Sopranos Goes Out With A Whimper
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kurrupt said:
AJ was the comic relief of the episode.
I like the tension build up of the ending but I did feel cheated. Like I read on another board, if you read a novel which ended mid sentence you would feel cheated and probably would not consider it brilliant. Chase owed a proper ending to the viewers. Yeah there were clues, and yeah everything should not have to explicitly spelled out for you, but c'mon.
Blood Of A Panther said:
exactly, and to add to that...
AJ quoted tony "focus on the goodtimes"
(i dont know the technical term for this) maybe that was to get you thinking of the other quote tony said "when it happens you dont even see it coming"
i was bout 2 post thisBlood Of A Panther said:
taken from another forum
yes, it was a creatively brilliant ending
yes, it was a creatively brilliant ending
im understanding what alot of yall saying about the thing him and bobby talked about
but dam how do we really know if he died.
i know they focused on terrorism alot.
and tony told the fed guy about the terrorist accounts
but that little arab looking dude went in the washroom..and the door closed behind him..then they focused on tony looking at the door when his daughter came in
so how do we really know what happened.
im really pissed because i dont like having to guess like this.
im use to shows letting u know what happened at the end.
i think its bs.....
all that shit happened in 1 hour....
the only good part was when the car rolled over dude head..that was funny
but the rest is confusing
i really hope the wire dont follow in the sopranos footsteps when it comes to ending a series.
but dam how do we really know if he died.
i know they focused on terrorism alot.
and tony told the fed guy about the terrorist accounts
but that little arab looking dude went in the washroom..and the door closed behind him..then they focused on tony looking at the door when his daughter came in
so how do we really know what happened.
im really pissed because i dont like having to guess like this.
im use to shows letting u know what happened at the end.
i think its bs.....
all that shit happened in 1 hour....
the only good part was when the car rolled over dude head..that was funny
but the rest is confusing
i really hope the wire dont follow in the sopranos footsteps when it comes to ending a series.
Brilliant. Thanks for clearing this up.Blood Of A Panther said:
A-MAZING FUCKING ENDING!! I WAS LIKE DAMN!! YALL HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. AS A WRITER YOU ARE MORE CREATIVE MAKING PEOPLE THINK. HONESTLY HOW BORING AND TYPICAL WOULD HAVE IT BEEN IF YOU SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE RESTURANT, (NOT KNOWING WHO IT IS, NOTICE YOU SEE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHRACTERS.) THEN SOMEONE WALKS UP AND TONY GETS POPPED. I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE, WOW!!! SUPRISED ME! COME ON YALL. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!! THOSE JOURNEY LYRICS FOR EXAMPLE!! HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN ANY SONG!! STILL COULD BE A MOVIE. MAYBE AJ STEPPED IN FRONT, OR MEADOW. BULLET MISSED! ALL IM SAYING IS THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!! 
Blood Of A Panther said:
ok very nicely put.
but who actually remember's majority of that
most remember major events
even u had to search for clues and answers
bottom line is i still dont like the way it ended..and im very pissed
im stil a big fan..and i loved the show
but the ending is bs.
they could have done it a different way
john cena said:A-MAZING FUCKING ENDING!! I WAS LIKE DAMN!! YALL HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. AS A WRITER YOU ARE MORE CREATIVE MAKING PEOPLE THINK. HONESTLY HOW BORING AND TYPICAL WOULD HAVE IT BEEN IF YOU SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE RESTURANT, (NOT KNOWING WHO IT IS, NOTICE YOU SEE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHRACTERS.) THEN SOMEONE WALKS UP AND TONY GETS POPPED. I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE, WOW!!! SUPRISED ME! COME ON YALL. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!! THOSE JOURNEY LYRICS FOR EXAMPLE!! HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN ANY SONG!! STILL COULD BE A MOVIE. MAYBE AJ STEPPED IN FRONT, OR MEADOW. BULLET MISSED! ALL IM SAYING IS THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!
yeah
well imma watch it again on-demand when i get home tommorrow
try to see what yall see
but i know ill still think its bs
FLoss said:
The only thing I liked about the ending was Meadow pushing that damn Lexus IS, it's good to see the car you drive on a high profile movie!!
