Single Mothers should be Sterilized?

[b0010100]

da fuck??!?!


you mean to tell me some of yall want the government to decide who to sterilize? maybe set a limit/law "over two and you get fixed?" whats the probability black women will be sterilized at 8 times the rate for white women? they incarcerate black men at an alrming rate NOW why would you want to give these crackers permission to do anything else to you?


SHIT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!


you think it costs too much money to pay for the kids? why not go after the Billions of dollars these political crooks take right out of you ass through taxes? oh i get it, don't bother the white man stealing all your money let's go stop those black people from breading!

GTFOH

 

[Drayonis]

Honestly I don't believe single mothers should be sterilized. I do understand what the woman was saying. Shocking as it is. We have an epidemic in our communities that needs to be taken seriously.

 

[Fuckallyall]

You're right, all that will happen, the only thing I'm talking about, is the transition time between what we have now, and what will EVENTUALLY, come about. People aren't gonna turn around in a day, a year, hell, maybe a decade.

They'll find themselves in a situation where obviously, they can't go back to dependence, but they lack the means to improve themselves at the same time.

It's easy to do better when you have the resources, but suddenly have those taken from under you and you're fucked.

I don't agree. You're more likely to do better when you have to, not want to. Neccessity is the mother of invention, not desire.

And, what makes you think that if you cut off the gov't spigot, charities won't step in ? They do now, and at a far greater efficiency than the Gov't.

Also, what makes you think life is built for everybody to make it ? We are not immune to the laws of nature.

This bleeding heart shit is fine and dandy, but it does not produce an atmosphere condusive to sucess. Determination does.

And before you go on the "you don't care" bullshit, I am a big believer in charity. But I HATE the fact that because of your pattern being prevalent, we successful are compelled to pay for the failures.

And the base reason for all of this irresponsible childbearing - what you subsidize, you get more of.

 

[Drayonis]

I don't agree. You're more likely to do better when you have to, not want to. Neccessity is the mother of invention, not desire.

And, what makes you think that if you cut off the gov't spigot, charities won't step in ? They do now, and at a far greater efficiency than the Gov't.

Also, what makes you think life is built for everybody to make it ? We are not immune to the laws of nature.

This bleeding heart shit is fine and dandy, but it does not produce an atmosphere condusive to sucess. Determination does.

And before you go on the "you don't care" bullshit, I am a big believer in charity. But I HATE the fact that because of your pattern being prevalent, we successful are compelled to pay for the failures.

And the base reason for all of this irresponsible childbearing - what you subsidize, you get more of.

Exactly. Some people are too damn liberal. There weakness doesn't bring out the best in people instead it fosters failure at it's highest order.

Instead of looking at welfare and poverty as something to avoid they make policies that enforce and trap people inside further.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I am tired of these women just popping out babies and not trying to use protection after that. WHY? WHY? Didn't you learn when your last baby daddy left you holding the bag?

You don't KEEP a man by having a kid. Nowadays that is the quickest thing to get him to leave.

Even though she's right I agree with her. When you know women (like I do) ones with 5 children for 5 different men (I know 3 different women like that, one of the women has 6 for 6 different men) you have to wonder.

If you EVER want to know why black children are being raised in poverty it's because of that bullshit. Like one of the other posters said, how many "mistakes" do you have to make?

Are you cats serious? Sterilize women who have children out of wedlock after the first child?

 

[Drayonis]

Are you cats serious? Sterilize women who have children out of wedlock after the first child?

No one said that. (I don't believe that) But when you are at your 3rd for 3 different men?

 

[mk23666]

Sterilize the dudes too.

 

[EATUGOOD1]

I agree. But they also need to sterilize the men with 6 and 7 kids.

Get em all so I can pay less in fuckin taxes as the responsible citizen that I am.

like someone else said, just cut off those checks and food stamps. that will stop shit real quick. and it couldnt be any deadbeat dads if those ho's would keep thier legs closed

 

[Clever]

Yeah, this has me scratching my head.

I have seen some crazy opinions on this board, where you think it's STORMFRONT or some Aryan Nation/White Supremacists forum.

I sure hope these are the "whites" because these attitudes toward single mothers are disturbing as HELL.

nah man, people[myself included] are tired of funding dumb decisions via federal taxes. Plain and simple.

And too many women are abusing that right. If you are poor and already on welfare why add to YOUR problem?

correction: OUR problem. Cause hardworking, condom using, not fucking with hoodrats brothas like me have to foot the bill for bullshit. Broke loose women that receive welfare, public housing etc arent paying for shit.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

No one said that. (I don't believe that) But when you are at your 3rd for 3 different men?

Okay Dray, but it seemed like you did when you said that woman was right.

Forced sterilization is not an appropriate answer for the ills you guys are bitching about.

Why just the mothers and not the fathers?

