Roland Martin fires shots at Tariq, Jason Black and all ‘don’t voters’

[YoungSinister]

Is that why you think black people don't get them?

I've said nothing that would even imply that this was my thought process
I really don’t want to believe that your critical thinking skills are that low. You’re actually one of the few admirable business men on this board
Those loans should go to us and only us. The people who were enslaved, beaten, killed, redlined, Jim Crow’d.....
It’s a real simple concept and you’re choosing to find a reason to throw shots. The fuck???

 

[Drayonis]

I've said nothing that would even imply that this was my thought process
I really don’t want to believe that your critical thinking skills are that low. You’re actually one of the few admirable business men on this board
Those loans should go to us and only us. The people who were enslaved, beaten, killed, redlined, Jim Crow’d.....
It’s a real simple concept and you’re choosing to find a reason to throw shots. The fuck???

So Americans of all races vote (to get those) grants and then you think ONLY black people should get them. So basically their taxes are going for what exactly? And you are switching it up, you insinuated that everybody was getting grants but NOT US and when I point out that they are available for black folks as well and illustrate to you that VOTING is what got us there...you say...only black folks should get them...that's not what you said.

Anyway, I already proved to you how voting helped me. 26 years still in business, because people VOTED to put in place a system that gave loans to qualifying minorities.

Now, tell me how NOT voting would have gotten that program in place?????

 

[militantmidget]

So when we don't vote dem, and the GOP gets power, uses it to suppress black votes and gerrymander to keep dems from winning, and go on to pass policies to target us, how do we win? What is the GOP plan to benefit black people? Where has the GOP stood up to stop voter suppression or racial discrimination? When we had a dem administration we had consent decrees with local police forces shown to target black folks but Trumps WH has said those are unfair, stopped investigating white domestic terrorists, and instead of inviting BLM to the WH they are targeting them as black identity extremists. Please explain to me how this benefits us?

It's like the good cop/bad cop scenario. Regardless of how you feel, both cops ultimate goal is to put you in JAIL!

Also, white domestic terrorists founded this country. They not going anywhere. As for black identity extremists, that isn't anything new. People who are for the liberation of stolen africans have always been enemies of the state (Harriet Tubman, Assata Shakur, Nat Turner, Denmark Vescey, Malcolm X, Dr. King, etc.)

 

[Backshot Bully]

Stop being a faggot. Ain't nobody stalking you.

Also stop being an intellectual bitch.

You're dodging questions and ducking answers.

You need to tell people your specificfic points, not some ambiguous bullshit.

Anyway, gone be a bitch ass troll then.

Tried to treat ya like a man, but I guess you choose to be anything other than that.

suck dog dick sissy what question i duck? still quoting me cause you don't get pussy and got nothing better to do. Yes i call that stalking Kool Aid Man. I know your heart really pumps



sissies can't read anyways this how you look right now kool aid man your feelings hurt nigga mad about some shit i already answered but i forgot you can't read player hating dick head.

 

[YoungSinister]

So Americans of all races vote (to get those) grants and then you think ONLY black people should get them. So basically their taxes are going for what exactly?

Only Black people should get minority based grants. As I stated earlier, we are the only group of people who aren't here by choice. We were free labor for centuries. After that we turned into targets. Beatings, lynchings, redlining, Jim Crow, COINTELPRO
Yes nigga....we are an exceptional people and we need to be treated as such. Who gives a fuck if some other groups pay taxes. They haven't contributed like us.
I'm literally talking some Pro Black shit right now and you're trying to take me to task

And you are switching it up, you insinuated that everybody was getting grants but NOT US and when I point out that they are available for black folks as well and illustrate to you that VOTING is what got us there...you say...only black folks should get them...that's not what you said.

No I didn't NIGGA.
I stated that Pakis and Indians are getting resources that should be allocated for us. The conclusion you arrived at was YOUR brain at work

Anyway, I already proved to you how voting helped me. 26 years still in business, because people VOTED to put in place a system that gave loans to qualifying minorities.

