Report finds Paterno not only knew but willingly financed Sandusky

[alexw]

right, i'm twisted because a conversation like this is far-fetched:

athletic director: coach, there may be some trouble brewing. i don't have all the details yet, but there may be a criminal investigation involving one of your staff.

coach: OK. let me know when you find out more.

don't let a wild imagination and guilt by association fallacies trip you up. keep your mind fit.

oh pedo lover i wouldve ate this shit alive if i wasnt tired last night



only in your twisted mind would someone have a conversation and not ask this simple question of who?

its your pedo loving mind that has this vivid imagination when ive posted several pieces of evidence that incriminates that old dead bastard

 

[T'Challa]

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Penn state needs a 14 yr ban on their football program period end of discussion.

Paterno statue needs to be taken down

I have maintained Paterno got more skeletons in his closet, Sandusky is just one of that many

Fuck Joe Pa's good name

For me it should be atleast 15 years minimum....

White people are fucking weird,despite all the evidence against Paterno,they are defending this faggot.....Who is the world would defend a guy like this,not only they are defending they are taking pictures with the statue....

 

[T'Challa]

For me it should be atleast 15 years minimum....





White people are fucking weird,despite all the evidence against Paterno,they are defending this faggot.....Who is the world would defend a guy like this,not only they are defending they are taking pictures with the statue....

did you see what they photoshopped in the background?

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

did you see what they photoshopped in the background?

Of course I did but it still dont take anything that white people are still defending Paterno and taking picture with the statue.....

 

[T'Challa]

Of course I did but it still dont take anything that white people are still defending Paterno and taking picture with the statue.....

yea... people still out here c/s paterno... i will never forget those penn state students that were treating him like a god when this shit first got started... i wonder what they gotta say now... remove the statue... matter of fact remove penn state.

 

[woodchuck]

It's funny to hear about all of the great shit Joe Pa did, but nobody mentioned the churches and homes Vick built, or the school supplies he bought for entire schools when he killed those dogs. It didn't matter then, just like all of the great shit Paterno did don't matter now.

 

[max-dawg]

It's funny to hear about all of the great shit Joe Pa did, but nobody mentioned the churches and homes Vick built, or the school supplies he bought for entire schools when he killed those dogs. It didn't matter then, just like all of the great shit Paterno did don't matter now.

Dogs vs children? Really?

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[cranrab]

That in itself was a huge assumption.

The email doesn't say whether Paterno cosigned what the pedo was doing, whether he was ready to cover it up, or anything. It simply says that he knew there was an investigation into Sandusky. That infers ZERO guilt to Paterno in and of itself.

yes, the hypothetical was a huge assumption.

it points out that inferring ANY meaning from "touched base" requires a huge assumption.

BTW, it doesn't say the email doesn't say "that he knew there was an investigation into sandusky". it only states that tim curley "touched base".

any mention of jerry sandusky or the investigation is assumed.

 

[cranrab]

only in your twisted mind would someone have a conversation and not ask this simple question of who?

its your pedo loving mind that has this vivid imagination when ive posted several pieces of evidence that incriminates that old dead bastard

AW,

the twisted mind is the one that suggests evidence exists where there is none.

jerry sandusky? mounds of evidence.

gary schultz? mounds of evidence.

tim curley? mounds of evidence.

coach paterno? not a single email from him. not a single email to him. more than a decade of personal records from his home and not a single one implicating knowledge of 1998.

your several pieces of evidence? one email from tim curley (not coach paterno) to gary schultz (not joe paterno) saying that he "touched base" 24 hours after the police investigation began.

what did tim curley discuss while touching base? you don't know.

how long did they communicate? you don't know.

what details (if any were available) were discussed. you don't know.

coach paterno may be guilty of everything you speculate on. but you should demand evidence of it.

 

[cranrab]

If he's so innocent and forthright, why'd he lie to the Grand Jury, or do you not believe he did that either?

please cite the evidence from the sic that proves coach paterno lied to the grand jury.

