Shedeur Sanders Is Being Blackballed

[^SpiderMan^]

What is the basis of your prediction for Dillon Gabriel beating our Shedeur? Just curious…

I know it’s not because Dillon Gabriel ran a pro-style offense successively or proved he could play under center. I know it’s not because of his elite athleticism. At 5’11 with a moderate arm, didn’t really wow college with his athleticism.

But I’m sure there’s a well thought out reason to think that.

I've repeatedly said that I don't believe Shedeur to be a good NFL prospect. Alot of his momentum is due to his Father. His father is also a reason analysts aren't really critiquing him publicly. Shedeur had good stats, but there were QBs who had better But to answer your question directly and compare Shedeur Sanders to Dillon Gabriel as NFL prospects:

1.) Gabriel has faster processing and decision making.
Gabriel gets the ball out quickly and makes fast reads in rhythm based offenses (UCF,Oklahoma, and Oregon).
Shedeur often holds the ball too long resulting in excessive sacks and missed opportunities. This tendency is punished in the NFL.

2.) Gabriel has more experience in multiple systems.
Gabriel played under multiple offensive coordinators across 3 major programs giving him a broader exposure to different schemes and NFL style reads. Shedeur has only played for his Father who tailored every offense he played in to HIS strengths.

3.) Gabriel has a quicker release and footwork.
Gabriel has a compact throwing motion and quick release. This works great with his smaller frame similar to how Drew Brees and Tuas succeeded. Shedeur has a slower release and his footwork is inconsistent under pressure. He has a habit of bailing backwards when the pocket collapses which is a major red flag. He is not athletic and mobile enough to make up for this in the NFL.

4.) Gabriel is tougher and more durable.
Gabriel played through injuries including a brocken clavicle and continued to play at a high level. Shedeur was frequently injured in 2023 and struggled with durability concerns.

5.) Gabriel has experience competing for his spot.
Gabriel competed for and won the starting QB spot at UCF, Oklahoma, and Oregon. These are top tier D1 programs. Think about this, the FIRST time Shedeur will ever legit compete for his spot will be in the NFL. His Father was the coach throughout High School and college. In college, he played at Jackson State against lower level competition and his dad brought higher level talent and coaches to tailor the offense to his strengths. Then at Colorado, his dad was again the coach and brought talent and coaches to tailor the offenses to his strengths both years. This will be the first time that he has to legit learn and offense that is not built around him and he has to legitimately compete. It will be an uphill battle for him because of the reasons above.

 

[geechiedan]

THIS was take I was waiting for...the ONLY person who can speak on it!

 

[dtownsfinest]

I've repeatedly said that I don't believe Shedeur to be a good NFL prospect. Alot of his momentum is due to his Father. His father is also a reason analysts aren't really critiquing him publicly. Shedeur had good stats, but there were QBs who had better But to answer your question directly and compare Shedeur Sanders to Dillon Gabriel as NFL prospects:

1.) Gabriel has faster processing and decision making.
Gabriel gets the ball out quickly and makes fast reads in rhythm based offenses (UCF,Oklahoma, and Oregon).
Shedeur often holds the ball too long resulting in excessive sacks and missed opportunities. This tendency is punished in the NFL.

2.) Gabriel has more experience in multiple systems.
Gabriel played under multiple offensive coordinators across 3 major programs giving him a broader exposure to different schemes and NFL style reads. Shedeur has only played for his Father who tailored every offense he played in to HIS strengths.

3.) Gabriel has a quicker release and footwork.
Gabriel has a compact throwing motion and quick release. This works great with his smaller frame similar to how Drew Brees and Tuas succeeded. Shedeur has a slower release and his footwork is inconsistent under pressure. He has a habit of bailing backwards when the pocket collapses which is a major red flag. He is not athletic and mobile enough to make up for this in the NFL.

4.) Gabriel is tougher and more durable.
Gabriel played through injuries including a brocken clavicle and continued to play at a high level. Shedeur was frequently injured in 2023 and struggled with durability concerns.

5.) Gabriel has experience competing for his spot.
Gabriel competed for and won the starting QB spot at UCF, Oklahoma, and Oregon. These are top tier D1 programs. Think about this, the FIRST time Shedeur will ever legit compete for his spot will be in the NFL. His Father was the coach throughout High School and college. In college, he played at Jackson State against lower level competition and his dad brought higher level talent and coaches to tailor the offense to his strengths. Then at Colorado, his dad was again the coach and brought talent and coaches to tailor the offenses to his strengths both years. This will be the first time that he has to legit learn and offense that is not built around him and he has to legitimately compete. It will be an uphill battle for him because of the reasons above.

