Sistas Real Talk: How do you feel when you see a brotha with a nonblack chick..

[Mr MajestiK]

I wasn't referring to you specifically thats why I said some of you. Alot of horrible things are said about women all over this board on a daily basis. That rim thing you just said is the tackiest most low class and idiotic thing I have ever heard. I don't know any women like that nor have I even met any so its hard for me to comprehend.

The closest I encountered was years ago leaving some hiphop party and a guy in a benz pulled around and asked me if I wanted a ride. I declined gracefully. Apparantly this man was Jay Z but I didn't know or care. So some real ghetto fabulous looking girls also leaving started cursing me out telling me I am crazy and that was Jay Z and I coulda got a coach bag. I thought that was very rare and extreme and have never encountered anything like that since and that was like 15 years ago. It sounds like you guys see this everyday.

^^^Almost everyday.

 

[bigirl]

^^I guess some women are too easily satisfied with the trappings of wealth as opposed to the reality of real monetary independence.

It's not like Bill Gates, Microsoft's monarch feels the need to style and profile because he's immensely wealthy.

The fellow still has the air of a nerd about him evn though he's rich enough to do almost anything he wants.

I guess people who really have that self generating wealth have no need to floss or otherwise advertise their financially comfortable status.

the wealthiest people in the world come to my country and you would never know they are by looking at them. they wear regular bummy shorts and flipflops and eat from the little fish shacks on the beach.

 

[Adam Knows]

It sounds like you guys see this everyday.

every other day....

 

[Adam Knows]

the wealthiest people in the world come to my country and you would never know they are by looking at them. they wear regular bummy shorts and flipflops and eat from the little fish shacks on the beach.

if i understand your in the bahamas? yeah it's always like that, regardless where your from there. once in a while you'll get someone that flaunts when they're out of the country. we were schooled on NOT to do that a long time ago. leave the jerseys n jewelry n shit and keep it bummy. but when you see them at home it's a different story.

 

[bigirl]

if i understand your in the bahamas? yeah it's always like that, regardless where your from there. once in a while you'll get someone that flaunts when they're out of the country. we were schooled on NOT to do that a long time ago. leave the jerseys n jewelry n shit and keep it bummy. but when you see them at home it's a different story.

no not the bahamas. st maarten and surrounding territory.
no i have been to fairfield county and greenwich connecticut which are ridiculously wealthy areas mostly white. yes there are huge estates and such but otherwise, these people are low key. they just wear regular gap type clothing and drive like maybe an old range rover or even land rover or something. yeah i saw some bmws and benzs again alot of older ones from 70s and 80s less newer ones. Didn't see Hummers or ferrarris or a ton of gaudy jewelry or flashy clothing.

 

[Cleopatra_J]

Maybe the women in this thread should read the 48 Laws of power and realize that people who are successful don't associate with others who aren't because they bring them down.

If you read all of the 48 laws of power you would know that in the introduction its says that you don't have to follow all the rules to still find power. You may find that some laws will fare better for you than others.

Would you turn your back on your family if they weren't as successful as you? Yeah, I agree that it wouldn't benefit a CEO to associated with a drug dealer, but are you saying he can't be friends with janitor because he's not successful? That's a little classist (i know, not a real word, but it works for me) IMO.

If I have to be alone for the rest of my life, so be it. No other man can replace a black man in my book, faults and all.

I so agree with this statement. Me and my college roommates all had this same sentiment.



In this thread I'm realizing that there are some people here who are perpetuating stereotypes..

Is there such a thing as a black car? I grew up in the hood and we knew about "souped up civics and integras" so I think that those statements about "black cars" are rare, and you're generalizing based on a few interactions.

 

[Adam Knows]

no not the bahamas. st maarten and surrounding territory.
no i have been to fairfield county and greenwich connecticut which are ridiculously wealthy areas mostly white. yes there are huge estates and such but otherwise, these people are low key. they just wear regular gap type clothing and drive like maybe an old range rover or even land rover or something. yeah i saw some bmws and benzs again alot of older ones from 70s and 80s less newer ones. Didn't see Hummers or ferrarris or a ton of gaudy jewelry or flashy clothing.

stuff like ferrari's lambo's stuff like that aren't practical there, the midwest n such because of the weather(though you'll see a lot in new york) goto florida, cali, texas, and you'll see that stuff all day. up around here it's hummers, h2's denalis, escalades(don't know why), range rovers, and bmw's and benzes. jewelry, i don't know i'm not one for it, but at the most you'll see a bracelet or nice watch on people. clothing? white people have us beat. shop at izod, jos. bank clothiers, saks, etc.

