Jesus muthafucken christ
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Molecule Man.
Nate Grey at full power
Adam Warlock in full Magus mode with soul gem
or, back in the 70's before your time, Carey Bates was a writer for DC that made earth prime, Our earth. Because he was from Earth prime, he could do anything in the world of comics.
follow the link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Prime
In the world of comics, he was the most powerful ever and could just rewrite whatever he wanted.
I win (for being old_)
Marvel's hierarchy of Omnipotence.
Cosmic Marvel Entities
Omnipotents
One-Above-All
Living Tribunal • Nemesis
Universal Functions
Celestials • Death • Entropy • Eternity • Galactus • In-Betweener • Infinity • Lord Chaos • Master Order • Numinus • Oblivion • Phoenix
Cosmic Entities
Abraxas • Beyonders • Cosmic Cubes • Eon • Genesis • Infinites • Kronos • Proemial Gods • Stranger • Watchers
Yes, they are (as are many others below them)
But it's not about immortality, it's about omnipotence.
all right guy here it is, me and my boy(who is a comic book vet) were burning out today(as usual) and we had a serious discussion about which comic character ,in the MARVEL or DC universe, has the ultimate supremacy....meaning which character can not lose........
We shot the shit back and forth for a while and it basically came down to Marvel characters....Hulk was tossed around, Sentry came up, and of course Phoenix.......
In the end Phoenix was ruled top dog-------we concluded she is basically a god---nothing can stop her, but herself(ie. the person who phoenix possessed)
Phoenix can turn you into molecules, atoms or a hippo, or a cat or puppy......she can do anything her mind wants...WE FELT THAT SHE REIGNS SUPREME
now I'm not trying to have an internet war here, but that was our conclusion....if someone knows of a better character in any universe please let me know(and if you have a link to the character please post it)
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Ok, I can go with this one....The Phoenix Force is an immortal and mutable manifestation of the prime universal force of life and passion. Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. It is the nexus of all psionic energy which does, has, and ever will exist in all realities of the omniverse, the Guardian of Creation, and of the dangerously powerful M'Kraan Crystal.
The Phoenix is among the most feared beings in the entire existence — having the power to cut and re-grow any part of the universe, as well as destroy it entirely, which is part of the Phoenix's purpose: "The Judgment of the Phoenix", to burn away the obsolete. The Phoenix Force is described as being "the embodiment of the very passion of Creation – the spark that gave life to the Universe, the flame that will ultimately consume it."
...and the conclusion is - Nobody gives a fuck!
Goodnight!
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phoenix itsselfOk, I can go with this one....
Sometimes you gotta distinguish - like do you mean Jean Grey/Phoenix - or the Phoenix entity itself.
easily the phoenix
read this shit and make an argument against it
http://marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force
an excerpt
Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. In the dying moments of the previous universe, the Force saved all existence from eternal damnation, enabling Eternity to preserve the humanoid Galan, ensuring his re-creation as Galactus. The Force was subsequently reborn from the cosmic fires of the “Big Bang.” Later, it encountered the malevolent Le Bete Noir and trapped it in the center of a still-cooling planet Earth.
C'mon son
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SO IF PHOENIX CAN TAKE OUT GALACTUS, AND GALACTUS CAN TAKE OUT CELESTIAL-----AT WHAT POINT ON THE LIST DOES PHOENIX GET BEAT----IF SHE'S NOT TOP DOG, THEN WHAT NUMBER 4 OR 5??????????????
She's probably in the 6 range. There are some Celestials that are more powerful than others. Anything above 6 and she's going to have a difficult time.
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The Phoenix battles and defeats a malnourished Galactus. Art by Alan Davis.
During an encounter with Galactus, Rachel Summers—at the time completely overtaken by the Phoenix Force—battled Galactus in an effort to save a planet he was preparing to devour.[12] The Phoenix Force disrupted Galactus' feeding process and thus was able to eventually defeat the depleted world devourer in battle. Galactus accused the Phoenix Force of hypocrisy and revealed to it that every time it exercised its powers on such vast scales, it robbed energy used to birth future generations. Realizing this to be true, the Phoenix vowed never again to use its powers to such an extent.
