Ya man Gus about to spank the shit out them white boys...I was hoping Skyler got sniped when she went out for that smoke...seriously
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Ya man Gus about to spank the shit out them white boys...I was hoping Skyler got sniped when she went out for that smoke...seriously
what I want to know is when does that black henchman sleep, dude is always at the lab and he is always parked at someone house watching
Yo, I was just thinking the same thing. These MFers are NEVER off the clock.
You see how the black cat smooth strolled away when Jesse tried to call attention to him in the Hospital. It was like "You don't see me, I don't even exist (oh and don't fuck with me either)"
Ya the black dude is cool as fuck
^^^what he said. On top of that I think Gus has Jesse's house bugged. Hell, remember when Jesse had all the meth heads crashing at his pad. Remember that meth head stole the bag of money and Mike returns it by waking Jesse up in his own bed to confront his thief. They (Gus folks) been watching EVERYBODY so what was to keep Gus from having Mike bug Jesse's crib, especially with such easy access during that time ?? You know stay Gus 5 steps ahead.
Agreed, He knows something is up, but figuring out the car is to unbelievable, even for Gus.
That dude has the easiest acting job in Hollywood – stand still, lurk and look menacing.
Ninja must have identical twins to be everywhere at once, or the town they live in is mad small so he can drive everywhere that quickly.
peace
That's homeboy's 'JOB", not to kick it, comfort, befreind & placate the workers {like he could have when Him & Jesse were waiting for Hank's partner to finish his Due Dilligence} nor step out of line all emo like the last kat who remains are in a vat who knows where.
Just Be There & Exact the Justice when its needed.
Just a spoke in the wheel like Lefty said in DonnieBrasco, along with Mike.
& whomever, Stop thinking Mike's some sort of IndepContractor or his own boss just because he gives or shares with the audience some sense of a personality; he's just a head good that can, will & may get left where Gus chooses, bottom line.
He dont have say in shit unless that's requested of him!
That's HIS 'job'
Remember this now
I don't doubt this Twin.
Thereinlies the key between Jesse & Gus' Lieutenant.
Plus, like Camel once said on StreetsIsWatching compilation, its "moeny well spent" & Gus has ALOT of it so he aint FUCKING around with these fucking lil civilians, wanna be drug pushers & the like of ANYTHING that may get in his way from surviving as long as he has & has to since day 1.
Y'all know I WANTED for them to make it easy, as u see Gus walking, u see that reflection of glass of the binoculars, giving Walt's position away.
But that was an uncommon request for Gus, coming way out of position for something 'unexpected' (who knows exactly ow until we see how it plays out & how it was constructed) so his lil spidey senses definitely kicked in.
Gus isnt & wont be ambushed by anything he allows himself to overlook; he knows everytime Walt gets in that car with his bro in law; he knows when somebody's watching, acting out of character & being anywhere on his premisses when they arent supposed to.
He's the CEO of that whole brainchild.
Anything out of place has been accounted for.
Guppies aint fucking with no Whale
Gus has killed more kats in one day plus escaped death b4 in getting into this country more than Walt & jesse combined amongst two life times, dont get it twisted.
Does Walter truly think he can get to Gus' property without Gus knowing so ever?
The WORD was that the brotha Goon Lieutinenant said to Wally was {after he asked if the sheets HAD to be dirty when he was smuggled into the plant's facilities not knowing who was watching, holmes said} that they COULD be clean
Between that & them abrupt creeping & cattle prodding, I was.
Walt keeps acting like he's smarter than Gus sense to be secure & suspicious of this White priveledged arrogant fuck who thinks he's got something to do with something & is smarter than him
These factors are what earned him those beats, prods & cold attitidudes from goons sent to do their job watching the loose cannon.
Am also sure they were watching the crib b4 & during & after the DEA boys came to swoop up the family but Gus aint trying to draw any attention to get the situation any hotter than it needs to be outside of the paranoia Walt & the ambulance chaser may have nervously.