Not only all of this but he’s gonna get more opportunity due to him being a 3rd rounder. He’s gonna get more chances then Shedeur.

 

[jawnswoop]

THIS was take I was waiting for...the ONLY person who can speak on it!

Yeah, I'm cool with him speaking on this as well.

 

[DC_Dude]

 

[roblo]

This kind of shit didn't help.

 

[Day_Carver]

Interesting interaction.

lol lol lol lol

 

[Day_Carver]

I agree a little bit that they overplayed their hand! Narrowing the teams hurt him as well; and the interview process didn’t help him either; saying that the nfl can’t or won’t collude I disagree; not saying they did but they can or would if they wanted to! Sanders family didn’t do them no favors!

One would think every parent wants the best for his kids! Now how they go about it is a different story…

 

[playahaitian]

I’m shocked that you ain’t post ya manz @playahaitian

I know I seem like AI but I can't be every where.

Bo no kids having ass always seems to be off on these topics. I ain't like his Bronny take or his Sanders take that's well documented.

But I HEAR his overall point here I still disagree with him.

 

[jawnswoop]

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Not only all of this but he’s gonna get more opportunity due to him being a 3rd rounder. He’s gonna get more chances then Shedeur.

Valid point, but I don’t want this to be an excuse. Plenty of late round picks have made it. Including Brady. If Shedeur gets out there and plays well, he will get opportunities and can be a Starter. The Browns is actually one of the best opportunities available because they don’t have consistency at QB. I predict Shedeur not playing well and having an attitude about it. I also predict that everyone else will be blamed for it as been done historically with Shedeur. Racism, not liking Deon, the OC, WB coach, Head Coach, the system etc. Somebody other than Shedeur will be blamed for his outcome in Cleveland. Watch.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Valid point, but I don’t want this to be an excuse. Plenty of late round picks have made it. Including Brady. If Shedeur gets out there and plays well, he will get opportunities and can be a Starter. The Browns is actually one of the best opportunities available because they don’t have consistency at QB. I predict Shedeur not playing well and having an attitude about it. I also predict that everyone else will be blamed for it as been done historically with Shedeur. Racism, not liking Deon, the OC, WB coach, Head Coach, the system etc. Somebody other than Shedeur will be blamed for his outcome in Cleveland. Watch.

Naw we can’t say plenty though. It’s incredibly tough to make a roster as the 4th quarterback.

I’ll use two examples Purdy and Dak. Dak never gets a shot if Kellen Moore and Romo don’t get hurt. It took two niggas to get hurt for it to happen.

Jimmy G and Lance had to get hurt.z


Not saying he can’t do it. But the league is so political….

I heard them speak on it on Acho show that I didn’t know. The starter gets most of the reps, the backup gets even less then the 3rd stringer gets what is left. Which leaves scraps. And Browns coach trying to win now. It’s gonna be a rough uphill battle.

 

[kesq]

Naw we can’t say plenty though. It’s incredibly tough to make a roster as the 4th quarterback.

I’ll use two examples Purdy and Dak. Dak never gets a shot if Kellen Moore and Romo don’t get hurt. It took two niggas to get hurt for it to happen.

Jimmy G and Lance had to get hurt.z


Not saying he can’t do it. But the league is so political….

I heard them speak on it on Acho show that I didn’t know. The starter gets most of the reps, the backup gets even less then the 3rd stringer gets what is left. Which leaves scraps. And Browns coach trying to win now. It’s gonna be a rough uphill battle.

This fan would be in favor of that bc after he does the groveling routine in Cleveland, owners will probably be satisfied that he "learned his lesson", and he can sign with a better organization with a better opportunity. That's often the case with low picks, and they quickly learn that they might have been better off as an UFA where you have some degree of choice as to where to go.

Obviously, I hope Cleveland cuts his ass so he can go to the Raiders.

 

[Day_Carver]

Valid point, but I don’t want this to be an excuse. Plenty of late round picks have made it. Including Brady. If Shedeur gets out there and plays well, he will get opportunities and can be a Starter. The Browns is actually one of the best opportunities available because they don’t have consistency at QB. I predict Shedeur not playing well and having an attitude about it. I also predict that everyone else will be blamed for it as been done historically with Shedeur. Racism, not liking Deon, the OC, WB coach, Head Coach, the system etc. Somebody other than Shedeur will be blamed for his outcome in Cleveland. Watch.

