Single Mothers should be Sterilized?

[Nat_Turner]

"Posted April 9, 2008 – The NAACP Tuesday condemned comments from a member of the Charleston County (S.C.) School Board who said that teen mothers and unmarried women who have more than one child should either be sterilized or have subsequent children removed from their custody."

I have a problem with irresponsibility but, I have a bigger problem with a government that thinks it's owns your body and your children.

Bitch should be pistol whipped............

Nuff said!

 

[Costanza]

"When is it OK for America not to be No. 1? When did we get out of that?"

When did we become Nazi Germany?

 

[Costanza]

When did marriage become equivalant to being a responsible human being?

 

[Drayonis]

There should be a three strike law... Three kids from three different baby daddy's before the age of 23, = mandatory tubal ligation.

Damn ur being nice. lol.

 

[Drayonis]

When did marriage become equivalant to being a responsible human being?

When did having multiple children by multple men become the responsible thing to do?

It's attitiudes like that that will keep these women doing the same shit. A woman can completley fuck up and there's always some cat waiting in the wings to tell her "it's ok"!

 

[big pimp]

When did having multiple children by multple men become the responsible thing to do?

It's attitiudes like that that will keep these women doing the same shit. A woman can completley fuck up and there's always some cat waiting in the wings to tell her "it's ok"!

 

[MegaDell]

I think sterilization is fine, but who gets sterilized, why, how? Oh man it'd be a bitch. Can you imagine women being dragged, kicking and screaming because they had too many kids?

Seeing that shit in the streets would fuck me up.

And like I said, were you just to take away the welfare to support these kids, and all you're gonna get are alot more people on the streets. People will fuck, it's a primal urge, and if pregnancy comes with that, well, chances are they are gonna have the baby, with no way of supporting it.

 

[Costanza]

When did having multiple children by multple men become the responsible thing to do?

I never said it was. It's not always irresponsible, though, nor is it a practice exclusive to single monthers.

 

[LennyNero1972]

If whites wanna let their garbage breed like rabits, while the minorities have their garbage limited, go ahead.

Oops, I forgot who I was talking to, let us move on.

 

[Zero]

Man, cats really don't put a lot of thought into their decision making, do they? I mean, if you think about it, I highly doubt ANYBODY with sense would want the government to have the power to sterilize citizens based on ANY criteria. How easy would THAT rule be to abuse and honestly, a lot of BLACK folks think white women can do no wrong, so why would the government? (meaning, this program would ONLY be used on minorities and the absolute WORST cases in the white community) Hell, why not just round all of these folks up and ship them off to camps and be done with it. Hitler would get WOOD if he had a nation full of cats like y'all.

 

[MegaDell]

Oops, I forgot who I was talking to, let us move on.

Wuh? I'm just saying. If the people who value rims over education, and just want to mooch off the work of others with welfare while they pop out babies want to do that, well yea, they maybe should be sterilized.

Because they won't stop on their own, just teaching the behavior to their many children, and if you try to take away the money, well these niggas are dumb and irresponsible, they will just fuck the kid up even worst.

 

[Drayonis]

I think sterilization is fine, but who gets sterilized, why, how? Oh man it'd be a bitch. Can you imagine women being dragged, kicking and screaming because they had too many kids?

Seeing that shit in the streets would fuck me up.

And like I said, were you just to take away the welfare to support these kids, and all you're gonna get are alot more people on the streets. People will fuck, it's a primal urge, and if pregnancy comes with that, well, chances are they are gonna have the baby, with no way of supporting it.

You should invite 10 homeless people into ur home and feed and clothe them for the next um...50 years. Don't make them help u with any of the bills or even clean up after themelves. If they decide
to have children while they live in ur house so be it, you'll have to work extra hours to feed them to.

When you get old and die make sure ur children inherit the responsibility of taking care of the now 100 strong homeless that u started out taking care of.

You're asking the government (which is us since we pay taxes) to take care of generations of people all because "It would be too mean to demand them to do better".

Apathy.

 

[MegaDell]

You should invite 10 homeless people into ur home and feed and clothe them for the next um...50 years. Don't make them help u with any of the bills or even clean up after themelves. If they decide
to have children while they live in ur house so be it, you'll have to work extra hours to feed them to.

