he 21 w/ a fresh start...you @ least 60 acting an ass @ 5AM on a sunday
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he 21 w/ a fresh start...you @ least 60 acting an ass @ 5AM on a sunday
I’m not 60+ tho
depends...on the path I’m on? yes...where you are? no
60+ smh...I wasn’t even talking to you from the start
you can call me a “fag” 20+ years from now if I’m angry enough to start shit just to have someone talk to me @ 5 in the morning
He's been the opposite in terms of work ethic and bitchassness since arriving in Brooklyn. Not advocating the Nick Young thing because that was some ho shit but besides that what has he done?
Feels like he been trashed by the Lakers (Magic, Byron Scott, Shaw) to make the Lonzo pick sound more appealing when in reality, the two could have played alongside each other. Also telling that Luke Walton never had anything negative to say about Russell.
I'm saying, people thought it was just Byron Scott...he got a new coach, hell, new everything, Magic and Pelinka. Their attitude about him that just developed in a year said a lot.
Granted I think Magic is wrong for bashing him after getting rid of him.
But I think it tells you about D'Angelo. He wants to score that's it. I never heard about his work ethic like Randall or Ingram.
How do you know his work ethic has been different?
It's not something that's usually revealed. They just don't talk about it.
And also who's work ethic do you have him to compare too? What other young talent do you have? Hell, vet leadership? I think you guys might just be happy to have him. After not having a draft pick for years.
Luke never said anything, probably because that's not his style. Brian Shaw never said anything about him publicly either. You see how he feels about him. Magic just said it publicly, which was wrong.
And no, they couldn't have played beside each other, because his defense is trash. And he also wasn't a leader and wouldn't have set a good example. And I don't think his teammates cared for him that much.
How do you know his work ethic has been different?
It's not something that's usually revealed. They just don't talk about it.
And also who's work ethic do you have him to compare too? What other young talent do you have? Hell, vet leadership? I think you guys might just be happy to have him. After not having a draft pick for years.
Luke never said anything, probably because that's not his style. Brian Shaw never said anything about him publicly either. You see how he feels about him. Magic just said it publicly, which was wrong.
And no, they couldn't have played beside each other, because his defense is trash. And he also wasn't a leader and wouldn't have set a good example. And I don't think his teammates cared for him that much.
Soon as he got traded he started working with the go to trainer immediately and has been grinding all summer. Also our coaches said he's been in the gym all summer long. His numbers (20/5) show improvement.
I'm comparing his own work ethic now to then. He's in the gym all the time, improving. In terms of young talent, we've got a 22 year old RHJ averaging more points than Randle, a 24 Spencer Dinwiddie leading the league in plus minus and averaging 18/8 without Russell there. A 23 year Caris Levert who's finding his stride after a foot injury and is averaging 10 a game. Lastly a 19 year old Jarrett Allen, who's averaging 2 blocks a game and showing improvements by the game. With all that, yes we were happy to get Russell but he's not our only young talent.
I don't think you can't label a player as a non leader within his first two years of playing. Let him grow like we should let Lonzo grow. And the teammates didn't like him angle is bullshit unless you can post some proof.
Bro will you stfu! Seriously, you're coming off like an offended bitch. My comments were on subject and about the person/topic being discussed. You turned it into some personal bullshit and now wanna bitch about someone starting shit. Fuck off man.
My comment wasnt about what hes done since. It was a response to LSN calling Laker execs/employees petty. They were having a truthful, private conversation about an ex employee. That kinda shit happens everyday. I also said heir comments were warranted and accurate based on their experience with him.
Man i dont think it has anything to do with the Lonzo pick. The guy had a shit reputation in and out of the locker room. And tho Scott has a track record of bumping heads with young talent, Shaw and Magic typically dont. And if they all seem to be on the same page about the guy then maybe its more on D'angelo than anyone else. But again, i dont know what hes doing now, that wasnt what i was responding to.
lmao says the dude still trying to start this shit up literally hours later...this how you act @ 60+ grow. the. fuck. up. lol I see now why the “petty” comment bothered you smh
Brett Brown Not Playing Jahlil Okafor in Garbage Time ‘Out of Respect’
Sixers head coach Brett Brown won’t play Jahlil Okafor—not even in garbage time.
