One of the biggest strikes in US history is brewing at UPS

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One of the biggest strikes in US history is brewing at UPS
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New York (CNN Business) Over the past year, the nascent labor movements at mighty corporations like Starbucks and Amazon have grabbed national attention. But less well-known is a looming high-stakes clash between one of America's oldest unions and the world's biggest package courier.

Contract negotiations are set to begin in the spring between UPS and the Teamsters Union ahead of their current contract's expiration at the end of July, 2023. Already, before the talks have even started, labor experts are predicting that the drivers and package handlers will go on strike.

"The question is how long it will be," said Todd Vachon, professor of Labor Relations at Rutgers. "The union's president ran and won on taking a more militant approach. Even if they're very close [to a deal], the rank and file will be hungry to take on the company."

If that happens, a strike at UPS would affect nearly every household in the country. An estimated 6% of the nation's gross domestic product is moved in UPS trucks every year. The explosive growth of online retail has made the company and its drivers more crucial than ever to the nation's struggling supply chain. Beyond the company's home deliveries, it also delivers many of the goods found in stores, factories and offices.

About 350,000 Teamsters work at UPS as drivers and package sorters out of a global workforce of 534,000 permanent employees. And that's growing fast — the company has added some 72,000 Teamster-represented jobs since the start of the pandemic.

While there are competing services at FedEx (FDX), the US Postal Service and Amazon's own delivery service, none of them have the capacity to handle more than a small fraction of the 21.5 million US packages that UPS moves daily.

"We want a contract that provides wins for our employees and that provides UPS the flexibility to stay competitive in a rapidly changing industry," the company said in a statement this month. "UPS and the Teamsters have worked cooperatively for almost 100 years to meet the needs of UPS employees, customers, and the communities where we live and work. We believe we'll continue to find common ground with the Teamsters and reach an agreement that's good for everyone involved."
The union has not gone on strike against UPS since a nearly two-week protest in 1997. If the union does go on strike, it would be the largest strike against a single business in nation's history.

Anger over current contract

There are certainly signs of strain in relations between the company and the union — both its leadership and its rank-and-file members.

A majority of members voted against ratifying the current contract in 2018, only to see the previous Teamster leadership, led by then-President James Hoffa, put it in place because not enough of the membership participated in the ratification vote to trigger a strike.

The union's new president, Sean O'Brien, won his office earlier this year by making the UPS contract a central focus of his campaign. He has vowed to make UPS pay Teamster members far more this time and he often talks about a $300 million strike fund the union has accumulated to pay members in case they go on strike.

"Do our members wake up every day wanting a strike. I'd say no. But are they fed up? Yes they're fed up," O'Brien told CNN Business last week. "Whether or not there is a strike, that's totally up to the company. We're going to utilize as much leverage as we can to get our members the contract they deserve."

UPS said the average pay for its delivery drivers is $95,000 a year, with benefits such as a traditional pension plan, worth an additional $50,000 a year. UPS' semi-tractor drivers are paid even more. That's far higher than most wages at FedEx and Amazon, where many drivers work for small independent contractors.

The current contract expires at 12:01 am August 1. O'Brien vows the union will not grant any kind of contract extension past that deadline.

And he added that on top of improved pay and benefits, the union will demand better working conditions, including adding air conditioning in the panel trucks used for UPS deliveries which the union says poses a health risk for drivers.

"It's not a heavy lift for the company to install air conditioning," he said. "There's a lot of heat stroke going on."

Record profits at UPS

The company often speaks about how much it values its Teamster-represented workforce.

And in one important way -- employment numbers -- UPS is one of the best friends labor has in the ranks of US corporate management, despite the obvious tensions. UPS is one of the few unionized employers that is significantly adding payrolls, and to union membership. At other businesses, union membership numbers have been steadily declining or decades.

The increase in Teamsters jobs at UPS has come from the steady growth in online purchases, especially during the pandemic-era surge. Last year, it took only nine months to report what was already a record profit for a full year. UPS ended 2021 with operating income up 50% to $13.1 billion. In the first half of this year, earnings rose another 10% compared with a year ago.

"Everyone keeps getting richer except for our members," said O'Brien.
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UPS CEO Carol Tome, who started that job just as the pandemic began, says that the company's union contract is a competitive advantage at a time of worker shortages.

She also is trying to assure both investors and UPS customers that the company will be prepared in case the union does go on strike. She declined to comment on what those preparations are.

"Our goal with the Teamsters is win-win-win," she told investors in July. But she added that UPS is "building contingency plans."

 
Yeah, because of their union

but it's a rough as job and a lot end up having physical problems

Back in the day, I once worked as a "holiday helper" for UPS during the Thanksgiving to Christman/New Years period. They had my ass runnin' and hustlin'! :D Helping to load the truck, then riding around with the driver delivering packages, walking and running and sliding over ice and snow, getting chased by dogs..........I was through after all that shit! I know I dropped about 15 lbs just from the job!
 
Back in the day, I once worked as a "holiday helper" for UPS during the Thanksgiving to Christman/New Years period. They had my ass runnin' and hustlin'! :D Helping to load the truck, then riding around with the driver delivering packages, walking and running and sliding over ice and snow, getting chased by dogs..........I was through after all that shit! I know I dropped about 15 lbs just from the job!

I saw a TikTok of one of the trucks at the beginning of their shift. The way they stuff those trucks is crazy :smh:
 
They gonna bust that union.

They fucked over the pension contract a few years back in court. Strike One.




Then UPS sold off “UPS Freight” which is their LTL division to TFI International based in Canada. They are a non-union company. Strike Two.