500 bucks for 3 white dress shirts?

 

[SxxxyBlckBtch]

Well hell im Racist so the shit bothers me.. fuck it... ​

 

[bigirl]

stuff like ferrari's lambo's stuff like that aren't practical there, the midwest n such because of the weather(though you'll see a lot in new york) goto florida, cali, texas, and you'll see that stuff all day. up around here it's hummers, h2's denalis, escalades(don't know why), range rovers, and bmw's and benzes. jewelry, i don't know i'm not one for it, but at the most you'll see a bracelet or nice watch on people. clothing? white people have us beat. shop at izod, jos. bank clothiers, saks, etc.

500 bucks for 3 white dress shirts?

ever heard of old money and new money? old money is not flashy and new money is. 9 times out of 10, new money is rich but old money is wealthy.
we get the tacky nouveau riche home too and they got tacky fancy yachts with gold trim and all the other trappings. they are always far less friendly than the real wealthy people.

 

[bigirl]

Well hell im Racist so the shit bothers me.. fuck it... ​

black people can't be racist. you are prejudiced at best and so am i.

 

[SxxxyBlckBtch]

black people can't be racist. you are prejudiced at best and so am i.

Well wuteva ya wanna call it.. i dont do other races.. not my thing @ all!!!!

 

[Adam Knows]

In this thread I'm realizing that there are some people here who are perpetuating stereotypes..

Is there such a thing as a black car? I grew up in the hood and we knew about "souped up civics and integras" so I think that those statements about "black cars" are rare, and you're generalizing based on a few interactions.

again it's where your at. because around here driving around in a souped up civic is considered a "white boys" car and you are frowned upon. to keep your "black card" your suppose to be driving a 'lac, a whatever them old cars sitting high are called..(a donk?)lol, a 300, a charger, a magnum, an suv, etc.

volkswagons, hondas, mid sized sedans, ford taurus's n stuff, people look at ya funny....but hey no one can tell me nothing about my civic.

 

[Adam Knows]

ever heard of old money and new money? old money is not flashy and new money is. 9 times out of 10, new money is rich but old money is wealthy.
we get the tacky nouveau riche home too and they got tacky fancy yachts with gold trim and all the other trappings. they are always far less friendly than the real wealthy people.

which is why i said the majority of the people living where i live are so over my head it's not funny. the majority of the people here are "old money" i'm not even "new money"...yet.

 

[Pussy Krook]

^^^I think I love you!(No simp)

She a piece of work ain't she. This one post she made describing her race and heritage made me want to go half on a baby with her.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

again it's where your at. because around here driving around in a souped up civic is considered a "white boys" car and you are frowned upon. to keep your "black card" your suppose to be driving a 'lac, a whatever them old cars sitting high are called..(a donk?)lol, a 300, a charger, a magnum, an suv, etc.

volkswagons, hondas, mid sized sedans, ford taurus's n stuff, people look at ya funny....but hey no one can tell me nothing about my civic.

I feel you on that shit, my shit is paid off aint shit you can tell me about "my" car. My shit don't belong to the bank anymore. But yeah unless your driving a Magnum, Charger, big boy SUV, old school, older model Lexus', Beamers, Benzs, or other older model high profile jumps off you aint ballin, and I get people sayin all the time Wranglers are whiteboy cars, but fuck it its mine, and unless you tryin to see me on the 1/4 mile with that big heavy ass car I'm not tryin to hear it.

 

[Arctic Sun]

I remember seeing this attractive sista at a music festival a few years ago being hugged up and kissing on this frumpy white dude, and I remember thinking myself.."What the fuck?" But then I sat and observed the comfort level that she had with this cat and she was really happy. "Dude must be taking care of his responsibilites and putting her first." How can you hate on that?