BTW, who claimed that coach paterno was innocent and forthright?

i'm making a simple request: "where is the evidence"?

we know where your emotions lead you, what is your intellect contributing to your conclusions?

 

[cranrab]

Cranrab .... WHAT THE FUCK, MAN?

do you have a specific question, or just dropping in for drive by instigation?

jerry sandusky was convicted with evidence.

the sic produced clear evidence of tim curley and gary schultz' knowledge of 1998.

the sic produced clear evidence of tim curley and gary schultz engineering jerry sandusky's unusual retirement agreement (and post retirement access to psu) in 1999.

the sic produced clear evidence of gary schultz and graham spanier oddly orchestrating the grant of emeritus status to jerry sandusky in 1999.

clear evidence of coach paterno's knowledge in 1998? not so much.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Dogs vs children? Really?

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Alot of people value a dog's life more than a human life

 

[qseal00]

yes, the hypothetical was a huge assumption.

it points out that inferring ANY meaning from "touched base" requires a huge assumption.

BTW, it doesn't say the email doesn't say "that he knew there was an investigation into sandusky". it only states that tim curley "touched base".

any mention of jerry sandusky or the investigation is assumed.

I meant to be clear.

Assuming that Curley "touched base" with Paterno and didn't mention whom he was speaking of is a huge assumption.

I understand you are trying to be the advocate from the other side as you so often do, but the "touched base" point is a bad one to try and turn.

At the most, Curley told him all that was going on and what Sandusky was being accused of. At the very least he told Paterno that Sandusky may have been in a bit of trouble.

In any case, let's play your game. Let's say that Curley just told Paterno that "one of his coaches was under investigation". Surely you can reasonably assume that if Curley touched base with him then, he would have filled him in later.

The path of events that you subscribe to requires too many leaps of logic to come true.

The logical conclusion is that Curley informed Paterno of the 1998 event.

 

[3 Times]

So what is the BGOL consensus? That the powers at PSU were knowingly operating a pedophile ring that extended beyond Sandusky?

I mean walking out of a locker room publicly holding hands with a little boy that you just gave head to (and who knows what else) sounds like Sandusky was pretty comfortable with his deviance

 

[woodchuck]

Dogs vs children? Really?

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Don't act new.

please cite the evidence from the sic that proves coach paterno lied to the grand jury.

BTW, who claimed that coach paterno was innocent and forthright?

i'm making a simple request: "where is the evidence"?

we know where your emotions lead you, what is your intellect contributing to your conclusions?

Man, stop it.

 

[lazarus]

breaking news from penn state: they will be moving joe paterno's statute so it will be looking the other way

 

[woodchuck]

breaking news from penn state: they will be moving joe paterno's statute so it will be looking the other way

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

The fake outrage in this thread is hilarious...once this story leaves the headlines no fucks will be given.

 

[naijachief]

The fake outrage in this thread is hilarious...once this story leaves the headlines no fucks will be given.

lol....no black victims....why should we care?

 

[3 Times]

The fake outrage in this thread is hilarious...once this story leaves the headlines no fucks will be given.

Because people will move on to other topics doesn't mean the current outrage is fake.

BTW whats your point anyway?

 

[CarryOn]

It's funny to hear about all of the great shit Joe Pa did, but nobody mentioned the churches and homes Vick built, or the school supplies he bought for entire schools when he killed those dogs. It didn't matter then, just like all of the great shit Paterno did don't matter now.

are you serious?

 

[Spectrum]

[WM][/WM]

breaking news from penn state: they will be moving joe paterno's statute so it will be looking the other way

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

Because people will move on to other topics doesn't mean the current outrage is fake.

BTW whats your point anyway?

Bullshit..There hasn't been a Penn State thread in like 4 months...if you really cared it would've been that way....hot topic of the moment

 

[CarryOn]

Bullshit..There hasn't been a Penn State thread in like 4 months...if you really cared it would've been that way....hot topic of the moment

get over it critic, damn.

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

get over it critic, damn.

