are trying and making it, without selling themselves and all of us short?

Most black people aren't wearing colored hair and grills.

You don't have to be high profile and in the limelight to make a difference. Presenting yourself in the best, true light, being responsible and respectful within your everyday life, and choosing better associations is what will change the "perception" of black people.

You don't chop a tree down from the top.


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I should follow the phrase in my sig.

Exactly, I'm from the hood, and I work for a charity. Do I wear baggy jeans, Afro and Jordans? Yeah. But my job allows me to, so I'm actually designing games and literature for kids and people to help them learn how to be involved in the community. I bet you I'm doing more in my community than Sir Woods and all those other coons in this thread, even though I dress the way I do. I've probably met more Black leaders and icons in my short life, than most of these idiots have seen on TV in their lives. I've been in the game since I was a kid, starting out with the Nation, who enlightened me to get involved in politics and my community.

But I guess because I don't wear a suit everyday, I'm just a dumb ass nigga.

You are not alone and it's not self hatred, I agree with all you said. That culture is not helping anyone. In particular it's hurting those who are trying to make positive change. What's really sad is this is not a fad but a culture.

They're quick to label people who dress like Obama and Michelle toms or sellouts because they want a better life. Their idealism is downright stupid. The truth is they are the sellouts, they are the coons because they would rather continue living their wretched going nowhere lives as is rather than to try and do better.

Your not alone I'm sick of it too.:hmm:

Who??? Who are these Black people calling Obama a sell-out? I had the privilege to be in at an Obama rally last night, in one of the most notorious ghettos in America, watching grown men and women crying their eyes out looking at Michelle and Barack Obama. If you were to come to any hood in Amerikkka and say anything bad about either one of them, you'd get shot. Just stay in whatever suburb you live in and shut the fuck up. Don't speak for us.

I applaud you for having the guts to speak you mind fam! Of course niggas are going to twist what you say and make it something it's not, but real men who care for the state of OUR people understand what your trying to say!

If a bruh like Obama can make it through all the bullshit black men have to go through daily to fight for a seat at the head of the table, shouldn't none of our people have an excuse to be anything less than great.

I seen allot of bruhs on here who are offended by the posters words because he talks about BLACK PEOPLE, but please realize, the damage done in our communities by NIGGAS, effects us all. You may not think so if your head is screwed on straight, but the state of our race is killing us all.

And if you knew you issues, then you'd know that "Niggaz" are made not born. "Niggaz" have been made by the bad schools that come from the deprivation of money in the inner-cities. "Niggaz" have been made by the ghetto. "Niggaz" have been made by the cops who sell drugs in our community, while at the same time, harrassing old ladies and little kids. "Niggaz" have been made by a drug war that saw it's own government ship all the jobs out of the inner cities, then ship drugs into our communities, then use Black people as the scapegoat, while locking up millions of fathers, brothers, and cousins, who weren't there to raise the next generation of Black leaders.

You Larry Elder sounding ass niggaz make me sick.

Huey, Malcolm, The Black Panthers would spit in you house niggaz' faces.

I need to see where all of these black folks are calling Barack and Michelle sellouts. Cuz I live in the hood; in the epitome of urban decay and frustration, and everyone on the block was watching theses speeches in tears, proud of the historic event we were witnessing. Nah fellas theres a little self hate mixed in with your opinions, and dare I say maybe you guys are out of touch with the inner workings of those folks, esp. when the pics you posted were not even overtly ignorant or embarrassing... A group of brothers standing outside on a summer day with tanks on?

Exactly, as do I. My job is actually to deal with people "in the hood" and I actually work for Obama in a indirect way, so I've spoken to a ton of people. I even had to suffer through some nigga who was high as fuck last night, who kept telling me, "That's the next president of the USA, right chea!!!" and everybody was lookin' like "Oh God", but he was proud as fuck. Young nigga rockin' a Carolina jersey

People are more excited about this than anything in the history of existence, even moreso than the OJ verdict. It's like Hip-Hop doesn't even exist right now, where I come from.

So, you outside niggaz, who either used to live in the hood, or live in the burbs, but claim to know a few niggaz in the hood, stop lyin' on us. Do not put your issues on us.

The apathy in the black community frustates me. How can anyone not be excited by this who's black?

Who thought this would be possibe in their lifetime?

Who? You must not live in Amerikkka or something, or at least in the hood or around Black people.

I had the conversation with someone yesterday. And the person made a good point. He basically said "what are niggas gonna say now? What's gonna be the excuse now if Obama wins?" It made me think. A lot of brothas get down on themselves thinking the world is against them. And their feelings are justified... to an extent. But when Obama gets in, will brothas still say the white man is holding them bacl? I realize it's just ONE person breaking through to the top. But I wonder if black baseball players sat on their ass and still complained once Jackie Robinson broke through, or did they have hope? Did that inspire them to try to make the majors? I'm betting it did.

