Star Wars The Last Jedi (SPOILER Discussion thread)
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I bet Finn will be simping for Rose if he sees her wearing something like this lol
the wrong sister died...
the internet has no chill
Interesting theory found on quora
Who is Snoke in Star Wars?
Michael Lawson
Answered Jan 4
I’m posting this just to see if Disney has it taken down. If It’s still here tomorrow, I was clearly wrong, because I haven’t seen this anywhere on the internet, and there’s no way I’m the first guy that thought of this:
Snoke is the darkness in Kylo Ren projected into the real world by the power of the force, just as he projects himself across the galaxy to skypesex with Rey. Just like Rey, Ben is stronger than he knows.
Ben created Snoke when he was a child to replace his parents after he was sent off to train with Luke. Leia sent him because she sensed a darkness in him she didn't know how to handle, and when she gave him up, that's when Ben turned that darkness into an imaginary
friend/alternate personality, which is Snoke.
People have speculated that Snoke is an acronym for "Sith No One Knows Exists". Well at one time that's exactly what he was. No one knew he existed except Ben for most of his life.
It explains how Snoke was taunting Ben since childhood without anyone ever noticing.
It's the reason Snoke constantly torments and belittles Ben to this day.
It's the reason Snoke projects himself many times larger than he actually is. And the reason he himself is projected as much taller than Ben.
It would explain why only a few people even know what Snoke looks like, and he barely allows anyone in his presence except Kylo and Hux.
It explains why Snoke is split down the middle and battered up to shit.
It explains how Snoke was powerful enough to abuse and mistreat Ben all his life yet Ben killed him easily.
It explains why Snoke could see Ben's every thought and intention, yet still looked surprised when he was made into a Snoke Kebab.
It explains why, when Snoke turned Ben, Ben remained loyal to Luke. Ben can’t actually learn anything from Snoke, he still needed Luke to grow more powerful.
It explains why Luke briefly considered killing Ben. Not out of fear. Out of compassion. To spare him the fate of living with Snoke forever. To save him from madness.
It explains why Pablo Hidalgo said there were no Sith in The Force Awakens. Neither Kylo nor Snoke is a Sith. Kylo is a sick man and Snoke is the demon on his back.
It's why Han ran away instead of fighting snoke to redeem his son, and why Luke did the same. To kill Snoke, they'd have to kill Ben.
There was only ever one person who could kill Snoke. Ben Solo. And that's exactly what he did as soon as he found someone he needed more. Rey. (it’s also a love story, btw)
Plus whenever they have one of these Bruce Willis ghost reveals, they like to put a really blatant easter egg in the first movie, and I think I know where it is in The Force Awakens.
Under Maz Kanata’s Canteena, after Rey has the lightsaber vision, when she’s talking to Maz, Maz says “Whoever you’re waiting for, they’re never coming back, but there’s someone who still could”.
Rey assumes she’s talking about Luke, but Rey suddenly hears a whisper saying something that sounds like “It’s Ben”. After which, they apparently also cut another flashback scene of Snoke talking to young Ben in the corridor at Cloud City where Luke fought Vader in Empire.
Snoke may have visited Ben in his Dreams, which is probably why Luke didn’t realize he existed until he probed Ben’s mind in his sleep. The only reason Snoke and young Ben would be at Cloud City together and nobody would know about it is if Snoke visited Ben in his dreams at first, probably showing him all the exploits of Darth Vader and the entire rise and fall of the Empire, so he’ll learn from past mistakes.
They never actually said he was super old, remember, the words they used were that he “Saw the rise and fall of the Empire”.
EDIT: I might add, this arc is made especially poignant by the fact that at least two Star Wars alums have suffered with serious mental illness.
Carrie Fisher spoke candidly, as always, about living with bipolar disorder and addiction. Jake Lloyd is a tale every Star Wars fan should know, because we basically ruined his life.
His performance as Anakin in The Phantom Menace was poorly received, and the bullying and taunting he received as a child was a disgrace. He never fully recovered, and after he was arrested in 2015, he was diagnosed with Schizophrenia and transferred to a treatment facility.
Who is Snoke in Star Wars?