But still, if the ending was about Tony's death, how could he be so sloppy and allow himself to be put in that situation, looked like the whole resturant to include the kids would have or could have merked him.
Fuck it, we are better off figuring out who killed JFK than trying to understand this ending......
But still, if the ending was about Tony's death, how could he be so sloppy and allow himself to be put in that situation, looked like the whole resturant to include the kids would have or could have merked him.
Fuck it, we are better off figuring out who killed JFK than trying to understand this ending......
It could have been worse. Tony could have been put on the Witness Protection Program where he hangs out with Tupac and Elvis. LMBAO
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THE WAS THE SINGLE WORST HOUR OF TV I HAVE EVER WATCH !!!!!!!
DAVID CHASE NEED HIS ASS MERK FOR THAT BULLSHIT
MATTER OF FACT COMCAST AND HOMO HBO NEED TO PAY ME FOR WATCHING
THAT BULLSHIT
I WANT MY FUCKING HOUR BACK
LETS JUST HOPE HBO DO NOT FUCK UP THE LAST SEASON OF THE WIRE THIS WAY :
DAVID CHASE NEED HIS ASS MERK FOR THAT BULLSHIT
MATTER OF FACT COMCAST AND HOMO HBO NEED TO PAY ME FOR WATCHING
THAT BULLSHIT
I WANT MY FUCKING HOUR BACK
LETS JUST HOPE HBO DO NOT FUCK UP THE LAST SEASON OF THE WIRE THIS WAY
:ok i just saw the ending again and i dont know what to think now!!! i only notice that Tony was looking up to see meadow come inside the diner. He was always looking up when someone passed him or came inside the diner but didnt look whenthe two black guys came in. I do not think the leotardo or trucker had anything to do with him getting merked...this shit is annoying!
wtf was that??? this shit will be all over tv in the morn about how pissed people are fuck the movie you dont end a show like that only good reason is if they had some extra ep or another season other than that fuck hbo this was some bullshit.if they are setting up the movie fuck that too i think the movie would be better if it took place before the end so they could bring everyone back like pussy chris an everyone else
boooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hbo booooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mad people thought they tv broke
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mad people thought they tv broke
Blood Of A Panther said:
i thought the ending was creative even before i read this... now im going back to check all of this, i got tomorrow off and all the Sopranos seasons..so regardless of everybody else this finale gets a ......
and the whole series.........
According to these articles, Chase ended it like this because he knows that whatever ending he decided on, there would be fans bitching anyway. So dude wanted to "play a final joke on the fans," and keep em guessing.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/10/sopranos.finale.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/a...dfc0f082949faa&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/10/sopranos.finale.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/a...dfc0f082949faa&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
No easy ending for 'The Sopranos'
By FRAZIER MOORE, AP Television Writer
Tonight at 8:50 pm
Tony Soprano carries on.
The much-awaited conclusion of HBO's "The Sopranos" arrived Sunday night in a frenzy of audience speculation. Would New Jersey mob boss Soprano live or be killed? Would his family die before his eyes? Would he go to jail? Be forced to enter witness protection? Would Brooklyn boss Phil Leotardo, who had ordered a hit on Tony, prevail?
In the end, the only ending that mattered was the one masterminded by "Sopranos" creator David Chase. And playing against viewer expectations, as always, Chase refused to stage a mass extermination, put the characters through any changes, or provide his viewers with comfortable closure. Or catharsis. After all, he declined to pass moral judgment on Tony -- he reminded viewers all season what a thug Tony is, then gave him a pass.
But Chase was true to himself, and that's what made "The Sopranos" brilliant on Sunday night, and the 85 episodes that went before. The product of an artist with a bleak but illuminating vision, "The Sopranos" has always existed on its own terms. And it was seldom tidy.
The only neat development in the finale was that Leotardo was crushed. Otherwise it was perversely non-earthshaking -- just one last visit with the characters we have followed so devoutly since 1999.
