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largebillsonlyplease said:
he's going to catch a 7 piece special in a few cause people already don't like us and he's just that 1 guy that other teams will feel more than comfortable steeling on
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Funny I thought it was just the opposite.

I remember when Zaza was on the Hawks and exposed Garnett as a fake tough guy in the playoffs...

Zaza has always played an enforcer role. I don't see cats swinging on him in this NBA.
 
playahaitian said:
Steve Kerr 'disappointed' players 'made a mockery' of All-Star voting

MIAMI -- Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr called out players who submitted non-serious All-Star selections on their ballots in their first season of having voting influence in the process, saying they "made a mockery" of the system.

The coach was asked whether he altered his own reserve selections based on which All-Star starters made the cut. Warriors teammates Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry both received starting selections, the latter over the protestations of Oklahoma City fans who wanted Russell Westbrook to make it on account of averaging a triple-double. Kerr said, "Sent my vote in yesterday, didn't alter anything" -- before pivoting.

"I am very disappointed in the players, though," said Kerr, who will coach the Western Conference in the game, before the Warriors lost 105-102 at Miami on Monday night. "I mean, they've asked for a vote, and a lot of them just made a mockery of it."

Of the 324 players who voted, 128 did not vote for LeBron James and 154 did not vote for Kevin Durant, two seemingly obvious frontcourt picks. A large group of voters apparently voted for themselves, based on the number of role players who received one vote.

Kerr continued his thoughts on the disappointment. "So I don't know what the point is. So that was too bad, but all in all, these things are always going to be debatable about who's starting and who gets named. There's always going to be worthy players left out of the starting lineup, left out of the roster entirely. It's the same thing every year and I don't know what the perfect answer is."

When asked to elaborate on the specifics of the mockery, Kerr said, "I saw the list. I saw all the guys who got votes, and I don't know. Are you allowed to vote for yourself? So I don't know, are guys voting for themselves? I mean, there were 50 guys on there who had no business getting votes. So although a lot of people wrote in their buddies for the presidential vote as well, so maybe that's just their own way of making a statement. But I just -- I think if you're going to give the players [the vote], I think they should take it seriously. That's my own thought."

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said he called a staff meeting to get input on the ballot he'll send to the league.


"How is Russell Westbrook not in the starting lineup?'' Spoelstra asked. "I know how it's important to players, and especially guys that are giving their heart and soul and emotions into the game and should be rewarded for it. I do have to admit, in some years past, I would just give it to my assistants. Not anymore.''

Spoelstra said he told Heat center Hassan Whiteside, another All-Star reserve hopeful, that to be picked as an All-Star backup wouldn't be a consolation prize but rather would be a sign of respect.

"Players, they're not all voting. Fans, you have no idea where that's coming from,'' Spoelstra said. "But coaches ... they're paid to figure out who helps teams win, and I think that's the ultimate compliment if you get voted in by coaches. So I'm taking that responsibility a lot more seriously than I have in the past.''

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiU2_6R3NrRAhWCRSYKHcj7BC8QPAgD#hl=en&q=steve+kerr
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real talk?

Kerr is RIGHT about this one.
 
Selfscience said:
"All votes matter"

While I agree with Kerr. You can't give people a voice then tell them how they should voice it whether we agree or not.
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truth

but damn they just sh*tted on the whole process though

after they COMPLAINED about the right to vote for YEARS...

just saying to complain and bitch and moan...

then vote for injured players, themselves, bench players and NOT for KD or Lebron?

How does THAT look though?

So you are correct they have the right to vote however, and they also have the right to embarrass themselves.

Cause they did MORE damage and LASTING damage to their credibility because of it.
 
playahaitian said:
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yup

so I don't want hear NO excuses from Zaza or Dramond...

they creating they OWN problem

this is ENTIRELY on THEM and Kerr.
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Most importantly Kerr

He need to tell them BOTH to chill the fuck out

Before the antics cost them big time again

People have said time and time again how the Draymond suspension cost the warriors in the finals and yeah I do agree but guess what? Stop gettin tecs and flagrants all through the season and playoffs(in this instance) and then you won't have to worry about your points being built up to qualify you for a suspension

Just chill the fuck out. And that's on the coach to check them dudes.
 
playahaitian said:
truth

but damn they just sh*tted on the whole process though

after they COMPLAINED about the right to vote for YEARS...

just saying to complain and bitch and moan...

then vote for injured players, themselves, bench players and NOT for KD or Lebron?

