Roland Martin fires shots at Tariq, Jason Black and all ‘don’t voters’

Are y'all that dense?
We do vote overall.
Just for Black specific issues and people.

If you aren't for Black people you get no votes.
It's that simple.
This is stupid. NIGG- ER! Listen up.

The social construct REQUIRES your dumb ass to participate. If you believe in personal property and ownership, you vote. If you just want anarchy and mayhem (I come and kill your family whilst you sleep) then don't vote and die. No retribution. No accountability.

How dumb can you be? It's very simple. Civilization is built on societal cooperation and participation of the citizenry. If you are denied your fair rights when you voted (and won popular decree) then you are cleared for the next stage since you have been disenfranchised which is violent dissent. If you sit out the process you have violated the social contract. Stfu and sit the fuck down, grab some popcorn, and watch the men in your bloodline be slaughtered while your women (mother's, sisters, cousins and daughters) are raped, tortured and breed indiscriminately because that is what you have earned.
 
Geez youre one flaming faggot.

Can't make an intelligible argument about this to save your life, so you flood the board with gay gifs?

Go to ignore list hell.
Feminine ways i know or things a bitch would do. real men don't back down and stand on they own 2 not put people on ignore sweet nigga.

 
Voting is the answer if we are voting for an agenda that benefits us
What benefits us? Mandatory punishment for people who kill us. Financial resources allocated to us based on what we have been through in this country. Dems as a whole haven't done shit for us. Any nigga talking about criminal reform and prison releases is an idiot. Every Black perosn isn't a fucking criminal. We get killed and they haven't moved an inch to protect us.

The best way to achieve it is agree on a Black agenda and back politicians who support it

You are right. The issue is that we arent getting enough. We haven't been getting enough for decades with the Dem. Common sense says that they are NOT worried about our humanity. Just our votes. So why are we still fucking with them? We know the republicans are against us. But the dems are not FOR us. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. Niggas are tired of not being served....and we got motherfuckers starting shit with people who want to try a new method

Ill admit that I don't have it all laid out. But I know that the current way that we have been thinking and moving ISNT the answer. Most of the bickering in this thread is due to niggas getting MAD because other Black people are challenging the system that ISNT serving us
I have stated solutions to our problems that are practical based on what has already been GIVEN to other groups that haven't gone through half the shit we have...and as a result niggas have fucking came at me with venom. Think about htat

I haven't said ANYTHING in this thread that wasn't in the favor of Black Americans getting what we are due...and as a result ive had niggas insult me. I pointed out that other groups are coming up off the BLOOD of our ancestors. When I pointed this out. some nigga came to the conclusion that I didn't get a loan....even though I have never needed one. Shit isn't right, and we got niggas fighting to keep shit the way it is.

This is a lot and I might have to come back to it, but real quick

I understand your anger, and share it for the most part

But

You are not giving an HONEST assessment of what we have benefited from interfacing with the democratic party through voting. And I'm not campaigning for the party, just reading the stats. I truly do not care what party any muhfucka votes for, as long as they aren't voting AGAINST our collective best interest. Just so happens that's really only been through one party so far.

You are dismissing the things we HAVE gotten because it's not everything on the list. That's a flawed amd unrealistic way to approach stuff fam.

Sitting here with our arms folded and refusing to participate unless we get everything we want is EXACTLY the way to guarantee we get zilch. You wouldn't even tell your kids to play at recess like that.
 
You weren't but i said something anyways. Watch and form your own opinion stupid, only a imbecile would just take some else word and they can listen themselves and form their own opinion ol half ass info having tell me what i should know debating ass nigga.

Not sure if you're stupid or just an asshole.. But i was engaging that poster in discourse and asking for him to expound on his post and thoughts on the clip. Thats kinda how discussions work.
 
ok peep

We all want what's best for our people. We fundamentally agree on that.

What do you think is the best way to achieve that? If not voting is the answer, why and how? If voting third party is the answer, why and how? If not just voting dem is the answer, why and how?

I guarantee you if any of you guys has a strategy that would get us there quicker, we'd all be on board.

The issue is that we all know we aren't getting enough, and you guys seem to be telling us to abandon what's gotten us what little we have without saying what we should do that's better.

Not just what we NEED, we all know that. But like ok stop what we can demonstrate has worked, and do WHAT that will work better?

On my life I'm open to ANYTHING that WORKS. If you have a better strategy, share that shit so we can all get on board. But to just be like well we not getting shit fast enough so we should all check out...that gets us further from what we all agree we need than what we're doing and have been doing.

This. 1000x this.

If dems never do a thing for blk folk ever again, you'd think keeping the people out of power who want to harm us and keep us subservient would be worth the wait in line. You have Trump acting as the hype man for the KKK, talking about he's a nationalist, wanting to revoke the amendment that gave black folks citizenship, being advised by folk who pose flashing white power signs, and some black folks want to give them a win, unopposed. I don't understand it.

That doesn't mean some liberals/dems aren't racist, many are indifferent to our wants and needs, but it's not a pillar of the party platform to screw over black folks and, when pressed, most do the right thing.
 
i never get into these debates vote or dont vote its up to you. what i will say is that if we dont get our own economy and money up, we will always lose.

