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Jeff Teague slipping away from Knicks for worrying reason
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Pacers point guard Jeff Teague, among the array of marquee free-agent playmakers available in July, admits he once hoped to get traded to the Knicks from Atlanta when GM Steve Mills inquired back near the trade deadline in early 2014.

That was a month before Phil Jackson and the triangle. Teague acknowledged New York likely will be a spot he investigates this July, saying, “Everybody loves New York.’’

However, Teague indicated the triangle offense isn’t well-suited for a penetrating point guard like himself and Knicks incumbent Derrick Rose.

Teague, traded from the Hawks last summer to his hometown Pacers, said he’s not too familiar with the triangle except for the few times he’s been asked to defend it. Jacksonhas ordered a renewed emphasis on the triangle since the week before the All-Star break.

“I never played in the triangle,’’ Teague told The Post before facing the Knicks on Tuesday at the Garden. “I don’t know too much about it – just from guarding it years in the past. So I recognize it.’’

Is it difficult to guard? Teague laughed.

“Not really,’’ Teague said. “I’m not saying you can’t defend it. I think a player like Rose, it gives you a better chance of containing him.”


Jeff Teague guards Derrick Rose during a Knicks-Pacers game on March 14.Anthony J. Causi
Teague has never been an unrestricted free agent and may consider doing a tour, though he’s a native son of Indiana. Teague was a restricted free agent in 2013, but his offer sheet from the Bucks was matched by the Hawks.

Rose also will be a free agent, and his lukewarm vision of the triangle (“random basketball’’) is likely a reason he’s a long shot to return. Rose scoffed when asked if missing 16 days of training camp — he was a defendant in a civil sexual assault trial in California — hurt his learning of the triangle.

“I felt we had a sense of the triangle when we came out [of camp],’’ Rose said. “I pick up things quick. Me being gone away at trial wasn’t a problem. You just pass the ball to the top and run to the corner. How hard could that [be]. That’s not hard at all.”

Teague, who turns 29 in June, is a solid penetrator like Rose, but a more creative passer and significantly better 3-point shooter. Teague is averaging 15.1 points, 7.9 assists and hitting 35 percent of his 3-pointers.

“I think everybody loves New York,’’ Teague said when asked about considering the Knicks. “It’s a great place to play. ‘’

Teague was eager to learn the Knicks had investigated his availability three years ago when the Hawks shopped him.

“My brother called me,’’ Teague said. “I was open to it. I thought they had real nice players here. I was excited.’’
 
Why the Warriors needed to take a step back





SAN ANTONIO – A few hours before theGolden State Warriors placed in greater peril their hold on the Western Conference’s top seed and willingly surrendered a tiebreaker to the San Antonio Spurs, Stephen Curry was seated in front of his locker-room stall, gleefully staring into his smartphone with his headphones in his ears. Coach Steve Kerr’s decision to sit his three remaining, healthy All-Stars and a vital reserve drew considerable criticism, but it was a calculated risk worth taking for a team that needed a mental and emotional break from the game.

The physical vulnerability that came from playing eight games in eight different cities in 13 days was obvious. But the Warriors needed to not concern themselves with exerting every ounce of energy to continue compensating for Kevin Durant’s absence – and holding on to a Western Conference lead that they might eventually cede. The Warriors have played one way over the past three seasons, with a level of unprecedented intensity that was unrealistic to sustain, regardless of pulling one of the greatest free-agent coups in NBA history last summer. After churning out wins at an alarming rate and spoiling fans with their sustained dominance, they needed a chance to not care about something important.

Curry’s joy during that quiet moment, all alone with his phone, revealed the importance of disengaging. Through their unexpected rise to join the NBA elite, the Warriors have gone from heroic underdogs to hated for being on top. They wanted to embrace the role of villain after luring Durant – and they certainly have some villainous elements on the roster. But it hasn’t been a role in which they’ve thrived. There have been moments when Klay Thompson has dropped 60 points in 29 minutes, when Curry strutted after a 3-point barrage or when Durant has simply been Durant, but there has also been less fun, less magic. And every misstep – which continues to be rare – has either raised panic or inspired more ridicule.


The Warriors have lost five of seven, their worst stretch of basketball since Kerr became head coach. But every team endures bad stretches, why can’t these guys? After their 107-85 loss to the Spurs on Saturday night, Golden State remains on a 65-win pace. And here comes some perspective: There have been 19 65-win seasons in NBA history and the Warriors could potentially have three in a row.