When you get old and die make sure ur children inherit the responsibility of taking care of the now 100 strong homeless that u started out taking care of.

You're asking the government (which is us since we pay taxes) to take care of generations of people all because "It would be too mean to demand them to do better".

Apathy.

That's fine and all for adults. But you're forgetting the kids. Tell all the kids who are dying of cold and starvation, living in the streets, that while the country YOU LIVE in, that you are a citizen of, can provide some sort of shelter, and food for you, that, well, your mom fucked up in having you, so now you have to suffer too.

I mean, with what you see on TV about Africa? How many of us have actually donated? Now imagine seeing that on your city streets.

 

[Electric Relaxation]

Now the state has to take care of her kids! but I guess it's no big deal

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/jan/03/mother-accused-abandoning-nine-children-while-she-/

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Mother accused of abandoning nine children while she traveled arrested

By RYAN MILLS
6:26 p.m., Thursday, January 3, 2008

A 25-year-old woman who authorities believe left nine children alone in her roach-infested apartment while she traveled to Haiti in mid-December was arrested at an airport in Broward County.

Roberta Desir, 601 W. Delaware Ave., Apt. A1, Immokalee, was arrested on Dec. 23 at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport on an out of county hold, the Broward County Sheriff’s Office reported.

Desir was charged with child neglect, and has since posted bond and been released, said Kristi Lester, a spokeswoman for the Collier County Sheriff’s Office.

"That was actually our warrant they picked her up on," Lester said.

On Dec. 20, Collier County sheriff’s deputies discovered nine children home alone in Desir’s apartment after a woman reported that one of the children came to school that day not wearing any underwear. The children ranged in age from 8 months to 15 years old, authorities said.

One of the children, a 14-year-old girl, told deputies that her parents went to Haiti and her brother was taking care of her and her siblings. The girl said her brother was at work, and didn’t know how to contact him.

A neighbor told deputies the parents left on Dec. 14, and were slated to return after Christmas.

When deputies entered the apartment they found it filled with garbage, food and roaches, the Sheriff’s Office reported. Four of the children were running around naked, and in a back room the 8-month-old was in a crib covered with crumbs and roaches.

The Florida Department of Children and Families was called to the scene and removed the children from the apartment.

Neighbors and family members identified the father of some of the children as Ramser Azor, who also traveled to Haiti. They said Desir has six children and Azor has seven, but not all of them were living in the apartment when investigators arrived.

"The father is still in Haiti, according to what we know," Lester said. "They’re still waiting for him. They’re not sure when he will return, but we are waiting for him."

Roberta Desir

 

[MegaDell]

Wait wait wait. 25 year old woman....minus 14 year old daughter....means this bitch got pregnant for the first time at least by 11...something ain't right with that. That sounds like some, pedophile shit.

 

[FAT MACK]

Why should people like this be continuiously allowed to procreate? The shit is just plain stupid.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

That's fine and all for adults. But you're forgetting the kids. Tell all the kids who are dying of cold and starvation, living in the streets, that while the country YOU LIVE in, that you are a citizen of, can provide some sort of shelter, and food for you, that, well, your mom fucked up in having you, so now you have to suffer too.

I mean, with what you see on TV about Africa? How many of us have actually donated? Now imagine seeing that on your city streets.

MD,
Yo I understand what you are saying...but you are forgetting something in your OVEDRAMATIZATION. America is a captialist society. The country does not guarantee HAPPINESS.......only the pursuit of it.

Children often suffer (or benefit) because of the decisions of their parents, hence part of the reason for this thread. This country does not owe everyone free food and shelter. The people need to be responsible for themselves and quit looking towards the gov't to clothe and feed them.

The short term is yes....some folks would suffer.
The long term result.........is that people have to take more responsibility for themselves.

Currently what is the incentive for folks to do better? Folks and especially black folks have become a slave to the system. When we try to remove the shackles.......you got people like you saying "where would we be without the system?".

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Wait wait wait. 25 year old woman....minus 14 year old daughter....means this bitch got pregnant for the first time at least by 11...something ain't right with that. That sounds like some, pedophile shit.

No BS...read the story again. The woman had 6 children.....and the man had 7. The 14 year old could be the man's.

