Sports: Swimmer Riley Gaines slams ESPN for Lia Thomas Women's History Month segment

regulus

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And I get that I remember seeing her story on Real Sports.

To me that's different.

She was BORN female. It's done.

All that other stuff? Whelp we just gotta deal.

Some folk have larger hands, feet, lungs, better peripheral vision, taller, heavier, stronger, faster hand eye coordination etc etc

These are NATURAL gifts.

No enhancements.

I don't think it's as complicated as they trying to make it.

Anything OUT of that norm?

Ok we go to court.

But waking up one morning saying you a girl now ain't gonna work

Wrong again. Semenya has XY chromosomes and was born with a disorder that prevented proper development of male genitalia. There are internal testicles where the ovaries should be.
 

pookie

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I don't pretend to have the answers for this issue TBH. Castor Senenya is an actual woman that the Olympic Committee wanted to take hormone blockers because of her higher level of testosterone.

It's somewhat of a complicated issue when you're talking about sports and the real differences between men and women physically.

Nah nothing complicated about that, I'm 100% positive not all the women had the same level of testosterone just like not all men do, that was wrong and disturbing what the Olympic Committee did to her
 

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I know why people are using the term already, bro. My issue is the changing the whole nomenclature for the trans community; the trans community doesn't even want the terms "I had a girl" or "I had a boy" used as birthing terms instead they want the term "assigned at birth" attached to the term. That's my issue.
Cool. I wasn't aware you knew about that case or not.
 

Piff Henderson

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Nah nothing complicated about that, I'm 100% positive not all the women had the same level of testosterone just like not all men do, that was wrong and disturbing what the Olympic Committee did to her
But you have a poster on here saying Semenya is a male. So, it is more complicated than we'd like to believe.
 

pookie

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Castor Semenya is a biological male with androgen insensitivity and internal testicals. Why do y'all never mention that?

Is Castor able to get pregnant, does she have the ability to impregnate a woman?
 

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Cool. I wasn't aware you knew about that case or not.
Homie, the trans community, if you're straight, they want to call you a "cis male" and for the straight females a "cis woman." They want our whole language to change when talking about gender. I'm a Bizzaro world Obama, that's a change I can't believe in.
 

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Is Castor able to get pregnant, does she have the ability to impregnate a woman?
She has 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency so she's likely infertile.

Spontaneous fertility in 5αR2D affected males is usually not possible[2] (though has been observed[28]) due to semen abnormalities that include reduced sperm counts, high semen viscosity and, in some cases, lack of primary spermatocytes. This supports the notion that DHT has an important role in spermatocyte differentiation.[29] The broad spectrum of presentation is consistent with highly varying sperm counts among affected males. Testicular function may also be impaired by incomplete descent as well as the genetic mutation itself.[13]
 

Piff Henderson

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Homie, the trans community, if you're straight, they want to call you a "cis male" and for the straight females a "cis woman." They want our whole language to change when talking about gender. I'm a Bizzaro world Obama, that's a change I can't believe in.
Bruh, I don't care. I know I'm a man. There are some ppl out there who would call me worse but that doesn't affect me either.
 

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Bruh, I don't care. I know I'm a man. There are some ppl out there who would call me worse but that doesn't affect me either.
The point of you caring or not is not the issue, the world doesn't care if you care personally; instead, it's about that language filtering in as the standard usage when talking about gender. That's the issue.
 

regulus

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Technically, she's intersex. She was born a female.

Castor was born appearing female.

Is Castor able to get pregnant, does she have the ability to impregnate a woman?

Castor cannot get pregnant because there is no womb or ovaries. Castor has never menstruated and never will. The internal testicles had to be removed due to a high likelihood of developing testicular cancer in people with that condition. This is also what allows Castor to compete as a "woman", i.e. lacking testicles.
 

