Pro Abortion folks... What are your thoughts now

[Dmain_Event]

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I aint gonna stait which side I am on (you lose the battle before it begins in some minds by doing that). But what are youre thoughts. The same, Changed, or "shut the fuck up nigga, Im trying to look at porn".

 

[ScorpDiesel]

All that may be well and good but if I get a bitch pregnant and we agree not to have it, then guess what? We ain't havin' it. Period.

 

[BlackSmurf]

I feel like we need to have 50% more abortions than we are having now.

 

[CarryOn]

You lost me at stait, i cant give you a real response anymore.

 

[Blunt]

There's no such thing as "pro-abortion." That would imply the imposition of abortions on those who don't want them. It's called "pro-choice." Freedom for individuals to choose what is allowed to continue to occur within their bodies with a secure knowledge of (and access to) all viable/safe options.

 

[Mr. Equator]

I'm Still Pro-Choice when deemed necessary by the couple.


So if I go out and have 10 kids that I have no plans of taking any kind of R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y for I would have done the Black Race a great favor????

Can I get a parade too!!!

Because that seems to be the logic of a lot of irresponsible folks that should have never procreated in the 1st place.


Not to shit on your topic but irresponsible parenting within the Black Community pisses me off....


Mass numbers of irresponsible mofos that think they shit don't stink b/c they have kids, that they barely teach anything, or raise, yet they want to tell me that I am odd for not having kids......

 

[Laughing Man]

I'm Still Pro-Choice when deemed necessary by the couple.


So if I go out and have 10 kids that I have no plans of taking any kind of R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y for I would have done the Black Race a great favor????

Can I get a parade too!!!

Because that seems to be the logic of a lot of irresponsible folks that should have never procreated in the 1st place.


Not to shit on your topic but irresponsible parenting pisses me off....

Then its not really a problem with us, because there are those who have kids by two or more different fathers, so that argument aint worth shit

making the two parent system in the black community work again without all the fucking bullshit is a better solution

 

[shanebp1978]

This may be true. But I can't get on his arguement. Do we really WANT some of these persons to have children? The answer is a clear no.

He's showing perfect pictures of a perfect world.

In reality, there is no holding of hands, and beautiful scenery. It is black men & black women not raising their children. It is no good to just have children, work with and raise the ones we have in a positive manner, and we will be back full force. Please believe it.

 

[shanebp1978]

I'm Still Pro-Choice when deemed necessary by the couple.


So if I go out and have 10 kids that I have no plans of taking any kind of R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y for I would have done the Black Race a great favor????

Can I get a parade too!!!

Because that seems to be the logic of a lot of irresponsible folks that should have never procreated in the 1st place.


Not to shit on your topic but irresponsible parenting within the Black Community pisses me off....


Mass numbers of irresponsible mofos that think they shit don't stink b/c they have kids, that they barely teach anything, or raise, yet they want to tell me that I am odd for not having kids......

Co-sign. Was typing while you were putting it down.

 

[Majestic Lion]

 

[Dert Bagg]

There's no such thing as "pro-abortion." That would imply the imposition of abortions on those who don't want them. It's called "pro-choice." Freedom for individuals to choose what is allowed to continue to occur within their bodies with a secure knowledge of (and access to) all viable/safe options.

Horseshit. If I'm Pro-Death Penalty I'm not for the forced imposition of lethal injections on any group of the population. It just means I am for the the death penalty as a legal option for those deciding sentence. Even if am dismayed at the inevitable misapplication of the death penalty, I am still either for it or against it. "Pro-Choice" and "Pro-Life" are newspeak. The issue is legalized abortion. The debate is between folks whose positions are "Pro" or "anti" legal abortion.

Imagine Bush saying: "I'm not pro-privatized social security. I'm pro-choice. I just want people to have a fiscally safe and informed choice about where to invest their income."

It's the same logic. If you are pro-abortion at least have the balls to say it.
While I think she is horribly misguided in her no-shame t-shirt campaign, pro-abortion activist Jennifer Baumgardener has the right idea in terms of making perfectly clear what the issue is.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=248331

Or should the shirt read "I had a choice?"

 

[SWATLANTA]

Not my place to tell a woman what to do with her body (my .02 !)

 

[lightbright]

I'm Still Pro-Choice when deemed necessary by the couple.


So if I go out and have 10 kids that I have no plans of taking any kind of R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y for I would have done the Black Race a great favor????

Can I get a parade too!!!

Because that seems to be the logic of a lot of irresponsible folks that should have never procreated in the 1st place.


Not to shit on your topic but irresponsible parenting within the Black Community pisses me off....