& in terms of making lemonade out of lemons, possible but Walt's dumb ass should have BEEN confided humbly with Jesse so he can get on the same page as they did in the last ep; if he did, he may have found out how solid Jesse made his point be felt & known, on the phone, walking those 6miles & @ Gus' house when he first was there to poison gus (which he probably saw some how or sensed).
The loyalty's engrained & doesnt have to be even worried about from Walt's perspective but Jesse never talks about that so old nervous Wally isnt inclined to assume its there.
They needed to take a ride together with only Jesse coming back so Gus & them could go on thinking that Jesse killed Walt with Walt relocating somewhere else; but with Gus' $ & Walt's nervous ass, he probably be living like the real character in GoodFellas, HenryHill who developed high blood pressure & all types of ailments from THINKING the mob was coming to get his ass yet never did
What got me extra pissed in this ep is that Skylar STILL cant play her position as Walt specifically asked her to hold him down & be that Gangsta Wife she always wanted to be - the shit had me yelling @ the fucking screen because she still comes off as the 'bad guy' with Walt jr as she didnt say shit in defense of the united front of hers & Walts on the subject of why he wasnt @ Hank's house.
NOR did she com up with creative ways to try & distract Hank from go all in towards investigating what's happening @ the laundrymat; her face showed shock & concern as she senses Hank gaining momentum but her dumb ass mouth couldnt produce any obvious common sense objections; yeah it would be suspicious of her to try & thwart that @ the moment but say SOMETHING, change the sibject or paniac & act like your wanting to call Walt, SOME SHIT DAMN WTF instead of just
He SPECIFICALLY asked her to hold him down & that she;d think of SOMETHING to the point of having to yell @ her to smack her out of her fairy taale world on how real shit is;
Fuck al the concern & loving caring, lets-have-a/this-one-last-tender-moment shit, do like the Irish homegirl on BoardwalkEmpire & STEP THE FUCK UP UP during those times faced with adversity as she did in the faces of her worrysome staff, @ the office when investigators crawling all around & to her man when he needed her by the fireplace to be strong by burning them ledgers & pulling his coat with some Wisdom of how to attack the game with the strength she knows he has deep inside!
peace
That's homeboy's 'JOB", not to kick it, comfort, befreind & placate the workers {like he could have when Him & Jesse were waiting for Hank's partner to finish his Due Dilligence} nor step out of line all emo like the last kat who remains are in a vat who knows where.
Just Be There & Exact the Justice when its needed.
Just a spoke in the wheel like Lefty said in DonnieBrasco, along with Mike.
& whomever, Stop thinking Mike's some sort of IndepContractor or his own boss just because he gives or shares with the audience some sense of a personality; he's just a head good that can, will & may get left where Gus chooses, bottom line.
He dont have say in shit unless that's requested of him!
That's HIS 'job'
Remember this now
I don't doubt this Twin.
Ya the black dude is cool as fuck
Thereinlies the key between Jesse & Gus' Lieutenant.
Plus, like Camel once said on StreetsIsWatching compilation, its "moeny well spent" & Gus has ALOT of it so he aint FUCKING around with these fucking lil civilians, wanna be drug pushers & the like of ANYTHING that may get in his way from surviving as long as he has & has to since day 1.
Y'all know I WANTED for them to make it easy, as u see Gus walking, u see that reflection of glass of the binoculars, giving Walt's position away.
But that was an uncommon request for Gus, coming way out of position for something 'unexpected' (who knows exactly ow until we see how it plays out & how it was constructed) so his lil spidey senses definitely kicked in.
Gus isnt & wont be ambushed by anything he allows himself to overlook; he knows everytime Walt gets in that car with his bro in law; he knows when somebody's watching, acting out of character & being anywhere on his premisses when they arent supposed to.
He's the CEO of that whole brainchild.
Anything out of place has been accounted for.
