Instead of spending one ounce of energy worrying about some nameless, faceless woman who might be "getting over" on a sum that would still be less than minimum wage, you should spend it taking whatever God you worship that you can cut a check for 25k. But since you have the energy to spare, spend it focusing on the first two examples you used (which cost way more and are forms of welfare for the wealthy) than the last two.
Single Mothers should be Sterilized?
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Instead of spending one ounce of energy worrying about some nameless, faceless woman who might be "getting over" on a sum that would still be less than minimum wage, you should spend it taking whatever God you worship that you can cut a check for 25k. But since you have the energy to spare, spend it focusing on the first two examples you used (which cost way more and are forms of welfare for the wealthy) than the last two.
the issue should be personal responsibility. at some point, men and women have to take responisbility over there re-productive systems. ther reality is that very few single mother's or couples can take care of 5-6 kids. the blame falls on the individuals that made the decisions to have these children without any idea of how to take care of them. 
I have my own business too and just cut a check for $20K last week to the IRS, but it doesn't mean I want a fuckin' Nazi eugenics program set up in the country so I can save maybe $500 of that $20,000. It ain't that deep to me. We pay out more to the elderly and disabled through SS and Medicaire, should we just pull some Soylet Green type shit and grind up the elderly into sausage and feed them to the poor? They just came out and said like 40% of your tax dollar goes to the war and another 20% goes to corporate welfare and paying interest on debt, 6% goes to social programs (of which welfare, medicaid and section 8 are a small percentage within that number). So if you killed off, cut off or sterilized every single mother and child in this country, you would be writing a check for $24500 instead of $25000.
Exactly. And people are missing the BIGGER PICTURE here! If you wonder what's keeping our people in poverty you have to look at the birth rates of the impoverished.
I used to be an adult webmaster and many of the chicks I shot came straight from the projects. I would run into chicks that had 5-6 children for 5-6 different men raising their kids in the worst environments you can think of.
My sisters ex-best friend has 5 children for 4 men. She's bitter and angry at men yet last I heard she had gotten pregnant again. She blames the men for not taking care of her kids yet she won't look in the mirror at herself. She brags to people that she:
1. Doesn't have to work
2. Someone will take care of them
Even animal rights groups know that when dogs breed out of control it's the puppies that will suffer.
I really believe we need strong welfare reform along with education. We need to do these things in "tandem" if we want to see communities turn around.
Exactly. I'm self employed too. Most of these cats just have "jobs" so they have their taxes stolen from them at gun point. They don't understand or even pay attention to the amount of taxes wasted from their checks.
I'm not mad only at the women who game the system. I upset with a generation of black women who feel that they don't have to succeed or fight for success. A system is in place to entrench people in failure and some of us look at it like it's no big deal. All the while crime is out of control in some of these projects. Children ARE starving due to women who have too many kids to take care and choose not to.
The answer is not to really Sterilize anybody but instead look at what's an epidemic in some of the black communities around America.
When you grow up a little and then run into them. Come back and talk to me.
That's on point, but that's a whole different issue than this eugenics conversation we are having in this post. I guess the thing is, people make fucked up decisions, but I ain't mad at them because their decisions affect THEM and the little bit of my tax money that goes to helping them ain't enough for me to call for some extreme shit like forced sterilizations. I'm cool with Welfare reform, but all this other shit cats are getting into like being let off the hook for child support because the mother THEY LAID WITH is a supposed "hoodrat" and whatnot is complete bullshit.
What makes you think you are (or actually me and those in my age group, since your 19 and have yet to start actually paying for the programs you support) saying "fuck you" simply by not forcing one person to pay for another?
And if you want others to support them, you actually are exhibiting compassion for the kids, not the supporters. Why should we not make those that had them responsible for them, and if they can't be responsible, why should they have them ?
I'm not with the eugenics factor either, you're right. But I've got a question.
You meet a woman and become friends with her. She has 4 children for 4 different men. SHE ASKS YOU TO BORROW SOME MONEY? Out of being nice you loan it to (fuck let her have it's only change) then you find out she's pregnant again for another cat and your phone starts to ring. Caller ID it's her...what do you say to her? What advice would you give her?
The way you structured the question (Meet some woman), hell no and what advice could i give her if i just met her? It's not my business.
But I do have a cousin who I am very close with that has 6 kids by 6 different fathers and I have helped her for years and it only recently started to pay off (she has a decent job, her own crib and is doing pretty good these days). She basically had to suck it up and suffer until her kids got older because she was gonna stay broke having that many kids and no education. Her older sons basically see me as their father figure and now that they are doing their thing, they help their younger siblings as well. But I KNOW her, she's close family and I KNOW her circumstances, so I felt she deserved help from SOMEBODY. She's been on welfare at different times in her life, but she also is one of the hardest working people I know and every one of her kids is either in college, in the military or doing well in school, so I got no beef with her parenting skills. Better to help her stand up than put my foot on her neck and keep her down. I wish old girl nothing but the best, she's good people and her family situation doesn't change that as far as I'm concerned.
c/s
Man you can only explain so much to manginas, simps, & mama's boys you know they got to find out the hard way!
-->This shit is 360 so close thread!
The way you structured the question (Meet some woman), hell no and what advice could i give her if i just met her? It's not my business.