Piff Henderson

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The point of you caring or not is not the issue, the world doesn't care if you care personally; instead, it's about that language filtering in as the standard usage when talking about gender. That's the issue.
I understood your point the first time you made it.
 

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Swimmer Riley Gaines slams ESPN for Lia Thomas Women's History Month segment
Gaines starred at Kentucky during her collegiate swim career
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Riley Gaines, a 12-time All-American swimmer who competed at Kentucky, blasted ESPN for honoring Lia Thomas in its "Celebrating Women’s History Month" segment.
Gaines has been at the forefront of women’s sports calling for fair treatment and keeping transgender women from competing against biological females at the highest level of competition. Gaines tied with the former Penn swimmer at the NCAA championships last year. Thomas’ performance in the pool caused a national firestorm.
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University of Pennsylvania swimmer Lia Thomas and Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines react after finishing tied for fifth in the 200 freestyle finals at the NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships on March 18, 2022, in Atlanta. (Rich von Biberstein/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)
"Lia Thomas is not a brave, courageous woman who EARNED a national title," Gaines tweeted Sunday. "He is an arrogant, cheat who STOLE a national title from a hardworking, deserving woman. The @ncaa is responsible.
"If I was a woman working at ESPN, I would walk out. You're spineless @espn."
ESPN didn't immediately respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.
The segment brought up Thomas’ transition from male to female, her win at the NCAA Championships and competing amid criticism from the swimming world.
Lia Thomas after winning the 500-yard freestyle during the NCAA Division I Women's Swimming and Diving Championship at the McAuley Aquatic Center on March 17, 2022, in Atlanta. (Mike Comer/NCAA Photos via Getty Images)
ESPN HONORS LIA THOMAS IN 'CELEBRATING WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH' SEGMENT
"People will say, ‘Oh, she just transitioned so she would have an advantage so she could win.’ I transitioned to be happy," Thomas says in the segment.
Thomas’ participation in NCAA women’s swimming during the 2021-22 season sparked a growing debate over the fairness of transgender women competing against biological females. She became the first transgender woman to win an Ivy League Championship and later an NCAA Championship in the 500 free.

Pennsylvania's Lia Thomas smiles after winning the 100-yard freestyle final at the Ivy League women's swimming and diving championships at Harvard University, Saturday, Feb. 19, 2022, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. (AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)
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But the wins didn’t come without scrutiny and put a sharper focus on the governing bodies of various sports to set rules regarding transgender athletes’ participation.

Look at this Icabod Crane Adam’s apple having vulture looking mf! Nobody nowhere will mistake this Lurch looking bastard from the Adam’s Family looking mf for being a “woman”
 

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I understood your point the first time you made it.
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regulus

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She was assigned female by the doctor who delivered her. She's intersex just as everyone is who has that same deficiency.

Do you know what you sound like right now? That still doesn't make her an actual female. It just means the doctor used visual confirmation which was incorrect.
 

Piff Henderson

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Do you know what you sound like right now? That still doesn't make her an actual female. It just means the doctor used visual confirmation which was incorrect.
It doesn't make her an actual male either who are born with an obvious dick and balls. She's intersex. What are you arguing against?

She didn't wake up one day and decide to be female, that's how she was raised.
 

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Wrong again. Semenya has XY chromosomes and was born with a disorder that prevented proper development of male genitalia. There are internal testicles where the ovaries should be.

What you mean wrong again?
The issue with Caster is that Caster can legitimately say she was "born that way".

Lia (William) can not say that.

^^^^

Yeah I gonna rewatch that real sports. I think in that specific case I may have oversimplified the issue

But I think Caster is a unique situation

I still think what you are assigned at birth is a good barometer
 

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How it should work to us and how it does work are two different things, fam. You know this.

Personally, I don't believe this as important an issue as the culture warriors try to make it since there aren't than many trannies to begin with and even fewer trans athletes.

^^^^

Is this REALLY an issue? That they needed to create a full out rule change?

It should be case by case.