It's not about "complaining" it's not as simple as baseball. Hell, right now, all the Black players like Gary Sheffield, Kenny Lofton, and Barry Bonds are complaining about how shit hasn't changed all that much in baseball. They're saying they're still trying to keep "us" out, so that might be a bad example.

Will there be more Blacks in politics? Yes, but that was never the problem. How does Obama being president automatically restore the tax-bases, home equity, schools, and social services of every Black city in Amerikkka? Those are the things that have kicked out ass, not that a bunch of lazy ass niggaz just don't wanna do right. The worst educated come from the worst schools and the poorest cities. That has absolutely nothing to do with a Black man being president or not. Unless you're gonna raise all of us in Hawaii or in racially accepting places like that or send us all to private schools, then to Harvard, it's a completely moot point that somebody like Larry Elder or Armstrong Williams would make. Michelle Obama's story is closer to ours than Barack's is. Barack's story will probably never be equalled and achieved again, just because of how weird it is.

Exactly. Thats what whites dont do. Whites never denounce their fellow whites no matter what. Niggas rise above and denounce everything below them, which is why we dont rise as a PEOPLE not a damn person.

White people rise and have no shame coming around poorer whites trying to uplift them. Blacks get rich and try to get as far away as they can, then they wonder why in the few cases they do come back, they are preyed upon. Its corny ass NIGGAS like the OP that keep shit the way it is now. Yes YOU ARE the NIGGA cause only NIGGAS think for themselves and shun others.

What the fuck does a gold grill have to do with anything. Slim Thug has a "grill", yet he owns/has stake in several real estate companies, and gives money to numerous charities in his community on a yearly basis that helps kids every day...What the fuck did his grill have to do with that?

Alot of you dudes I can tell are "crackerized". Basically this dude hates hip hop and thats cool, but you blaming hip hop for the decomposition of the black race? LOL. Niggas comparing Obama, a privileged mixed kid to the struggle of cats growing up facing real adversity... I swear some of you dudes should just bleach your skin.

EXACTLY!!!

John McCain just came from a motorcycle biker weekend at Sturgis, where he pondered aloud if he should enter his wife into one of those redneck beauty pageants where women strip and shit. John McCain's embracing the rednecks and country audience, because he's making the pitch that he's not above anybody, even those meth-head, rocked out bikers in South Dakota.

But once again, elitist ass niggaz wanna find a way to exclude the poorest and least educated and most effected by institutional racism to make their case to "massa" of how special they are.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about :smh:

Obama saw his dad once his entire life, and was raised by his mother and grandparents? What privilege life did he lead? Because he went to a prestigious school on scholarships and loans?
He hates hip hop?

You don't even know his fuckin story :smh:

Are you kidding me? His grandparents, who were not poor raised him and the only time he was really raised by his mother, he lived in Indonesia. How many Black people you know story's sound like that?

I aint grow up in Hawaii or Indonesia. Did anybody you know????

Going to private schools like Punahou School, which is one of the best schools in Amerikkka, from 5th grade up until he graduated from High-school is not the life that your average kid from Detroit leads. Stop trying to make his story everybody elses. It's not. Nobody said that he didn't have a father. Hell, Biggie Smalls' kids don't have a father, but that don't mean that they live in Bed Stuy does it? A lot of people don't have a father, who aren't from the hood. It doesn't take away from his accomplishments, but stop trying to make it seem like he's from Compton or something. If he was from Compton, chances are, he wouldn't be where he's at. It's just fact.

Flav is black :lol: So now black is determined by how dark you are?

So if he were to get pulled over by a white cop, would the cop say...you can go, you're half like me :hmm:

They're more rich whites than black :eek: I didn't know that :rolleyes:

Re-read what you misinterpreted again :hmm:

Your post are funny. You don't know white people well.

Actually it's quite different between white people and black people. Look at you for example. While bragging about your car, you talk about the hood. Like you're a hood dude. Was your lifes mission to drive around the hood in your car? Show the people in the hood they can get a nice car? If you're black and aren't a hood dude, that doesn't make you black enough. That's the point you were getting at with him not being from Chicago, right? You had a different struggle. He didn't struggle enough? Black people are taught they're supposed to revel and worship the hood. But when some dumb shit happens, like with Marvin Harrison or Michael Vick, we wonder why they were in the hood. White people don't even know they're more white people on welfare than black people. To them poverty has a black face. Even though both political parties are predominantly white, what do they do for poor people? Al Sharpton mentioned poor people more in 2004 than Kerry or Bush.

First off, Marvin Harrison is known as one of the least "hood" dudes in all of sports, so that makes your point really stupid. And yes, Barack's struggle is a different struggle. Hawaii is not Compton, nor has it ever been. It's not Detroit. It's not Gary. It's not Washington D.C. in the 1980s. It's not the same. Nobody saying he's not Black, just that his story is pretty unlikely to ever be duplicated by anybody who's father wasn't a "goat-herder" from kenya and who's mother was from Kansas, but then moved to the most racially diverse and open places in America, then moved to Jakarta Indonesia, where they received lessons in another language, and then moved back to Hawaii, and then was accepted to one of the best most open minded schools in Amerikkka in 5th grade, and then experimented with drugs and alcohol, and then went to Columbia University, and on to Harvard.