This is another example of how the powers-that-be play common people against each other. They give billion dollar industries even more billions in taxpayer subsidies and I don't see nearly the venom directed at those companies and their government henchmen that I see directed at a poor mother who's made horrible, self destructive choices.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

like someone else said, just cut off those checks and food stamps. that will stop shit real quick. and it couldnt be any deadbeat dads if those ho's would keep thier legs closed

That's a lie. You're either a deadbeat or you're not, who or what kind of woman/mother she is is irrelevant. You take care of your children and if she's really unfit, you get custody. It's never anyone else's fault if you are a fucked up parent.

 

[Clever]

It's a personal opinion. And most times personal opinions should be kept personal. If I made half of my opinion public I'd have 90% of social, ethnic, and religious groups picketing at my door.

...with that being said there is a large part of me that agrees with her.

No Mack its NOT a personal decision when the the tax paying PUBLIC has to foot the bill. These deadbeats spread their legs for any ole nicca and then bill ME for it. FUCK THAT!

 

[EATUGOOD1]

That's a lie. You're either a deadbeat or you're not, who or what kind of woman/mother she is is irrelevant. You take care of your children and if she's really unfit, you get custody. It's never anyone else's fault if you are a fucked up parent.

i'm rasing my kids but i could see where if i got some 1 night stand or jumpoff knocked up i wouuldnt want ANYTHING to do with the kid. sure i should of strapped up but i couldnt of fucked if she didnt give me the pussy

 

[MegaDell]

Oh I see where you're coming from. You're one of those soft on women types. How old are you if I might ask?

I'm not being soft on women. But a chick didn't make a baby with herself. The guy is just as responsible. Hell, if the guy is better to take care of the kid himself, than he should take the kid, and the woman should pay child support.

I'm just saying it takes two to make a kid. A joint effort, and in many cases, a joint mistake, a joint responsibility.

And I'm 19.

 

[MegaDell]

I don't agree. You're more likely to do better when you have to, not want to. Neccessity is the mother of invention, not desire.

And, what makes you think that if you cut off the gov't spigot, charities won't step in ? They do now, and at a far greater efficiency than the Gov't.

Also, what makes you think life is built for everybody to make it ? We are not immune to the laws of nature.

This bleeding heart shit is fine and dandy, but it does not produce an atmosphere condusive to sucess. Determination does.

And before you go on the "you don't care" bullshit, I am a big believer in charity. But I HATE the fact that because of your pattern being prevalent, we successful are compelled to pay for the failures.

And the base reason for all of this irresponsible childbearing - what you subsidize, you get more of.

Laws of nature? Man what the fuck do humans do that's "natural" anymore? What's "natural"? Technology has stepped in and said fuck you nature. Technology and plain ol human compassion, has the potential to at least provide the basics.

I've never been called a bleeding heart before. I personally have no compassion for those who wanna breed like rabbits while they can barely support themselves.

I just can't even for a generation, say fuck you to a couple million kids.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

i'm rasing my kids but i could see where if i got some 1 night stand or jumpoff knocked up i wouuldnt want ANYTHING to do with the kid. sure i should of strapped up but i couldnt of fucked if she didnt give me the pussy

That's the end of the sentence right there. The nigga should have strapped up. It's 2008, every one knows how it goes, so that circumstance you described has two assholes not one.

 

[EATUGOOD1]

That's the end of the sentence right there. The nigga should have strapped up. It's 2008, every one knows how it goes, so that circumstance you described has two assholes not one.

i agree.. but i still think its more on the female... she controls the pussy

 

[Drayonis]

And I'm 19.

I knew it. I sounded just like you when I was your age. Until I started actually being around women more and more. You haven't ran into the hood rats, skanks and gold diggers that I've had the pleasure of meeting in my lifetime.

Most people your age are still on some coom-bi-yah bullshit until you actually become a true adult . You're at a age where your tax dollars that come out of your check (if you have a job) doesn't really matter. I ran into a girl the other day (19 as well) that said I don't mind paying 50% of my check in taxes as long as it helps people.

You haven't seen women that have utterly no respect for themselves when it comes to having children and who they have them with.

When you get older your mind will change. Trust me....

 

[MegaDell]

And you control the dick, be responsibile with that thing between your legs.

 

[MegaDell]

I knew it. I sounded just like you when I was your age. Until I started actually being around women more and more. You haven't ran into the hood rats, skanks and gold diggers that I've had the pleasure of meeting in my lifetime.

You haven't seen women that have utterly no respect for themselves when ut comes to having children and who they have them with.

When you get older your mind will change. Trust me....

I'm not saying women who pop out babies aren't at fault, I'm just saying the men who knocked them up are just as much to blame.

 

[Drayonis]

i agree.. but i still think its more on the female... she controls the pussy

And she is also the one that will be stuck broke and poor struggling and stressed out with the kids.

 

[Drayonis]

I'm not saying women who pop out babies aren't at fault, I'm just saying the men who knocked them up are just as much to blame.

