Sure...nope doesn't have that!!!
Also THIS, is the reply you give??? ALL the other shyt I said and THIS is the response you reply to?!?!? Lets just agree to disagree or whatever the fcuk you're talking about!
Tesla’s new Robovan
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Also THIS, is the reply you give??? ALL the other shyt I said and THIS is the response you reply to?!?!? Lets just agree to disagree or whatever the fcuk you're talking about!
Bruh, I am disappointed in myself for arguing with you about FSD and you literally don't know what FSD (Full Self Driving) is. I really need to value my time and energy more.
Okay man, take it easy!
Tell elton musk that.
Get where you trying to go, but Uber is basically a taxi service. It didn't take much for people to trust in it. Maybe as a driver, but i don't see it from a customer point of view. In Baltimore, people still get into strangers cars to get around. As a kid in DC, people would have people drive them home from grocery stores. The innovation was the software used to connect the customer to the driver; not so much trusting the driver/customer.
As for FSD I haven't used it in years, but one of the main problems was the car not behaving like a human would. If every car used FSD it probably wouldn't matter but we aren't there yet. Then it would stop working going under overpass or the rain. As it stands, I would trust it enough if I really needed the system and could over ride it. However, I don't trust it without a wheel and definitely not in high volume traffic.
To be fair, I haven't used it recently, so it could be better at adapting to human drivers and the rain/snow. The self parking has improved but it still takes longer than a human would in most cases.
There is an autonomous vehicle taxi company that is currently operating in San Francisco. The company is called Waymo and it has a demand. I am very confident that people will use autonomous taxis when they are proven statistically safer than human drivers. Tesla’s method of autonomy will be much cheaper and safer than Waymo. I have Full Self Driving and it has gotten to the point where I trust it over 10 miles. It keeps improving too.
I'm aware of Waymo and from my understanding their approach is different than Tesla. I believe Waymo has been testing or operating for years yet I don't believe it's expanded. Is it just the technology, people trusting it, regulations or a combination of reasons preventing it from expanding. I don't know, but unlike Tesla vehicles I believe Waymo vehicles can actually operate in the rain.
The fact that you mentioned ten miles kind of supports what I'm saying. Off hand, I work 20 odd miles from my home. According to you, you wouldn't trust the current version to get me to work safely.
I didn't pay attention to the recent events to know when the robotaxi was supposedly dropping. What I do know is Elon has a habit of not meeting deadlines. People who bought the Roster are still waiting. Full autonomous driving was supposed to happen years ago by his initial timeline. I can't say how far away we are from true autonomous vehicles. I'll just compare it to VR gaming. Nintendo dropped the Virtual Boy in the mid 90s. We are just getting decent VR headsets in the last few years. It may take full autonomous vehicles another 10 to 20 years to be used the way Elon would like. It's not just the technology, but the government at large allowing it. In my opinion, it's partly why Elon has sided with Trump in hopes that he'll win the election. AI has advanced alot, so maybe some years are cut off from a technology standpoint.
Tesla is taking a completely different approach. Waymo uses LIDAR sensors which is similar to radar sensors. These sensors come at a cost of over 100k per vehicle. Additionally, they pay technicians to monitor each vehicle for cases that haven't been coded for yet.Prior to operating in a city, a digital model must be made which costs money and time. Waymo has operated in Phoenix and in SanFrancisco for the past 3 years. The fact that you and most people didn't know this should tell you that safety hasn't been an alarming issue.
Tesla doesn't use LIDAR. They are using Artificial Inteligence using vision. They have been collecting data from the millions of Tesla drivers over the years and using Artificial Intelligence to "think" and make the driving decisions. Tesla also uses Artificial Intelligence to "think" of millions of possible senarios and outcomes to "learn" from every possible scenario before they happen. Tesla will be cheaper and be able to expand much faster. Once Tesla is able to do this, every Tesla vehicle ever sold will be able to operate as a taxi that is much safer than Waymo. There are currently 700 Waymo vehicles total. There are over 2 million Teslas that can be taxis with a flick of a switch. Tesla is planning to let Tesla owners send our own automous vehicles out as Ubers without having to pay the drivers. Like an Uber AirBnb.
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You haven't said anything I'm not aware of. End of the day Tesla autonomous cars aren't ready for full autonomous driving. From some accounts of the event, people weren't even sure if what they were being shown was real or staged as far as the AI/Robots. The cars you give benefit of the doubt as we know they are capable of real world driving today.
I can't speak about Waymo's performance, but I know I've had to take over for Tesla’s doing something dumb or the drivers around me doing something dumb in reaction to the Tesla. This is with me being able to take over. Elon doesn't want a wheel at all. You seem to only be focused on the vehicles themselves and not factoring in human behavior around them including human traffic like bikes or walking through intersections. I've my Tesla slam on the break and almost cause an accident instead slowing down or getting out of the lane.
From the clip I saw, I'm not even sure current vehicles will even be able to be used as a taxi fleet and you still have to factor in government approval for autonomous vehicles being used without some form of human intervention.
You spoke to everything except Waymo being able to operate in bad weather. It could be drizzling or snow flurry and current Tesla’s will not allow autonomous driving with a human behind a wheel. Right now, what we have is advanced cruise control. If you only trust it for just over ten miles today, why are you champion this so hard? It's very much still in development and is more so a gimmick. Does that mean it'll never get to true autonomous level that we can trust? Of course not, but as of today we have to be honest about the current state.