If all these things happen in this exact sequence, then you too can be Barack Obama.

Nobody's said you can't be successful from the hood. There's too many people who are, who's life stories are way closer to most Black people than this guys. That doesn't make him any less Black, just that his life story is way, way, way more interesting and different than most Americans.

The difference is they sweep their redneck, hells angels, meth selling/using, mullet wearing culture under the fucking rug.

The white elite PIMP our ghetto culture to sell everything from sprite to mcdonalds to video games ,etc.

They don't use hells angel 'flava', but will use our 'thug flava' in a minute. They promote all this stupid shit, that is why even white kids in the burbs try to be 'wiggers' until they go off to college and grow out of it(nobody hires wiggers).

If we lived in a country where the advertisers didn't promote the 'street aspect' of our people and used their own people maybe shit would be different.

They ashamed of their 'white trash' and would never do that but have no problem promoting 'black trash' lifestyle.

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So tell us all how it was in Hawaii in the 1960's?

Nigga's can't live with them can't live with out them.:smh:
Hawaii 1960s
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Detroit 1960s
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Newark, New Jersey 1960s
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man fuck what america thinks they made us! everything we do we in some way shape or form we learned from them including hating each other.They got so many of us so brainwashed that we think we are our own worst enemy. I love my people and I will never be shame so either you hate yourself or maybe you a cracker!
 
The threadstarter isn't making much sense with this one. Because Obama is doing his thing, now it is time to group most blacks with the troubled few? Like what someone else said, because of Bill Gates it is time to hate the meth head next door more? Nonsense.

:yes: :yes:

I rated this thread 1-star.
 
You know you're gonna get clowned and hated on for this thread, don't you?

On Da Real...

I've been thinking this for the last few months myself.

I really hope some Black folks will step up their game now that Obama-mania is it total effect. We are going have seriously consider our image, and where we go from here.

We can't keep having a "FUCK YOU" attitude. There's a larger picture at work here.

It ain't about (just) Obama.
It's about US and how we handle his success.

We can't be running around, selfishly acting the fool and shit.
This is a new paradigm.

Obama's success is about our bettering communities and ourselves.

And we may not get another chance for a long-ASS time.

This definately going to shape up to a good post!
Plain fact... if you think for one moment that the type of blacks that were just described in this post will shape up because of Obama, you will be sadly mistakened.
Most of them would be totally unable to even tell you who the vice presidental running mate was.... or even care.
Many have arrived at a place of total ignorance. And have no desire to improve themselves. Its a combination of a failed nation state and an unadulturated surrender of their morals and values. Many don't have anything to loose and are bitter with their situation and plight in society and act in a manner condusive to this. How many times have I seen triffilings, leave a trail of fucking chicken bones in front of my crib, or just drop their food containers, wine bottles and whatever else, as soon as they are done with it?
I've witnessed this slow demise over a period of time, and if it gets any worst than what it already is, it would be a total tradegy.
 
If i'm alone in my thinking/feeling, then so be it...but the rap music/lyrics, the clothes, the gold grills, the bright red weaves, the violence, all the dudes sitting around mooching off of their mothers and baby moms, not working, spending all of their money on weed, video games and clothes - the whole 9...I'm just getting sick of it...

if people want to call that self hatred - so be it. but I'm officially done with it. and before cats get on me....I'm not from the suburbs, been living around this shit my whole life.

People always talk about UNCLE TOMS/SELLOUTS and the black middle class not doing enough or whatever...truth be told when its all said and done - if it weren't for people like Barack Obama, Oprah, and fuck it - Condie Rice and Colin Powell, we'd be nothing but a bunch of THESE running around:


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NOT all rappers are the same. Don't fall for the gimmicky stuff on radio to mislead you sir.
Talib Kwali
ROOTS,
Little Brother
etc.........
But I see your point but still... I mean I don't subscribe to that lifestyle myself of the above photos.
Don't Forget WILL I .AM is known hip hop artist/producer that made a song for OBAMA featuring John Legend.


Join a mentorship program for these young folks like Big Brother program to mentor them
 
You're absolutely right, I would check a white person in a minute, just like I'd smack the shit out of you for saying some shit to my sister that I could say to her, or my cousin, or my homie I've known since 4th grade. There are somethings that I can say to me peeps that you can't, and vice versa.

I love how dumb niggaz like you get on me for saying nigga, while at the same time this motherfucker
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can say whatever he wants about Jews because he's a Jew.

And this motherfucker
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can say what he wants about his people, because he's Mexican.

Even women call each other bitches all the time. Yet, whenever a Black man uses his privilege as a Black man to communicate with his brother in a way that others can't, then it's a problem for White people and house niggaz like you.

I'll speak for Huey Newton, Bobby Seal, The Last Poets, Gil-Scott Heron, and all the real niggaz out there and tell you to eat a dick.