This. Politicians respond to :money:. It may not be ethical about what makes them move and serve but that is how politics works in a CAPITALIST ECONOMY.

We need the bank book and the ballot. The former makes the latter works.
 
If dems never do a thing for blk folk ever again, you'd think keeping the people out of power who want to harm us and keep us subservient would be worth the wait in line. You have Trump acting as the hype man for the KKK, talking about he's a nationalist, wanting to revoke the amendment that gave black folks citizenship, being advised by folk who pose flashing white power signs, and some black folks want to give them a win, unopposed. I don't understand it.

This is all us vs. them hyperbole.

It's dramatic and exhausting to people who aren't politics junkies, or perpetual victims.

All republicans aren't Nazi KKK slave owning baby killers and all democrats aren't Mother Theresa.
 
This is a lot and I might have to come back to it, but real quick

I understand your anger, and share it for the most part

But

You are not giving an HONEST assessment of what we have benefited from interfacing with the democratic party through voting. And I'm not campaigning for the party, just reading the stats. I truly do not care what party any muhfucka votes for, as long as they aren't voting AGAINST our collective best interest. Just so happens that's really only been through one party so far.

You are dismissing the things we HAVE gotten because it's not everything on the list. That's a flawed amd unrealistic way to approach stuff fam.

Sitting here with our arms folded and refusing to participate unless we get everything we want is EXACTLY the way to guarantee we get zilch. You wouldn't even tell your kids to play at recess like that.
Here’s the thing my G. I never have or never will be passionate about politics. I get mine regardless. The only reason shit got heated in here is because I stood on my square when niggas got emotional.
I definitely understand the strides that have been made amongst our people. But at this point in the game, our humanity isn’t being recognized and niggas are getting mad as anyone who points it out.
The end of your post leads me to believe that you think I’m a non voter. I voted Tuesday. Voting is def important

When it comes to the non voters, their logic is...why vote for a party who ignores us? If they lose because they lost our votes then they will have to take us seriously next time around if they want or votes

Btw, much respect for coming at me without trying to talk down or clown me
 
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This is all us vs. them hyperbole.

It's dramatic and exhausting to people who aren't politics junkies, or perpetual victims.

All republicans aren't Nazi KKK slave owning baby killers and all democrats aren't Mother Theresa.

Agreed, but the racism of the GOP leadership isn't a deal-breaker for their supporters, so net effect when it comes to their policies on the black community amounts to policies being determined by the KKK.

Don't forget Trumps daddy was a klan member and I'm sure I don't have to recite the laundry list of things he's done over the years or Steve Bannon's or Stephen Miller's bona fides.
 
Agreed, but the racism of the GOP leadership isn't a deal-breaker for their supporters, so net effect when it comes to their policies on the black community amounts to policies being determined by the KKK.

Don't forget Trumps daddy was a klan member and I'm sure I don't have to recite the laundry list of things he's done over the years or Steve Bannon's or Stephen Miller's bona fides.

"Agreed, but" is not agreeing, and once again you jumped back to the "policies being determined by the KKK" hyperbole.

I get it, you gonna do what you do.
 
I've seen enough to know Roland is no light weight. Tariq can hold his own at times but the white dude got the better of him too. I'm unbiased though I have no dog in the fight. But since you asked what interview, here is 1:


what white dude got the better of Tariq?
 
I saw that debate..The one with the Jared and the other cac... Where in that debate did Jared Taylor get the best of him? Or did they have another debate somewhere?
I was only answering your question for the poster you quoted. It wasn't my opinion, I never really watched that debate to be honest.
 
Also, because Dems defeated governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states, the racist voter supression and gerrymandering tactics that racists put in will be overturned.

Laquan Macdonald was shot and killed and the Chicago DA did nothing about it. Instead of staying home posting gifs, they went out and voted.



https://abc7chicago.com/politics/fo...-cook-county-states-attorney-primary/1247992/

They got a new DA and now that cop is convicted.

Now show me something non voting has accomplished.

I’ll wait...

THANX! THIS IS THE CASE I WAS REFERRING TO ! THEY VOTED AND GOT HE BLACK DA WHO CONVICTED THE KKKOP
 
The democrats aren't supposed to have a Black agenda.

You are supposed to have that. You are supposed to form a pac or a lobbying group to tell your elected officials whst you want. You are supposed to have your representatives present bills on your behalf.

And IT WORKS.

I've already posted examples of what BLACK LOBBYING GROUPS have done.

Why don't you cats understand this?
Thank you for an honest response.
i wont go into how we have such things such as the harvest institute or even the CBC.
But somehow immigrants have protections and is part of the national discussion. Do they have a super pac. :confused:

But by your very own response since "The democrats aren't supposed to have a Black agenda." Then why should I vote for them then... Democracy is defined as the system that determines who gets the resources of a said society (i learned this in undergrad years ago). So naturally since they arent giving me and mine's any resources, you can see how I have NO obligation to support them. Many feel that way. Its cool if you dont however
:cheers:
 
Look at this low IQ ass nigga
Using vague add terms
like “pac ur votes” and “getting voices heard” and expecting to be taken seriously

GAAAWWDD! smartdumb folks think they really above it :boring: u bore me..