Now, tell me how NOT voting would have gotten that program in place?????

and I have stated how voting as helped me. the next time I go get a new firearm permit I won't have to worry about CACs giving me a hard time and putting me in a position to get murked off camera
I stated multiple times in this thread that I voted and the reasons that I did vote....and here you are taking me to ask about not voting.....that's your brain at work

How the fuck are you going to take a Black man to task for wanting Black specific benefits? Nigga are you for real right now?
Should I call you a jigaboo sambo because you dont have a problem with other races eating off of us?

 

[Drayonis]

Only Black people should get minority based grants. As I stated earlier, we are the only group of people who aren't here by choice. We were free labor for centuries. After that we turned into targets. Beatings, lynchings, redlining, Jim Crow, COINTELPRO
Yes nigga....we are an exceptional people and we need to be treated as such. Who gives a fuck if some other groups pay taxes. They haven't contributed like us.
I'm literally talking some Pro Black shit right now and you're trying to take me to task

No I didn't NIGGA.
I stated that Pakis and Indians are getting resources that should be allocated for us. The conclusion you arrived at was YOUR brain at work

and I have stated how voting as helped me. the next time I go get a new firearm permit I won't have to worry about CACs giving me a hard time and putting me in a position to get murked off camera
I stated multiple times in this thread that I voted and the reasons that I did vote....and here you are taking me to ask about not voting.....that's your brain at work

How the fuck are you going to take a Black man to task for wanting Black specific benefits? Nigga are you for real right now?
Should I call you a jigaboo sambo because you dont have a problem with other races eating off of us?

How did Pakistanis getting SBA loans keep me from getting mine?

 

[YoungSinister]

How did Pakistanis getting SBA loans keep me from getting mine?

Why should a Pakistan get a minority based loan when they’ve never been persecuted in then United States? Your ancestors were terrorized here. Theirs weren’t

What kind of nigga brings static to someone wanting a Black first agenda?

 

[Backshot Bully]

So all the times in this thread when you asked voters what their plans are you were talking to yourself

Listen dude it's you goof birds who kept asking me what's the plan? I only returned the question back to you, I never claimed to have any plan period. All you have to do is go back and read. Your wasting your time arguing with me about something i never said and you can't find a quote of me saying it.

You just came in the thread cheer leading with them from jump for what i don't know? the other dick riders tried to put words in my mouth and say i was against voting but you as a grown man should've just read what i wrote yourself and formed your own opinion. A few others left it alone after they realized i never said anything against voting period.


but I still got @BigDaddyBuk

Making up things i guess cause he need attention or something??? Me and you already discussed i voted and I'm not against voting and again never said i was. You made yourself look like a ass with them for nothing cheer leading when all you had to do was read or mind your business.

.

 

[CptMARVEL]

You're an idiot. I've pointed that out many times. You're fear mongering ain't working.
These Cacs you posted vote because they get tangibles out the process.

Go sit your white liberal ass down. You aren't a friend to Black people.

What "tangibles" do you think they get?
A paycheck...?

And Black people and other minorities should expect to get "tangibles" when we vote...? Is that what you think?

The "tangibles" we get are:
- Elected officials who represent OUR best interest.
- Elected officials who are OUR voices in the halls of power.
- Elected officials who pass laws that benefit OUR lives and struggles.
- Elected officials who help to make OUR lives better.

In short, we get the exact same "tangibles" you believe those White Supremacists get when we vote: POWER to change our lives for the better.

So, why would you try to convince Blacks to forfeit and give up their rights as citizens to vote?

I truly don't understand this...

 

[sammyjax]

How the fuck are you going to take a Black man to task for wanting Black specific benefits?

ok peep

We all want what's best for our people. We fundamentally agree on that.

What do you think is the best way to achieve that? If not voting is the answer, why and how? If voting third party is the answer, why and how? If not just voting dem is the answer, why and how?

I guarantee you if any of you guys has a strategy that would get us there quicker, we'd all be on board.

The issue is that we all know we aren't getting enough, and you guys seem to be telling us to abandon what's gotten us what little we have without saying what we should do that's better.

Not just what we NEED, we all know that. But like ok stop what we can demonstrate has worked, and do WHAT that will work better?

On my life I'm open to ANYTHING that WORKS. If you have a better strategy, share that shit so we can all get on board. But to just be like well we not getting shit fast enough so we should all check out...that gets us further from what we all agree we need than what we're doing and have been doing.

 

[mangobob79]

What points did you agree with and why?

