Roland Martin fires shots at Tariq, Jason Black and all ‘don’t voters’
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ya know ? funny thing is , if u let that video played for 3mins more u would hear the actual sensible facts & figures Roland is spitting! u might not always ride with him 100% but i know Roland's heart and work is in the right place, he's never disrespected any black person and he takes on all comers with facts & history and precedent ,
i like a mature fact based position than a emotional one, Tariq thinks he's winning but he's dragging himself lower & lower with this shenanigans, and I've always been one of the few folks who used to back him up on these streets , look Roland never came for them , he never mocked them , he simply stood his ground on his belief on why black folks should vote without disparaging anyone
I have a lot of respect for Roland. Trust that bruh. That brother has schooled many a challenger. Tariq can't get on his level so he just attacks the dudes looks and whatever. #pathetic.
I used to like Tariq's stuff back in the day but over the years? Naw....Tariq has proven that he isn't a leader.
It doesn't bother you that the gays and latinos whom currently are THE main focus for the Dems arent even voting with full (90%) support like Black people are. ?Lol
Ok brah. Keep up the good fight. I'm sure they'll recognize our dedication soon and not later
Do Tariq really got the streets?
Tariq will be 50 next year, married to a biracial woman, who's white mother lives with them, in an exclusive part of LA. I'm not knocking Tariq's success but Tariq is long disconnected from the hood and given his upbringing in Alabama, it seems he only saw any real hood shit when moved to LA, he chose the hood, that's different from the rest of use of who were born into the shit.
I wouldn't say gay and Hispanic folks are the main focus. They are the main ones who make sure their issues get heard. More so the gay folks as the immigration issue is related to non citizens and some Hispanics don't even want them here. We don't have folks, to my knowledge, going hard outside of the color of change group and one or two others. According to info on line, the majority of gay folks vote dem.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...xual-voters-remain-a-solidly-democratic-bloc/
Leader? I was just willing to accept him as a commentator on topics. Now he is in full huckster mode (Cop that Mink Slide). The dont vote crew's logic is really thin, and its virtually impossible to defend. No he's trying to co-opt Yvette Carnell's theme of Descendents of Slaves (DOS). He doesn't write, can't debate, all he has is the high school roasting mentality.
^^^^That's it right there!
Dude can't ever debate someone on substance, instead it's attacks on your looks (people laugh) and he runs around the ring like he won. I know he's a bgol member (or was) he uses the same corny tactics a lot of dudes on here use.
My point is we give 90% vote and get 3% resources*
These other groups give 50% vote and get 90% resources*
Now that’s a good point. We need to define WHAT the black communities want. More than prison reform. There should be an immediate release of o all prisoners jailed on weed charges. Plus some type of stipend. Extra funding of urban public schools. Increased HBCU funding. College loan buybacks. Urban resident investment programs Low cost banking programs to allow long income citizens get a method to save money without being hit with fees every month. Settle the black farmers lawsuits. Healthcare for all. Free community college. Caps on college tuition costs. Manidate that all municipal contracts hire 30% of residents or face punitive penalties.
“But these programs aren’t specifically for black folks”.
“Obama ain’t do nothing for black folks”
“There’s no black media”
“Gays and Hispanic get more attention “
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Whenever I ask these dudes what are the list of demands I get no answers. And the few times I do get an answer it's either shit that we know will never happen or the answers are different everytime.
Black folks aren't monolithic. We all have different lives and concerns. Some want reparations, some want criminal justice reforms, others want things like "the cops need to stop shooting us" (how you legislate that action politically is beyond me).
Not having "a specific list" of things that we want that we can all get behind is a major part of the problem. Not voting definitely won't get that list answerd for sure though.
atleast YOU HAVE A LIST other than the bottom part !
im gonna ask these dudes who in here to copy your list and then defend their positions and how obama and dems aint do anything for us but gays & immigrants .
but u know what ? i bet they wont even bother to read that far!
or they gonna say these dont SPECIFICALLY CATER TO NATIVE BLACKS OR DOS(The new got to term for these dudes)
How much pressure is each group putting on politicians to get them to comply? How much money are they contributing to campaigns in support of someone who helps or against someone who doesn't? We aren't strategic as a group like they are when it comes to making demands. We vote and that's it.
The voting is important to keep out of power those who would purposely legislate harm, dems at least don't actively work against us, but politicians are only responsive to groups who get in their ass or send them money, and as a bloc we do neither.
Yes he does, he doesn't need to fit in socially with the street, he speaks from a grassroots level and people who follow him see that.
Roland is corporate America and nothing is wrong with that but you not trying to lose what someone has given you so yeah, Tariq if he keeps pushing this point he will always have a space. Malcolm was considered grassroots for a while as well.
It's not so much about the white women or anything of that matter, it's the content and the ability to relate that's key and that's what Tariq does, he doesn't need to be intellectual like Roland Martin, he's destroying him with facts about politics and black folks....
Classism = racism , same shit bro no offense
All your supporting is class seperation, that nigga in the hood ain't getting no love from Barack or none of them niggas period, he sees that now and acts accordinly.
Roland still looking a job and looking for something to do, his youtube following isn't sustainable.
Brain Kemp doesn't walk around sounding intellect even when he actually is, Roy Moore pulled up to work on a horse when he's a damn millionare.