Exactly, I'm from the hood, and I work for a charity. Do I wear baggy jeans, Afro and Jordans? Yeah. But my job allows me to, so I'm actually designing games and literature for kids and people to help them learn how to be involved in the community. I bet you I'm doing more in my community than Sir Woods and all those other coons in this thread, even though I dress the way I do. I've probably met more Black leaders and icons in my short life, than most of these idiots have seen on TV in their lives. I've been in the game since I was a kid, starting out with the Nation, who enlightened me to get involved in politics and my community.

But I guess because I don't wear a suit everyday, I'm just a dumb ass nigga.



Who??? Who are these Black people calling Obama a sell-out? I had the privilege to be in at an Obama rally last night, in one of the most notorious ghettos in America, watching grown men and women crying their eyes out looking at Michelle and Barack Obama. If you were to come to any hood in Amerikkka and say anything bad about either one of them, you'd get shot. Just stay in whatever suburb you live in and shut the fuck up. Don't speak for us.



And if you knew you issues, then you'd know that "Niggaz" are made not born. "Niggaz" have been made by the bad schools that come from the deprivation of money in the inner-cities. "Niggaz" have been made by the ghetto. "Niggaz" have been made by the cops who sell drugs in our community, while at the same time, harrassing old ladies and little kids. "Niggaz" have been made by a drug war that saw it's own government ship all the jobs out of the inner cities, then ship drugs into our communities, then use Black people as the scapegoat, while locking up millions of fathers, brothers, and cousins, who weren't there to raise the next generation of Black leaders.

You Larry Elder sounding ass niggaz make me sick.

Huey, Malcolm, The Black Panthers would spit in you house niggaz' faces.



Exactly, as do I. My job is actually to deal with people "in the hood" and I actually work for Obama in a indirect way, so I've spoken to a ton of people. I even had to suffer through some nigga who was high as fuck last night, who kept telling me, "That's the next president of the USA, right chea!!!" and everybody was lookin' like "Oh God", but he was proud as fuck. Young nigga rockin' a Carolina jersey

People are more excited about this than anything in the history of existence, even moreso than the OJ verdict. It's like Hip-Hop doesn't even exist right now, where I come from.

So, you outside niggaz, who either used to live in the hood, or live in the burbs, but claim to know a few niggaz in the hood, stop lyin' on us. Do not put your issues on us.



Who? You must not live in Amerikkka or something, or at least in the hood or around Black people.



It's not about "complaining" it's not as simple as baseball. Hell, right now, all the Black players like Gary Sheffield, Kenny Lofton, and Barry Bonds are complaining about how shit hasn't changed all that much in baseball. They're saying they're still trying to keep "us" out, so that might be a bad example.

Will there be more Blacks in politics? Yes, but that was never the problem. How does Obama being president automatically restore the tax-bases, home equity, schools, and social services of every Black city in Amerikkka? Those are the things that have kicked out ass, not that a bunch of lazy ass niggaz just don't wanna do right. The worst educated come from the worst schools and the poorest cities. That has absolutely nothing to do with a Black man being president or not. Unless you're gonna raise all of us in Hawaii or in racially accepting places like that or send us all to private schools, then to Harvard, it's a completely moot point that somebody like Larry Elder or Armstrong Williams would make. Michelle Obama's story is closer to ours than Barack's is. Barack's story will probably never be equalled and achieved again, just because of how weird it is.



EXACTLY!!!

John McCain just came from a motorcycle biker weekend at Sturgis, where he pondered aloud if he should enter his wife into one of those redneck beauty pageants where women strip and shit. John McCain's embracing the rednecks and country audience, because he's making the pitch that he's not above anybody, even those meth-head, rocked out bikers in South Dakota.

But once again, elitist ass niggaz wanna find a way to exclude the poorest and least educated and most effected by institutional racism to make their case to "massa" of how special they are.



Are you kidding me? His grandparents, who were not poor raised him and the only time he was really raised by his mother, he lived in Indonesia. How many Black people you know story's sound like that?

I aint grow up in Hawaii or Indonesia. Did anybody you know????

Going to private schools like Punahou School, which is one of the best schools in Amerikkka, from 5th grade up until he graduated from High-school is not the life that your average kid from Detroit leads. Stop trying to make his story everybody elses. It's not. Nobody said that he didn't have a father. Hell, Biggie Smalls' kids don't have a father, but that don't mean that they live in Bed Stuy does it? A lot of people don't have a father, who aren't from the hood. It doesn't take away from his accomplishments, but stop trying to make it seem like he's from Compton or something. If he was from Compton, chances are, he wouldn't be where he's at. It's just fact.



First off, Marvin Harrison is known as one of the least "hood" dudes in all of sports, so that makes your point really stupid. And yes, Barack's struggle is a different struggle. Hawaii is not Compton, nor has it ever been. It's not Detroit. It's not Gary. It's not Washington D.C. in the 1980s. It's not the same. Nobody saying he's not Black, just that his story is pretty unlikely to ever be duplicated by anybody who's father wasn't a "goat-herder" from kenya and who's mother was from Kansas, but then moved to the most racially diverse and open places in America, then moved to Jakarta Indonesia, where they received lessons in another language, and then moved back to Hawaii, and then was accepted to one of the best most open minded schools in Amerikkka in 5th grade, and then experimented with drugs and alcohol, and then went to Columbia University, and on to Harvard.