Guppies aint fucking with no Whale
Gus has killed more kats in one day plus escaped death b4 in getting into this country more than Walt & jesse combined amongst two life times, dont get it twisted.
Does Walter truly think he can get to Gus' property without Gus knowing so ever?
The WORD was that the brotha Goon Lieutinenant said to Wally was {after he asked if the sheets HAD to be dirty when he was smuggled into the plant's facilities not knowing who was watching, holmes said} that they COULD be clean
Between that & them abrupt creeping & cattle prodding, I was
.Walt keeps acting like he's smarter than Gus sense to be secure & suspicious of this White priveledged arrogant fuck who thinks he's got something to do with something & is smarter than him
These factors are what earned him those beats, prods & cold attitidudes from goons sent to do their job watching the loose cannon.
Am also sure they were watching the crib b4 & during & after the DEA boys came to swoop up the family but Gus aint trying to draw any attention to get the situation any hotter than it needs to be outside of the paranoia Walt & the ambulance chaser may have nervously.
& in terms of making lemonade out of lemons, possible but Walt's dumb ass should have BEEN confided humbly with Jesse so he can get on the same page as they did in the last ep; if he did, he may have found out how solid Jesse made his point be felt & known, on the phone, walking those 6miles & @ Gus' house when he first was there to poison gus (which he probably saw some how or sensed).
The loyalty's engrained & doesnt have to be even worried about from Walt's perspective but Jesse never talks about that so old nervous Wally isnt inclined to assume its there.
They needed to take a ride together with only Jesse coming back so Gus & them could go on thinking that Jesse killed Walt with Walt relocating somewhere else; but with Gus' $ & Walt's nervous ass, he probably be living like the real character in GoodFellas, HenryHill who developed high blood pressure & all types of ailments from THINKING the mob was coming to get his ass yet never did
What got me extra pissed in this ep is that Skylar STILL cant play her position as Walt specifically asked her to hold him down & be that Gangsta Wife she always wanted to be - the shit had me yelling @ the fucking screen because she still comes off as the 'bad guy' with Walt jr as she didnt say shit in defense of the united front of hers & Walts on the subject of why he wasnt @ Hank's house.
NOR did she com up with creative ways to try & distract Hank from go all in towards investigating what's happening @ the laundrymat; her face showed shock & concern as she senses Hank gaining momentum but her dumb ass mouth couldnt produce any obvious common sense objections; yeah it would be suspicious of her to try & thwart that @ the moment but say SOMETHING, change the sibject or paniac & act like your wanting to call Walt, SOME SHIT DAMN WTF
instead of justHe SPECIFICALLY asked her to hold him down & that she;d think of SOMETHING to the point of having to yell @ her to smack her out of her fairy taale world on how real shit is;
Fuck al the concern & loving caring, lets-have-a/this-one-last-tender-moment shit, do like the Irish homegirl on BoardwalkEmpire & STEP THE FUCK UP UP during those times faced with adversity as she did in the faces of her worrysome staff, @ the office when investigators crawling all around & to her man when he needed her by the fireplace to be strong by burning them ledgers & pulling his coat with some Wisdom of how to attack the game with the strength she knows he has deep inside!
peace
Gus killed Victor in season 4, episode 1 to send a message. Victor was easily expendable. He fucked up by showing his face at the scene of the crime (with witnesses around after the shooting took place). He also showed his vehicle at the scene of the crime after Jesse shot Gale. Also, he isn't knowledgeable in the art of cooking the blue. Walt is a chemistry teacher by trade. He taught Jesse all he knows. Jesse is 2nd in command. Victor was simply one of Gus' paid men (similar to Mike, but lower in rank) who knew a little bit about cooking after watching them and trying his hand at it. He wasn't ever gonna be cooking up batches of 96 and 98% pure Hillbilly Heroin, and was NEVER a part of the Teacher/Student dynamic that White/Pinkman have had dating back to season 1 (2008). Not even close. His shit would have been 2nd rate / standard crap like so many others out there in the worldly drug game, fam'.