Michael Lawson
Answered Jan 4
I’m posting this just to see if Disney has it taken down. If It’s still here tomorrow, I was clearly wrong, because I haven’t seen this anywhere on the internet, and there’s no way I’m the first guy that thought of this:
Snoke is the darkness in Kylo Ren projected into the real world by the power of the force, just as he projects himself across the galaxy to skypesex with Rey. Just like Rey, Ben is stronger than he knows.
Ben created Snoke when he was a child to replace his parents after he was sent off to train with Luke. Leia sent him because she sensed a darkness in him she didn't know how to handle, and when she gave him up, that's when Ben turned that darkness into an imaginary
friend/alternate personality, which is Snoke.
People have speculated that Snoke is an acronym for "Sith No One Knows Exists". Well at one time that's exactly what he was. No one knew he existed except Ben for most of his life.
It explains how Snoke was taunting Ben since childhood without anyone ever noticing.
It's the reason Snoke constantly torments and belittles Ben to this day.
It's the reason Snoke projects himself many times larger than he actually is. And the reason he himself is projected as much taller than Ben.
It would explain why only a few people even know what Snoke looks like, and he barely allows anyone in his presence except Kylo and Hux.
It explains why Snoke is split down the middle and battered up to shit.
It explains how Snoke was powerful enough to abuse and mistreat Ben all his life yet Ben killed him easily.
It explains why Snoke could see Ben's every thought and intention, yet still looked surprised when he was made into a Snoke Kebab.
It explains why, when Snoke turned Ben, Ben remained loyal to Luke. Ben can’t actually learn anything from Snoke, he still needed Luke to grow more powerful.
It explains why Luke briefly considered killing Ben. Not out of fear. Out of compassion. To spare him the fate of living with Snoke forever. To save him from madness.
It explains why Pablo Hidalgo said there were no Sith in The Force Awakens. Neither Kylo nor Snoke is a Sith. Kylo is a sick man and Snoke is the demon on his back.
It's why Han ran away instead of fighting snoke to redeem his son, and why Luke did the same. To kill Snoke, they'd have to kill Ben.
There was only ever one person who could kill Snoke. Ben Solo. And that's exactly what he did as soon as he found someone he needed more. Rey. (it’s also a love story, btw)
Plus whenever they have one of these Bruce Willis ghost reveals, they like to put a really blatant easter egg in the first movie, and I think I know where it is in The Force Awakens.
Under Maz Kanata’s Canteena, after Rey has the lightsaber vision, when she’s talking to Maz, Maz says “Whoever you’re waiting for, they’re never coming back, but there’s someone who still could”.
Rey assumes she’s talking about Luke, but Rey suddenly hears a whisper saying something that sounds like “It’s Ben”. After which, they apparently also cut another flashback scene of Snoke talking to young Ben in the corridor at Cloud City where Luke fought Vader in Empire.
Snoke may have visited Ben in his Dreams, which is probably why Luke didn’t realize he existed until he probed Ben’s mind in his sleep. The only reason Snoke and young Ben would be at Cloud City together and nobody would know about it is if Snoke visited Ben in his dreams at first, probably showing him all the exploits of Darth Vader and the entire rise and fall of the Empire, so he’ll learn from past mistakes.
They never actually said he was super old, remember, the words they used were that he “Saw the rise and fall of the Empire”.
EDIT: I might add, this arc is made especially poignant by the fact that at least two Star Wars alums have suffered with serious mental illness.
Carrie Fisher spoke candidly, as always, about living with bipolar disorder and addiction. Jake Lloyd is a tale every Star Wars fan should know, because we basically ruined his life.
His performance as Anakin in The Phantom Menace was poorly received, and the bullying and taunting he received as a child was a disgrace. He never fully recovered, and after he was arrested in 2015, he was diagnosed with Schizophrenia and transferred to a treatment facility.
As much as I’m still not a fan of this movie, THIS is an interesting theory. It could also be used to explain the Jedi that are willing to be struck down to become one with the force. (Obi-Wan, and Luke in particular). Perhaps they realize that the true power lies in the ability to exist ethereally, interacting with individuals through their minds.
It would explain why Obi-Wan said what he said to Vader about striking him down, and why Luke said something similar to Kylo. Maybe Luke realizes the only way to reach Kylo is through his mind. I’ll give this movie more credit if what this guy wrote turns out to be true, or at least close to the truth.
