Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!

Just understand my posture on this GS team. I have a lot of respect for those guys personally. Building through the draft. Performing night in and night out. Save for Durant. I don't like his mentality at times. But I respect his game. He's still a top 5 player. He can come up short when the pressure is on. But he's better than you.

So I'm not going to waste much energy "hating" on the Warriors. Or wishing any type of injuries. I still love the game. And enjoy your chip if y'all get another one.

no worries man. just don't like when 1 is called out and not the other
be ok with them all or none.
 
no worries man. just don't like when 1 is called out and not the other
be ok with them all or none.

Yeah, I guess it comes down to a 'lesser of two evils for me.' And a style of play preference. East Coast/ Midwest basketball. Even though, the Cavs are jacking threes now too.

That whole Durant saga still has me a heated a bit. But it's done with.

Don't lose in the playoffs though, lol. Cavs or the Warriors.
 
Bunk ‏@briantheman
@WojVerticalNBA when was the last time two white dudes were traded straight up?
 
Yeah, I guess it comes down to a 'lesser of two evils for me.' And a style of play preference. East Coast/ Midwest basketball. Even though, the Cavs are jacking threes now too.

That whole Durant saga still has me a heated a bit. But it's done with.

Don't lose in the playoffs though, lol. Cavs or the Warriors.
The eastern conference is making sure they won't beat the cavs.
Fleece Johnson'ing the teams
"I likes ya and I wants ya"
 
Cavs gonna a tough choice to make

Get a vet backup or pay Jordan McRae

Vets that wil he available soon

Jarrett Jack
Norris Cole
Mario Chamlers

Raja Rondo(if released by bulls)
Rondo not getting released; Norris is done :giggle:; Jack coming from acl so not really enthusiastic about him; and Mario coming back from major injury also; scraps bro scraps...
 
Rondo not getting released; Norris is done :giggle:; Jack coming from acl so not really enthusiastic about him; and Mario coming back from major injury also; scraps bro scraps...


How Norris is done when he's the youngest of the group? Cole world and Jack should be cleared next week.
 
Andrew Bogut 'waiting to see what happens' with Mavericks
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DALLAS -- Center Andrew Bogutwould prefer to remain with the Dallas Mavericks for the rest of the season, but he recognizes that a trade is a distinct possibility and "very much highly doubts" that he'll return to the team next season.

"I'm not silly. I've been in this league long enough. I'm an expiring contract," Bogut said Thursday, a day after expressing during an interview with Australia's Sky Sports Radio that heexpected his time in Dallas to be brief. "I haven't asked for a trade, but I know in this league we're 11-24, and I was being honest. There's a chance that I get traded. That turned out into a headline that says 'Bogut wants out,' which is false, but it's just one of the things you have to deal with in this league.

"Like I said, they can obviously get some picks back and build for the future by trading some of the veteran guys, and I could be one of them. Hint and emphasis on 'could.' I'm not saying I've gone to management and asked for a trade, which I haven't. I also haven't gone to management and begged them not to trade me. I'm just waiting to see what happens."

Citing personal reasons, which he did not want to elaborate on, Bogut said he hopes that the Mavs keep him for the remainder of the season. However, he understands that owner Mark Cuban and president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson could decide it's in the franchise's best interest to get a future asset in exchange for a veteran center who has proven to be a championship-caliber complementary piece.

"Do I want to be traded? Look, if there's an opportunity to go somewhere and they want to do it, I'm not going to beg them to not trade me. But I have not gone to the [front] office and asked for a trade."

Andrew Bogut, Mavericks center
Sources have told ESPN that multiple teams have interest in Bogut, who was traded to the Mavs this summer when the Golden State Warriors needed to shed his salary to create room to signKevin Durant.

"Do I want to be traded? Look, if there's an opportunity to go somewhere and they want to do it, I'm not going to beg them to not trade me," Bogut said. "But I have not gone to the [front] office and asked for a trade. That's probably the best answer that I can give you. It's been a tough season for everybody involved, but it's far from the truth that I've gone to management and asked for a trade."


The Mavs moved Bogut, a 12-year veteran who has started his entire career, to the bench this week because the team struggled with him playing next to Dirk Nowitzki. That is not necessarily a sign, however, that the Mavs want to move Bogut to another team.

"He's one of our best players. He's one of our most-productive players," coach Rick Carlisle said. "I have no knowledge of anything having to do with trades, so I can't comment on that. In my conversations with Donnie about it, we've talked about ... re-signing him as a real possibility.