Niggas think they slick. I didn't say i agreed with anything what's your point? what didn't you agree with that Tariq said in the video since you listened?

just as i thought

 

[Backshot Bully]

just as i thought

 

[Big Tex]

Listen dude it's you goof birds who kept asking me what's the plan? I only returned the question back to you, I never claimed to have any plan period. All you have to do is go back and read. Your wasting your time arguing with me about something i never said and you can't find a quote of me saying it.

You just came in the thread cheer leading with them from jump for what i don't know? the other dick riders tried to put words in my mouth and say i was against voting but you as a grown man should've just read what i wrote yourself and formed your own opinion. A few others left it alone after they realized i never said anything against voting period.


but I still got @BigDaddyBuk

Making up things i guess cause he need attention or something??? Me and you already discussed i voted and I'm not against voting and again never said i was. You made yourself look like a ass with them for nothing cheer leading when all you had to do was read or mind your business.

.

If you don’t have anything else to do in life but argue against your own positions and post silly gifs, you really need to examine what you are doing with your life. You seriously wasted a day of your life arguing for arguement’s sake. Go outside fam.[/QUOTE]

 

[Backshot Bully]

Dude you started quoting me arguing with the cheer leading squad without knowing my stance on anything and when you finally asked i told you. (R.I.F)

So you wasted your day going in circles without knowing what you were talking about and taking forever to ask and your still wasting your day because i told you my stance and you still talking to me.You stalking at this point.

 

[FJP]

This damn idiot actually proved against his point. Malcolm said negroes should do whatever it is to solve their problems. If voting out oppressive politicians for new ones isn’t doing something I don’t know what is.

 

[sammyjax]

This nigga been posting homos gifs for like 3 pages lol

 

[mangobob79]

See this is what I'm saying, all that typing but no answers. Just dodges.

You don't have a plan.

see what im saying ?

 

[mangobob79]

More fake-woke hyperbolic scare tactics. What republican candidate literally had "bringing slavery back" on his platform?

take a good look and research THE 13TH like really do it bruh and while u at it u will see its pretty much the same thing, the koch bros backed & Republican Judges who give 12yr old black kids ten x worse sentencing while letting chad the rapist go home to his mom on account of "afluenza"
shall we continue on how those same kids get run thru the system and get to be adults and cant vote , like what we got in florida but guess who fought the repubs effort to overturn the new victory we won yesterday to give those same kids who turn adults their rights to vote.. HINT it wasnt desantis... shall we continue..?

 

[mangobob79]

But still no Step 2! You can tell us what we are doing wrong, play the troll role, but you don't have a "what's next". Come on if anything get ME on board, cause if there is a better option I want to hear it. But if can't say what step 2 is your constant replies are suspect and ?uestionable.

nahmean ?

 

[mangobob79]

What "tangibles" do you think they get?
A paycheck...?

And Black people and other minorities should expect to get "tangibles" when we vote...? Is that what you think?

The "tangibles" we get are:
- Elected officials who represent OUR best interest.
- Elected officials who are OUR voices in the halls of power.
- Elected officials who pass laws that benefit OUR lives and struggles.
- Elected officials who help to make OUR lives better.

In short, we get the exact same "tangibles" you believe those White Supremacists get when we vote: POWER to change our lives for the better.

So, why would you try to convince Blacks to forfeit and give up their rights as citizens to vote?

I truly don't understand this...

ok peep

We all want what's best for our people. We fundamentally agree on that.

What do you think is the best way to achieve that? If not voting is the answer, why and how? If voting third party is the answer, why and how? If not just voting dem is the answer, why and how?

I guarantee you if any of you guys has a strategy that would get us there quicker, we'd all be on board.

The issue is that we all know we aren't getting enough, and you guys seem to be telling us to abandon what's gotten us what little we have without saying what we should do that's better.

Not just what we NEED, we all know that. But like ok stop what we can demonstrate has worked, and do WHAT that will work better?

On my life I'm open to ANYTHING that WORKS. If you have a better strategy, share that shit so we can all get on board. But to just be like well we not getting shit fast enough so we should all check out...that gets us further from what we all agree we need than what we're doing and have been doing.

its that simple really
nahmean?