“If this is tough, then we don’t got it that bad. We don’t have much to complain about. I’ve been in tougher situations,” Warriors reserveShaun Livingston told The Vertical. “But end of the day, it’s good to get a rest. Guys needed it, to get away from the game, probably. It’s been a long season. Always a long season. Probably a little longer this season, considering everything we’re going through.”

Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls had the most incredible three-year stretch in NBA history, winning 72, 69 and 62 games in successive seasons. The Warriors would only need to go 12-4 the rest of the season to have a better regular-season run. Larry Bird’s Boston Celtics won 60 games each season from 1984-86, peaking at 67 wins in the final season but began to decline every season afterward. The franchise wouldn’t win 60 games for another 22 years. Bill Russell’s Celtics never won more than 62 games. Shaquille O’Neal’s three-peating Los Angeles Lakers won 67 games in the first season under Phil Jackson but never won more than 58 the rest of the way. Magic Johnson’s Lakers finished first in the West every season from 1981-90, winning at least 62 games four straight seasons between 1984-1988. They won three championships during that latter stretch but only won 65 games once.


The Spurs have won five championships during this 20-year playoff streak but only two of those title runs were attached to 60-win seasons. They have also been that quiet source of motivation the past two seasons. It’s often forgotten that the Warriors essentially had to win at least 70 games last season to simply hold on to the top seed. San Antonio didn’t have its stars for Saturday’s game, but injuries forced coach Gregg Popovich’s hand – Kawhi Leonard was undergoing concussion protocol, LaMarcus Aldridge was shutdown indefinitely with a heart arrhythmia and Tony Parker had a back injury – not his known habit of needling the league’s network partners by putting first the health of his players. Aldridge will continue to have more tests on Monday to determine what comes next. His health scare could have a long-term influence, especially given his past heart problems.

No one should fault Kerr if he decides to scale back a little more over the final 16 games after resting Curry, Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala on Saturday night. It’s easy to get caught up in the debate over resting stars, the grueling NBA schedule and shafted fans. But Kerr’s decision went beyond not leaving his players susceptible to injury. His Warriors are the overachieving honor student, on the verge of a breakdown, learning that getting an A-plus on every assignment isn’t more important than passing the final exam.

“You can see, sometimes the physical wear and tear and you can see it, cognitively, as well. You get beaten down, you get worn down, your mind doesn’t work as well, either,” Kerr said. “You can have these wild swings of feeling prepared or feeling wiped out. Yes, you have to play through all that stuff, but if a coach can help you out every once in a while and give you a break, that’s a good thing.”

The Warriors had no intention of replicating what happened last season. And they wouldn’t have been the same had they decided to bring back Andrew Bogut, Harrison Barnes, Mo Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Brandon Rush and Festus Ezili. Golden State played with postseason intensity throughout their run to 73 wins. Curry’s unfortunate knee injury in the first round disrupted much of the team’s flow, but the final two rounds of the playoffs exposed something else that was concerning to the team: When Oklahoma City and Cleveland elevated their level of the play, the Warriors couldn’t go higher. That’s why they needed Durant. More than greed, more than a desire to be unfair to the rest of the league, the Warriors needed Durant to remain “light years” ahead. The Warriors’ struggles without Durant have proven his importance to the team.

Before the season began, Draymond Green explained to The Vertical why a team that was about to set the NBA regular-season wins record would even need to consider adding a former league MVP. “Obviously, when you add a player like Kevin Durant, you end up with more than just one thing,” Green told The Vertical. “It’s not, ‘Oh, we’re trying to fill in a gap.’ You don’t fill in a gap with a Kevin Durant. The things he adds to this team, he’s going to fill more than one category. It’s a bunch of categories. He’s an MVP, scoring champion multiple times, he’s done some great things in this league, and we hope to continue to help him do more great things.”

Golden State won’t win a championship without Durant. The time with Durant sidelined, however, could help Curry, Thompson and Green recalibrate their games and fight through no longer leaning on his consistent brilliance. Or the challenge of wanting to do too much. Curry looks like a flame-throwing pitcher who lost a little off his heater and he appears to be pressing of late. He had the most difficult adjustment of any player on the team, going from All-Star to superstar to all-time superstar before having his ascension disrupted when he slipped on a wet spot in Houston in last year’s postseason. Another dumb-luck incident – Zaza Pachulia getting tossed into Durant’s knee – has raised the expectations for Curry to be that mesmerizing player once again. But that’s unfair. For Curry. And the Warriors. They all just need to dial it back a bit. Put their excellence in perspective. Sit back. Smile into a phone. And chill.