"I'm not sure about any of that kind of stuff, but I know the kind of impact that he has on our team. The fact that he's not starting is really kind of an outlier type situation, but he's extremely productive whether he starts or doesn't start."

Bogut said during his Sky Sports Radio interview that "thankfully" he will be a free agent and will most likely move on after this season. He clarified Thursday that he meant he was thankful to be able to test free agency for the first time in his career -- he signed extensions with the Milwaukee Bucks and Golden State Warriors before hitting the market in the past -- and meant no disrespect to Dallas.

However, Bogut considers it extremely unlikely that he will be a future fit for the Mavs.

"If you're asking me today and I had to put my house on it, I'd say no, just because if there was an opportunity for me to come back, there would have been at least extension talks," Bogut said, "which I'm not bitter about. I'm not mad about it. It's just the reality of it. It's the writing on the wall.

"The Mavs eventually have to start rebuilding, too. There's no point in bringing back a 33-year-old center if you're in rebuild mode. You know, it's been a disappointing year for everybody, myself included. But it's one of those things: I very much highly doubt that I'll be back here next season just because I'm an expiring contract, a free agent, and I just don't see it."

Bogut told ESPN that he would not be interested in negotiating a buyout with the Mavs that would allow him to join a contender.

"If I was going to push for a buyout, I would have done it weeks ago and tried to get on a team and get solidified," he said. "Timing is of the essence. There's only a matter of months left to do that s---. But they obviously need to figure out what they want to do, if they want to rebuild.

"We've still mathematically got a chance to make the playoffs, the eighth seed at least. As long as we keep afloat, I guess we'll keep battling. I mean, the future of what's going to happen here, I don't know where it is now."

 
Why the Cleveland Cavaliers and Kyle Korver are a perfect fit
Kyle Korver was sad to leave the Atlanta Hawks, but even with the news fresh on Thursday, he told reporters that he knew theCleveland Cavaliers would be a "great, great fit for me," via ESPN's Marc Stein. Korver has been a Hawk since 2012, and Atlanta is where he has enjoyed the best years of his career, including the magical 2014-15 season where he made the All-Star team, won 60 games and shot 48.7 percent from the field, 49.2 percent from 3-point range and 89.8 percent from the free throw line -- some of the best shooting the league has ever seen.

It's no wonder Korver was a bit emotional. It's equally unsurprising that he said he'd do well in Cleveland. Korver and the Cavs are perfect for each other. Here are four reasons why:

The Cavs desperately need his shooting

Have you watched Cleveland's last few games? DeAndre Liggins and Jordan McRaehave been starting. This isn't the norm --Kyrie Irving has been out with a hamstring injury -- but it reflects the fact that the Cavs needed more depth on the wing. The Mike Dunleavy experiment didn't work out, andJ.R. Smith is out until mid-March because of thumb surgery. The streaky Iman Shumpertstarted the season hot but has shot 9-for-39 (23.1 percent) in his last 11 games.

If you're building a team around LeBron James, the most important attribute in a complementary player is shooting. James is best when he has space to operate, and Korver's gravity (his ability to pull defenders to him on the perimeter) is as powerful as just about anybody's. I'm still shaking my head at the fact that all Cleveland had to surrender was a first-round pick.

korvy.jpg

With Kyle Korver going to Cleveland, the rich get richer. USATSI
Yet another dangerous weapon

If the Cavs don't run any plays for Korver all season, he'll help just because of his presence. Opposing teams fear him no matter where he is on the court, and that will automatically make his teammates better. He is more than just a superior version of J.R. Smith, though -- under Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer, he has done things that even other pure shooters don't do.

Korver is a master at using screens. He can shoot off the dribble and hit floaters in traffic. He's a solid screener, a heady passer and a deadly decoy. He'd be an even better fit in theGolden State Warriors' movement-oriented offense, but Cleveland coach Tyrone Lue will surely find creative ways to use him. Which brings us to...

A different kind of death lineup

It's almost unfair that Lue can roll out a lineup of Irving, Korver, James, Love and Frye. James, Love and Irving are obviously three of the best offensive players on the planet, andKorver was described in a Grantland story by Zach Lowe as "an offense unto himself."ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported Thursdaythat the Cavs tried to get both Korver and Frye to support James all the way back in 2008, and that was before they broke out.