Here was the funeral for Bobby Bacala, Tony's soldier and brother-in-law, who was shot dead on Leotardo's orders last week. Here was Tony (series star James Gandolfini) paying a hospital visit to his gravely injured consigliere, Silvio Dante, also targeted by Leotardo.
Tony's ne'er-do-well son A.J. (Robert Iler) continued to wail about the misery in the world, and voiced a fleeting urge to join the Army and go fight in Afghanistan (Tony persuaded him to get involved in filmmaking, instead). Daughter Meadow (Jamie-Lynn Sigler) harped on her plans to be a lawyer.
Tony visits his senile Uncle Junior (Dominic Chianese) at the nursing home. "You and my dad, you two ran North Jersey," Tony prompts him.
"We did?" said Uncle Junior with no sign of recognition. "That's nice."
Despite suspicions to the contrary, neither Paulie Walnuts nor Patsy Parisi sold out Tony. And neither was whacked. Dr. Melfi, who kicked Tony out of therapy last week, made no last-minute appearance.
Sure, headaches lie ahead for Tony. The Feds are still after him. And Meadow's fiance, Patsy Jr., is a lawyer who may well be pursuing cases that intrude on Tony's business interests.
So what else is new?
The finale displayed the characters continuing, for better and worse, unaffected by the fact that the series is done. The implication was, they will go on as usual. We just won't be able to watch.
Of course, Leotardo (Frank Vincent) hit a dead end after Tony located him with the help of his favorite federal agent. The execution was a quick but classic "Sopranos" scene: Pulling up at a gas station with his wife, Leotardo made a grand show of telling his two young grandchildren in the back seat to "wave bye-bye" as he emerged from his SUV. The next moment he was on the pavement, shot in the head.
Then you heard the car roll over his head. Carunnnchh! Quick, clinical, even comical, this was the only violence during the hour.
Not that Chase (who wrote and directed this episode) didn't tease viewers with the threat of death in almost every scene.
This was never more true than in the final sequence. On the surface, it was nothing more momentous than Tony, his wife, Carmela (Edie Falco), Meadow and A.J. meeting for dinner at a cozy family restaurant.
When he arrived, Tony dropped a coin in the jukebox and played the classic Journey power ballad "Don't Stop Believing." Meanwhile, every moment seemed to foreshadow disaster: Suspicious-looking people coming in the door or seated at a table nearby. Meadow on the street having trouble parallel parking her car, the tires squealing against the curb. With every passing second, the audience was primed for tragedy. It was a scene both warm and fuzzy yet full of dread, setting every viewer's heart racing for no clear reason.
But nothing would happen. It was just a family gathering for dinner at a restaurant.
Then, with a jingle of the bell on the front door, Tony looked up, apparently seeing Meadow make her delayed entrance. Or could he have seen something awful -- something he certainly deserved -- about to come down?
Probably not. Almost certainly a false alarm. But we'll never know. With that, "The Sopranos" cut to black, leaving us enriched after eight years. And flustered. And fated to always wonder what happened next.
Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press
By FRAZIER MOORE, AP Television Writer
Tonight at 8:50 pm
Tony Soprano carries on.
The much-awaited conclusion of HBO's "The Sopranos" arrived Sunday night in a frenzy of audience speculation. Would New Jersey mob boss Soprano live or be killed? Would his family die before his eyes? Would he go to jail? Be forced to enter witness protection? Would Brooklyn boss Phil Leotardo, who had ordered a hit on Tony, prevail?
In the end, the only ending that mattered was the one masterminded by "Sopranos" creator David Chase. And playing against viewer expectations, as always, Chase refused to stage a mass extermination, put the characters through any changes, or provide his viewers with comfortable closure. Or catharsis. After all, he declined to pass moral judgment on Tony -- he reminded viewers all season what a thug Tony is, then gave him a pass.
But Chase was true to himself, and that's what made "The Sopranos" brilliant on Sunday night, and the 85 episodes that went before. The product of an artist with a bleak but illuminating vision, "The Sopranos" has always existed on its own terms. And it was seldom tidy.