Mass numbers of irresponsible mofos that think they shit don't stink b/c they have kids, that they barely teach anything, or raise, yet they want to tell me that I am odd for not having kids......

Not my place to tell a woman what to do with her body (my .02 !)

..me neither..but if ur an irresponsible useless piece of shit on welfare that thinks it's her natural right to procreate and not take care of her own on her own while others are supposed to take care of it for her....move to a third world country and have babies like gerbils....

 

[moblack]

I worked at an inner city school. Shit some kids are having more then 1 child before the time they graduate. Where did that guy get his numbers?

 

[Dmain_Event]

Again, I am not stating which side of the fence that I am on here, but I will ask you to consider the following line of thought: "The African Americans that get abortions are the ones that can afford them"(don't worry about where the quote came from niggaz... it was a wize old man). Think about it, abortions aint free. All those bad kids wit lazy ass parents are comming from the segment of our population that can't afford abortions. The black kids that are getting killed are the ones in the middle to upper class segments of our population. If I were against abortion, I would say that no wonder black people are where they are today-all the good ones are getting killed before they can get a chance to prove themselves.
Again, what are your thoughts.

 

[Dert Bagg]

So the white folks who get abortions are the ones that can't afford them?
He might have been old, but wise...?

 

[Mr. Met]

Pro-Choice.

Nothing this country has tried has/will ever extinguish the black race.

It's a fact that anti-abortion cats are nothing but irresponsible 'baby killers' themselves.

And don't you be dumb enough to believe that these conservative groups are so concerned about black life.

Margaret Sanger but fucking up the black community for a minute, but whites began getting involved with the cause when their own was affected by abortion.

 

[Dmain_Event]

So the white folks who get abortions are the ones that can't afford them?
He might have been old, but wise...?

Don't understand your train of thought... you must be an idiot.
psych... but what the fuck you talking about?

 

[Blunt]

Horseshit. If I'm Pro-Death Penalty I'm not for the forced imposition of lethal injections on any group of the population.

Sure you are, those presumed guilty by a flawed justice system. "Abortion" is a medical procedure which one permits to have exercised upon oneself.

"Pro-Choice" and "Pro-Life" are newspeak. The issue is legalized abortion.

Well, "pro-life" (which is lame) and "pro-abortion" are certainly newspeak. They're inflammatory shorthand. "Pro-choice" is accurate. It allows for either option. The world could conceivably "choose" to never have any more abortions. So-called "pro life" people wish to take away the legal option of abortion (which actually defeats their "pro life" contention by endangering lives and making societies less safe).

The debate is between folks whose positions are "Pro" or "anti" legal abortion.

LOL. Well, that's a totally different argument. The thread said "pro abortion" (which is the language I was specifically responding to). Obviously, the more detailed the description of the debate the better. That's the POINT!!

Imagine Bush saying: "I'm not pro-privatized social security. I'm pro-choice. I just want people to have a fiscally safe and informed choice about where to invest their income."

That would be a wise position, but not an accurate one in his case. I'm not sure he's willing to maintain options for both private and public systems. People should have a "choice" as to how to invest their retirement earnings.

But again, here you're dealing with an external "political/economic" choice about money. The abortion debate involves the fundamental right of individual body sovereignty. Either you are allowed to make decisions (pro or con) about how to deal with a direct, internal extension of your own body (which, until, viable by itself, directly affects only you) or you're not.

It's the same logic. If you are pro-abortion at least have the balls to say it.

Saying you're "pro-choice" implies you're both pro the abortion option (hopefully safe and legal) and pro the birth option (also hopefully safe and legal), whichever the subject wishes to choose. (Go back a hundred years and see how this same debate raged over giving women safe birthing options. Women died at alarming rates during the birth process. Same theme exists now. Men failing to respect women's health issues.) Makes perfect sense. The decision as to which dramatic procedure to have (birth is an even more MAJOR and dangerous form of trauma to the body than abortion) should be the woman's. Obviously.

While I think she is horribly misguided in her no-shame t-shirt campaign, pro-abortion activist Jennifer Baumgardener has the right idea in terms of making perfectly clear what the issue is.

Shame? For exercising dominion over her own body?

A "No Snitching" t-shirt is far more "shameful" and destructive to children/families/society.

Or should the shirt read "I had a choice?"

That would make some sense, though something like "I'm THANKFUL I had a choice" would make even more sense (assuming folks got the context in some other way).