But I do have a cousin who I am very close with that has 6 kids by 6 different fathers and I have helped her for years and it only recently started to pay off (she has a decent job, her own crib and is doing pretty good these days). She basically had to suck it up and suffer until her kids got older because she was gonna stay broke having that many kids and no education. Her older sons basically see me as their father figure and now that they are doing their thing, they help their younger siblings as well. But I KNOW her, she's close family and I KNOW her circumstances, so I felt she deserved help from SOMEBODY. She's been on welfare at different times in her life, but she also is one of the hardest working people I know and every one of her kids is either in college, in the military or doing well in school, so I got no beef with her parenting skills. Better to help her stand up than put my foot on her neck and keep her down. I wish old girl nothing but the best, she's good people and her family situation doesn't change that as far as I'm concerned.
What caused your cousin to have so many kids with all thsoe different men? Did she ever figure to stop after the first and second one? what does she tell all her kids about their fathers and why she hd so many children?
c/s... why do we never talk about sterilizing the men. Women don't become single mothers on their own.
But i do not agree with sterilizing teenagers. Their decisions as a youth do not necessarily dictate their behaviors as adults.
It happened when she was young. She had her first kid when she was 12 and her second at 13 by a 30-something year old pedo piece of shit. Her mom's is a nutjob and a drunk and her pops died about a year before shit started going bad for her and her siblings (dad was keeping shit together). The response to her getting pregnant at 12 by a grown assed man was to blame her and not throw his pedo-ass in jail. I think it fucked her head up for a long time in her life. Her mother threw her out with her kids when she was 15, she dropped out of school, got a job and a spot and raised her kids. The other kids came later, I don't really know much about how those went down, but considering how shit started for her, I can't hate on her.
All of her kids know who their father's are, some have relationships with them, some don't (depends on the father), but she must be telling them something right because her oldest son is married and in the Air Force and has two kids, her oldest daughter is married, in college and has no kids and she has one 16 year old son who got a girl pregnant and stayed in school with a B average, got a job, got a crib and lives with the mother (he's already got plans to join the Air Force like his older brother). The other kids are all A students (even the one my family used to call a crack baby).
My shit with ALL these conversations is that if you don't know a person's situation, you shouldn't/ can't make blanket statements about who they are or how they should be dealt with.
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I'm not being soft on women. But a chick didn't make a baby with herself. The guy is just as responsible. Hell, if the guy is better to take care of the kid himself, than he should take the kid, and the woman should pay child support.
I'm just saying it takes two to make a kid. A joint effort, and in many cases, a joint mistake, a joint responsibility.
And I'm 19.
MD,
You have not lived enough to experience some shit yet. I used to feel the same way at your age.
Soon you will learn that WOMEN CONTROL when they have a baby. They decide who the fuck.......and who to have the kid by. Just watch you will see some chicks that you know now over the next few years pop out babies by dudes that you will be like
A baby is a like a damn bank account to some women. A chick in the hood can't do shit on her own. She gets knocked up she gets:
- To move away from her parents and get a crib on section 8
- Eligible for college grants and assitance
- WIC for groceries
- Childcare costs supplemented
- If she lucky a CHILD SUPPORT CHECK
So In her mind what are the negative consequences of having a child?
I'm not for sterilizing people. But if women are single THEY DO DECIDE IF THEY HAVE THE BABY BY THEMSELVES. Remember your body right...you choose
Damn....sterilizing sounds Nazi 
IMHO both the man and the women need TO MAN UP and take responsibilty.
People are gonna fuck regardless, so you can't change that.
As a man you need to wear them Jimmy Hats.
Fucking raw (especially with more partners) is like playing russian roulette in Vegas. What do think your chances are ?
Value yourself as human, don't let 50 min of sex fool make you blind.
Women also need to step up. You need to upgrade your Birth control game.
I haven't read one thing about it. Some women are lacking severly when it comes to this.
YOU BOTH NEED TO STEP IT UP.
Better be safe than sorry
IMHO both the man and the women need TO MAN UP and take responsibilty.
People are gonna fuck regardless, so you can't change that.
As a man you need to wear them Jimmy Hats.
Fucking raw (especially with more partners) is like playing russian roulette in Vegas. What do think your chances are ?
Value yourself as human, don't let 50 min of sex fool make you blind.
Women also need to step up. You need to upgrade your Birth control game.
I haven't read one thing about it. Some women are lacking severly when it comes to this.
YOU BOTH NEED TO STEP IT UP.
Better be safe than sorry
Even though this story has some happy endings. It still furthers my belief that women shouldn't have so many kids with dead beat losers. By your cousins age she's very lucky. The women I see in the same situation are no where coming out close to that.
MD,
You have not lived enough to experience some shit yet. I used to feel the same way at your age.
Soon you will learn that WOMEN CONTROL when they have a baby. They decide who the fuck.......and who to have the kid by. Just watch you will see some chicks that you know now over the next few years pop out babies by dudes that you will be like
A baby is a like a damn bank account to some women. A chick in the hood can't do shit on her own. She gets knocked up she gets:
- To move away from her parents and get a crib on section 8
- Eligible for college grants and assitance
- WIC for groceries
- Childcare costs supplemented
- If she lucky a CHILD SUPPORT CHECK
So In her mind what are the negative consequences of having a child?
co-sign. my ex her sister has five kids she gets 600 month in food stamps and this bitch know the the system will take care of her.
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