 

[Electric Relaxation]

MD,
Yo I understand what you are saying...but you are forgetting something in your OVEDRAMATIZATION. America is a captialist society. The country does not guarantee HAPPINESS.......only the pursuit of it.

Children often suffer (or benefit) because of the decisions of their parents, hence part of the reason for this thread. This country does not owe everyone free food and shelter. The people need to be responsible for themselves and quit looking towards the gov't to clothe and feed them.

The short term is yes....some folks would suffer.
The long term result.........is that people have to take more responsibility for themselves.

Currently what is the incentive for folks to do better? Folks and especially black folks have become a slave to the system. When we try to remove the shackles.......you got people like you saying "where would we be without the system?".

100% cosign.

 

[MegaDell]

MD,
Yo I understand what you are saying...but you are forgetting something in your OVEDRAMATIZATION. America is a captialist society. The country does not guarantee HAPPINESS.......only the pursuit of it.

Children often suffer (or benefit) because of the decisions of their parents, hence part of the reason for this thread. This country does not owe everyone free food and shelter. The people need to be responsible for themselves and quit looking towards the gov't to clothe and feed them.

The short term is yes....some folks would suffer.
The long term result.........is that people have to take more responsibility for themselves.

Currently what is the incentive for folks to do better? Folks and especially black folks have become a slave to the system. When we try to remove the shackles.......you got people like you saying "where would we be without the system?".

Overdramatization nothing. Take a women who has x kids, 1 under the limit, who is barely paying her low income rent and using up every foodstamp to buy poor quality food, and suddenly, take that money away, and add another kid, and she and her kids, WILL be on the street, and that's a fact.

Maybe the country doesn't promise happiness, but come the hell on. You say what you are because it's not a reality. When the number of homeless in america skyrockets, people will be like

"we fucked up". I mean, yea, something has to be done, But fucking over a bunch of kids is not the thing to do.

You can stand behind your idealistic words all you want, but when you have a starving, crying child outiside, lets see if you can just keep with that, for the better good shit. And you can believe it's what's gonna happen, cause poor isn't spread out, it's concentrated.

 

[Drayonis]

MD,
Yo I understand what you are saying...but you are forgetting something in your OVEDRAMATIZATION. America is a captialist society. The country does not guarantee HAPPINESS.......only the pursuit of it.

Children often suffer (or benefit) because of the decisions of their parents, hence part of the reason for this thread. This country does not owe everyone free food and shelter. The people need to be responsible for themselves and quit looking towards the gov't to clothe and feed them.

The short term is yes....some folks would suffer.
The long term result.........is that people have to take more responsibility for themselves.

Currently what is the incentive for folks to do better? Folks and especially black folks have become a slave to the system. When we try to remove the shackles.......you got people like you saying "where would we be without the system?".

Exactly. The reason the poverty cycle keeps growing is because the government has created and atmosphere for failure.

Back in the day women married because there wasn't a system in place to easily take care of people who couldn't cut it.

When my father first came from Grenada he said there wasn't any welfare system back home, you either worked or died. Right now you have generations of people that believe welfare is their birthright!

I personally know women who haven't worked a "job job" in 20 years and will tell you to ur face that as long as the check comes in and they get their "housing" they will never punch a clock.

 

[Drayonis]

Overdramatization nothing. Take a women who has x kids, 1 under the limit, who is barely paying her low income rent and using up every foodstamp to buy poor quality food, and suddenly, take that money away, and add another kid, and she and her kids, WILL be on the street, and that's a fact.

Maybe the country doesn't promise happiness, but come the hell on. You say what you are because it's not a reality. When the number of homeless in america skyrockets, people will be like

"we fucked up". I mean, yea, something has to be done, But fucking over a bunch of kids is not the thing to do.

You can stand behind your idealistic words all you want, but when you have a starving, crying child outiside, lets see if you can just keep with that, for the better good shit. And you can believe it's what's gonna happen, cause poor isn't spread out, it's concentrated.

SO what solutions do u have? Because the problem is getting worse everyday.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Overdramatization nothing. Take a women who has x kids, 1 under the limit, who is barely paying her low income rent and using up every foodstamp to buy poor quality food, and suddenly, take that money away, and add another kid, and she and her kids, WILL be on the street, and that's a fact.