 

[CeeloChamp]

I feel like we need to have 50% more abortions than we are having now.

mufuckin right! i support abortions 1000000000000%

 

[hotair]

Again, I am not stating which side of the fence that I am on here, but I will ask you to consider the following line of thought: "The African Americans that get abortions are the ones that can afford them"(don't worry about where the quote came from niggaz... it was a wize old man). Think about it, abortions aint free. All those bad kids wit lazy ass parents are comming from the segment of our population that can't afford abortions. The black kids that are getting killed are the ones in the middle to upper class segments of our population. If I were against abortion, I would say that no wonder black people are where they are today-all the good ones are getting killed before they can get a chance to prove themselves.
Again, what are your thoughts.

Ever heard of Planned Parenthood?

 

[snail1]

It depends.

 

[Qdizzile]

Abortion is just wrong. I agree100 percent that a lot of irresponsible people shouldn’t be having babies in the first place but Killing that baby you created is not the answer to the problem. I hear all these people bringing up welfare and the fact that parents can’t take care of their kids so they are for abortions to me that shit is ludicrous! The fact that some one would think that a child having a poor upbringing is worse than not having the right to exist doesn’t make sense to me. Now my opinions aren’t based on any racial issues or any thing stupid like that they are based on the fast that I conceder life and time the most precious gift from god and I believe destroying that is wrong.

 

[SAFOOL]

Until the day pro-life women line up to have an unwanted fetus implanted in them I'm going to stay pro-choice.

 

[Blunt]

... they are based on the fast that I conceder life and time the most precious gift from god and I believe destroying that is wrong.

You'd change your mind fast if you were 19 and forced to carry an unwanted "gift from God" for 9 physically excruciating months (with no support from a typically broke and/or missing-in-action babydaddy).

 

[SAFOOL]

You'd change your mind fast if you were 19 and forced to carry an unwanted "gift from God" for 9 physically excruciating months (with no support from a typically broke and/or missing-in-action babydaddy).

Dont forget the girls/women who are raped or who have parents that wouldnt want a kid with a kid.

 

[TRUFICTION]

THE SAME MUTHAFUKAS TALKIN ALL THAT I WONT HAVE AN ABORTION
BECAUSE ITS AGAINST GOD AND ALL THAT OTHER RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT
ARE THE SAME ONES THAT ENGAGED IN THE FORNICATION AND LUST THAT MADE THE FETUS IN THE FIRST PLACE

YOU DONT BLIEVE IN ABORTIONS BUT...
YOU BELIEVE IN PREMARITAL SEX !?

THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT LOGIC AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVING THE ABORTIONS ARE SINGLE PARENTS.

AND TO THE POSTER
PLANNED PARENTHOOD
GIVES FREE ABORTIONS ALL DAY EVERYDAY.
SO THIS IS NOT A MIDDLE CLASS ISSUE.

NO MAN SHOULD EVER HAVE SHIT TO SAY TO ANY WOMAN ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR BODY.
NO MAN HAS TO CARRY A CHILD IN THEIR WOMB.

FINALLY ...........
THIS ATTEMPT TO IMPOSE YOUR VIEWS ON A PORN BOARD IS WEAK AT BEST
MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE ARE REALIST.

GET THIS SHIT OUTTA HERE.
NOT SURREALIST.

 

[Blunt]

Dont forget the girls/women who are raped or who have parents that wouldnt want a kid with a kid.

Doesn't even have to be that extreme. If you don't want it, for whatever reason, no one should be able to force you to carry it. Wanna call it murder (which it clearly isn't since the unformed entity isn't a "person"), then it's justifiable homicide (self-defense). PERIOD.

Folks can deal with their personal religious, moral or guilt issues in their own way on their own time and during their own decision-making sessions ... just don't impose these notions on others.

True "pro-lifers" should be promoting better birth control methodology/education, safe adoption and further research on transplanting unwanted embryos/fetuses to willing carriers. But, of course, that's not their game. They don't give a shit about the "Iives" of the women (or those "sacred" fetuses post-birth). It's all just a lame, uneducated religious crusade that they believe somehow (selfishly) brings them closer to God.

 

[Qdizzile]

You'd change your mind fast if you were 19 and forced to carry an unwanted "gift from God" for 9 physically excruciating months (with no support from a typically broke and/or missing-in-action babydaddy).

First of all I can’t tell you what I would do if I was A female because I’m not! Second its still wrong! If I was 16 and my girl was 15 and we was broke as fuck I still wouldn’t want her to get an abortion its just not in my heart to do so!

 

[TRUFICTION]

First of all I can’t tell you what I would do if I was A female because I’m not! Second its still wrong! If I was 16 and my girl was 15 and we was broke as fuck I still wouldn’t want her to get an abortion its just not in my heart to do so!