This five-man unit might be challenged defensively, but it should be able to score so easily that it almost never matters. Imagine James grabbing a rebound and pushing the ball with all of those guys sprinting to the 3-point line, or Love firing an outlet pass to Korver, who is always ready to shoot. The defending champs are now even scarier than they were on the way to last year's title.

Korver will shoot better with LeBron

Frye is shooting a career-high 46.5 percent from 3-point range this season, and that's not some kind of crazy coincidence. He found his chemistry with James during the playoffs last year -- he made 56.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason -- and he's been rolling ever since. If anyone can tell Korver about the LeBron effect, it's him.

Much has been made of Korver losing a step over the last couple of seasons. He looks slower, his shooting has regressed from holy s--! to wow! and, well, he's 35 years old. Still, he has a 60.8 percent effective field percentage on catch-and-shoot attempts and is making 49 percent of his wide-open 3-pointers this season, per NBA.com. Translation: you can't leave him open, and James will be constantly looking to set him up for 3-pointers the same way he did with Ray Allen years ago.
 
How Norris is done when he's the youngest of the group? Cole world and Jack should be cleared next week.
where is Norris at right now??? And regardless if Cole and Jack are cleared, they are coming back from major injuries; wont be the same player; and it takes years for some athletes to recover from the injuries that they suffered...
 
where is Norris at right now??? And regardless if Cole and Jack are cleared, they are coming back from major injuries; wont be the same player; and it takes years for some athletes to recover from the injuries that they suffered...
Ok, I'm still wondering how Cole is done?
 
Why the Cleveland Cavaliers and Kyle Korver are a perfect fit
Kyle Korver was sad to leave the Atlanta Hawks, but even with the news fresh on Thursday, he told reporters that he knew theCleveland Cavaliers would be a "great, great fit for me," via ESPN's Marc Stein. Korver has been a Hawk since 2012, and Atlanta is where he has enjoyed the best years of his career, including the magical 2014-15 season where he made the All-Star team, won 60 games and shot 48.7 percent from the field, 49.2 percent from 3-point range and 89.8 percent from the free throw line -- some of the best shooting the league has ever seen.

It's no wonder Korver was a bit emotional. It's equally unsurprising that he said he'd do well in Cleveland. Korver and the Cavs are perfect for each other. Here are four reasons why:

The Cavs desperately need his shooting

Have you watched Cleveland's last few games? DeAndre Liggins and Jordan McRaehave been starting. This isn't the norm --Kyrie Irving has been out with a hamstring injury -- but it reflects the fact that the Cavs needed more depth on the wing. The Mike Dunleavy experiment didn't work out, andJ.R. Smith is out until mid-March because of thumb surgery. The streaky Iman Shumpertstarted the season hot but has shot 9-for-39 (23.1 percent) in his last 11 games.

If you're building a team around LeBron James, the most important attribute in a complementary player is shooting. James is best when he has space to operate, and Korver's gravity (his ability to pull defenders to him on the perimeter) is as powerful as just about anybody's. I'm still shaking my head at the fact that all Cleveland had to surrender was a first-round pick.

korvy.jpg

With Kyle Korver going to Cleveland, the rich get richer. USATSI
Yet another dangerous weapon

If the Cavs don't run any plays for Korver all season, he'll help just because of his presence. Opposing teams fear him no matter where he is on the court, and that will automatically make his teammates better. He is more than just a superior version of J.R. Smith, though -- under Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer, he has done things that even other pure shooters don't do.

Korver is a master at using screens. He can shoot off the dribble and hit floaters in traffic. He's a solid screener, a heady passer and a deadly decoy. He'd be an even better fit in theGolden State Warriors' movement-oriented offense, but Cleveland coach Tyrone Lue will surely find creative ways to use him. Which brings us to...

A different kind of death lineup

It's almost unfair that Lue can roll out a lineup of Irving, Korver, James, Love and Frye. James, Love and Irving are obviously three of the best offensive players on the planet, andKorver was described in a Grantland story by Zach Lowe as "an offense unto himself."ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported Thursdaythat the Cavs tried to get both Korver and Frye to support James all the way back in 2008, and that was before they broke out.

This five-man unit might be challenged defensively, but it should be able to score so easily that it almost never matters. Imagine James grabbing a rebound and pushing the ball with all of those guys sprinting to the 3-point line, or Love firing an outlet pass to Korver, who is always ready to shoot. The defending champs are now even scarier than they were on the way to last year's title.