These crackers know how to advertise properly to get the vote.
so becos roland is a graduate and he spits facts and figures, he aint street?
or shouldn't be taken seriously , even tho' he brings receipts and not puppetry ?
training is charlatan at this point and is starting to border on troll territory ,
how do u reckon this non-intellectual stance he takes with being effective in the long run?
on one hand we say kids should get education to combat illiteracy and understand and know more about how the world works beyond the hood one other hand u make it seem as if Roland is outta touch , did u sayabout Tariq "he's destroying him with facts about politics and black folks" how so ? tariq is destroying Roland with fact about politics and black folks ?
so we have to be crackers ?
im not getting ur drift bruh
Yeah. You're either trolling or highly delusional. I'm leaning towards both.
so becos roland is a graduate and he spits facts and figures, he aint street?
or shouldn't be taken seriously , even tho' he brings receipts and not puppetry ?
training is charlatan at this point and is starting to border on troll territory ,
how do u reckon this non-intellectual stance he takes with being effective in the long run?
on one hand we say kids should get education to combat illiteracy and understand and know more about how the world works beyond the hood one other hand u make it seem as if Roland is outta touch , did u sayabout Tariq "he's destroying him with facts about politics and black folks" how so ? tariq is destroying Roland with fact about politics and black folks ?
I don't think you get it.
You have to relate to the crowd your speaking too, if you want them to support you.
No offense, this isn't about education but we're all not gonna be articulate and factual...
Roland and the majority of middle class black folks have a hard time relating to the hood or how we are viewed in America, the "everyday brother and sister".
If what you say or think was think, tons of educated black women would be married so it's not a issue of education but many people who aren't black don't want nor need to relate to us at all.
There is a issue of class-ism within our community that's not discussed but needs to be.
Roland is a highly educated, frat boy who done good in life, nothing but respect but it's a buddy club among these brothers and sisters that most of us can't get no relate too....
I'm not trolling but you won't understand regardless so no need to go back and forth, support Roland and it's gonna be the same in 2020. These people are limited with what they can do.. Real change doesn't come from educated brothers and sisters answering to cacs... it comes from the grassroots. Roland is just a mouthpiece... nothing more, nothing less....
Even if they do something to help the black community, it's going to black women, gays and so forth, males will be last... You don't seem to understand...
I don't mess with black liberals, democrats or whatever.... it's controlled opposition like BLM....
Yeah...you did say you'd vote Republican.
If u have to defend the indefensible as being “keeping it real “ in a nutshell then we obviously have different viewpoints about our collective situation, look Malcolm/DrKing/Evers/Baldwin weren’t Anti-Intellectuals , yet their legacy is intact , I can understand ur referencing RoyMoore n his ilk to make ur point but it’s actually destroys the ultimate crux of our argument that knowledge n education is what will free us
Well that explains it
Who pays you?
Once you figure out where the money is coming from then you know someones agenda.
No surprise that people supported by a particular political group or a certain leaning news channel spouts those same biased view points.
It's not just Tariq, many people been calling out the fuckery of the entire process for years and decades. It's a beautiful thing to have free thinking.
Once you figure out where the money is coming from then you know someones agenda.
No surprise that people supported by a particular political group or a certain leaning news channel spouts those same biased view points.
It's not just Tariq, many people been calling out the fuckery of the entire process for years and decades. It's a beautiful thing to have free thinking.
When you're more concerned about individual wealth than creating generations for the future, I think the issue lies a bit more than what any rational individual can understand.
Our generation is a get the bag generation, putting all your faith in a degree and leading a individual charge with white allies to this day still hasn't worked and it's not going to.
The backbone of this country is still the Midwest and all these poor cacs who feel Trump and them is of the same ilk.
Roy Moore played to those that got him in power, regardless of the millions he has that half Alabama folks still don't have.
Brian Kemp gotta down south accent when doing a commercial come election time when he doesn't talk that way to his peers in office.
It's called playing the game.
The only one chasing this ladder to success is you, them cacs got one man in power feeding 100 people, you're the one single, uppity and separating from everyone who doesn't fit your standards (not speaking directly to you).
Nothing is wrong with education but many of us lose our cultural identity when we get it.
Why did Andrew Guiliam not address the black community? Them spics don't vote black like that, he lost the street and because too uppity, lose the cac inspired voice and be yourself.
Respect.
oh...so, you think ain't no REAL hood shit in Alabama?
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2017/09/alabamas_murder_rate_3rd_in_us.html
I didn't say that
From Tariq's own word's his upbringing in Alabama was pretty stable and he didn't get introduced to hood life till he moved to LA.
that's his words not mine
^^ 100. I heard it yesterday. Most in this thread will dismiss it cause they really want that white approval. Even though MLK was saying something similar a few weeks before he got shot.
Many? A hidden voice with a microphone does not constitute many. Unrefined opinions die not equal news.
You should think about logging off of BGOL and putting your ear to the street.
Many obviously feel like us who no longer give votes away (the reason for this entire thread) for nothing.
Yeah. Check out New Era Detroit. I mean that with no animosity or shade whatsoever.
Hidden cyberwoke voices, pimping preachers, or motivational hustle gangsters ain’t getting it done.
Preach.
Tariq disses "hoodrats" and "dusty niggas", i.e. the most marginalized and economically dispossessed black ppl, more than anybody does.
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