Rapper Gunna free... for now...

Aye, this may seem weird but....

This dude is in jail with all dudes right?

Like the past 6 or so months right?

Those braids seem like they were done recently......

Thugga got dudes braiding his hair in the joint?!

He gone be alright..........he feeling right at home......


Yeah but in prison this is normal. Dudes with braids for the most part had it braided by another dude. I get how it look on the outside but this isnt' you know....
 
Fuck all this debating. If you do ANYTHING to help the prosecution's case against your friend IT'S SNITCHING. Also, the only people that should be defending Gunna are his civilian (square) female fans.
 
Fuck all this debating. If you do ANYTHING to help the prosecution's case against your friend IT'S SNITCHING. Also, the only people that should be defending Gunna are his civilian (square) female fans.
He didn’t do anything to help the prosecution.
 
Cases like these bring out the stupidity. People on Twitter saying he didn't snitch, and he doesn't have to testify. Then when they find out he does have to testify if called upon, they respond with, "Well, he can just plead the 5th, and the D.A. HAS to let him go home." There are actual adults that believe this. I see why so many cats go to jail for stupid shit. :smh:
I’m an adult who believes this because I have read the terms of the plea as reported. What I don’t understand is why people think plea agreements are not enforceable against the defendant AND the DA.

The prosecutor himself says that Gunna reserved his right to plead the fifth amendment if called to testify at trial. What more does anyone need to understand that if called to testify he will assert the fifth?

And what is meant by the DA will have to let him go?? Let him go from what?? He’s already pled guilty AND been sentenced. Ain’t nothing to let him go from. His case is over. He’s already gone.
 
This cat did some snitching shit I never seen before. :lol:So is YSL a record label or a gang? So he say :yes: "Yeah, YSL is a gang" ... they ask, Did Young thug form it and he pleads the fifth?

He hoping people can't follow his Mr Miyagi, riddle like snitching. Cat acting like he didn't help fill out the puzzle for the people.
I don't think he banked on that court footage leaking online.

It looks like somebody snuck there phone in the courtroom and reordered secretly.

His release wouldn't have looked so bad if it wasn't for the court footage. He could have spinned it his way.
 
I agree, we stop gang violence right now!!

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I’m an adult who believes this because I have read the terms of the plea as reported. What I don’t understand is why people think plea agreements are not enforceable against the defendant AND the DA.

The prosecutor himself says that Gunna reserved his right to plead the fifth amendment if called to testify at trial. What more does anyone need to understand that if called to testify he will assert the fifth?

And what is meant by the DA will have to let him go?? Let him go from what?? He’s already pled guilty AND been sentenced. Ain’t nothing to let him go from. His case is over. He’s already gone.

Let's start with I'm not a lawyer and i have not spoken to the few I know about this.

You normally have the right to pled the 5th. In Gunna's case, he already admitted YSL is a gang and if nothing else the things found in the car were not his. The court can still use those statements and in theory bring him back to have him confirm those statements. I would assume if Gunna tried to retract the statements he could be charged with perjury.im also assuming as part of the plea failing to comply would possibly negate the original deal and Gunna could go back to prison to face the original charges.

I'm also assuming the ultimate goal was to establish YSL was/is a gang for future juries. Even if they don't get anything else from Gunna that statement is there to establish there is the possibility that these men are capable of crime. They are not just artists playing gangster or their lyrics are more than just rhymes for entertainment. They are also not just telling stories about their environment and were active in street culture.

Gunna using the 5th is irrelevant for this. I assume bringing Gunna back to say just that for the jury to hear is enough for the bigger picture. They could also attempt to establish who other members are and if he has not already said is he a member. I'm not sure you could use the 5th for a question around who other members are given it is not a direct question about yourself, but let's assume you can. If nothing else the prosecution has proven to the jury a gang culture existed and they have his video confession/statement to show the jury if he did refuse to answer or change it.
 
In Gunna's case, he already admitted YSL is a gang and if nothing else the things found in the car were not his. The court can still use those statements and in theory bring him back to have him confirm those statements.

The court doesn’t use anything. The judge just calls balls and strikes in a jury trial. Only the prosecutor and defense present evidence. They can’t just play a tape of his plea in front of a jury. He would have to be subpoenaed to testify and if that was done he clearly will take the fifth.
Everyone keeps focusing on Gunna but it’s the other guy who is the danger to YT because he has no right to the 5h at a later trial. His agreement requires testifying at trial.
 