Not only all of this but he’s gonna get more opportunity due to him being a 3rd rounder. He’s gonna get more chances then Shedeur.

Actually he wont because the kid cant play! Its a wasted pic and still doesnt make sense; they should have never drafted him in any round; let alone the 3rd....

 

[Day_Carver]

This kind of shit didn't help.

Some dumb shit for sure; and they paid the price for this as well...

 

[Day_Carver]

Naw its not and it wont work! there will be players after him that do the same shit; and might not be affected as Sanders was; again Sanders wasnt a sure fire pick! he has talent and he should have been drafted before the 5th fucking round; but he wasnt regarded as a sure fire qb!

 

[Day_Carver]

Interesting interaction.

yo this shit crazy yo

 

[jawnswoop]

 

[Ninja05]

I've repeatedly said that I don't believe Shedeur to be a good NFL prospect. Alot of his momentum is due to his Father. His father is also a reason analysts aren't really critiquing him publicly. Shedeur had good stats, but there were QBs who had better But to answer your question directly and compare Shedeur Sanders to Dillon Gabriel as NFL prospects:

1.) Gabriel has faster processing and decision making.
Gabriel gets the ball out quickly and makes fast reads in rhythm based offenses (UCF,Oklahoma, and Oregon).
Shedeur often holds the ball too long resulting in excessive sacks and missed opportunities. This tendency is punished in the NFL.

2.) Gabriel has more experience in multiple systems.
Gabriel played under multiple offensive coordinators across 3 major programs giving him a broader exposure to different schemes and NFL style reads. Shedeur has only played for his Father who tailored every offense he played in to HIS strengths.

3.) Gabriel has a quicker release and footwork.
Gabriel has a compact throwing motion and quick release. This works great with his smaller frame similar to how Drew Brees and Tuas succeeded. Shedeur has a slower release and his footwork is inconsistent under pressure. He has a habit of bailing backwards when the pocket collapses which is a major red flag. He is not athletic and mobile enough to make up for this in the NFL.

4.) Gabriel is tougher and more durable.
Gabriel played through injuries including a brocken clavicle and continued to play at a high level. Shedeur was frequently injured in 2023 and struggled with durability concerns.

5.) Gabriel has experience competing for his spot.
Gabriel competed for and won the starting QB spot at UCF, Oklahoma, and Oregon. These are top tier D1 programs. Think about this, the FIRST time Shedeur will ever legit compete for his spot will be in the NFL. His Father was the coach throughout High School and college. In college, he played at Jackson State against lower level competition and his dad brought higher level talent and coaches to tailor the offense to his strengths. Then at Colorado, his dad was again the coach and brought talent and coaches to tailor the offenses to his strengths both years. This will be the first time that he has to legit learn and offense that is not built around him and he has to legitimately compete. It will be an uphill battle for him because of the reasons above.

I want you to read what you typed. Sometimes we have a conclusion and then try to meld facts rather than the other way around.

1. In what world does a well known, predetermined, spread offense like Oklahoma or Oregon = reading defenses? I can’t speak for UCF but those two colleges are not known for producing NFL-ready qbs with pro-ready games. A ton of QBs looked great in that same style offense because they had great athletes that win 1 on 1. It was the knock on Jaxson Dart and Quinn Ewers…folks were wondering if scheme was greater than talent. Was Gabriel throwing to wide open receivers (based on scheme and their talent) or throwing receivers open? Now, watch tape of Shedeur. Throwing to a 5”8 receiver and a great athlete.

2. Those multiple systems were not NFL-style systems.

3. Gabriel may have a quicker release and quicker footwork, but definitely not better footwork. Vick had quicker footwork than Brady. I’m concerned with how quickly and EFFECTIVELY can you get outta the break. We will see but let’s no go too far here mayne.

4. Shadeur took an ass whooping like he was online for the past two years. You can argue he held on the ball for too long (in total agreement) but tougher? C’man man. Stop it. It’s hard to knock him for holding onto the ball and taking unecessary sacks and then say someone is tougher. Ninja broke his back last year and we found out in the offseason.

5. Can’t knock the competition angle. Agree with you there.

I like Gabriel and was rooting for the West Coast squad but I think we are gonna have to just check in during the season (as long as it is a fair comp). We will see, but you are laying it on so thick one would think he Gabriel was a 1st round talent.