After the Sixers’ 101-81 blowout win against the Blazers on Wednesday, Brown said he didn’t put Okafor in the game “out of respect to him.”
Was there any thought of putting in Okafor [during garbage time] to get some minutes?
Brown: “No. I don’t think it’s fair. I think that you get into a playing rhythm, a playing routine, and that’s fair.
“To just hoist somebody a little tiny window of minutes isn’t something that interests me.
“And I say that out of respect to him. I don’t think that puts him in a position that I want to put him in.”
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http://www.slamonline.com/nba/brett...bage-time-out-of-respect/#GhmiKpTEYCTGX5xS.97
Sixers head coach Brett Brown won’t play Jahlil Okafor—not even in garbage time.
After the Sixers’ 101-81 blowout win against the Blazers on Wednesday, Brown said he didn’t put Okafor in the game “out of respect to him.”
Was there any thought of putting in Okafor [during garbage time] to get some minutes?
Brown: “No. I don’t think it’s fair. I think that you get into a playing rhythm, a playing routine, and that’s fair.
“To just hoist somebody a little tiny window of minutes isn’t something that interests me.
“And I say that out of respect to him. I don’t think that puts him in a position that I want to put him in.”
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Mychal Thompson: Jahlil Okafor Is Like ‘A Harley In Your Garage Collecting Dust’
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/brett...bage-time-out-of-respect/#GhmiKpTEYCTGX5xS.97
McCollum hits clutch jumper to seal the game.
CJ McCollum pulls up with Otto Porter Jr. in his face and knocks it down. The Trail Blazers go on to beat the Wizards 108-105.
The Washington Wizards had a 94-77 lead with 8:14 left in the fourth quarter against the visiting Portland Trail Blazers. From that point until the end of the game, the Wizards were outscored 13-11 by Portland SG CJ McCollum, and 31-11 overall by the Trail Blazers as Portland stole a 108-105 win. McCollum made 6-of-7 FGs during Portland's comeback run from down 17, while Washington made only 5 of their last 18 shots.
CJ McCollum pulls up with Otto Porter Jr. in his face and knocks it down. The Trail Blazers go on to beat the Wizards 108-105.
The Washington Wizards had a 94-77 lead with 8:14 left in the fourth quarter against the visiting Portland Trail Blazers. From that point until the end of the game, the Wizards were outscored 13-11 by Portland SG CJ McCollum, and 31-11 overall by the Trail Blazers as Portland stole a 108-105 win. McCollum made 6-of-7 FGs during Portland's comeback run from down 17, while Washington made only 5 of their last 18 shots.
Pelton mail: Should the Clippers re-sign or trade DeAndre Jordan?
LA Clippers center DeAndre Jordan can become the franchise's all-time leader in games played this season. Kevin C. Cox/Getty
This week's mailbag features your questions on blocked-shots impact, protecting big leads and more.
If it takes the max to sign DeAndre Jordan, I would definitely walk away. After all, Jordan will be in the 35 percent max category with 10 years of experience, so a max contract for him would be an estimated $205 million over five years. That means paying Jordan nearly $47 million for his age-34 season.
In practice, I'm not sure the Clippers will have to make such a decision because I don't think Jordan will get a full max offer from anyone else. Only a handful of teams are in position to make such an offer, and as I noted over the summer when discussing Nerlens Noel's prospects in free agency, few of them really need a center.
At a more reasonable price, I would have interest in re-signing Jordan -- particularly if his contract would remain tradeable should the Clippers decide to rebuild or need cap space for a marquee free agent.