The only neat development in the finale was that Leotardo was crushed. Otherwise it was perversely non-earthshaking -- just one last visit with the characters we have followed so devoutly since 1999.
Here was the funeral for Bobby Bacala, Tony's soldier and brother-in-law, who was shot dead on Leotardo's orders last week. Here was Tony (series star James Gandolfini) paying a hospital visit to his gravely injured consigliere, Silvio Dante, also targeted by Leotardo.
Tony's ne'er-do-well son A.J. (Robert Iler) continued to wail about the misery in the world, and voiced a fleeting urge to join the Army and go fight in Afghanistan (Tony persuaded him to get involved in filmmaking, instead). Daughter Meadow (Jamie-Lynn Sigler) harped on her plans to be a lawyer.
Tony visits his senile Uncle Junior (Dominic Chianese) at the nursing home. "You and my dad, you two ran North Jersey," Tony prompts him.
"We did?" said Uncle Junior with no sign of recognition. "That's nice."
Despite suspicions to the contrary, neither Paulie Walnuts nor Patsy Parisi sold out Tony. And neither was whacked. Dr. Melfi, who kicked Tony out of therapy last week, made no last-minute appearance.
Sure, headaches lie ahead for Tony. The Feds are still after him. And Meadow's fiance, Patsy Jr., is a lawyer who may well be pursuing cases that intrude on Tony's business interests.
So what else is new?
The finale displayed the characters continuing, for better and worse, unaffected by the fact that the series is done. The implication was, they will go on as usual. We just won't be able to watch.
Of course, Leotardo (Frank Vincent) hit a dead end after Tony located him with the help of his favorite federal agent. The execution was a quick but classic "Sopranos" scene: Pulling up at a gas station with his wife, Leotardo made a grand show of telling his two young grandchildren in the back seat to "wave bye-bye" as he emerged from his SUV. The next moment he was on the pavement, shot in the head.
Then you heard the car roll over his head. Carunnnchh! Quick, clinical, even comical, this was the only violence during the hour.
Not that Chase (who wrote and directed this episode) didn't tease viewers with the threat of death in almost every scene.
This was never more true than in the final sequence. On the surface, it was nothing more momentous than Tony, his wife, Carmela (Edie Falco), Meadow and A.J. meeting for dinner at a cozy family restaurant.
When he arrived, Tony dropped a coin in the jukebox and played the classic Journey power ballad "Don't Stop Believing." Meanwhile, every moment seemed to foreshadow disaster: Suspicious-looking people coming in the door or seated at a table nearby. Meadow on the street having trouble parallel parking her car, the tires squealing against the curb. With every passing second, the audience was primed for tragedy. It was a scene both warm and fuzzy yet full of dread, setting every viewer's heart racing for no clear reason.
But nothing would happen. It was just a family gathering for dinner at a restaurant.
Then, with a jingle of the bell on the front door, Tony looked up, apparently seeing Meadow make her delayed entrance. Or could he have seen something awful -- something he certainly deserved -- about to come down?
Probably not. Almost certainly a false alarm. But we'll never know. With that, "The Sopranos" cut to black, leaving us enriched after eight years. And flustered. And fated to always wonder what happened next.
Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press
L_SON said:
I know I'm probably late, because I haven't read the rest of the threads past this one, but I'm going to have to
CO SIGN MY NIGGA!!!!!
gman4gov said:This came off the HBO community forum. Pleaze cite your reference.
i was just on hbo too fuck them white boys trying to make the shit seem cool bout chase wants us to come up with our own ending.nigga do we look like writters you fucking make the ending for us......if this really is the end people will be talking about this for years as the worst ending ever.....i sat and watched this show for years just for this bullshit ending?.its like watching a 80 hour movie that just cuts off at 79 hours an 59 minutes ....fuck any of you that thought the ending was good
I read this on another board which kind of makes the ending a bit more deep.
I thought the ending was pretty good. He didn't spoon feed what was going to happen to you. You had to come up with your own ideas.
I thought the ending was pretty good. He didn't spoon feed what was going to happen to you. You had to come up with your own ideas.