It could also open up endless possibilities in the next film. Maybe Snoke comes back, which is how it’s revealed to the audience, and he and Luke do have the battle that most were gearing up for; just in the ethereal realm. Again, interesting theory. We shall see.
I've been re-watching this at home and (to me) it plays a lot better at the house. Maybe because I was tired when I went to see it and nodded off in theater several times. lol
My 2nd and 3rd viewing really helped me appreciate the nuances of the movie, even the casino scenes.
About time..
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40 minutes in and I’m thoroughly bored and the shit is far too jokey...I understand a well-placed joke here and there but every other line is on some try to be funny shit...shit kicked off w/ a mom joke? really??? I was so excited to see this movie too and thought cats was just being dickheads by being too critical...I’ll finish it but it feels like I’m forcing it
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I’m actually finish this flick another day...I’m getting the same disappointing feeling I got when I watched rogue one...coincidentally I rewatched that on fri. and still felt it was underwhelming...disney is cranking these shits out too fast and it’s showing...force awakens was dope tho after a slow start so I’m still holding out hope that the last jedi will follow suit
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I’m actually finish this flick another day...I’m getting the same disappointing feeling I got when I watched rogue one...coincidentally I rewatched that on fri. and still felt it was underwhelming...disney is cranking these shits out too fast and it’s showing...force awakens was dope tho after a slow start so I’m still holding out hope that the last jedi will follow suit
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What I find so funny is that the criticism of this movie is such that they actually think there has been a perfect Star Wars movie. There hasn't been, each movie has some BS in it that sometimes distracts from the movies and sometimes doesn't but at the end of the day, its the overarching story that counts not scenes. As for whether Luke or any character would act a certain way, we have not seen Luke in at least 25 to 30 years in movie time - people change or at least have a crisis of confidence - get over it.
Finally,got around to seeing it. How the hell this movie made a lot of money because the movie was pure garbage.
Because..... STAR WARS.
Movie is pure trash.
Im trying to figure what anyone could like about it but I cant get there.
Im trying to figure what anyone could like about it but I cant get there.
This had me 
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This had me
This was the video that played next but was pretty good info on use of bathos
Man I just watched this on Netflix and wow it was really bad. Someone should have been fired for putting that sh*t out. I completely agree with the first video.
Great critique and comparison of star wars to the catholic protestant reformation
Metaphor gets started at 3:30 mark
Metaphor gets started at 3:30 mark
Is it possible that Luke Skywalker was already dead in Episode 8 and was a ghost since his school was destroyed?
Michael Fox, I am a Star Wars enthusiast and have vast knowledge about the SW universe.
Updated Sep 20
https://www.quora.com/#
Yes it’s entirely possible, I believe, that Luke actually crash landed his X-Wing on Ahch-To and died!
When Rey arrived on the island, she tried to persuade Luke to come along. He said no, not because he didn’t want to, but because he couldn’t.
Ach-Too is the birthplace of the Jedi and incredibly strong with the Force. Strong enough for Luke to maintain a “physical” Force presence after death.
The tree “temple” is the conductor of force energy on Ahch-To and Luke didn’t want to destroy it, because he didn’t want to move on. Listen to what Yoda tells him.
Yoda made the decision for Luke, and burned the tree. It was now only a matter of time before Luke became one with the Force, eternally, unable to maintain a physical manifestation.
After “Force Projecting” on to Krait, this expended whatever energy Luke had left, and he faded away, presumably to become a Force Ghost.
Notice when Luke fades, that his robotic hand does not stay behind. That’s because it was never there in the first place. It’s still in the cockpit of the x-wing, under the sea.
Michael Fox, I am a Star Wars enthusiast and have vast knowledge about the SW universe.
Updated Sep 20
https://www.quora.com/#
Yes it’s entirely possible, I believe, that Luke actually crash landed his X-Wing on Ahch-To and died!
When Rey arrived on the island, she tried to persuade Luke to come along. He said no, not because he didn’t want to, but because he couldn’t.
Ach-Too is the birthplace of the Jedi and incredibly strong with the Force. Strong enough for Luke to maintain a “physical” Force presence after death.
The tree “temple” is the conductor of force energy on Ahch-To and Luke didn’t want to destroy it, because he didn’t want to move on. Listen to what Yoda tells him.
Yoda made the decision for Luke, and burned the tree. It was now only a matter of time before Luke became one with the Force, eternally, unable to maintain a physical manifestation.