The court doesn’t use anything. The judge just calls balls and strikes in a jury trial. Only the prosecutor and defense present evidence. They can’t just play a tape of his plea in front of a jury. He would have to be subpoenaed to testify and if that was done he clearly will take the fifth.
Everyone keeps focusing on Gunna but it’s the other guy who is the danger to YT because he has no right to the 5h at a later trial. His agreement requires testifying at trial.

You know what I meant when I said the court as in the state as in the prosecution. While Gunna would potentially need to show in court to use the recording so that he can be challenged by the defense, it would be up to the judge to allow the recording to be put in as evidence. Unless it was part of his plea (it was not to my knowledge), I wouldn't understand why his statements would not be used in future cases related to YSL. This case is way too high profile for them to lose.

Let's assume he pleds the 5th like you believe he'd do. The idea is to convince the jury of the true nature of YSL. They don't need Gunna to answer it. If he doesn't answer it, that is just as bad to the jury. If YSL is not a criminal organization, why would Gunna not say they aren't. If Gunna changes his statements and says YSL is not a gang, he is not being truthful based on his past statements and on the conditions of his plea he'll potentially get the original five years. Again, the 5th means you will not self incriminate not that you don't need to answer questions truthfully. Low level, there is nothing self incriminating about the question is YSL a gang or is ... a member of YSL. Even asking questions like "Gunna if the drugs and gun in the car were not yours who did they belong to. Who was in the car with you."are not self incriminating. On top of that, I doubt you can self incriminate for crimes you've already pleded out to, so he may not be able to use the 5th with questions related to his plea.

Do you really believe they gave Gunna a plea deal with time served and are going to allow him to show up and mock them by not answering at a minimal what he has previously stated on the record. At best, they had a weak case against him and are using him in the hopes that others will pled and not go to trail.

I believe people are hearing about what happened in the Meg and Tory case and believe the situation is the same. Meg exfriend did not receive a plea deal, was never accused of a crime and was never on trail. From what I'm hearing, she got immunity for her statement and used the 5th as to not implicate herself. The bigger point is she was not released conditionally as a part of a plea bargain.

No one knows or cares about the person you are speaking of because he is a nobody to the public at large. I don't listen to Gunna's music but I'm sure like the average hip-hop artist, he's directly or indirectly said he would never snitch or work with the "law" in any way. By their own rules and logic, Gunna is a snitch and that is why people who believe in that foolishness are holding him accountable. They also don't believe he didn't give more details unrelated to his charges. No one will know if that happened until the trail assuming there is one.
 
I think people are not understanding that the 5th amendment can only be invoked if the testimony is self-incriminating. People are subpoenaed every day to give evidence as testimony in trials. The subpoena compels you to tell the truth, if not you are in violation of the subpoena. Can't just sit on the stand and plead the 5th on every question that has nothing to do with incriminating yourself.

You'd be held in contempt. Doing this would likely violate the conditions of dude's plea agreement and back to jail he goes.
 
I think people are not understanding that the 5th amendment can only be invoked if the testimony is self-incriminating. People are subpoenaed every day to give evidence as testimony in trials. The subpoena compels you to tell the truth, if not you are in violation of the subpoena. Can't just sit on the stand and plead the 5th on every question that has nothing to do with incriminating yourself.

You'd be held in contempt. Doing this would likely violate the conditions of dude's plea agreement and back to jail he goes.
100% spot on, you cannot get up on the stand and plead the fifth on things that do not incriminate yourself. If he is called to testify he has to answer TRUTHFULLY about things that involve Young Thug ...He cannot plead the fifth. This is part of his plea deal.
 
This is a states case which could lead to federal charges for the gang thing as being an criminal organization to do crimes so all this pleading is ok but who knows what's awaiting them around the corner.
 
This shit sad af. Aside from all the details of charges, I would like to think we are stronger than this.

How you fold when this is what you chose? :confused:
 
Cases like these bring out the stupidity. People on Twitter saying he didn't snitch, and he doesn't have to testify. Then when they find out he does have to testify if called upon, they respond with, "Well, he can just plead the 5th, and the D.A. HAS to let him go home." There are actual adults that believe this. I see why so many cats go to jail for stupid shit. :smh:
Not understanding how the law & courts work :smh:
 
This shit sad af. Aside from all the details of charges, I would like to think we are stronger than this.

How you fold when this is what you chose? :confused:
Cause nigs don’t do crimes to go to jail.. some humans do things without ever considering the consequences.. if people did more victims would be alive or unharmed, more criminals wouldn’t commit crimes or go to prison.. they see only 1 outcome and that’s actions without consequences.. when a diff outcome presents itself they are “shock” and can’t handle what comes with it.. all they saw was victory and now that loss present itself you see how some of them unfold.. this is the reality some humans never thought of and can’t handle
 
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