 

[mangobob79]

So when we don't vote dem, and the GOP gets power, uses it to suppress black votes and gerrymander to keep dems from winning, and go on to pass policies to target us, how do we win?

What is the GOP plan to benefit black people?

Where has the GOP stood up to stop voter suppression or racial discrimination?

When we had a dem administration we had consent decrees with local police forces shown to target black folks but Trumps WH has said those are unfair, stopped investigating white domestic terrorists, and instead of inviting BLM to the WH they are targeting them as black identity extremists.

Please explain to me how this benefits us?

ALL U GUYS COME ON....U GOT ALL THE ANSWERS....

oohhh C-R-I-C-K-E-T-S-!!

 

[CptMARVEL]

The fact that Tariq refuses to actually debate Roland Martin in a public forum speaks volumes. He’s willing to clown and roast the “enemy” on his own platform, but he won’t engage them in a debate on a neutral platform? He’ll go to all the trouble of making puppets and doing full-on comedy sketches about so-called butter biscuit chasing coons, but he won’t engage in public discourse?

Tariq is a flashy charlatan and a wolf-ticket selling coward. He’ll milk a good hustle for all it’s worth, but he’ll never put himself in a position where that hustle can be exposed for what it actually is. The same goes for Jason Black.

That's because Tariq is an idiot, a charlatan and a con man who's only in it for the $$$$ and for whatever fame he can get from all this.
- He doesn't stand for Black empowerment.
- He hates Black women. (Especially dark skinned sistas).
- His only real job is to continue to fleece Black people by selling them half truths & misinformation.
- He undermines the achievements and struggles of true Black Revolutionaries and activists.

 

[mangobob79]

I said it before when someone posted Malcolm clips and I'll say it again.
BGOL would hate and call brother Malcolm a dumb coon . Like many did when he was alive to keep it 100

MALCOLM NEVER COONED FOR WHITE FOLKS, HE NEVER RELEASED A MIXTAPE, HIS BOOK DEALT WITH ACTUAL ISSUES EVEN THO IT WAS A AUTO-BIO BY ALEX HALEY ..\
HE NEVER COONED, HE WAS ALWAYS 100% ON CODE! , HE WAS THOROUGH 100% OF THE TIMES AND HE WENT INTO HORNEST'S NESTS WITH KKK WS AND TOOK THEM APART INTELLECTUALLY ,
HE NEVER ASKED FOR U TO FUND HIS PATREON HE HAD ACTUAL GOOD IDEAS,
AND HE NEVER RULED OUT VOTING , ALL HE SAID WAS MAKE SURE WHEN U VOTE U ASK FOR SOMETHING EVEN THO HE BELIEVED WE CANT VOTE OUR WAY OUT OF WS BUT HE BELIEVED VOTING CAN BE A TOOLIN OUR ARSENAL !!

 

[mangobob79]

I don't really want to rehash this again. I've said the same thing I've said for the past four years. Vet the nominee, get their promises, commitments or whatever. Monitor for progress, keep the pressure on, and if they don't keep their commitments and show no evidence on trying to bring them to pass, then primary them and pull support. Set an example so the next candidate doesn't make the same mistake. We stop at the first step and then complain.

In the current political atmosphere, we don't have the luxury of sitting out like we did before. With the gutting of the voting rights act, when the GOP gets in power, they craft and execute ways to diminish our vote, gerrymander areas, and will pay no penalty for it. By the time people decide to get back in the game, then they have to have 3-4x the dem vote to equal the political power of 1x the GOP vote. GA had over 50,000 majority black registrations on hold. If your mom named you De'Shaun and someone entered it as De Shaun or DeShaun on some pubic record at some time, you were ass out, and the GOP SoS had carte blanche to do what he wanted. All the legal actions came too late. HOWEVER, had we voted dem and kept power in states instead of losing governorship's, then our vote wouldn't be diluted or suppressed. Medicaid would be expanded. We wouldn't have a lawsuit trying to end protections for preexisting conditions and the ACA. We wouldn't have the GOP doing like they did in Ohio exempting white areas from work requirements to get food stamps, while black area's even with higher unemployment rates, still had to be subject to them. Who is in power determines how much we get fucked over. If nothing else, letting them win is letting the racist rhetoric of Trump win and influence others when they see there are no consequences for it. Why do you want to help white supremacy spread? You think DeSantis is going to pull back on his racist rhetoric when it basically worked? Why shouldn't other white folks be emboldened to do exactly what he did?