After “Force Projecting” on to Krait, this expended whatever energy Luke had left, and he faded away, presumably to become a Force Ghost.
Notice when Luke fades, that his robotic hand does not stay behind. That’s because it was never there in the first place. It’s still in the cockpit of the x-wing, under the sea.
new trailer debuts tomorrow
Star Wars Rise of Skywalker TRAILER teaser sees final battle like Avengers Endgame? WATCH
STAR WARS 9 The Rise of Skywalker trailer teaser sees what could be a final battle on the magnitude of Avengers Endgame, while possibly revealing The Ghost.
By GEORGE SIMPSON
PUBLISHED: 20:41, Mon, Oct 21, 2019 | UPDATED: 20:49, Mon, Oct 21, 2019
Tonight in the US, the final trailer for Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker will premiere on Monday Night Football on ESPN. In the meantime, teasers for the new footage have appeared online. The latest sees a fleet of Rebellion ships lining up together. Could this be for an Avengers Endgame style final battle against Palpatine?
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Star Wars fans will know The Ghost from the Star Wars Rebels TV show, set just before the original trilogy.
The ship was piloted by Hera Syndulla, among a band of Lothal rebels and made its live-action debut in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.
Perhaps this means we’ll be introduced to a live-action version of Hera herself?
Seeing The Ghost lining up to the Millennium Falcon with a host of other Rebel ships makes it hard not to think of Avengers Endgame’s final battle.
In the Marvel epic’s climactic scene Marvel superheroes from across the franchise came together for a huge charge against Thanos’ forces.
READ MORE: STAR WARS 9 TRAILER TONIGHT – WHAT TIME AND WHERE?
Star Wars Rise of Skywalker TRAILER teaser sees final battle like Avengers Endgame? WATCH (Image: LUCASFILM)
The Last Jedi was particularly divisive among fans, and presumably, director JJ Abrams will play it safe, as he did with The Force Awakens, for the final outing.
No doubt there will be plenty of fan service, plus what he confirms are some answered questions.
In fact, the director teased a “satisfying” ending for The Rise of Skywalker in a recent interview.
Speaking with Entertainment Weekly, Abrams said: “This is about bringing this thing to a close in a way that is emotional and meaningful and also satisfying in terms of actually answering [as many] questions as possible.”
STAR WARS 9 The Rise of Skywalker trailer teaser sees what could be a final battle on the magnitude of Avengers Endgame, while possibly revealing The Ghost.
By GEORGE SIMPSON
PUBLISHED: 20:41, Mon, Oct 21, 2019 | UPDATED: 20:49, Mon, Oct 21, 2019
Tonight in the US, the final trailer for Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker will premiere on Monday Night Football on ESPN. In the meantime, teasers for the new footage have appeared online. The latest sees a fleet of Rebellion ships lining up together. Could this be for an Avengers Endgame style final battle against Palpatine?
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Star Wars fans will know The Ghost from the Star Wars Rebels TV show, set just before the original trilogy.
The ship was piloted by Hera Syndulla, among a band of Lothal rebels and made its live-action debut in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.
Perhaps this means we’ll be introduced to a live-action version of Hera herself?
Seeing The Ghost lining up to the Millennium Falcon with a host of other Rebel ships makes it hard not to think of Avengers Endgame’s final battle.
In the Marvel epic’s climactic scene Marvel superheroes from across the franchise came together for a huge charge against Thanos’ forces.
READ MORE: STAR WARS 9 TRAILER TONIGHT – WHAT TIME AND WHERE?
Star Wars Rise of Skywalker TRAILER teaser sees final battle like Avengers Endgame? WATCH (Image: LUCASFILM)
Considering The Rise of Skywalker is concluding the nine-episode spanning Skywalker saga, perhaps a similar battle with characters from across the franchise altogether is what’s planned.
The Last Jedi was particularly divisive among fans, and presumably, director JJ Abrams will play it safe, as he did with The Force Awakens, for the final outing.
No doubt there will be plenty of fan service, plus what he confirms are some answered questions.
In fact, the director teased a “satisfying” ending for The Rise of Skywalker in a recent interview.
Speaking with Entertainment Weekly, Abrams said: “This is about bringing this thing to a close in a way that is emotional and meaningful and also satisfying in terms of actually answering [as many] questions as possible.”
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