Maybe the country doesn't promise happiness, but come the hell on. You say what you are because it's not a reality. When the number of homeless in america skyrockets, people will be like

"we fucked up". I mean, yea, something has to be done, But fucking over a bunch of kids is not the thing to do.

Again how much do you really know from experience.....and how much are you assuming?
For one foodstamps and the WIC program allows you to purchase high quality food. Go to the grocery store on the hood side of town on the 1st or 2nd day of the month. Look at the grocery carts that the women have and see what they are filled with.

Please believe the homeless numbers would not shoot up in the long run. What would happen is that you would see an increase in the number of families. Young women with a functioning Vagina are not going to be homeless. What you would see is an increase in the number of families and marriages. These women would begin to take on desirable characteristics in order to get a man to marry them, after the realization that they can not rely on uncle sam.

Just like in the early part of the century before all of these social programs. Folks got married not out of love or lust....but out of necesssity, because you could not MAKE IT ON YOUR OWN unless you were wealthy.

The consequence is that people man and women exercised better mate selection. Women looked for men that had the RESOURCES to provide for a home and stable family life. MEN looked for women that could hold down the domestic responsibilities of the home. What you had was FAMILY structure. So that when children were born.....this family structure was intact.

These days you have a bunch of young folks running around fucking whoever makes them "feel good" at the moment with little to no regard to PROPER MATE SELECTION.........because there are little perceived consequences for doing so. "Fuck it have a baby by a no good Nigga. Shit I'll just get section 8 housing for free.......WIC to pay for food........and Head start to pay for daycare.". Take away the free net and you will start to see more of. "I aint having a baby out of wedlock.....I can't afford that shit. I need to get my shit together so that I can attract a man that I can have a decent future with"

 

[MegaDell]

You're right, all that will happen, the only thing I'm talking about, is the transition time between what we have now, and what will EVENTUALLY, come about. People aren't gonna turn around in a day, a year, hell, maybe a decade.

They'll find themselves in a situation where obviously, they can't go back to dependence, but they lack the means to improve themselves at the same time.

It's easy to do better when you have the resources, but suddenly have those taken from under you and you're fucked.

 

[big pimp]

MD,
Yo I understand what you are saying...but you are forgetting something in your OVEDRAMATIZATION. America is a captialist society. The country does not guarantee HAPPINESS.......only the pursuit of it.

Children often suffer (or benefit) because of the decisions of their parents, hence part of the reason for this thread. This country does not owe everyone free food and shelter. The people need to be responsible for themselves and quit looking towards the gov't to clothe and feed them.

The short term is yes....some folks would suffer.
The long term result.........is that people have to take more responsibility for themselves.

Currently what is the incentive for folks to do better? Folks and especially black folks have become a slave to the system. When we try to remove the shackles.......you got people like you saying "where would we be without the system?".

co-sign. alot of people who could work don't want to work they rather live of the system. i say fuck them they need to go get a job and stop being lazy.

 

[Laughing Man]

Exactly. The reason the poverty cycle keeps growing is because the government has created and atmosphere for failure.

Back in the day women married because there wasn't a system in place to easily take care of people who couldn't cut it.

When my father first came from Grenada he said there wasn't any welfare system back home, you either worked or died. Right now you have generations of people that believe welfare is their birthright!

I personally know women who haven't worked a "job job" in 20 years and will tell you to ur face that as long as the check comes in and they get their "housing" they will never punch a clock.

I think you have so many people against the idea because it sounds like straight up Eugenics, Nazi racial science, even though W.E.B. Dubious supported such action to help the race

It women like you've mentioned, and these heifers who leave their kids to go on trips to Haiti or Africa that need their fucking tubes tied

All they produce is more damn souls into a fucked up situation, which in turn makes them either victims, or worse, predators on law abiding people

I'm not saying we should do it to all of them, but the ones who consistently make bad choices, and make kids for the paycheck and not having to work

Isnt how the state of things bad enough to warrant it

There was a story out of Chicago about a 28 yr old grandmother?

She had the kid at 13, that kid she had had a kid at 15...........are you fucking kidding me

How soon will we be seeing this shit become prevelent

The first step we can do before we go down that route is just cutting off general assistance, one kid limit, anymore, you are fucked

 

[DiamondDeuce]

SO what solutions do u have? Because the problem is getting worse everyday.