FOLKS JUST CANT SEE THE LONG GAME,FOLSK SAY THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE BUT CANT SEE THESE CRACKAS R TRYIN TO PUT 20FEET ELECTROCUTED BARBED WALLS ON UR STREET & CHAINS ON UR OUTSIDE DOORLOCKS AND DIG A GUTTER OF SEWAGE AND DISEASE OUTSIDE UR DOOR WHILE WE SIT BEING REVOLUTIONARY .

ITS ALWAYS JUST " WHAT CAN U GIVE ME NOW ?' WHILE U STIING WAITING ASKING TEH DEVIL STEADY BUILDING DANGEROUS DEVICES OUTISDE UR BLOCK UN-OBSTRUCTED WHILE U SIT ASKIGN FOR POLS TO PRESENT A AGNEDA ON UR BEHALF B4 U VOTE!

AS IF ITS A POL'S JOB TO SUGGEST TO BLACK FOLKS WHAT WE SHOULD ASK FOR, IT ISNT DONE TO JEWS OR ASIANS ,WHY DO THEY THINK A WHITE OR EVEN BLACK POL WOULD SUGGEST IT ON HIS/HER OWN IF WE DONT RALLY/PAC UP AND ASK FOR IT?

 

[Naha-Nago]

*two cents*

 

[Amajorfucup]

listen to the video
that's the problem with niggas always want someone to do the leg work for them, always wanna talk and never listen. How can you tell someone their views or opinions are wrong if you never even listened to them????? that's why i love this board it amuses me how many people are really one sided and full of shit with their arguments and in their own lives.

I dont think i was talking to you. But I was asking someone what their perceptions and conclusions were. Cant get that from watching the video you fucking imbecile.

 

[YoungSinister]

ok peep

We all want what's best for our people. We fundamentally agree on that.

What do you think is the best way to achieve that? If not voting is the answer, why and how? If voting third party is the answer, why and how? If not just voting dem is the answer, why and how?

I guarantee you if any of you guys has a strategy that would get us there quicker, we'd all be on board.

The issue is that we all know we aren't getting enough, and you guys seem to be telling us to abandon what's gotten us what little we have without saying what we should do that's better.

Not just what we NEED, we all know that. But like ok stop what we can demonstrate has worked, and do WHAT that will work better?

On my life I'm open to ANYTHING that WORKS. If you have a better strategy, share that shit so we can all get on board. But to just be like well we not getting shit fast enough so we should all check out...that gets us further from what we all agree we need than what we're doing and have been doing.

Voting is the answer if we are voting for an agenda that benefits us
What benefits us? Mandatory punishment for people who kill us. Financial resources allocated to us based on what we have been through in this country. Dems as a whole haven't done shit for us. Any nigga talking about criminal reform and prison releases is an idiot. Every Black perosn isn't a fucking criminal. We get killed and they haven't moved an inch to protect us.

The best way to achieve it is agree on a Black agenda and back politicians who support it

You are right. The issue is that we arent getting enough. We haven't been getting enough for decades with the Dem. Common sense says that they are NOT worried about our humanity. Just our votes. So why are we still fucking with them? We know the republicans are against us. But the dems are not FOR us. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. Niggas are tired of not being served....and we got motherfuckers starting shit with people who want to try a new method

Ill admit that I don't have it all laid out. But I know that the current way that we have been thinking and moving ISNT the answer. Most of the bickering in this thread is due to niggas getting MAD because other Black people are challenging the system that ISNT serving us
I have stated solutions to our problems that are practical based on what has already been GIVEN to other groups that haven't gone through half the shit we have...and as a result niggas have fucking came at me with venom. Think about htat

I haven't said ANYTHING in this thread that wasn't in the favor of Black Americans getting what we are due...and as a result ive had niggas insult me. I pointed out that other groups are coming up off the BLOOD of our ancestors. When I pointed this out. some nigga came to the conclusion that I didn't get a loan....even though I have never needed one. Shit isn't right, and we got niggas fighting to keep shit the way it is.