My take was when he talked with Jesse in the basement of the hospital ... he realized that Jesse/Walt were conspiring to kill him. The mention of the boy getting POISONED. That sent off alarm bells in Gus' head. Either the boy was playing around with Jesse's pack of cigarettes and accidentally took the one laced with Rysen, or Gus got to the kid first (to try and further divide the wedge between Walt/Jesse from recent episodes). Either way ... Gus had a feeling when Jesse mentioned the kid being poisoned that Pinkman/White are after him, and he'd better get his Spidey sense(s) in check and shit. Hence walking towards his Volvo in the parkade, and then looking across at the other building across the way to see if Walter or someone else was setting him the fuck up, or had fucked with his car already. He isn't sure at this moment just how divided both Teacher & Student are. Are they still plotting to kill him? Or are they going about it separately (seeing as though they are pissed the fuck off at one another, Pinkman and White)?
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Sunday, October 9th = Season 4, Episode 13. Season finale.
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Breaking Bad was originally pegged for a 13-episode final season (5th season). They have chosen to give us 16 episodes over 2 abbreviated seasons (8 episodes / 8 episodes). So keep an eye out for 2012, or 2012/2013. No word on when they'll premiere. Remember - the series started back in February 2008. Season 2 ran in 2009. Season 3 wrapped in June 2010. Season 4 commenced in mid-July 2011.
It wasn't just the message
Remember when Gus went to the police station and saw the pic of Victor up, then he found out some neighbors saw him.
The WORD was that the brotha Goon Lieutinenant said to Wally was {after he asked if the sheets HAD to be dirty when he was smuggled into the plant's facilities not knowing who was watching, holmes said} that they COULD be clean
Ya that was it!
Walter said did the sheets have to be dirty and dude said 'nope' Hey man you said some other real shit uptop...ya analysis/observations of the show is crazy...I didn't even peep this
I was disappointed too but on another note bborn's explanation of what made Gus stop in his tracks makes perfect sense...I really don't think Gus planted the poison or w/e...I think Jesse honestly fucked up and then used it to get Walter on his side...Idk...but if it's 1 thing Jesse showed this season it's that he's not as manipulable as ppl think he is...this is just a wild guess tho...I really can't call it...then again part of me is inclined to believe Gus did it too based on that phonecall he had w/ Jesse when Jesse still refused to greenlight Walter and then Gus said some shit about alternative measures or some shit then hung up
Isn't it purely speculative that Gus poisoned the kid? Jesse's a stressed-out addict who may have simply mad a mistake and left his pack of cigarettes at ole gurl's crib. Gus may have had nothing to do with the kid smoking the cig and getting poisoned.
Ya that was it!
That scene was classic
Little shit like that gets me
.... Oh I agree last years season finale and the entire Tuco escapade proved that but there was talk about Walt being a pussy in this thread earlier that i wanted to counter with that scene.
Also I will be honest I want them to explain how Gus knew something was wrong and why he decided he didn't want to get into his car. The obvious line is that the convo with pinkman made his weary but i just want a confirmation.
On the other side seeing tyrus with the syringe makes me think that yeah he was involved with the poisoning of the kid. and I'm gonna call it they're gonna blow the lab up and some of hanks people are going to be in it.
I am not sure Gus is gonna die because I can't see any character who can replace him unless the focus goes on Walt and jesse vs the police or the two of them going over the border and how long can they keep that up honestly.
Mike missing from all this is foreboding though to some goon fucking up and being the reason that walt and jesse win because Mike doesn't make mistakes.
Great point. Yes ... he couldn't let some punk like Victor fuck things up. Had they caught onto Victor more thoroughly ... more than just Hank would be onto Gus / Los Pollos, etc. That could fuck everything up for Gus / cartel / Los Pollos / Walt / Jesse / everyone. He basically offed Victor as soon as possible. Mistakes like his could prove far too costly for too many people involved.