How does THAT look though?

So you are correct they have the right to vote however, and they also have the right to embarrass themselves.

Cause they did MORE damage and LASTING damage to their credibility because of it.
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True.

That's the problem of giving people choices. You'd expect people to use some good sense, but then you realize that's highly unlikely.

Give people a choice and you'll realize how quickly they'll fuck it up.
 
850credit said:
Funny I thought it was just the opposite.

I remember when Zaza was on the Hawks and exposed Garnett as a fake tough guy in the playoffs...

Zaza has always played an enforcer role. I don't see cats swinging on him in this NBA.
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aye i could be wrong. and i hope i am. an enforcer is good. i just know he been scrapping forever lol
 
playahaitian said:
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yup

so I don't want hear NO excuses from Zaza or Dramond...

they creating they OWN problem

this is ENTIRELY on THEM and Kerr.
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LMAO
what problem?
Man you sure do hold a candle to the feet of the warriors trying to create controversy. What's Draymond been doing? Remember when you said his numbers were going to suffer so much?
LOL
 
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D-TOWN REP said:
Most importantly Kerr

He need to tell them BOTH to chill the fuck out

Before the antics cost them big time again

People have said time and time again how the Draymond suspension cost the warriors in the finals and yeah I do agree but guess what? Stop gettin tecs and flagrants all through the season and playoffs(in this instance) and then you won't have to worry about your points being built up to qualify you for a suspension

Just chill the fuck out. And that's on the coach to check them dudes.
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Fam, Draymond hasn't been into anything this year at all. That's old news at this point isn't it?
Zaza been mixing it up but really 90% of it has been overblown and starting with that screen he set that landed him a flagrant foul
 
D-TOWN REP said:
It says what we already knew about them they are losers

Talented losers but still not leading a team anywhere

Neither played a playoff game before they had Lebron as a teammate
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Exactly them niggas were perpetual losers and couldn't carrry their teams for shit before Bron got to Cleveland.. them niggas was stat padding clowns

Folk can say want theily want but at least Bosh and Wade had their own lane and were playoff attenders leading their teams
 
largebillsonlyplease said:
Fam, Draymond hasn't been into anything this year at all. That's old news at this point isn't it?
Zaza been mixing it up but really 90% of it has been overblown and starting with that screen he set that landed him a flagrant foul
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He been better for sure he is on pace for like 7 less technicals than last year

I know he is an emotional player but sometimes I see him doing too much after a play the refs can penalize him to their own discretion obviously you watch more warriors than I do that's just what I gather

Also with Zaza all it's gonna take is once and then damn it could be a brawl somebody gonna get in the mix with him the coach still should tell him to chill
 
Y'all gonna ignore this tho?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18542324/lebron-james-sounds-cleveland-cavaliers-loss

NEW ORLEANS -- LeBron James is growing impatient with the direction the defending champion Cleveland Cavaliers appear to be heading and is calling for the franchise to do something about it.

After the Cavs fell 124-122 to a New Orleans Pelicans team without Anthony Davis on Monday night -- Cleveland's fifth loss in its past seven games -- James unloaded on what he believes is a roster ill equipped, in its current state, to become the last team standing and lift the Larry O'Brien Trophy come June.

"I just hope that we're not satisfied as an organization," James told a small group of beat reporters who travel regularly to cover Cleveland's road games. "I just hope we're not satisfied."

The Cavs broke a 52-year championship drought in Cleveland last season, eliminating a Golden State Warriors team that went an NBA-record 73-9 in the regular season to do so. While Golden State added former MVP Kevin Durant as well as veterans such as David West, Zaza Pachulia and JaVale McGee, and leads the league with a 38-7 record -- including Monday's upset loss to the Miami Heat -- James says the Cavs have regressed.

"We're not better than last year," he said. "From a personnel standpoint."