People fail to realize that the welfare system was created to BENEFIT the upper middle class. Welfare was created to pacify the poor..and keep them in their place. They figured it's more cost effective to give the poor a check and keep them isolated and HAPPY. Giving folks a check and keeping them isolated (public housing) and keeping them content GIVES YOU CONTROL and POWER over a group of people.

Here is how I would solve the problem:
Social programs should only exist to help people get on their feet.... that truly desire to do better. Example:

#1
A young single mother with 1 child is eligible to receive. A total of 36 months of benefits that include:
Federal assitance to attend a job training program
A tax exemption that allows less money to be deducted out of their check for 36 months (so baisically they get to keep nearly 100% of what they earn from WORKING).
Subsidized daycare for up to 36 months
Subsidized public housing for up to 36 months
WIC program for up to 36 months

The kicker here is that a person is only eligible for one benefit package that does not adjust. Meaning that if Laquesha has a 1 child and starts the program and receives $1500/month in total benefits that all she receives.....regardless of how many children she has AFTER THAT.
Cuz hell if you need help taking care of one.............why should we keep helping you to breed more?


#2
The only way that a woman can receive court order child support is through a DIVORCE.

what this means that if Laquesha lays has a baby with Pookie.........she can't get court ordered child support. If a woman's body is her body....and she chose to have a child, then legally another man should not be able to pay for the woman's decision.
Yet if a man married a woman then he has made a LEGAL obligation towards her and the child.

What this would do is force women who decide when they get pregnant to make better decisions...........which would ultimately make life better for EVERYONE involved.

 

[samh32]

SO what solutions do u have? Because the problem is getting worse everyday.

I got one!​

 

[MegaDell]

SO what solutions do u have? Because the problem is getting worse everyday.

If this were my job, I'd likely be able to think of something. But I mean, sterilizing people, while seeming terrible, is the lesser of whatever evils people can think of to deal with the problem.

I can't agree with saying it's okay to let a couple million people die so that eventually there won't be such a drain on tax dollars. Because just taking away a persons ability to survive, is gonna end up with them on the street, and not all of them are gonna be able to find the means to help themselves out of the gutter.

They are just gonna keep falling.

And with that, I'm going to bed.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

People fail to realize that the welfare system was created to BENEFIT the upper middle class. Welfare was created to pacify the poor..and keep them in their place. They figured it's more cost effective to give the poor a check and keep them isolated and HAPPY. Giving folks a check and keeping them isolated (public housing) and keeping them content GIVES YOU CONTROL and POWER over a group of people.

Here is how I would solve the problem:
Social programs should only exist to help people get on their feet.... that truly desire to do better. Example:

#1
A young single mother with 1 child is eligible to receive. A total of 36 months of benefits that include:
Federal assitance to attend a job training program
A tax exemption that allows less money to be deducted out of their check for 36 months (so baisically they get to keep nearly 100% of what they earn from WORKING).
Subsidized daycare for up to 36 months
Subsidized public housing for up to 36 months
WIC program for up to 36 months

The kicker here is that a person is only eligible for one benefit package that does not adjust. Meaning that if Laquesha has a 1 child and starts the program and receives $1500/month in total benefits that all she receives.....regardless of how many children she has AFTER THAT.
Cuz hell if you need help taking care of one.............why should we keep helping you to breed more?


#2
The only way that a woman can receive court order child support is through a DIVORCE.

what this means that if Laquesha lays has a baby with Pookie.........she can't get court ordered child support. If a woman's body is her body....and she chose to have a child, then legally another man should not be able to pay for the woman's decision.
Yet if a man married a woman then he has made a LEGAL obligation towards her and the child.

What this would do is force women who decide when they get pregnant to make better decisions...........which would ultimately make life better for EVERYONE involved.

I think solution #1 seems like a good idea, but how about requiring the recipient to have a steady IUD injection? (I don't know the technical term, but I'm referring to the contraceptive shot). That way she can't have a baby when she's on the dole, but once she gets back on her feet and hopefully starts a stable relationship she can still have more children after.

Not so confident in solution #2 though. Many stable common law couples choose not to get married because it would change the status of their relationship in a way that they aren't comfortable with. It's a reasonable concern. After all how many couples do you know that lived happily together for several years only to start fighting and having problems the moment they tied the knot? Also it takes too much of the weight off the fathers and may lead to even more illegitimate children.