If all these things happen in this exact sequence, then you too can be Barack Obama.

Nobody's said you can't be successful from the hood. There's too many people who are, who's life stories are way closer to most Black people than this guys. That doesn't make him any less Black, just that his life story is way, way, way more interesting and different than most Americans.


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Nigga you are so stupid and lost!!! I hate you fuck'n pussies that want to blame all our problems on someone else!

1) You say Niggas have been made by bad schools, I know plenty of black scholars who have come out of "bad schools"! Explain how they made it? so your full of shit bitch!

2)You say niggas have been made by the ghetto, Wake up you dumb nigga, it's MAJORITY 99% of black people killing black people that make the ghetto the ghetto

3) you say niggas have been made by the cops who sell drugs in our community.:hmm: SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Aint nobody on corners in our communities selling drugs to our people but our own people

Your a pussy making excuses instead of trying to help our people find a solution. Be a man you pussy!!!
 
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I'll speak for Huey Newton, Bobby Seal, The Last Poets, Gil-Scott Heron, and all the real niggaz out there and tell you to eat a dick.



Exactly, I'm from the hood




So, you outside niggaz, who either used to live in the hood, or live in the burbs, but claim to know a few niggaz in the hood, stop lyin' on us. Do not put your issues on us.



I love how you stereotype black people in the "hood" :smh:

As if everyone thinks and acts like you. As if people in the hood are one monolith :smh:

And the negativity as if people in the hood can't achieve shit :smh:

What sort of background did Oprah come from? Colin Powell? Reginald Lewis? Dr Marc Lamont Hill?

I wonder if Jewish people look at Jewish people who are half Jewish or have small noses and say they don't have the same struggle and aren't Jewish enough.

Who wants to raise their kids in the hood, yet a lot of you guys keep saying this dumb shit. :smh:

I'm from the hood...who gives a fuck. Does that make you better than Obama? Muthafuckas act like they went to Vietnam and shit. Whoa...he's from the hood. Watch out now. If what Obama went through is so easy, why hasn't it been done before? I'm sure other people made it out fine where you're from Rambo.

Too many of you muthafuckas have misplaced priorities and values. Instead of being amazed that a black man can be the first to be head of the Harvard Law Review and the first black presidential nominee. You all talk about well he ain't from the hood. He didn't have the same struggle. What you want all black people to be poor, come from drug addicted parents and shit? Would that satisfy you? Would you accept him then? Would he have a hood pass :hmm:
 
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It's sad as fuck that such an inspirational moment is being used to attack black people.

Let's use this moment and build ourselves up. Maybe we might start thinking more highly of ourselves. What the hell is the purpose of this thread?

A black man might be president and inspire so many of us to see what we can really achieve, and dudes wanna go around shitting on everything and everyone instead of building.

Nothing but a bunch of people with delusions of grandeur who wanna talk shit...
 
It's sad as fuck that such an inspirational moment is being used to attack black people.

- I wish yall would stop saying this...this is one message board out of billions online, and one message out of even more billions than that...the impact this little discussion is having won't be felt by anyone anywhere except for you mofoes reading it. stop being so dramatic.

and yes, this was a monumental moment for BLACK PEOPLE and other americans of all races. those clowns in those pictures and those who can relate to them, could care less.
 
- I wish yall would stop saying this...this is one message board out of billions online, and one message out of even more billions than that...the impact this little discussion is having won't be felt by anyone anywhere except for you mofoes reading it. stop being so dramatic.

and yes, this was a monumental moment for BLACK PEOPLE and other americans of all races. those clowns in those pictures and those who can relate to them, could care less.

just say you hate black people and get it over with
 
In a lot of the replies in here, cats are getting caught up in the imagery. I posted pictures to just illustrate my point - there is a mentality behind the images.

what I was speaking on were the actions and the behaviors:

- all the kids out of wedlock
- the HIV/AIDS
- black males homicide rates
- every fucking hip hop track about sex/dope dealing

again, I don't care what call me or think of me, what i'm speaking on is bigger than me. I could die 2morrow and the shit i'm bitching about will still be here...

and for all of you cats screaming "WHITE PEOPLE DO IT TOO!" need to stop obsessing over white people. are they the level? the standard? because truthfully, we could look at Arab and asian americans and they'd put us ALL to shame. high scores in school, low divorce rates, hardly any children out of wedlock, low HIV/STD rates...why always so quick to compare to white people?

I had the conversation with someone yesterday. And the person made a good point. He basically said "what are niggas gonna say now? What's gonna be the excuse now if Obama wins?" It made me think. A lot of brothas get down on themselves thinking the world is against them. And their feelings are justified... to an extent. But when Obama gets in, will brothas still say the white man is holding them bacl? I realize it's just ONE person breaking through to the top. But I wonder if black baseball players sat on their ass and still complained once Jackie Robinson broke through, or did they have hope? Did that inspire them to try to make the majors? I'm betting it did.