Get over what? You emotional?

 

[3 Times]

Bullshit..There hasn't been a Penn State thread in like 4 months...if you really cared it would've been that way....hot topic of the moment

You are aware that there is a new report that was released right? I believe this thread is based on that latest report. Isn't the BGOL forum main page primarily based on current events?

Why you playing yourself?

 

[3 Times]

Get over what? You emotional?

It seems as if you're going against the grain merely for attention. i believe they call that "trolling"? Nothing wrong with going against the grain, I live by that. But it's only credible when it comes from a place of integrity.

 

[alexw]

AW,

the twisted mind is the one that suggests evidence exists where there is none.

jerry sandusky? mounds of evidence.

gary schultz? mounds of evidence.

tim curley? mounds of evidence.

coach paterno? not a single email from him. not a single email to him. more than a decade of personal records from his home and not a single one implicating knowledge of 1998.

next youre going to tell us that Sandusky was innocent because you were the janitor cleaning those bathrooms and Freesh was just speculating in his reports

nevermind the 260+ page document of evidence

in your twisted little head, its all just fabrications and speculations

hell to you the term touched base means hello

GTFOH!

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

You are aware that there is a new report that was released right? I believe this thread is based on that latest report. Isn't the BGOL forum main page primarily based on current events?

Why you playing yourself?

Was there anything released you pretty much didn't already know

Hot topic..

 

[cranrab]

At the very least he told Paterno that Sandusky may have been in a bit of trouble.

In any case, let's play your game. Let's say that Curley just told Paterno that "one of his coaches was under investigation". Surely you can reasonably assume that if Curley touched base with him then, he would have filled him in later.

correct.

tim curley (or someone else) would have "filled him in later" on all of the following:

university police chief thomas harmon said no evidence of a crime,

detective ron schreffler could not determine if a sexual assault occurred,

dpw case worker jerry lauro concluded that no sexual assault occurred,

cys counselor john seasock concluded after a 2nd psychological evaluation that there was no incident which could be termed sexual abuse

so you have athletic director, vice president, university police chief, detective, case worker and counselor all telling coach paterno no crime occurred.

what knowledge then, is coach paterno supposed to have had in 1998?

 

[alexw]

correct.

tim curley (or someone else) would have "filled him in later" on all of the following:

university police chief thomas harmon said no evidence of a crime,

detective ron schreffler could not determine if a sexual assault occurred,

dpw case worker jerry lauro concluded that no sexual assault occurred,

cys counselor john seasock concluded after a 2nd psychological evaluation that there was no incident which could be termed sexual abuse

so you have athletic director, vice president, university police chief, detective, case worker and counselor all telling coach paterno no crime occurred.

what knowledge then, is coach paterno supposed to have had in 1998?

that is not what the report said

WTF!

most of them believed he was an abuser but that one report from seasock wouldve made it impossible to charge him

nigga you will just lie for the sake of winning a bullshit internet argument

weirdo B

 

[cranrab]

next youre going to tell us that Sandusky was innocent because you were the janitor cleaning those bathrooms and Freesh was just speculating in his reports

in your twisted little head, its all just fabrications and speculations

you concoct elaborate fiction like that and suggest that i'm twisted?

hope you never get to sit on a jury pool where you're asked to actually weigh evidence.

nice try at jumping ahead to 2000 when we've been discussing 1998 the whole time.

 

[cranrab]

that is not what the report said

thanks for confirming what i already knew: you never read the report.

it was pretty obvious to me last night. now moreso than ever.

anyone who can read chapter 2 section 3 beginning with page 39 saw all of the above.

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

It seems as if you're going against the grain merely for attention. i believe they call that "trolling"? Nothing wrong with going against the grain, I live by that. But it's only credible when it comes from a place of integrity.

Trolling has become as misused on the board as coon...somebody says something you don't like so they're trolling..blah....attention? You replied to me.....fuck out of here Mr "I don't get pussy or Jack off and now my mind is so clear"....fucking weirdo