“People don’t understand how hard it is to win in the NBA. It’s not easy to do. The last couple of years have been an anomaly, in a sense of putting together so many wins, staying healthy,” Livingston told The Vertical. “Fantasy owners, if you don’t go 82-0, the world is over. But in an NBA locker room, it doesn’t work that way. We don’t think that way. We don’t feel that way.”
 
Cavaliers settle for second-best, which is plenty good enough
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This was the Cleveland Cavaliers at their very best. Or, to put it another way, at their very second-best.

That was especially so in the first quarter, in which they shot 85 percent, making 17-of-20 shots. And it’s not like they were easy shots.

The 85 percent shooting was the second-best field-goal shooting in a quarter this season. The Cavaliers hold the top spot too, having shot 86.7 percent against the Rockets on Nov. 1.

LeBron James had his 10th triple-double of the season, matching his total from his previous five seasons combined. He’s the first player in Cavaliers history to have 10 in a season. What was distinct about this one was that he did it quickly. James played 28:24, the fewest minutes he has played in a triple-double.

Elias Sports Bureau research shows that this is the first season in NBA history to have three players with at least 10 triple-doubles (Russell Westbrook, James Harden and James).

State of the 3-point shot

The Cavaliers have now made 878 3-pointers this season, two shy of their total from 2016-17.

Kyrie Irving’s four (on four attempts) gave him 144, 60 more than he had last season (in six more games). Irving is shooting 38.7 percent from 3-point range.

If Irving shot what he shot last season on 3-pointers (32.1 percent), he’d have made only 119.

Six of the seven Cavaliers who took more than one 3-pointer shot at least 50 percent from 3-point range for the game. The only one who didn’t was James, who was 0-of-2.

Regardless, James is shooting 38.5 percent from the season, which would be the second-best percentage of his career, topped only by his 40.6 percent with the Heat in 2012-13.
 
If you're looking for the Rockets in New Orleans the next few days, don't. Due to extremely high hotel prices, the team is staying in Baton Rouge. Rockets will hold shootaround in Baton Rouge and then bus in the day of the game on Friday.
 
Kevin Love, out since Feb. 14 knee surgery, to start for Cavs on Thursday
CLEVELAND -- Kevin Love will make an earlier-than-expected return to the Cavaliers.

The All-Star forward will start Thursday night against the Utah Jazz, with the team making the announcement a day after general manager David Griffin had said Love likely would be back on the Cavs' upcoming four-game road trip.

On Feb. 14, Love underwent arthroscopic surgery to have a loose body removed from his left knee. He was expected to miss six weeks.

Clippers on Saturday and the Lakers on Sunday.

Cleveland went just 7-6 in the 13 games Love missed. Lue said his contributions -- 20 points, 11.1 rebounds and 1.9 assists per game -- will be welcome. And not just the stats, but the manner by which Love goes about getting them.

"Well, his defensive rebounding for one," Lue said of what Love will bring to the Cavs, who were outboarded 12.0 to 7.2 offensively per game while he was sidelined. "The second thing is, just when we get those leads and we're getting jump-shot happy, we're able to throw the ball into the post and slow the game down. Either he's going to score or get to the free throw line. That's what was good for us before.

'When LeBron [James] goes out of the game, him and Kyrie [Irving] are kind of working that two-man game. That's what we missed the most, just slowing the game down, posting the basketball and either him scoring or getting to the free throw line."

Kyle Korver, meanwhile, will miss his fifth straight game Thursday due to a sore left foot. Lue said the veteran shooter is expected back on the court early in the upcoming road trip, which begins Saturday in L.A.
 
Should the Knicks wan't Teague?

He's not a top ten PG

Teague is basic as hell. Can't wait until he's gone. He's out here stalling, giving minimal effort.

What I want is George Hill to re-sign. 4 years. Trade PG. And let Teague walk and rebuild. That dude is a straight bozo. I can't stand him.:smh:
 
Teague is basic as hell. Can't wait until he's gone. He's out here stalling, giving minimal effort.

What I want is George Hill to re-sign. 4 years. Trade PG. And let Teague walk and rebuild. That dude is a straight bozo. I can't stand him.:smh:


Shit y'all had Hill and didn't want him
 
Shit y'all had Hill and didn't want him

Exactly why they need to fire Bird. He wanted this uptempo style, but signed Teague to a deal in which he would make sure he wouldn't get injured. Who does that?:dunno: He's out here stalling. Been watching him all year, here and there.