Anybody ever think that maybe Gus had one of his goons watching his vehicle while he went into the hospital? Doesn't sound far fetched for someone that always covers their bases. Somebody could've been watching from another roof and communicated via bluetooth or something to them.
As someone who wears glasses occasionally when I don't want to wear contacts, I've never had shit reflect off my glasses. Dude must be getting his glasses from Family Dollar.
And I don't think Walt is pussy, but he's not a tough guy either. You can't really judge him based off what he did in the past, because dude thought he was going to die from cancer.
Notice how they flipped it, people thought he was going to become Gus, but instead he's become Jesse. That coincided with the baby being born and his cancer going to remission. I think this is Walt's true persona. Just like now he's more hardcore, because he's in defensive mode and his families in danger.
And I don't think Walt is pussy, but he's not a tough guy either. You can't really judge him based off what he did in the past, because dude thought he was going to die from cancer.
Notice how they flipped it, people thought he was going to become Gus, but instead he's become Jesse. That coincided with the baby being born and his cancer going to remission. I think this is Walt's true persona. Just like now he's more hardcore, because he's in defensive mode and his families in danger.
It's not just glasses...but in school all the time I always had smart alec kids use their watches to reflect light directly to my eyes and you KNOW when it's being done and it's very easy to find out which direction it came from...I'll have to rewatch the scene but I think it's very plausible that Walt's binoculars reflected enough to hit Gus' eyesight/glasses and give him the heads up someone was out there and that's why he went so far as to even look out there and make a "show" of it like I'm on to the shit
Man am I tripping or is there a plot hole here? Why did Jesse think Walt had something to do with poisoning that kid? Why would Walt do that shit to begin with? And how in the hell did Gus even know about that shit? Seems like they're starting to stretch shit.
Ya after the discussions we've had in here...this is the only thing that doesn't make sense to me...I still think Jesse was scheming on Walt tho to get Walt to help him kill Gus...I just think Jesse fucked up and left the pack around the kid but used the negative opportunity to get Walt back on his side
but yo I was seriously pissed @ Walt for getting up and leaving the gun there after Jesse kicked his ass not too long ago...the only other thing I can think of and I really don't wanna go there is that maybe Walt did do it to get Jesse back on his side knowing that Jesse would figure out it was poison in time to save the kid's life 
Walt could definitely have did it...he may have poisoned the kid with something other than ricin to make Jesse think that Gus did it...the gun does point at the flower when he is spinning it...that may have been what Walt used for poison....
Huell may have taken the cigs from Jesse to throw Jesse off
I don't think Walt did it for sure, but its a definite possiblity
Huell may have taken the cigs from Jesse to throw Jesse off
I don't think Walt did it for sure, but its a definite possiblity
Ya after the discussions we've had in here...this is the only thing that doesn't make sense to me...I still think Jesse was scheming on Walt tho to get Walt to help him kill Gus...I just think Jesse fucked up and left the pack around the kid but used the negative opportunity to get Walt back on his side
I could see Walt being behind it after reading this post. Makes a little more sense coming from that perspective. But it still does seem like a stretch. But then you go back to when Walt pretty much watched Jesse's ex-girl choke to death. I don't think Walt has it in him to kill a kid but he's desperate. He's willing to do anything to save his family. But doing that would be inconsistent with the shows direction. The show usually doesn't hide shit like that from the viewer. If it was being consistent with the show it would've showed Walt poison the kid and lie to Jesse and say it was Gus.
I hope the clear some shit up in this next episode cause this shit was confusing. I rode with it until that nigga, Gus, pulled some Lex Luther type shit at the end. Dude is so far ahead that it's like reading people's minds... No one is that good. In fact, it would have made more sense to me... if the bomb hadn't worked right away and Gus was able to get out the car before the bomb did go off... something like Casino. I was also thrown off by how in one short conversation, Walt planted a bomb and got to the roof top a good few blocks away unless he is Nightcrawler now.