In Caster case? Intersex? Well that is special rare and given care and patience with real medical experts involved. I am out of my depth.

But someone who has CHOSEN to identify?

Not a physical medical defining characteristic?

I thinks that just is what it is.

Penis is male - Vagina is female.

I guess?
 

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Saw the term "sexual minority" over the weekend.
Thats what they are...they wont embrace that one though....their whole agenda thrives on being compared to racial and ethnic minorities...sexual minorities puts them in their true group and they are not gonna wanna be lumped with the other sexual minorities, the pedos, beastality people etc
 

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Now trans community want people to say "pregnant persons" rather than "pregnant women," something ain't right about that.
Only women can get pregnant and they know that. And they hate that.

That pregnant person's. That chest feeders. That bleeders. All those are trans people insults for real women.

No trans woman can or ever will get pregnant. It's not possible. I blame the women who are their allies. Those women are aiding and abetting this ridiculous Behavior.

It's like training your replacement at work and the replacement gets the promotion and raise that you were trying to get
 

playahaitian

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That's what I was taught. Now I'm told everything I was taught was wrong.



I told someone before don't refer to me as cis gender whatever and they replied but that's what you ARE!

Is it? Your telling ME what I am?

And than I just tilted my head and waited and waited and waited...

And I saw the light bulb go off and then the fist of realization hit their gut.

And that was that.
 

playahaitian

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Only women can get pregnant and they know that. And they hate that.

That pregnant person's. That chest feeders. That bleeders. All those are trans people insults for real women.

No trans woman can or ever will get pregnant. It's not possible. I blame the women who are their allies. Those women are aiding and abetting this ridiculous Behavior.

It's like training your replacement at work and the replacement gets the promotion and raise that you were trying to get

WinTentireF??!!
 

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I told someone before don't refer to me as cis gender whatever and they replied but that's what you ARE!

Is it? Your telling ME what I am?

And than I just tilted my head and waited and waited and waited...

And I saw the light bulb go off and then the fist of realization hit their gut.

And that was that.
Right. The same logic they use applies.

Now if they're referring to non-trans ppl generally as "cis," I, personally, have no problem with it particularly in academic papers.

But it's not anyone's place to label you, as an individual, "cis" if that's not a dichotomy you agree with.
 

playahaitian

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Only women can get pregnant and they know that. And they hate that.

That pregnant person's. That chest feeders. That bleeders. All those are trans people insults for real women.

No trans woman can or ever will get pregnant. It's not possible. I blame the women who are their allies. Those women are aiding and abetting this ridiculous Behavior.

It's like training your replacement at work and the replacement gets the promotion and raise that you were trying to get

Yoooooooo these dudes bugging!!!!

If they said that nonsensical slick sh*t around me and mines?

These dudes would be crippled and confused if they had to experience a single menstrual cycle

Let alone a full pregnancy.

Wtf is going on out here?
 

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You know, there's an easy way to resolve all of this.

Create a law that if you choose to change your gender to female, you should agree to be castrated in 2 years, as well as take suppressants for testosterone. If you want to play in sports of your "assigned" gender, then you must wait a mandatory year & take test proving that your T-levels are suppressed.

Do that & watch how many go back to their "natural" state.
 

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Whats everyone on here upset about?? Its just womens sports....most of ya'll dont watch or support it anyway.:rolleyes2:


MAYBE they SHOULD let trans women in the WNBA...then game play will be sped up and bitches can start playing above the rim and maybe you will actually watch and support the league......maybe??? Isn't that the knock on womens basketball in the pros and college??

who here actually pays to attention to womens collegiate sports in the first place???
 

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who here actually pays to attention to womens collegiate sports in the first place???


My family and I watch women basketball , volleyball and women track.
I been watching the Indoor track and the women basketball tourney this year.

I suppose most of the women in my family played all 3 sports, so it keeps my interest.

But I am probably a minority on this board that watches.
 
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