RIGHT OR WRONG IT AINT YOUR DESCISION
UNLESS SHE ALLOWS YOU TO ASSIST IN MAKING THAT DESCISION
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY

WHY WOULDNT YOU BE SO SELF RIGHTOUS
WHEN YOU AND YOUR GIRLFRIEND ARE FUCKING ?
TRY SAYIN NO TO SOME PUSSY SINCE YOU HAVE YOUR S AND HER
BEST INTEREST AT HEART.

JUST DONT DO IT AND GO READ YOUR BIBLE.

 

[gene cisco]

First of all I can’t tell you what I would do if I was A female because I’m not! Second its still wrong! If I was 16 and my girl was 15 and we was broke as fuck I still wouldn’t want her to get an abortion its just not in my heart to do so!

And this is why we have all these lil shit 15 year old gang bangers cause they was born to poor stupid folks who dont realize they shouldnt be reproducing yet anyway.

To any pro lifers on the board who ARE AGAINST free choice, you muthafuckas better have adopted some of the nations 1millions of needy kids already born.

Pro lifers kill me, all for fetus rights but when its born............................................its on its own fuck it, get it in the gas chamber if it commits a crime.



If you ever see anybody that is "pro life" and againsts a persons right to choose and thye havent adopted, smack their dumb monkey ass.

 

[Mr. Equator]

RIGHT OR WRONG IT AINT YOUR DESCISION
UNLESS SHE ALLOWS YOU TO ASSIST IN MAKING THAT DESCISION
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY

WHY WOULDNT YOU BE SO SELF RIGHTOUS
WHEN YOU AND YOUR GIRLFRIEND ARE FUCKING ?
TRY SAYIN NO TO SOME PUSSY SINCE YOU HAVE YOUR S AND HER
BEST INTEREST AT HEART.

JUST DONT DO IT AND GO READ YOUR BIBLE.

Co-sign!!
Chuuuuuuuuucccccccccccchhhhh!!!
Amen.....

 

[Blunt]

... I still wouldn’t want her to get an abortion its just not in my heart to do so!

Since you wouldn't be "doing" anything (neither aborting nor carrying to term), the choice isn't ultimately yours. It's only her "heart" that matters since she's the one who has to deal with taking on the physical, mental, and social burdens of pregnancy (not to mention ALL the related serious health risks too).

You made your part of the decision when you didn't wear a condom and/or didn't apply for a marriage license (legalizing a lifetime committment).

 

[SAFOOL]

And this is why we have all these lil shit 15 year old gang bangers cause they was born to poor stupid folks who dont realize they shouldnt be reproducing yet anyway.

To any pro lifers on the board who ARE AGAINST free choice, you muthafuckas better have adopted some of the nations 1millions of needy kids already born.

Pro lifers kill me, all for fetus rights but when its born............................................its on its own fuck it, get it in the gas chamber if it commits a crime.



If you ever see anybody that is "pro life" and againsts a persons right to choose and thye havent adopted, smack their dumb monkey ass.

Co-sign!!

 

[Qdizzile]

THE SAME MUTHAFUKAS TALKIN ALL THAT I WONT HAVE AN ABORTION
BECAUSE ITS AGAINST GOD AND ALL THAT OTHER RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT
ARE THE SAME ONES THAT ENGAGED IN THE FORNICATION AND LUST THAT MADE THE FETUS IN THE FIRST PLACE

YOU DONT BLIEVE IN ABORTIONS BUT...
YOU BELIEVE IN PREMARITAL SEX !?

THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT LOGIC AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE HAVING THE ABORTIONS ARE SINGLE PARENTS.

AND TO THE POSTER
PLANNED PARENTHOOD
GIVES FREE ABORTIONS ALL DAY EVERYDAY.
SO THIS IS NOT A MIDDLE CLASS ISSUE.

NO MAN SHOULD EVER HAVE SHIT TO SAY TO ANY WOMAN ABOUT WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR BODY.
NO MAN HAS TO CARRY A CHILD IN THEIR WOMB.

FINALLY ...........
THIS ATTEMPT TO IMPOSE YOUR VIEWS ON A PORN BOARD IS WEAK AT BEST
MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE ARE REALIST.

GET THIS SHIT OUTTA HERE.
NOT SURREALIST.

I do have to agree with some of what you just said. I mentioned God in my post but my religion isn’t the reason I am against abortion. Do I think abortion should be illegal? No. but I do think it is wrong and wouldn’t ever suggest a woman get one and would do my best to convince my girl to never get one! And the fact that no man should ever have anything to say with what a woman does with her body is just stupid! No man shouldnt be able to force a woman to do something to their body, but sense it takes two to make a baby a man has every right to say how he feels on the subject.