How the fuck can anyone know more about fuckin Slim Thug, than they know about a black man who has a legit chance at becoming president?

Misplaced priorities :smh:

Dog; I'll have to co-sign with you on this..I admit, I've been feeling the similar way lately..By no means is that "Self-Hatred", regardless of what others want to say.

There comes a time where you get SICK & TIRED of the bullshit...

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/kpUSElgJcyI[/FLASH]

PREACH MY BROTHAS PREACH....

next this is not self hating...and stop comparing us to whites they are not the standard...they try to force their way of thinking on us and everybody else that does not look like them....

I have had close friends killed...shot down like a damn dog for nothing more than a verbal argument or a look...so if we lying plz let lightning strike me now...

the #1 killer of young black adults is MURDER from another brotha...incarceration rates..drop outs rates...poverty rates...out of wed lock children rates...why?!...

I won't lie and say that its the media bullshitting cuz I do think these rates are inflated...but as a cat that was raised in BROOKLYN PJ's I saw it...experienced it...

they are more cats that I grew up with in jail...having no jobs...multiple kids than they are in COLLEGE....

I saw more pregnant sista's in H/S than any other race....I knew at 13 yrs old who was the dope boy's...who body this nigga saturday night...why is this acceptable...

we had to sleep on the floor or in the tub every damn friday or saturday night cuz niggas were shooting at eachother or into the air outside our 1st floor windw....

I love my ppl...you damn right I do....and i'm not saying this is all of us...or that white's and latins don't engage in ignorant shit....nor i'm I saying 3 piece suit wearing cats ain't killing and raping.....

I'm just saying some of us need to get our shit 2gether...I lived in a poor ass hood...we were all poor...why you trying to kill and destroy the same ppl that are struggling with you....

shit I went back to my block just to visit and its not a warm welcoming...my sister told me a homegirl from way back told her "you think you better than us just cuz you went to college ..."

we need to do better....

did you see the vid on the 1st page about hoodrats....come on fam....its just sad what some of our ppl are doing....:(:smh:
 
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OP's a major coon. it's deep with this nigga.

and complex.

amerikka's idol, fjp, y'all need to stop wastin the keystrokes, these dudes aint tryin to hear u and are possibly nordic. when people skirt the issues and avoid direct questions posed to them, they're not tryin 2 obtain the truth. they're trying 2 forward their agenda and put other people unda massa's spell. sorry douchebaggz, not 2day. this is one of those posts that really brings the house niggaz out though.

complex, you're an idiot. p&s.

sirwoodz, good luck. fuckin idiot.
 
^^^ my thing is that it's one thing to have these problems and then say "okay let's fix them"....

BUT WE CELEBRATE THEM!!! YOU CAN GET A PAT ON THE BACK FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID WAS "WRONG" WITH US!!!


How do you fix problems that most people think A) are someone elses fault (the militant blacks) or B) don't exist, or they are having a blast doing...

it's virtually impossible.
 
I often wish that the black community of today modeled the black community of the past. From talking to older individuals,and researching history, it seem as though african americans were more unifieded in the past. That unification came about due to the issues that they faced in the past (unequal treatment, racism, dicriminatory laws, etc). These elements forced our people to come together. Now we're a community divided, with HIV, violence, inept education systems, and poverty plaguing inner city neighborhoods. Shouldn't these factors be enough to bring us together so we can rid ourselves of these issues?
 
this is one of those posts that really brings the house niggaz out though.

Of all days to pose this topic BGOL, we have to ask ourselves why on a day like today? You have to understand people that just as there is a segment of our population who is good for nothing, lazy, and fits the bill of all the negative stereotypes. There is also a segment of our population who wishes they were white (although they would never openly admit it), who see "white approval" as "success", and has a strong lust for dainty white women. These blacks are very toxic to our community and have psychologically accepted that distancing themselves from all things black is a means of gaining self worth and pride. Just as "niggas" exist, so do "uncle tom house niggas"
 
OP's a major coon. it's deep with this nigga.

and complex.

amerikka's idol, fjp, y'all need to stop wastin the keystrokes, these dudes aint tryin to hear u and are possibly nordic. when people skirt the issues and avoid direct questions posed to them, they're not tryin 2 obtain the truth. they're trying 2 forward their agenda and put other people unda massa's spell. sorry douchebaggz, not 2day. this is one of those posts that really brings the house niggaz out though.

complex, you're an idiot. p&s.

sirwoodz, good luck. fuckin idiot.