There are a finite amount of people who are going to be supportive and hold you down in good and bad times. If the person happens to be of another race/culture so be it. I think the smaller the city you reside in the more your choices are limited and therefore it's in your best interests to have an open dating pool. Class and educational background make the pickings even more slim.

 

[Harbinger]

if the prerequesite to get into a black woman's leg was a college degree and being a homeowner, guess what there would be a lot of college educated homeowning black men out there.

LOL, ain't that the truth.

 

[Arctic Sun]

LOL, ain't that the truth.

Cosign......

 

[Harbinger]

black people can't be racist. you are prejudiced at best and so am i.

Very deep, most don't get the distinction.

 

[Mr MajestiK]

I remember seeing this attractive sista at a music festival a few years ago being hugged up and kissing on this frumpy white dude, and I remember thinking myself.."What the fuck?" But then I sat and observed the comfort level that she had with this cat and she was really happy. "Dude must be taking care of his responsibilites and putting her first." How can you hate on that?

^^Only problem with this is the fact that if a brother manifested the same tendencies that attracted this chick to the white cat, she'd treat him like a herb and question his manhood.

Real talk.

 

[Arctic Sun]

^^Only problem with this is the fact that if a brother manifested the same tendencies that attracted this chick to the white cat, she'd treat him like a herb and question his manhood.

Real talk.

I think there's truth in your statement, but I don't want to paint everyone with that broad a stroke......but that being said

I think a black woman ( and "liberated" women in general) wants those same tendencies, but they want it from the man that they have an uncontrollable attraction towards and after the period of lust and intense sexual chemistry has been established.

 

[Al Smith]

If you read all of the 48 laws of power you would know that in the introduction its says that you don't have to follow all the rules to still find power. You may find that some laws will fare better for you than others.

Would you turn your back on your family if they weren't as successful as you? Yeah, I agree that it wouldn't benefit a CEO to associated with a drug dealer, but are you saying he can't be friends with janitor because he's not successful? That's a little classist (i know, not a real word, but it works for me) IMO.

I so agree with this statement. Me and my college roommates all had this same sentiment.



In this thread I'm realizing that there are some people here who are perpetuating stereotypes..

Is there such a thing as a black car? I grew up in the hood and we knew about "souped up civics and integras" so I think that those statements about "black cars" are rare, and you're generalizing based on a few interactions.

It can be a class issue if you want to call it that, but I don't associate with those who aren't busting their ass to get to a certain financial level in life, and that includes my family. My family is well educated, but we all grew up in the hood, the hood didn't grow up in us. We'd rather be educated than entertained. I don't associate with family thats not doing shit, even one of my sisters because family will bring you down first.

 

[Adam Knows]

Would you turn your back on your family if they weren't as successful as you? Yeah, I agree that it wouldn't benefit a CEO to associated with a drug dealer, but are you saying he can't be friends with janitor because he's not successful? That's a little classist (i know, not a real word, but it works for me) IMO.

well let's look at it in a light you would relate to....


within your circle of friends are their any people who would seem out of place?

 

[bigirl]

well let's look at it in a light you would relate to....


within your circle of friends are their any people who would seem out of place?

OK check this out; this whole line of thinking is purely an american thing. In the Caribbean we don't do that. Fishermen, construction workers, bankers, government ministers, rastamen and whoever all play dominoes together. This is why i take such offense to all of this and cannot overstand it. Check?

*those who do make the fatal flaw of shunning others due to them thinking they are above others due to title or position pay dearly for the rest of there lives. Can't get no fish, can't get no house built, can't get nothing and paying tourist prices til eternity. like that. *

 

[Al Smith]

The funny thing is, the majority of women that don't want to see black men with white women, aren't happy with themselves in the first place. The majority of the women would have never talked to the men in the first place. Believe it or not, men do have standards and kicking it with a woman who has a bitchy attitude is not one of them. I'm not worried about finding a woman who can relate to my struggles as a black man, I just want a woman who has the same interests that I do and someone who I can get along with, and it happens to be mostly non-black women. The black women that I got along with, kept having family that liked to get in your business, but that's another subject or topic for another day.