 

[BlackGoku]

I know I seem like AI but I can't be every where.

Bo no kids having ass always seems to be off on these topics. I ain't like his Bronny take or his Sanders take that's well documented.

But I HEAR his overall point here I still disagree with him.

Gotta remember the caveat of his overall feelings on both Bron and Coach Prime..so I always try to keep that in the back of my mind when hearing him talk about either one

 

[Politic Negro]

Interesting interaction.

Still can't get over the fact Ward started as a wing-T QB.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Wait, I thought bgol said only Eli manning and white people only get away with denying teams and still get drafted high.. bgol lied to me..wait who did this and still got top 5 pick…. Drumroll please










Bgol I trustedddd youuu

 

[tallblacknyc]

Valid point, but I don’t want this to be an excuse. Plenty of late round picks have made it. Including Brady. If Shedeur gets out there and plays well, he will get opportunities and can be a Starter. The Browns is actually one of the best opportunities available because they don’t have consistency at QB. I predict Shedeur not playing well and having an attitude about it. I also predict that everyone else will be blamed for it as been done historically with Shedeur. Racism, not liking Deon, the OC, WB coach, Head Coach, the system etc. Somebody other than Shedeur will be blamed for his outcome in Cleveland. Watch.

Man even if this nig is a career backup qb he still can make millions a yr.. some of these backups making 4-6 million a yr.. how many people on this board would hold a tablet as a backup for the next 20 yrs making 4-6 million a yr.. the backup qb was the secret white goldmine for decades nigs making millions holding up notepads and almost playing no downs.. you know what I call that? Free money.. get that free money nig

 

[geechiedan]

Man even if this nig is a career backup qb he still can make millions a yr.. some of these backups making 4-6 million a yr.. how many people on this board would hold a tablet as a backup for the next 20 yrs making 4-6 million a yr.. the backup qb was the secret white goldmine for decades nigs making millions holding up notepads and almost playing no downs.. you know what I call that? Free money.. get that free money nig

thats free money for YOU..thats a failure career for the son of Deion PRIME TIME Sanders.....especially considering how they approached his school career and draft...clearly they have extremely high expectations for Shedeur.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Actually he wont because the kid cant play! Its a wasted pic and still doesnt make sense; they should have never drafted him in any round; let alone the 3rd....

Naw I don’t know if he good or bad but you better believe they gonna justify using a 3rd on him.

 

[tallblacknyc]

thats free money for YOU..thats a failure career for the son of Deion PRIME TIME Sanders.....especially considering how they approached his school career and draft...clearly they have extremely high expectations for Shedeur.

How is he a failure if he in the nfl? There’s backups that made more money than he made in college as a star.. if he was the backup for mahommes these past several yrs he would be a 3 time champion..would you call that a failure I think not.. most great athletes sons usually never outshine them.. it’s usually the dad was ok and their son is great or the father is great and the son is ok.. wouldn’t be the first or last, at the end of the day he already a millionaire and if he became a career backup he make more millions how is that a failure?

 

[geechiedan]

How is he a failure if he in the nfl? There’s backups that made more money than he made in college as a star.. if he was the backup for mahommes these past several yrs he would be a 3 time champion..would you call that a failure I think not.. most great athletes sons usually never outshine them.. it’s usually the dad was ok and their son is great or the father is great and the son is ok.. wouldn’t be the first or last, at the end of the day he already a millionaire and if he became a career backup he make more millions how is that a failure?

because Deion didnt GROOM his son to be a career back up quarterback. If that were the case that he realistically saw something like that for Shaduer he wouldn't have said



ironically if Prime HADN'T said that and they played it cool..Shadeur would have probably when a high 2nd round pick at WORST. Aint nobody put in all that work just for him to end up a back up clipboard carrying nobody watching it from side lines. Thats not what they got TOM BRADY to train him for. Cmon dude whose being argumentative now

 

[tallblacknyc]

because Deion didnt GROOM his son to be a career back up quarterback. If that were the case that he realistically saw something like that for Shaduer he wouldn't have said



ironically if Prime HADN'T said that and they played it cool..Shadeur would have probably when a high 2nd round pick at WORST. Aint nobody put in all that work just for him to end up a back up clipboard carrying nobody watching it from side lines. Thats not what they got TOM BRADY to train him for. Cmon dude whose being argumentative now