Hill is from the city as well, and loved playing for Indy. Fire Bird and bring back Hill to lead this rebuilding process. Pay the man. Bring in Zach Randolph too. Hill isn't that aggressive but can play some defense and hit threes. And has a positive attitude. Fuck Teague, as a player. He's watching Conley and wants some cash to play hard. Get his ass out of there.:angry:
 
Exactly why they need to fire Bird. He wanted this uptempo style, but signed Teague to a deal in which he would make sure he wouldn't get injured. Who does that?:dunno: He's out here stalling. Been watching him all year, here and there.

Hill is from the city as well, and loved playing for Indy. Fire Bird and bring back Hill to lead this rebuilding process. Pay the man. Bring in Zach Randolph too. Hill isn't that aggressive but can play some defense and hit threes. And has a positive attitude. Fuck Teague, as a player. He's watching Conley and wants some cash to play hard. Get his ass out of there.:angry:


Man that uptempo shit didn't get you past Lebron but damn you damn sure was scraping the finish line either. I must say that was very disappointing. Indy was must watch, that old school hi/lo was a joy to watch. Memphis does it and I enjoy that shit, I don't care for this 34 3's a night shit. Philly pissing me off to, they could've established that but decided to go a different route.
The bucks kinda play this way with they're second unit once Greg Monroe checks in.

But back to topic Bird looking real suspect at the moment
 
Kevin Love, out since Feb. 14 knee surgery, to start for Cavs on Thursday
CLEVELAND -- Kevin Love will make an earlier-than-expected return to the Cavaliers.

The All-Star forward will start Thursday night against the Utah Jazz, with the team making the announcement a day after general manager David Griffin had said Love likely would be back on the Cavs' upcoming four-game road trip.

On Feb. 14, Love underwent arthroscopic surgery to have a loose body removed from his left knee. He was expected to miss six weeks.

Clippers on Saturday and the Lakers on Sunday.

Cleveland went just 7-6 in the 13 games Love missed. Lue said his contributions -- 20 points, 11.1 rebounds and 1.9 assists per game -- will be welcome. And not just the stats, but the manner by which Love goes about getting them.

"Well, his defensive rebounding for one," Lue said of what Love will bring to the Cavs, who were outboarded 12.0 to 7.2 offensively per game while he was sidelined. "The second thing is, just when we get those leads and we're getting jump-shot happy, we're able to throw the ball into the post and slow the game down. Either he's going to score or get to the free throw line. That's what was good for us before.

'When LeBron [James] goes out of the game, him and Kyrie [Irving] are kind of working that two-man game. That's what we missed the most, just slowing the game down, posting the basketball and either him scoring or getting to the free throw line."

Kyle Korver, meanwhile, will miss his fifth straight game Thursday due to a sore left foot. Lue said the veteran shooter is expected back on the court early in the upcoming road trip, which begins Saturday in L.A.

It's getting there. Just need to adjust to losing 25ppg a night. They'll be better for it once he comes back

So no one is going to say anything about Kyrie leaving because of a knee injury and Shumpert getting his shoulder hurt either huh:hmm:; I guess Cavs are just that good that it dont matter; they do play in the east though so I guess it really dont matter:hmm::giggle:
 
So no one is going to say anything about Kyrie leaving because of a knee injury and Shumpert getting his shoulder hurt either huh:hmm:; I guess Cavs are just that good that it dont matter; they do play in the east though so I guess it really dont matter:hmm::giggle:
Kyrie got injured?
 
So no one is going to say anything about Kyrie leaving because of a knee injury and Shumpert getting his shoulder hurt either huh:hmm:; I guess Cavs are just that good that it dont matter; they do play in the east though so I guess it really dont matter:hmm::giggle:

What the fuck is new? It's like Kyrie and Shump are held together by bobby pins. :smh: Every body part with them...
 
So no one is going to say anything about Kyrie leaving because of a knee injury and Shumpert getting his shoulder hurt either huh:hmm:; I guess Cavs are just that good that it dont matter; they do play in the east though so I guess it really dont matter:hmm::giggle:

Man its march madness time i didn't see any of that to even speak on it lol
 
Man its march madness time i didn't see any of that to even speak on it lol
It was more so geared to the sky is falling crowd who love to think GS is going under; them fuckers lose Kyrie and its a wrap!! Shump well they will miss him but not much; but Kyrie :smh: although I dont think the injury was that bad; but knowing his body, he more than likely will re injure it...
 
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