 

[YoungSinister]

That's because Tariq is an idiot, a charlatan and a con man who's only in it for the $$$$ and for whatever fame he can get from all this.
- He doesn't stand for Black empowerment.
- He hates Black women. (Especially dark skinned sistas).
- His only real job is to continue to fleece Black people by selling them half truths & misinformation.
- He undermines the achievements and struggles of true Black Revolutionaries and activists.

You're an O'fay which means that your opinion is useless
Bring me your wife so I can show her how to have an orgasm

 

[mangobob79]

Mandatory prison terms for cops who murder unarmed citizens can’t be too much to ask for
Laws have been passed to protect illegals from arrest in places like CA. Gay marriage has been made legal in some states
Is it too much to ask to protect the group of people who literally built this country?


If you want to go further
For all that we’ve done for this nation, we could get tax exempt status. The Jews get reparations. The native Americans get free money from the government. We haven’t got shit
You can’t tell me that stuff isn’t possible after looking at the awards that these other groups get. Ask yourself why this shit hadn’t been done already

theres fallacies and inaccuracies in ur statements here but b4 i even break it down

ONE QUESTION!!

HOW DO U GET THESE THINGS FROM POLITICIANS IF U DONT PAC UP ur "VOTES" AND DEMAND IT BY GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD?

and while ure doing or rather "waiting " on that to happen....
...... in the meantime
who sentences ur kids in court ?

who make sure flynt is not a weekly every blacktown occurrence?

who makes sure our old folks get better healthcare ?

who makes sure prison corporations dont partner with those DAs that sentences our kids to harsher life sentences that also strip their voting rights ?

who make sure we get a fair shot at college and employment by not discriminating against black folks?

i could go on & on ....

 

[kogalee muhammad]

Roland would obliterate Tariq in a one on one debate.

Nigga! HOW!?!

 

[kogalee muhammad]

theres fallacies and inaccuracies in ur statements here but b4 i even break it down

ONE QUESTION!!

HOW DO U GET THESE THINGS FROM POLITICIANS IF U DONT PAC UP ur "VOTES" AND DEMAND IT BY GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD?

and while ure doing or rather "waiting " on that to happen....
...... in the meantime
who sentences ur kids in court ?

who make sure flynt is not a weekly every blacktown occurrence?

who makes sure our old folks get better healthcare ?

who makes sure prison corporations dont partner with those DAs that sentences our kids to harsher life sentences that also strip their voting rights ?

who make sure we get a fair shot at college and employment by not discriminating against black folks?

i could go on & on ....

...

Nigga. I will ask you one question...

What has voting ever done in the best interests of black people in the hell's of north America? I'll wait

 

[Watcher]

Dem officials have pushed through legislation in 26 states over the past 8 years to combat poluce brutality.

Dem prosecutors have overturned unlawful convictions, freed innocent Black prisoners, vacated unlawful sentences and exposed corrupt officials.

The former president commuted sentences and freed Black offenders who had life sentences.

What the furry blue fuck do you mean dems have done nothing?

Have you had your head up your ass for the past 10 years?

These facts have been posted to him over and over. Him and others aren’t interested in the truth

 

[Backshot Bully]

I dont think i was talking to you. But I was asking someone what their perceptions and conclusions were. Cant get that from watching the video you fucking imbecile.

You weren't but i said something anyways. Watch and form your own opinion stupid, only a imbecile would just take some else word and they can listen themselves and form their own opinion ol half ass info having tell me what i should know debating ass nigga.

 

[BigDaddyBuk]

You weren't but i said something anyways. Watch and form your own opinion stupid, only a imbecile would just take some else word and they can listen themselves and form their own opinion ol half ass info having tell me what i should know debating ass nigga.

Geez youre one flaming faggot.

Can't make an intelligible argument about this to save your life, so you flood the board with gay gifs?

Go to ignore list hell.

 

[YoungSinister]

theres fallacies and inaccuracies in ur statements here but b4 i even break it down
ONE QUESTION!!

HOW DO U GET THESE THINGS FROM POLITICIANS IF U DONT PAC UP ur "VOTES" AND DEMAND IT BY GETTING OUR COLLECTIVE VOICES HEARD?

Look at this low IQ ass nigga
Using vague add terms like “pac ur votes” and “getting voices heard” and expecting to be taken seriously