 

[Adam Knows]

OK check this out; this whole line of thinking is purely an american thing. In the Caribbean we don't do that. Fishermen, construction workers, bankers, government ministers, rastamen and whoever all play dominoes together. This is why i take such offense to all of this and cannot overstand it. Check?

*those who do make the fatal flaw of shunning others due to them thinking they are above others due to title or position pay dearly for the rest of there lives. Can't get no fish, can't get no house built, can't get nothing and paying tourist prices til eternity. like that. *

not the case here, though.

 

[bigirl]

not the case here, though.

yeah and thats the disease and tragedy of amerikkka
none of it is real or authentic.

 

[GET YOU HOT]

^^^Not sure what class of men you've seen in these situations, but cats like Seal (married to Heidi Klum) are anything but broke and I dont think anyone in the right mind would call him weak willed.

As far as I understand it, he was turned down by x amount of sistas because of his facial scars but ended up with one of the worlds top supermodels who just happens to be white.

I guess she was able to look beyond his facial disfigurement and relate to the man beneath.

How many "Seals" do you run into, on the daily at the market, church, park, recording studio...?? A gold digger, would ride him to the bank, I have known and spent time with entertainers and don't view them for monetary gain, its about personality...

I like his voice most of all and I should let you know, that I find him attractive, regardless of the tribal markings...

 

[Shadow]

I actually that the scaring is from his Lupus and not tribal markings. Could be wrong, though.

 

[Adam Knows]

How many "Seals" do you run into, on the daily at the market, church, park, recording studio...?? A gold digger, would ride him to the bank, I have known and spent time with entertainers and don't view them for monetary gain, its about personality...

I like his voice most of all and I should let you know, that I find him attractive, regardless of the tribal markings...

but that's just the thing...

yes, you are probably a woman/lady who would be genuine. but guess what? women like you don't stick out in the middle of the bunch, hence the "needle in a haystack" remark i keep saying(around here anyways). No one here is trying to say all women are bad. that's unrealistic and very small minded if one did. I'm not even saying there's only a handful. But there are more women who wouldn't be like you or bigirl or femme then there are that would be.

 

[Adam Knows]

yeah and thats the disease and tragedy of amerikkka
none of it is real or authentic.

it's very real. to the point it's scientific. it's almost akin to tribes...different views/opinions/beliefs. and it's just not an "amerikkka" thing it goes everywhere right down into jungles of africa.

which goes to my question earlier of have you ever been somewhere and have felt awkward/out of place. you tend to gravitate around individuals of like minds.


these aren't things that i just said i'm about to become just because i finished some accomplishments. these are things that i observed that worked in my best interests over a period of time. this isn't just with women it has to do with men to...over a period of time i had to do away with "friends" because "friends" become your worst enemy if your doing good and they are not. and sometimes that goes for family too.

1. when i first moved the city i was in before where i am now, i use to invite people over all the time. if a relative needed a place to stay, it was usually my house. The results? i was repeatedly robbed...little stuff yeah but it was still mine. i had someone go so far as to swap out my cable box for theirs because they were dumb enough to think since i got some premium channels if they took mine and take it to their home it would work for them. my home took some damage, someone poisoned my dog, and i picked up a felonious charge conviction because a "friend" and three of his boys called himself B&E into my home thinking wasn't there and i ended up opening up his face with a box cutter when they called themselves "jumping me".

2. friends. above and beyond what i just mentioned above, "friends" saw me as some type of target to further their own means...read the link i was one of the ones they tried to get caught up in that mess...

http://www.nycmidtheft.com/articles/article.ext?sp=978
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/ohn/news/22August2006.html
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/09/cleveland_man_sentenced_six_ye.html


3. women. most saw/see me as a target or as a means. my ex-fiance who is black went on a rampage after we didn't get married because she refused the prenupt. she was the one that posioned one my dogs, vandalized property, and harrassed me, my wife (who i was dating at the time) and my employees until she was arrested. Most other women had expectations of what your suppose to do for them, yet didn't want to do anything in return.