GAAWWDD!! !! u know what a PAC is right ? (political action committee PACs represent business, labor or ideological interests ...such as..?...BOOM think think )
& u also know a VOTE is basically a choice between various options presented , so when u make choices on options of various demands and then a committee rallies around those CHOICES(VOTES) defeat or elect a POL to carry out those demands ....so when u PAC ur VOTES,... tick tick tick THINK

also u know how those JEWS & ASIANS (u complain about ) get some of their demands met by POLS right ?


and u still never answered the question

HOW DO U GET THESE THINGS FROM POLITICIANS IF U DONT PAC UP ur "VOTES" AND DEMAND IT BY GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD?

SO...THINK ..THINK...

VOTE= a formal indication of a choice between two or more candidates or courses of action, expressed typically through a ballot or a show of hands or by voice.

"GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD" is mostly achieved by = VOTE
"GETTING OUR DEMANDS MET " is mostly achieved by = PAC

THESE ARE NOT " VAGUE ADD TERMS .. "

.....SINCERELY FROM A LOW IQ NIGGA


im done ! okay one piece of advice..... dont eat the yellow snow plz

 
No one puts black interests on the top of their agenda. That's the real problem right there.


Because the black vote has consistently shown to be ineffectual due to non-involvement. It's a vicious cycle.

Listen, these politicians won't act "out of the goodness of their hearts" or based on some moral compass. It boils down to who will reelect me and help me keep my position. That's how you get elected officials to act in your best interests.

And before the usual suspects come in thinking I pushing some self hate......Yes, niggas. I know blacks vote. I know suppression exists. YET, we don't vote enough.
 
Bob, the dude doesnt know shit about politics. He doesn't understand terms or what Congress does or even state vs. federal. I'm done wasting my time talking to someone who doesn't understand anything.

GAAAWWDD! smartdumb folks think they really above it :boring: u bore me..

GAAWWDD!! !! u know what a PAC is right ? (political action committee PACs represent business, labor or ideological interests ...such as..?...BOOM think think )
& u also know a VOTE is basically a choice between various options presented , so when u make choices on options of various demands and then a committee rallies around those CHOICES(VOTES) defeat or elect a POL to carry out those demands ....so when u PAC ur VOTES,... tick tick tick THINK

also u know how those JEWS & ASIANS (u complain about ) get some of their demands met by POLS right ?


and u still never answered the question

HOW DO U GET THESE THINGS FROM POLITICIANS IF U DONT PAC UP ur "VOTES" AND DEMAND IT BY GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD?

SO...THINK ..THINK...

VOTE= a formal indication of a choice between two or more candidates or courses of action, expressed typically through a ballot or a show of hands or by voice.

"GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD" is mostly achieved by = VOTE
"GETTING OUR DEMANDS MET " is mostly achieved by = PAC

THESE ARE NOT " VAGUE ADD TERMS .. "

.....SINCERELY FROM A LOW IQ NIGGA


im done ! okay one piece of advice..... dont eat the yellow snow plz
 
Thank you for an honest response.
i wont go into how we have such things such as the harvest institute or even the CBC.
But somehow immigrants have protections and is part of the national discussion. Do they have a super pac. :confused:

But by your very own response since "The democrats aren't supposed to have a Black agenda." Then why should I vote for them then... Democracy is defined as the system that determines who gets the resources of a said society (i learned this in undergrad years ago). So naturally since they arent giving me and mine's any resources, you can see how I have NO obligation to support them. Many feel that way. Its cool if you dont however
:cheers:
You should vote for local, state and national democrats because they do not have an agenda specifically designed to exploit, harm, defraud, debase and destroy Black people as a part of their party platform.

There are only 2 viable party choices at the national level.

Nixon invented the war on drugs designed specifically to harm the Black community. Reagan intentionally chose Black communities to be flooded with guns and drugs from Nicaragua. Bush senior depressed the economy in ways that harmed Black people first. Bush the second allowed repeals of oversights for Banks that led to the housing crisis. Black people who got homes in the 90s lost them.

The main arguments I'm hearing from folks is about welfare and mass incarceration from national democrats. When they are told that there is no evidence that any perceived wrong against Black folks was by design, that those wrongs could've been the results of local politics, and that democrats attempted to resolve those issues they go silent.

Republicans have decimated states by lowering taxes to the point where schools are dilapidated, social services can't be rendered and their economies have tanked.

Republicans over police, prosecute and sentence Black people.

Republicans poison the environment and water supplies of Black communities.

Republicans fight laws to protect Black people, lower gun violence, to protect medical treatment for women, and to make rich folks pay their fair share in taxes.

Republicans support laws designed specifically to keep Black people from voting. They support laws that have resulted in the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in modern world history.

If this isn't enough to convince any Black person to keep those motherfuckers out of power nothing will.

And those Black folks are suicidal.

As for other groups getting protection or resources from democrats, you need to provide those laws so we can discuss them.

I don't think it means what you think it means.
 
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