Cleveland opted against re-signing Matthew Dellavedova and Timofey Mozgov during free agency and waived Dahntay Jones. In their place, the Cavs drafted rookie point guard Kay Felder, acquired Mike Dunleavy (who has since been shipped out in the Kyle Korver deal) and signed Chris "Birdman" Andersen, who went down with a season-ending and potentially career-ending ACL injury.

Meanwhile, James listed other free agents -- Raymond Felton, who signed with the Los Angeles Clippers, and Michael Beasley, who was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks -- as players who could have helped the Cavs make it through the regular season.

"It's great to have bodies," James said. "Obviously, in the playoffs, you go down to what, eight max? And if somebody gets in foul trouble, you go to nine. You're not playing back-to-backs. You have two days in between. You're able to lock in."

He contrasted that with the Cavs' schedule this week, which includes five games from Monday to Monday: at New Orleans, home against Sacramento on Wednesday, home against Brooklyn on Friday, home against Oklahoma City on Sunday and on the road in Dallas on Monday.

"It's like when you don't have bodies. It's tough," James said. "The f---ing grind of the regular season. We're a top-heavy team. We have a top-heavy team. We top-heavy as s---. It's me, [Kyrie Irving], [Kevin Love]. It's top-heavy."

As he has done for several weeks, James continued to bang the drum for a backup point guard or playmaker to be added to the mix to help lessen the load felt by him and Irving in particular. James played 44 minutes against New Orleans, racking up 26 points, 12 assists and 10 rebounds for his fourth triple-double of the season. Irving played 42 minutes and scored a season-high 49 points.

James made it clear that his frustration is not aimed at any one teammate or person in the front office.

"I'm not singling out anybody," James said. "I'm not. Yeah, we won [the championship], but f---, you know what, let's see if we can do something."

He said he has already voiced his thoughts about the roster to general manager David Griffin face-to-face, and realizing how it could look to call for a point guard with Felder and DeAndre Liggins on the roster, James said it would not be fair to expect either of those young players to fill such a significant role on a title-contending team.

"We need a f---ing playmaker," James said. "I'm not saying you can just go find one, like you can go outside and see trees. I didn't say that."

There were several motivating factors in James' sounding off. Mo Williams was expected to retire after last season, leaving Cleveland without a backup point guard. J.R. Smith's thumb injury, which could sideline him for several more months, left Cleveland without one of its most reliable two-way players.

However, the timing of playing both Golden State and the San Antonio Spurs within a week's time seems to have opened James' eyes even more to the disparity in talent between the Cavs and some of their fiercest championship competition.

"They've got bodies," James said of San Antonio when asked about the Spurs' beating the Cavs without Pau Gasol or Tony Parker. "They've got bodies. For the most part, all championship-contending teams has got guys that are ready to step in. Knock on wood, what if Ky goes down? For two weeks. Let's say two. What if I went down for three weeks?"

A reporter responded to James that many wonder how Cleveland would do if James tapered his minutes at the end of the month, as Cavs coach Ty Lue said was the plan -- let alone missed games. The Cavs are 4-18 in the past two and a half seasons in games James sits out.

"Yeah, y'all are worried about five minutes. What if I went down for two weeks?" James said. "Trying to build something, you know?"

Lue was defiant in his postgame remarks, brushing off any concern about the rut the Cavs appear to be in.

"I know what I'm doing, and we're going to be fine," Lue said. "I know what I'm doing. I'm not going to change or not have confidence in what I can do."

James defended Lue for feeling the need to play him and Irving for heavy minutes.

"What else are we going to do?" James said. "You saw the game. Kyrie had to do that. And I tried to mix in my plays. We didn't have no choice. ... We got what we got."

James, in his 14th season, said the urgency in beefing up the Cavs' bench comes from the stage of his career.

"I don't know what we got to offer," James said. "I just know me, personally? I don't got no time to waste. I'll be 33 in the winter, and I ain't got time to waste. That's what I'm talking about.

"Listen, when I feel like physically and mentally, me personally, can't compete for a championship no more or I feel like I can't do it, then I won't have this problem. But until that happens, and it don't seem like no time soon ..."

James trailed off.

An earlier statement by James seemed to sum it all up.

"We got to figure it out," he said. "It's been a s---ty 2017 so far."
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