Bitch, my dick size is higher than your IQ

You blame whitey muthafuckas are part of the problem with our communities.
 
will one of you oh-so-wise black nationalists please explain how someone who is oppose to high HIV rates, 7 out of 10 of our children being born to single mothers = wanting to be white?

and when I see asians, africans, indians (arabs), all sitting down at business meetings wearing SUITS AND TIES transacting business, they all use their native DIALECT when speaking, but they don't get in there using slang and profanities...are these people "acting white?" or could it be what so many of you cats consider to be "wanting to be white" is simply the global model for success and has absolutely NOTHING to do with wanting to be "WHITE" at all..

think for yourselves. i promise it won't kill you.
 
before i accuse you likely melanin-free muhfuccas....

what do any of you do to combat this? my assumption is nothin, given the fact that you obviously detest the people you're talking about...but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt 4 a sec.

not really much to say after amerikkkas idols post but you gotta break shit down for dumb muhfuccas...

2 u douche nozzles who agree with the OP: does every race/culture not have a lower economic class that is generally less educated? you black nazi muhfuckas would have these people burned if you could. i mean shit, you're doin it with your message anyway. but we're lost. gimme a fuckin break. it always fascinated me that the white power structure is able to push this crap THAT deep into otherwise (maybe) intelligent brotha's brains.

they danglin that watch like sidney poitier and y'all jimmy walker ass coonz be roundhouse punchin your brothers out the window...
 
before i accuse you likely melanin-free muhfuccas....

what do any of you do to combat this? my assumption is nothin, given the fact that you obviously detest the people you're talking about...but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt 4 a sec.

not really much to say after amerikkkas idols post but you gotta break shit down for dumb muhfuccas...

2 u douche nozzles who agree with the OP: does every race/culture not have a lower economic class that is generally less educated? you black nazi muhfuckas would have these people burned if you could. i mean shit, you're doin it with your message anyway. but we're lost. gimme a fuckin break. it always fascinated me that the white power structure is able to push this crap THAT deep into otherwise (maybe) intelligent brotha's brains.

they danglin that watch like sidney poitier and y'all jimmy walker ass coonz be roundhouse punchin your brothers out the window...

I detest your bitch ass, because you aren't contributing shit to this discussion. And you're probably the same way in life, and that's why you're so defensive and come in name calling. You're too fuckin stupid to understand and comprehend what people are saying. Get your head out of your ass bitch ass muthafucka. The only person who detest you is your family.
 
and there y'all go again talkin all loud about shit ain't nobody else even said. you can't hear what anybody else is sayin cuz you out there wit all that empty rah-rah. avoidin the issues.

if you would shut up and follow a few logical thought processes out to the end, i'm sure you'd arrive at some absolute truth. you don't have to believe us...but just use your fuckin brain. it'll make you feel better about yourself, i swear.

again, good luck. to all you brainwashed cockfannz, that is.
 
Shouldn't these factors be enough to bring us together so we can rid ourselves of these issues?

You assume we all want to be together. Some of us have accepted the view that black represents everything negative in the world and black means "judge by the lowest common denominator". In Jim Crow Era those of us who felt that way had no choice but to live and socialize amongst the entire group, but as soon as laws were put in place for integration, some of us couldnt wait to prove to the anglo saxon how different we are from the rest of those niggas.
 
complex google the term "projection" as it relates to the field of psycology

muhfuckas like you are dangerously ignorant. the ones who don't realize how detrimental they are to the movement they fractionally understand a lil bit sometimes kinda. u talkin bout dick size but you hate niggas. i could go there with you easy as i can tell you're bout a what, 50W soft white (edit:<<<not 2 bright, before i make your head explode...)...but lets try being constructive. jackass.

ask me and i'll tell you, howz that for contributing? (i usually charge, take advantage...)
 
and there y'all go again talkin all loud about shit ain't nobody else even said. you can't hear what anybody else is sayin cuz you out there wit all that empty rah-rah. avoidin the issues.

if you would shut up and follow a few logical thought processes out to the end, i'm sure you'd arrive at some absolute truth. you don't have to believe us...but just use your fuckin brain. it'll make you feel better about yourself, i swear.

again, good luck. to all you brainwashed cockfannz, that is.

Avoiding issues?

Talking all loud? WTF?

Are you a fuckin down syndrome baby? Was your mom on crack? Are you hearing voices in your head?

You aren't saying shit. You aren't shit. And you probably smell like shit too. Shut the fuck up bitch ass muthafucka. Go crawl back in to the box you came out of.
 
complex google the term "projection" as it relates to the field of psycology

muhfuckas like you are dangerously ignorant. the ones who don't realize how detrimental they are to the movement they fractionally understand a lil bit sometimes kinda. u talkin bout dick size but you hate niggas. i could go there with you easy as i can tell you're bout a what, 50W soft white...but lets try being constructive. jackass.

ask me and i'll tell you, howz that for contributing? (i usually charge, take advantage...)

First of all bitch muthafucka. I don't even use the N word. Never have, and anyone who knows me knows that shit. I think of my people better than that.

Second, bitch muthaucka. I never agreed with the OP. I just understood part of the point he was making and tried to clarify it. See, that happens when you're intelligent and you can comprehend. My problem was the comments based around Obama. If you have half a brain you'd understand what I was referring too.