Korver will shoot better with LeBron

Frye is shooting a career-high 46.5 percent from 3-point range this season, and that's not some kind of crazy coincidence. He found his chemistry with James during the playoffs last year -- he made 56.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason -- and he's been rolling ever since. If anyone can tell Korver about the LeBron effect, it's him.

Much has been made of Korver losing a step over the last couple of seasons. He looks slower, his shooting has regressed from holy s--! to wow! and, well, he's 35 years old. Still, he has a 60.8 percent effective field percentage on catch-and-shoot attempts and is making 49 percent of his wide-open 3-pointers this season, per NBA.com. Translation: you can't leave him open, and James will be constantly looking to set him up for 3-pointers the same way he did with Ray Allen years ago.
If im GS; I would be praying every night, to any god thats out there, that Lue plays a lineup of Irving, Korver, James, Love and Frye...:lol::lol:; Man that lineup aint scaring no top level team....
 
no worries man. just don't like when 1 is called out and not the other
be ok with them all or none.
you know how it is bro; aint no one saying shit about LBJ joining/creating super teams twice; nobody said shit with LA join the spurs either; but KD is the evil villain because he did it; shit is retarded; and you will have dudes come in here swear shit is different though...
 


Oh so you can post this but when I posted Gallo REVERSED DUNKING on somebody, y'all want to act like y'all didn't see that. It's cool. We coming for that 8th spot. We about to beat the Warriors ass in the 1st round. Nuggets-Sonics all over again.
 
you know how it is bro; aint no one saying shit about LBJ joining/creating super teams twice; nobody said shit with LA join the spurs either; but KD is the evil villain because he did it; shit is retarded; and you will have dudes come in here swear shit is different though...
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If im GS; I would be praying every night, to any god thats out there, that Lue plays a lineup of Irving, Korver, James, Love and Frye...:lol::lol:; Man that lineup aint scaring no top level team....


Man why you talking crazy, you ass know damn well Shum, Jefferson, Lebron, Irving, TT & Jr close out the games against the dubs.
 
Hawks emotional in reacting to Korver trade
NEW ORLEANS
Kyle Korver will be missed.

It showed in the Hawks locker room.

The Hawks are finalizing a trade that will send the sharp-shooting guard to the Cavaliers. Korver was told of the impending move just before the Hawks played the Pelicans Thursday night. His four-plus year run in Atlanta, where he was part of sweeping changes in the Hawks organization, now over.

“There are definitely mixed emotions,” Korver said after the game. “There are a lot of hard ties to Atlanta, for a lot of reasons. A lot of friendships, relationships. This is where I had my best basketball career, honestly. This is where I had all my kids. It’s hard to leave that behind. Obviously, it’s a great opportunity for me in Cleveland. So I’m very excited about that part of it. There are a lot of relationships that I care a lot for here and that I’m going to miss.”

It was emotional when the team was officially told following the game.

“It’s tough,” said Paul Millsap, who also played with Korver in Utah. Kyle was a big reason I am here. To see him not in the locker room, it’s tough for me personally.

“Kyle means so much to this team, to this organization, so much to our community. To see him go, it will be felt. His presence in the locker room, his presence in the community, it will be felt. It’s tough to see him go.”

Korver noted some of the highlights of his time in Atlanta, memories he thought about as he watched his final game in a Hawks uniform from the bench. He has seen a new ownership group, a new coaching staff and even a new logo. He was one of four Hawks players to make the All-Star team in 2015 during a 60-win season that culminated in a trip to the Eastern Conference finals for the first time in the organization’s history.

“I thought about a lot of things,” Korver said.

Kent Bazemore was another player especially close to Korver. Although he will miss what Korver brought to the Hawks on the court, it’s the time they spent off the court that mattered.

“This business man,” Bazemore said. “It’s cutthroat and it doesn’t really care about personal relationships or the impact people have in your life.

“Kyle is one of the most amazing people you’ll ever meet, the most amazing teammate you’ll ever meet. Always positive. He’s just a professional the way he approaches the game. Just that aspect alone, I learned a lot from. How to take care of your body. Faith-based man. Loves his family. Checks all the boxes. He’s one of those people that you need around you on a daily basis to keep you on the straight and narrow. When I first proposed to my now fiancee, we had long talks about that and kids, treating them right, how to be a good husband and father. Those are the conversations that you can’t put on the stat sheet. He’s just an amazing person.”
 
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