This is Strike Three….
 
They are highly paid compared to other delivery companies. FedEx drivers are paid way less.

While I believe in unions, some unions allow their greed to fuck up the big picture.
 
They are highly paid compared to other delivery companies. FedEx drivers are paid way less.


And FedEx's customer service reflects that... only thing reliable about them is their overnight / next day service.

Recently I had a driver leave a box at the edge of my driveway near the street (my driveway is about 3 car-lengths long). Said it was too heavy to carry and apparently it's rare for them to carry a dolly :smh:
 
And FedEx's customer service reflects that... only thing reliable about them is their overnight / next day service.

Recently I had a driver leave a box at the edge of my driveway near the street (my driveway is about 3 car-lengths long). Said it was too heavy to carry and apparently it's rare for them to carry a dolly :smh:

When FedEx bought RPS it killed their reputation. Those home deliveries are done by different drivers than the overnight/next day stuff and they are some bullshit.
 
Wait a UPS driver makes 95k?
Yup I heard 100k but they work the hell out of you and thats overtime
Nope
Starting drivers make like $35k.
You have to put in like 15 years to get to those numbers

Back when I was in college I worked for UPS as a Air Walker. I was in the union, in UPS uniform picking up next day air packages but didn't drive a truck. This was in the 42nd & 5th ave area. Most drivers in that area at that time made over 150k a year and yes they worked from 7am to 8pm. Their trucks never left the block and they serviced the whole block they was stationed on. @tallblacknyc posted about NY Transit. UPS is another gig that has cats retiring early with a nice fat pension. This is gonna be interesting because the pressure is going to be on from the private sector to avoid a strike.
 
Yeah it's like 17-18 a hour to start but it's draining, you gotta be in good shape.
Yep. Real talk.
Like 3 or 4 years ago I wanted a new job and went on an interview because I thought they did okay.

They told me the pay, said I'd get a raise in like 10years and said I had to shave my beard too lol. I looked at that cac like he had an extra head and dead ass got up and walked out of the interview lol.
 
Yeah
Yep. Real talk.
Like 3 or 4 years ago I wanted a new job and went on an interview because I thought they did okay.

They told me the pay, said I'd get a raise in like 10years and said I had to shave my beard too lol. I looked at that cac like he had an extra head and dead ass got up and walked out of the interview lol.

Lying to prospects or withholding information just to get them to show up at the interview is a massive red flag.

They did something similar to me at the Oakland Marriott when I applied for an AV position. First they took $2 an hour off the table then asked me if I could do part-time shifts in San Jose and Half Moon Bay (at least 30 minutes to an hour away). I walked out of the room same as you did.

About a year later I randomly ran into the guy who did get the job. Told me that almost none of his shifts were in Oakland and they were giving him less than 20 hours a week at the other locations.

If an employee tried to do that to their boss they would get fired, blackballed, arrested, and buried alive in an unmarked grave.
 
Yeah


Lying to prospects or withholding information just to get them to show up at the interview is a massive red flag.

They did something similar to me at the Oakland Marriott when I applied for an AV position. First they took $2 an hour off the table then asked me if I could do part-time shifts in San Jose and Half Moon Bay (at least 30 minutes to an hour away). I walked out of the room same as you did.

About a year later I randomly ran into the guy who did get the job. Told me that almost none of his shifts were in Oakland and they were giving him less than 20 hours a week at the other locations.

If an employee tried to do that to their boss they would get fired, blackballed, arrested, and buried alive in an unmarked grave.
Yep I know exactly what you mean.
The UPS I interviewed at was in expensive ass SJ near Spartan stadium.
I just assumed they would pay decent seeing how you need $3500 a month for a 1 bedroom lol.
I was not about to drive in hour traffic for joke wages

Shame on these corporations
 
Yeah I've been dealing with a customer having issues sending some stuff back because of this strike lol.
 
I don’t know if you know that many corporate workers are required to help during XMas. This is not anything new or insulting.
My guy worked corporate for them over 10 years and every Christmas the CORPORATE WORKERS had to go throw boxes to help out. And he was Director level exec!

Fuck that shit
 
Yep I know exactly what you mean.
The UPS I interviewed at was in expensive ass SJ near Spartan stadium.
I just assumed they would pay decent seeing how you need $3500 a month for a 1 bedroom lol.
I was not about to drive in hour traffic for joke wages

Shame on these corporations

I saw an interview with an owner of Slices Pizza in San francisco. Said he had to shut down because his "liberal" employees expected $16 an hour.

In other words it's the workers fault that he didn't check the SF minimum wage before he set up shop. LoL
 
Back when I was in college I worked for UPS as a Air Walker. I was in the union, in UPS uniform picking up next day air packages but didn't drive a truck. This was in the 42nd & 5th ave area. Most drivers in that area at that time made over 150k a year and yes they worked from 7am to 8pm. Their trucks never left the block and they serviced the whole block they was stationed on. @tallblacknyc posted about NY Transit. UPS is another gig that has cats retiring early with a nice fat pension. This is gonna be interesting because the pressure is going to be on from the private sector to avoid a strike.
Lol they just don’t know about all these no college needed jobs for 18 yr old and up that can make you clock 6 figs and up and have you set for life in nyc.. that’s why I said job opportunities with zero college education is plenty if you are properly informed about the system of nyc.. as you and I know this is why certain sectors were prime scouting grounds for clientele for stripper events.. cause once you plugged into certain sectors all you need is the right female talent and connect them with the money dudes and lots of money is made.. these new promoters don’t know about that shit and why it fucked up the game
 
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