As far as Jesse is concerned... You never know how stable Jesse is or how good his memory might be, but I can imagine if he is at fault is some way... he would feel so bad that his minds might play trick on him and have him trying to push that blame any where else. I get dude has been getting his shit together for the passed 5-6 episodes, but he has a long history of irrational behavior.
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Wasn't there.
& if they do 'insert it', that's part of the rmx they dropped to support their point.
What they DID show to support why there wasnt any glare was
a)show the orange/magenta color hue on the face of the binoculars {which may or may not be glare resistant like some glasses are made nowadays &
b)show Gss train of vision NOT locked directly to Walt's rooftop nor any place in particular, just out there while @ the same time on himself, doing shit out of normal for his daily monotony.
Gus has been scoped & shot @ b4, probably on much more than one occasion.
Some people get a feeling, knowing when somebody's not just looking but watching them even though that may be a reach for some to swallow.
WHen Gus aint talking, he's thinking of details so as someone mntioned, the convo, flow of it & awareness or maybe lack of deciphering what Jesse was trying to say/saying to him may have led him towards a more secure, unpredictable path he feels he needs to take @ that moment (in honor of Kyeser Soze [where he played the fed officer chasing him] as I truly believe all the sick bosses, gangstas & flicks he's been involved with doing a thorough job helped earn him this part but that's just me).
They STILL didnt nor have explained why Tuco's cousins or brothers/Victor's nephews/the hitmen were crawling the way they were in Mexico along with a few more minor plot twist that have gone the way they needed as it may not be as important to the big picture. Im sure if we research, we can find it but Im saying.
I think the point was that Gus outsmarted Walt once again & Gus cant clear his plate without getting a go ahead from Jesse no matter what he does to either one of them.
Walt's still not thinking very boss-like & that Cancer in him ignighted his Fight or Flight mechanism much more effectively but against dumber opposition.
& @ the shook laundry manager too sweaty palmed to try & call the next supervisor other than the one out of town to get permission nor even got a card from Hank's partner for his cooperation. Gus likes shit cool & very 'civivilian-ized'
He's looking shook plus guilty as fuck for the front so whatever happens to him is on him even though is role is background noise to what's really happening.
peace
Wasn't there.
& if they do 'insert it', that's part of the rmx they dropped to support their point.
What they DID show to support why there wasnt any glare was
a)show the orange/magenta color hue on the face of the binoculars {which may or may not be glare resistant like some glasses are made nowadays &
b)show Gss train of vision NOT locked directly to Walt's rooftop nor any place in particular, just out there while @ the same time on himself, doing shit out of normal for his daily monotony.
Gus has been scoped & shot @ b4, probably on much more than one occasion.
Some people get a feeling, knowing when somebody's not just looking but watching them even though that may be a reach for some to swallow.
WHen Gus aint talking, he's thinking of details so as someone mntioned, the convo, flow of it & awareness or maybe lack of deciphering what Jesse was trying to say/saying to him may have led him towards a more secure, unpredictable path he feels he needs to take @ that moment (in honor of Kyeser Soze [where he played the fed officer chasing him] as I truly believe all the sick bosses, gangstas & flicks he's been involved with doing a thorough job helped earn him this part but that's just me).
They STILL didnt nor have explained why Tuco's cousins or brothers/Victor's nephews/the hitmen were crawling the way they were in Mexico along with a few more minor plot twist that have gone the way they needed as it may not be as important to the big picture. Im sure if we research, we can find it but Im saying.
I think the point was that Gus outsmarted Walt once again & Gus cant clear his plate without getting a go ahead from Jesse no matter what he does to either one of them.
Walt's still not thinking very boss-like & that Cancer in him ignighted his Fight or Flight mechanism much more effectively but against dumber opposition.