As for the second half of your question ... well, that depends on how much value the Clippers are getting from Jordan this season. If they indeed fall out of playoff contention after losing Patrick Beverley to season-ending knee surgery, a Jordan trade is definitely the way to go.
Using Second Spectrum data, we can calculate this. Through Wednesday, here's the number of shots defended via Second Spectrum tracking and the percentage of those that players have blocked (shot percentage) along with the traditional stat -- blocks as a percentage of 2-pointers attempted while the player is on the court (2A percentage).
Brandan Wright!), the two lists look awfully similar. And if you chart these two statistics for all players who have defended at least 50 shots, it's easy to see how well they track each other. The correlation between them is almost 1 to 1 (it is, in fact, .96).
To the extent the two stats differ, I'm not necessarily sure it's good to do better in blocks per shot defended than per opponent 2-point attempt percentage. After all, part of rim protection is being in position to defend the rim! Given that and the fact that traditional block percentage can be calculated back for decades, I don't think there's a compelling reason to make a change.
"I get the impression that the beginning of the season has been more competitive this year than in the past (in that wins are more equally distributed between teams). Is there any statistical evidence of that?"
-- Omri
There is, yes. Although we're not quite there, I figured the 20-game mark was a good point of comparison, so I projected teams' winning percentages out to 20 games each and looked at the standard deviation of wins as compared to the past decade. Lo and behold, 2017-18 would have the lowest spread in wins over the first 20 games in that group.
Boston Celtics and Houston Rockets are the lone two teams that have won more than three-quarters of their games so far, while just three teams (the Atlanta Hawks, Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings) are shy of winning one-quarter of their games. By contrast, in 2014-15 -- the least competitive 20-game stretch to start a season in the past decade -- an incredible eight teams started 15-5 or better and seven started 5-15 or worse.
It's interesting that the past three seasons, including this one, have all ranked among the four most competitive over the first 20 games dating back to 2007-08. For all the perception of stratification in the NBA, that hasn't been the case early in the regular season.
"I was listening to Jeff Van Gundy on Zach Lowe's podcast and he made an interesting comment about the perceived value of ~15-point leads in the modern NBA given the rise of the 3-pointer. Is there any statistical evidence to back this up? Are teams coming back more often than they used to from big leads? Are teams building more big leads due to 3-pointers?"
-- Colin K-D
As is often the case, Coach Van Gundy is onto something. While he and Zach mentioned early leads, I decided to look at games in which teams led at halftime by between 14 and 16 points (so as to expand the sample beyond what it would be if looking just at 15-point leads). This data can be compiled using Basketball-Reference.com's score finder.
From year to year, there's naturally a huge amount of randomness in the percentage of those games in which the team with a halftime lead goes on to win. So I looked at win percentage over the previous five seasons to try to filter out that noise. With that adjustment, a pattern becomes apparent:
For most of the 3-point era, teams have won about 90 percent of the time when they lead by 14 to 16 points at halftime. That has trended downward recently, with the most recent five-year span (including 2017-18) so far a new low-water mark at just 85 percent. A 15-point lead remains pretty comfortable, but not as much so as once was the case.
As for your second question, there doesn't seem to be any trend toward teams leading more by about 15 points, at least at halftime. The percentage of games with a halftime lead between 14 and 16 points has hovered around 8 percent of all games throughout the 3-point era.
LA Clippers center DeAndre Jordan can become the franchise's all-time leader in games played this season. Kevin C. Cox/Getty
This week's mailbag features your questions on blocked-shots impact, protecting big leads and more.
If it takes the max to sign DeAndre Jordan, I would definitely walk away. After all, Jordan will be in the 35 percent max category with 10 years of experience, so a max contract for him would be an estimated $205 million over five years. That means paying Jordan nearly $47 million for his age-34 season.
In practice, I'm not sure the Clippers will have to make such a decision because I don't think Jordan will get a full max offer from anyone else. Only a handful of teams are in position to make such an offer, and as I noted over the summer when discussing Nerlens Noel's prospects in free agency, few of them really need a center.