It might be better to require a DNA test for all live births and only award child support when the father is identified on the birth certificates. If the father doesn't live with the child then he has to pay child support. No exceptions and nobody else. Marylou might think twice about sleeping with Cletus, the meth cook in row A lot 7, when she knows she won't be able to trick another man to pick up the baby tab. It would also make it a lot easier for single moms to find good husbands.

 

[MegaDell]

People fail to realize that the welfare system was created to BENEFIT the upper middle class. Welfare was created to pacify the poor..and keep them in their place. They figured it's more cost effective to give the poor a check and keep them isolated and HAPPY. Giving folks a check and keeping them isolated (public housing) and keeping them content GIVES YOU CONTROL and POWER over a group of people.

Here is how I would solve the problem:
Social programs should only exist to help people get on their feet.... that truly desire to do better. Example:

#1
A young single mother with 1 child is eligible to receive. A total of 36 months of benefits that include:
Federal assitance to attend a job training program
A tax exemption that allows less money to be deducted out of their check for 36 months (so baisically they get to keep nearly 100% of what they earn from WORKING).
Subsidized daycare for up to 36 months
Subsidized public housing for up to 36 months
WIC program for up to 36 months

The kicker here is that a person is only eligible for one benefit package that does not adjust. Meaning that if Laquesha has a 1 child and starts the program and receives $1500/month in total benefits that all she receives.....regardless of how many children she has AFTER THAT.
Cuz hell if you need help taking care of one.............why should we keep helping you to breed more?


#2
The only way that a woman can receive court order child support is through a DIVORCE.

what this means that if Laquesha lays has a baby with Pookie.........she can't get court ordered child support. If a woman's body is her body....and she chose to have a child, then legally another man should not be able to pay for the woman's decision.
Yet if a man married a woman then he has made a LEGAL obligation towards her and the child.

What this would do is force women who decide when they get pregnant to make better decisions...........which would ultimately make life better for EVERYONE involved.

Last I checked, it still took two to make a baby. Guys are just as responsible. It's his body, he should have used a condom, he should have pulled out, he should have whatever. But he didn't, so now he has to reap what he sowed, and that's a baby, and if he had bad judgement in who he went around fucking, fine, you can split up, but he went half in half with creating that shit, so he needs to take responsibility for his actions.

1st one good though.

 

[Megazell]

You don't have to sterlize anyone.

If you really want to see the "single mother" issue nipped in the bud - just do the following:

1) No Child Support For Any Parent Unless The Parents Were Married For More Than 1 Year.

2) No Tax Child Tax Break For Any Parent Unless The Parents are Married or Widowed.

3) First time abortions should be free and covered by medical insurance.

I am single father raising 2 girls on my own. I also do family court advocacy...If you disable a system that is easily abused things would get fixed up mighty quick.

My thoughts on number 1 is that parents (partners) should think long and hard before they think about bringing kids into this world - Ppl should be accountable period.

 

[Drayonis]

Last I checked, it still took two to make a baby. Guys are just as responsible. It's his body, he should have used a condom, he should have pulled out, he should have whatever. But he didn't, so now he has to reap what he sowed, and that's a baby, and if he had bad judgement in who he went around fucking, fine, you can split up, but he went half in half with creating that shit, so he needs to take responsibility for his actions.

1st one good though.

Oh I see where you're coming from. You're one of those soft on women types. How old are you if I might ask?

 

[hotair]

population control did work well in China
look where are they now

Worked well in China? It wrecked their cultural/familial establishment. Their equivalent to the Baby Boomers has far too many males to sustain the cultural norm of the female taking in their elderly parents. Now, these folks are all going to state run nursing homes, because of this. China is on the verge of reversing their policy on population control.

On the topic of single mothers and sterilization, I totally disagree with forcefully sterilizing anybody that has not committed a sexual crime. Instead, why not change policies that perpetuates this type of dysfunction? By and large, if given no social motivation to change, people are going to continue doing what they are presently doing.

 

[djrobertjohnson]

I agree with this white woman. Damn right, sterilized those damn losers.

woah, you need to learn your american history about eugenics before you start saying that shit. This is what the nazis wanted to do to breed people out and european kings before that. google eugenics or watch "endgame" by alex jones on google video