"Go to the car show?"
No, but you can take me to here to buy these shoes i saw i liked

two other incidents that come to mind...

first one i went over this one girls house i was dating..i get there she's sitting on her couch pissed. i ask her what's up? her reply:

"we've been dating for a minute and you come over here and you know i don't have a dining room set. why haven't you bought me one yet?"

another incident. another female i was dating asked if i could take her to walmart so "she" could buy some stuff to redecorate her bathrooms. sure, no problem. we're there for a good 2 hours her buying every little thing she could think of to cram into that tiny bathroom. get to the register to pay for, it comes to about 175 bucks and what does she do? looks at me with the expression "well, what are you waiting for?" i looked at her and said are you serious? we got into an argument right there and i walked right out and left her there.

other women who were sincere, there was just not enough grounds as far as common interests. want to know what awkward is? going to one of their family outings. 9 times out of 10 down in an area i normally wouldn't be in to begin with. people partaking in activities i do not believe in (drinking,drugs, etc. there was just no true common ground besides physical activity.

so now you have a "small glimpse" of why i think the way i do.


(waiting for Colin Powell to pop up)

 

[Arctic Sun]

(waiting for Colin Powell to pop up)

Naw I don't think Colin is necessary here, because the truth is being spoken. Just because you and I are black does not mean we will be able to share common ground on a day to day basis.

I think class status is so much more important than what people give it credit for. There's different life experiences and values that makes people so different even though we're all the same color. Shit, look at the Wu-Tang Clan. Since RZA has started doing scores of films and working with different people his tastes have changed. The rest of the crew is still doing the same shit they were doing back in the day. And now when they come together there's a fundamental difference in opinion, and that's why there's internal strife. Everyone wants to blame the class transcendant (RZA or your average middle/upper middle class black) for doing some new shit, but really it's the cats who are left behind who are at fault. Life is a continually evolving process and if you aren't trying to make moves, learn, and evolve...you deserve to get left behind.

It's never just an abrupt dropping like "fuck dem niggas, im on to new things." It's a slow deteriorating process where little strifes become big strifes and then there's the break......

 

[bigirl]

which goes to my question earlier of have you ever been somewhere and have felt awkward/out of place.

not really because i have traveled so much and been exposed to so many different types of people that i just adapt and flow with whoever and wherever i am at. i will admit it ain't cute to be in a room full of white people when you are the only non white and i try and avoid that but if it happens i deal with it.

1. when i first moved the city i was in before where i am now, i use to invite people over all the time. if a relative needed a place to stay, it was usually my house. The results? i was repeatedly robbed...little stuff yeah but it was still mine. i had someone go so far as to swap out my cable box for theirs because they were dumb enough to think since i got some premium channels if they took mine and take it to their home it would work for them. my home took some damage, someone poisoned my dog, and i picked up a felonious charge conviction because a "friend" and three of his boys called himself B&E into my home thinking wasn't there and i ended up opening up his face with a box cutter when they called themselves "jumping me".

I have been thru that too with the little stuff and with bigger stuff. Matter of fact I was just thinking about that this morning when the kid I let stay at my crib took up my car keys in the middle of the night and only made it 5 blocks and totaled my turbo saab and someone elsed parked acura. then the cops took me to the hospital where he was at he was playing don't speak english so i was translating. the cops let me search his backpack and i found all kinds of other little and big shit he stole too. the cops closed the curtains and let me beat him.

another time a guy left with my sp1200 when i was sleeping and i had to go to the wyckoff projects and demand my shit back and i got it too and his mother and brother beat his ass

i have been thru the gold digging boyfriends too always asking to borrow money or buy them things "you wouldn't do that for your MAN?" then always eventually they tell you you didn't do shit for them.

 

[lilsexii]

My issue is not with guys who date white women or any other race - hell, if you can find someone who treats you right and vibes with you mentally, more power to you.

I get pissed at the ones who exclusively date outside of the race offering excuses filled with generalizations and sterotypes...talking shit about black women like they're some prize themselves...

 

[bigirl]

I get pissed at the ones who exclusively date outside of the race offering excuses filled with generalizations and sterotypes...talking shit about black women like they're some prize themselves...

me too

don't even get me started on the number of low life low class gold digging yet putting on airs white and asian women i have encountered