And you also believe that it's up to US the tax payers to support them. Do you even have a job or do you live with your parents still? (Not trying to clown you but you sound extremely sheltered).

 

[Upgrade Dave]

i agree.. but i still think its more on the female... she controls the pussy

But the man controls the dick which, last I checked, controls the semen.

 

[femmenoire]

like someone else said, just cut off those checks and food stamps. that will stop shit real quick. and it couldnt be any deadbeat dads if those ho's would keep thier legs closed

I agree with you. I don't think women should be fucking period.

We got a whole generation that needs to die off anyway.

 

[EATUGOOD1]

And she is also the one that will be stuck broke and poor struggling and stressed out with the kids.

i agree again.. judging from some of your post i can tell you make a good living, so i doubt u come in contact with alot of hoodrats. trust me, some of thsse chicks are doing fine. they dont pay anything for housing, get money for food(stamps) and get money from the govt (state and local)

 

[DAYNE]

woah, you need to learn your american history about eugenics before you start saying that shit. This is what the nazis wanted to do to breed people out and european kings before that. google eugenics or watch "endgame" by alex jones on google video

I know my history, and I'm tired of seeing women having kids who can't properly raise them.

 

[MegaDell]

No, I have no had extended interactions with these gold digging ghetto skanks you speak of, or the wannabe thugs who knock them up.

We both agree something has to be done, I'm just taking the more libby side, you're taking the conservative side. Kinda.

Yea, I have a job pt job, and I go to school.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I agree with you. I don't think women should be fucking period.

We got a whole generation that needs to die off anyway.

This is sarcasm, right Fem?

 

[Clever]

I respect a womans decision to have multiple children out of wedlock, w/e. Dont care either way. The problem isnt THE decision, but rather who PAYS for the decision.

Woman who make the SAME dumb decison over and over get a free ride under the current system. I make the same bad business decision over and over and I'm out of business. Who bails ME out?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I respect a womans decision to have multiple children out of wedlock, w/e. Dont care either way. The problem isnt THE decision, but rather who PAYS for the decision.

Woman who make the SAME dumb decison over and over get a free ride under the current system. I make the same bad business decision over and over and I'm out of business. Who bails ME out?

Do you really think having children and being poor is a "free ride"?

 

[Clever]

Do you really think having children and being poor is a "free ride"?

Sure, monthly income, housing, food, all that you didnt earn is a "free ride". There's no threshold before something becomes a "free ride" or not, either you earned it or you didn't.

 

[Zero]

There are poor 2 parent families on aid as well, should they be sterilized? What about the working poor that don't ask for shit? What about in this sinking economy? Should a single mother who just lost her job due to recession be sterilized because she finds herself suddenly poor?

Or is this 100% about so-called "hoodrats"?

And the cats that are saying child support should be cut off are damn fools. How the hell should the FATHER of the child in question be let off the hook? Or should they just make back child support a class A felony and put them in prison until the kid is 18? Seems fair, if the mother has to be sterilized and the kid has to starve, shouldn't the deadbeat ass father pay a debt to society too?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Sure, monthly income, housing, food, all that you didnt earn is a "free ride". There's no threshold before something becomes a "free ride" or not, either you earned it or you didn't.

That's shortsighted thinking that let emotion override good sense.

The Wife and I work nearly every day to maintain a decent lifestyle and I wouldn't change it with one of these women you say is getting a free ride. Most of us wouldn't. This resentment, as I said earlier, is misplaced.

 

[Clever]

That's shortsighted thinking that let emotion override good sense.

The Wife and I work nearly every day to maintain a decent lifestyle and I wouldn't change it with one of these women you say is getting a free ride. Most of us wouldn't. This resentment, as I said earlier, is misplaced.

Sigh, I guess since I have my own business I'm more sensitive to govt waste, and folks just plain "getting over." Some of yall will never feel the pain of having to write out a $25,000 check made payable to the "United States Treasury". Having to break bread like that will have you second guessing alot of shit the US Govt does: war in Iraq, govt contractors, welfare, section 8, etc.

 

[ljinsane]

There ya go! We can't just keep blaming women. But I hope you guys realize that black people will be the main targets of this.

...bullshit

http://forums.gainesville.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8591089265/m/7131092117

http://shailja.com/news/newsletterblog/2006/01/abortion-have-we-gone-too-far.html

Fuck it, lets just blame the victim......

...bullshit

I agree. But they also need to sterilize the men with 6 and 7 kids.

Get em all so I can pay less in fuckin taxes as the responsible citizen that I am.

Co fucking sign.....

no body is blaming women...get off that shit..its that same attidude that excuses them having more than 1 baby out out of wedlock or by multiple men...gtfoh

Now there are some dumb ass niggas out there too....my oldest daughter biological father is a good example...nigga got kids all over the place...hell when my lady was pregnant with my oldest he had another girl pregnant at the same time..straight morey povich show shit...we just had our 1st and last child together a year ago...my lady was smart and got those tubes cut and burnt right after my daughter was born