How is he a nobody? He's deion sanders son that already put his name on the map. He seems to want to rap , so he can make money off that or get his name out of that. You act like he can't turn his millions into other shit that will make him big.. he'd be getting a consistent check and flipping it into other things.. he was build to be a "star" his name already rung bells, he already in the NFL , he already got a clothing line. Mission accomplished.. Steve Kerr was a career benchman that never averaged 10 points in a season and yet everyone knows who he is, look how he turned one shot into a broadcasting career, coaching gig and because his coaching stats will more likely get into the hall of fame.. is he a "nobody"

 

[geechiedan]

How is he a nobody? He's deion sanders son that already put his name on the map. He seems to want to rap , so he can make money off that or get his name out of that. You act like he can't turn his millions into other shit that will make him big.. he'd be getting a consistent check and flipping it into other things.. he was build to be a "star" his name already rung bells, he already in the NFL , he already got a clothing line. Mission accomplished..

Thats his FATHER's name that did all that. A career up to this point carefully curated by HIS FATHER...Shadeur is a text book NEPOBABY...everything thats he's gotten has been based off his DEION'S name. He's no different than Bronny in that regard.

Steve Kerr was a career benchman that never averaged 10 points in a season and yet everyone knows who he is, look how he turned one shot into a broadcasting career, coaching gig and because his coaching stats will more likely get into the hall of fame.. is he a "nobody"

whose Steve Kerr's daddy....I'll wait.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[tallblacknyc]

Thats his FATHER's name that did all that. A career up to this point carefully curated by HIS FATHER...Shadeur is a text book NEPOBABY...everything thats he's gotten has been based off his DEION'S name. He's no different than Bronny in that regard.

whose Steve Kerr's daddy....I'll wait.

He's a millionaire off his father's name and off his talent how is that being a nobody? You said he be a nobody backup when he was a star in college, he's a millionaire cause he was a star in college and under his father .. who would be mad to be in his position? Whether he's a backup or starter he's gonna make millions more.. plus he has other things that generate money for him.. as far as bronny there's tons of people would love to be in his shoes hell ud love to be in his shoes

 

[playahaitian]

Gotta remember the caveat of his overall feelings on both Bron and Coach Prime..so I always try to keep that in the back of my mind when hearing him talk about either one

^^^^

 

[geechiedan]

 

[geechiedan]

He's a millionaire off his father's name and off his talent how is that being a nobody? You said he be a nobody backup when he was a star in college, he's a millionaire cause he was a star in college and under his father .. who would be mad to be in his position? Whether he's a backup or starter he's gonna make millions more.. plus he has other things that generate money for him.. as far as bronny there's tons of people would love to be in his shoes hell ud love to be in his shoes

being a bench warming asst is being nobody...thats not what he trained for and you know this. and youre right I'd love to get paid millions being a clipboard carrier but then I'm not trying to a star quarterback in the NFL...

Shadeurs brand for himself is called LEGENDARY....

THIS is NOT legendary in fact this is the OPPOSITE of legendary. Doesnt matter that he's getting paid 3-4 million for it...as you pointed out he's already rich so its not about the money.

quick...whats this guy's name??

 

[tallblacknyc]

being a bench warming asst is being nobody...thats not what he trained for and you know this. and youre right I'd love to get paid millions being a clipboard carrier but then I'm not trying to a star quarterback in the NFL...

Shadeurs brand for himself is called LEGENDARY....

THIS is NOT legendary in fact this is the OPPOSITE of legendary. Doesnt matter that he's getting paid 3-4 million for it...as you pointed out he's already rich so its not about the money.

quick...whats this guy's name??

So if he sells 100+ millions of dollars worth of merch each yr for the next 10-20 yrs is that not legendary? If he opened up a fast food chain and it makes 100 millions of dollars a yr is that not legendary? If he comes out with multiple rap albulms and they all go platinum is that legendary? Who said you have to be one dimensional and can’t be versatile with your success and portfolio.. he was a star in college and millions “legendary”, he made it to the nfl “legendary” , his clothing line about to make millions “legendary”.. how many people you personally know that did those things? Not legendary.. what percentage of the population did those things..not legendary.. he got a multiple page thread about him getting picked in a later rounds how many other draft pics this yr got their own thread? Legendary.. who’s the most talked about pic this draft even though he wasn’t number 1? Legendary.. he already accomplished a lot..Deion already did his job.. got both his sons in college and the nfl..legendary..also made them millionaire legendary.. so nobody who? How many threads we dedicated to you this past week? Not legendary..whose the nobody now lol