At a more reasonable price, I would have interest in re-signing Jordan -- particularly if his contract would remain tradeable should the Clippers decide to rebuild or need cap space for a marquee free agent.
As for the second half of your question ... well, that depends on how much value the Clippers are getting from Jordan this season. If they indeed fall out of playoff contention after losing Patrick Beverley to season-ending knee surgery, a Jordan trade is definitely the way to go.
Using Second Spectrum data, we can calculate this. Through Wednesday, here's the number of shots defended via Second Spectrum tracking and the percentage of those that players have blocked (shot percentage) along with the traditional stat -- blocks as a percentage of 2-pointers attempted while the player is on the court (2A percentage).
Brandan Wright!), the two lists look awfully similar. And if you chart these two statistics for all players who have defended at least 50 shots, it's easy to see how well they track each other. The correlation between them is almost 1 to 1 (it is, in fact, .96).
To the extent the two stats differ, I'm not necessarily sure it's good to do better in blocks per shot defended than per opponent 2-point attempt percentage. After all, part of rim protection is being in position to defend the rim! Given that and the fact that traditional block percentage can be calculated back for decades, I don't think there's a compelling reason to make a change.
"I get the impression that the beginning of the season has been more competitive this year than in the past (in that wins are more equally distributed between teams). Is there any statistical evidence of that?"
-- Omri
There is, yes. Although we're not quite there, I figured the 20-game mark was a good point of comparison, so I projected teams' winning percentages out to 20 games each and looked at the standard deviation of wins as compared to the past decade. Lo and behold, 2017-18 would have the lowest spread in wins over the first 20 games in that group.
Boston Celtics and Houston Rockets are the lone two teams that have won more than three-quarters of their games so far, while just three teams (the Atlanta Hawks, Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings) are shy of winning one-quarter of their games. By contrast, in 2014-15 -- the least competitive 20-game stretch to start a season in the past decade -- an incredible eight teams started 15-5 or better and seven started 5-15 or worse.
It's interesting that the past three seasons, including this one, have all ranked among the four most competitive over the first 20 games dating back to 2007-08. For all the perception of stratification in the NBA, that hasn't been the case early in the regular season.
"I was listening to Jeff Van Gundy on Zach Lowe's podcast and he made an interesting comment about the perceived value of ~15-point leads in the modern NBA given the rise of the 3-pointer. Is there any statistical evidence to back this up? Are teams coming back more often than they used to from big leads? Are teams building more big leads due to 3-pointers?"
-- Colin K-D
As is often the case, Coach Van Gundy is onto something. While he and Zach mentioned early leads, I decided to look at games in which teams led at halftime by between 14 and 16 points (so as to expand the sample beyond what it would be if looking just at 15-point leads). This data can be compiled using Basketball-Reference.com's score finder.
From year to year, there's naturally a huge amount of randomness in the percentage of those games in which the team with a halftime lead goes on to win. So I looked at win percentage over the previous five seasons to try to filter out that noise. With that adjustment, a pattern becomes apparent:
For most of the 3-point era, teams have won about 90 percent of the time when they lead by 14 to 16 points at halftime. That has trended downward recently, with the most recent five-year span (including 2017-18) so far a new low-water mark at just 85 percent. A 15-point lead remains pretty comfortable, but not as much so as once was the case.
As for your second question, there doesn't seem to be any trend toward teams leading more by about 15 points, at least at halftime. The percentage of games with a halftime lead between 14 and 16 points has hovered around 8 percent of all games throughout the 3-point era.
smh 60
Reality that was a salary dump for both teams. Lakers got rid of Mosgov and we got rid of Lopez while acquiring a former second overall pick who's averaging 20/5 this season.
Man truth be told...Russell was done after that Nick Young shit....(if my opinion was asked, I'd say what I thought)
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