And To be ignorant, means I don't know. And word is bond on my muthafuckin life, I know more than you ever will. That's why my level of discussion is greater than calling someone a coon. That's why I can see where both sides are coming from. That's why I realize that both trains of thought are detrimental to black people.

Fourth, fuck the constructive shit. You killed that shit when you said my name in your first post.

You're a bitch ass muthafucka. Fuck you.
 
Every time someone make a critique about black folx that’s fuckin up or doing nothing but being a burden on society, people come out with the same old excuses/arguments.

1> You hate black people.

Yeah, I hate black people so much that I want them to do better? FOH. I am tried of black folx who are fuckin up & clearly that’s not all black folx. These are usually the same black folx who are murdering, assaulting, robbing, raping, using other black folx. The funny thing is the same folx callin out the black people who are sick of the bullshyt defend black folx who prey on other black folx as if no black folx ever do shyt wrong. FOH

2> but but but what about white people? They be fuckin up too!

Uh, what about them? This has shit to do with white people. I ain’t white. I care about black folx and this is about certain black folx who don’t want to be productive and/or choose to be criminals.

3> The reason is slavery or any excuse to blame white folx..

FOH. I mean really.. FOH. We’re never gonna fix black folx fuckin up if we keep lying about & blaming folx for the shyt WE do. Mafuckas gotta be accountable for their own behavior, period. Fools rollin around terrorizing the neighbor ain’t got shyt to do with white folx.

4> All black ppl ain’t like that?

Really? No shyt? We know that. We’re the ones tired of the fools that fuckin up.
 
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You assume we all want to be together. Some of us have accepted the view that black represents everything negative in the world and black means "judge by the lowest common denominator". In Jim Crow Era those of us who felt that way had no choice but to live and socialize amongst the entire group, but as soon as laws were put in place for integration, some of us couldnt wait to prove to the anglo saxon how different we are from the rest of those niggas.

That is true my brotha, and that's what saddens me about the black community. Sure we have our faults, but what race doesn't? If I was given the opportunity to choose what race I could be, I would choose to be black again ,and again. It's nothing better. I feel that we as a people have so much talent and potential, but we're so divided. If we all came together as a whole, imagine the possibilities?
 
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EXACTLY. Alot of these niggas think Obama gonna get elected and he just gonna press a magic button and VOILAAAA!! the Black community is fixed. These same cats talking about they hate niggas aint never handed out as much as an application. If you so smart, are u too good to teach another brother? Or are you so insecure that you feel that if you teach another brother what you know, he may apply it different and ascend to greater levels than you have?

You cats aint following Obama, Obama is preaching unity and upliftment, you niggas are preaching separation and segregation. It starts at home.

Here’s some real talk. If black folx did what Barack & Michelle did.

1> Go to school, apply yourself & get some skills.
2> Wait until your married & have careers until you have children.

Most of the problems would be fixed overnight. Obama can’t press a magic button fix everything. However, what he can do is give us a CLEAR example of how they can also be successful. However, all of these noise makers who are enabling black folx to keep fuckin up need to find a way to keep their hustling going or folx who want to continue to fuel grievance as a justification for failure need to keep claiming white folx are stopping black folx from achieving any level of success. And for the record, you can’t help folx who refuse help, refuse education, refuse to work, etc. I have helped plenty of people but there are some who don't want do do shyt & we gotta quit acting like everyone who ain't got shyt never hand anyone try to put them on the path to success. That's absolute bullshyt.



do you really expect for the whole race to be perfect?

do you really expect for everybody to act the same way and share the same values?

would you like to live in a society like
EQUILIBRIUM?

C'mon brah, the shyt we're seeing in the hood is GETTING WORSE, not better. No one expects perfections but we got to many kids outta wedlock, young men in prison, dropouts, etc.. The problems are mounting. We gotta do better.
 
Every time someone make a critique about black folx that’s fuckin up or doing nothing but being a burden on society, people come out with the same old excuses/arguments.

1> You hate black people.

Yeah, I hate black people so much that I want them to do better? FOH. I am tried of black folx who are fuckin up & clearly that’s not all black folx. These are usually the same black folx who are murdering, assaulting, robbing, raping, using other black folx. The funny thing is the same folx callin out the black people who are sick of the bullshyt defend black folx who prey on other black folx as if no black folx ever do shyt wrong. FOH

2> but but but what about white people? They be fuckin up too!

Uh, what about them? This has shit to do with white people. I ain’t white. I care about black folx and this is about certain black folx who don’t want to be productive and/or choose to be criminals.
3> The reason is slavery or any excuse to blame white folx..

FOH. I mean really.. FOH. We’re never gonna fix black folx fuckin up if we keep lying about & blaming folx for the shyt WE do. Mafuckas gotta be accountable for their own behavior, period. Fools rollin around terrorizing the neighbor ain’t got shyt to do with white folx.

4> All black ppl ain’t like that?

Really? No shyt? We know that. We’re the ones tired of the fools that fuckin up.

to all the posters sayin we hate our own...

here is your truth....
 
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