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no one has ever faced Galactus at full power, so no one has ever truly defeated him
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and the phoenix force answers to the living tribunal
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Jesus muthafucken christ
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PHOENIX POWERS
Powers and abilities
The Phoenix Force has the ability to manipulate cosmic energies and to tap into the life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. It can wield this energy to project beams of immense destructive force. It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole and then reform itself upon reaching its destination. It can directly absorb energy such as Cyclops' optic blasts or even the entire energy of a sun. It is also capable of absorbing the energy and life-force from a foe. As it is the nexus of all psionic energy, it has mental abilities of cosmic scope, including telepathy and telekinesis. Often the Phoenix seeks out hosts who have strong inherent psionic abilities so they can withstand its power, such as that of Emma Frost who could not bear the burden of Phoenix' hunger for human emotion when it bonded with her. [4] When the Phoenix Force enters a host, a small fragment of it's power is left behind when it leaves. Even a small fragment can be stronger than an inexperienced host using the Phoenix Force's powers, as seen by Rachel Summers, who had full access to the Force, but her opponent threw moons at her with only a fragment (the Phoenix Force decided to not interfere with mortal beings and only allowed Rachel to tap into the Force's powers at that time). When bonded with a host, the Phoenix Force amplifies their abilities to incalculable levels. It can manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level and transmute elements (e.g., turning wood to gold, stone to crystal, etc). It can teleport others across space and can also open intradimensional portals to instantneously access distant locales of the Universe. If the Phoenix Force is harmed or killed, it will form an "egg" of cosmic power, incubate in the White Hot Room, and hatch out completely healed. Also being one of the oldest cosmic beings the Phoenix Force possesses a degree of cosmic awareness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(comics)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHATS FUCKIN WITH THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually it was Thanos when he stole the Heart of the Universe and destroyed the Universe and everything in it. He found it was not natural and decided to restore it and destroy the Heart of the Universe. That would leave The Living Tribunal as the most powerful.
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List of his power:
Powers
The Living Tribunal possesses limitless power, able to erase whole realities from existence.
Alternate Universes
The Living Tribunal is omniversal and exists in every reality at once.
Link to more info Here
i hope your joking about the what ifs less i remind you that LT was defeated by Korvac in the what if who is not as strong as eternity or at least as strong but not stronger
LT - Is a cosmic entity that governs all of the muliti -verse to maintain a balance of order as it see fit.
PF- Is a cosmic entity that can bring out the destruction, and recreation at a multi - verse scale level as it sees fit.
According to X-men Forever during each creation cycle LT and the abstracts get replaced by an evolved humanity. Phoenix is the force which co-ordinates and fuels this process and it keeps the creation cycle going on forever Big Bang after Big Bang. While the abstracts are reflections of the universe and their roles can be usurped and re-allocated at any time during the creation cycle (as we've been shown previously on panel via the IG saga for example) Phoenix is a constant throughout.
i hope your joking about the what ifs less i remind you that LT was defeated by Korvac in the what if who is not as strong as eternity or at least as strong but not stronger
LT - Is a cosmic entity that governs all of the muliti -verse to maintain a balance of order as it see fit.
PF- Is a cosmic entity that can bring out the destruction, and recreation at a multi - verse scale level as it sees fit.
According to X-men Forever during each creation cycle LT and the abstracts get replaced by an evolved humanity. Phoenix is the force which co-ordinates and fuels this process and it keeps the creation cycle going on forever Big Bang after Big Bang. While the abstracts are reflections of the universe and their roles can be usurped and re-allocated at any time during the creation cycle (as we've been shown previously on panel via the IG saga for example) Phoenix is a constant throughout.
the phoenix aint shit because xmen has got their asses kicked so many times and that bitch didn't do shit with all tha powers
Dude your arguing against the same motherfuckers who said Batman would off Superman![]()
i dont care if supes was autistic he is SUPERman one punch done deal use common senseHe could and most Comic Book Writers Agree. Bats pays Chess, Supes Pays Checkers.
But WONDER WOMAN could OFF them BOTH because shes not only as Strong as Superman, Shes as good of a fighter as Batman.
i dont care if supes was autistic he is SUPERman one punch done deal use common sense
But Superman would never hit a Human that hard unless he was under the effect of RED KRYPTONITE.
This ain't all about strength, this is mostly about strategy and psychology.
Most would agree that Gun is more Powerful than a Sword but a Navy Seal cant beat no NINJA.
True...... but that's only, ONLY, because Superman would never kill. I don't care what Bat-fanboys say, fact is fact - Superman could off Batman in more ways than Bats could get at him... Read JLA Earth 2, when a dude starts complaining about the money that the Crime Syndicate(evil mirror version of the JLA) was thrown out was counterfeit, dude got vaporized - by Ultraman(evil Superman) - from all the way in fuckin' orbit. then Supes might, might, could dost enough of his X-ray vision to give Bats or any human being, cancer - mind you this just a theory but still.....He could and most Comic Book Writers Agree. Bats pays Chess, Supes Pays Checkers.
But WONDER WOMAN could OFF them BOTH because shes not only as Strong as Superman, Shes almost as good of a fighter as Batman... And shes willing to KILL.