&
@ the shook laundry manager too sweaty palmed to try & call the next supervisor other than the one out of town to get permission nor even got a card from Hank's partner for his cooperation. Gus likes shit cool & very 'civivilian-ized'He's looking shook plus guilty as fuck for the front so whatever happens to him is on him even though is role is background noise to what's really happening.
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Plus, Mr. Disappear wanted a cool mil in cash on top of all of those bills.
Poisoning was an accident and is all Jesse's fault. Just the chickens coming home to roost after Jesse got fly with the Counselor and called him out for accidentally killing his own child.
Jesse wants to THINK that it was Walt so he won't have to deal with the reality of killing his "child".
He stood up against Gus the very first time for a child getting hurt, the counsleor incident and now the cig accident. Once the child dies, Jesse will truly accept that he is the "bad guy" and will become Walt's.....Mike.
There's so many angles man...I'm positive tho that either Walt Jesse or Gus did it
It sure as fuck wasn't Saul Goodman or Ted.
In a foreboding scene earlier in the episode, Walt sits around his pool spinning his gun. As he spins it, twice the gun points at at him. But on the third spin, it points outward and Walt has this look of determination on his face. At this point the question has to be asked: Did Walt poison Brock? Not only did Walt disappear after the pool scene in the morning, no one could reach him all day. Why wasn’t he picking up the phone when it was people he knew? Especially Jesse, who at this point was his last hope. Wouldn’t it make more sense for Gus to act the way he did at the hospital, if he had no idea what happened to Brock? He would be in a state of confusion and anger as to why Jesse was not showing up to work. If Gus did, in fact poison Brock, he would have expected to have to show up at the hospital, and wouldn’t really feel all that suspicious walking back to his car. Of course, this is speculation. There are multiple things to counter this, like the fact that Jesse had the cigarette in his pocket in the morning. How and where would Walt have grabbed it? But see, this is why Breaking Bad is so brilliant. The fact that we could even entertain the idea that Walt could do this to Jesse, means all bets are off when it comes to these two men (Gus and Walter) and their fight for survival. If Walt really did pull this off, it would be the smartest—and most vile—thing he has done all season. It would be Walt finally learning the game from Gus, thinking two steps ahead.
So, the question to then ask going into the finale is this: Is Walt just doing what he needs to survive, or did he finally evolve and become like Gus? In the case that it’s the latter, then what a tragedy would it be that both Gus and Walt have used Jesse as a puppet. It would be the ultimate betrayal from Walt, and might just be the thing we needed as an audience to truly believe the man has became evil going into the final season.
“End Times” was internally tense. Compared to last season’s penultimate episode “Half Measure,” this episode focused more on getting the characters in a place where they’re capable of making choices that could change everything. There wasn’t a lot of action, yet it was just as brilliantly executed. The beginning of the season started with a showdown between Walter White and Gustavo Fring, and the end of the season has come full circle. Gus has clearly been beating Walter every step of the way, but with Walt no longer having any other choice but to fight, who knows what he will do to survive. Walt said, “there is no longer prolonging the inevitable,” but we learned long ago that Walt will do whatever he can to try.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2011/10/breaking-bad-review---end-times-episode-412.html
Did a google search and found this
Interesting take
So, the question to then ask going into the finale is this: Is Walt just doing what he needs to survive, or did he finally evolve and become like Gus? In the case that it’s the latter, then what a tragedy would it be that both Gus and Walt have used Jesse as a puppet. It would be the ultimate betrayal from Walt, and might just be the thing we needed as an audience to truly believe the man has became evil going into the final season.
“End Times” was internally tense. Compared to last season’s penultimate episode “Half Measure,” this episode focused more on getting the characters in a place where they’re capable of making choices that could change everything. There wasn’t a lot of action, yet it was just as brilliantly executed. The beginning of the season started with a showdown between Walter White and Gustavo Fring, and the end of the season has come full circle. Gus has clearly been beating Walter every step of the way, but with Walt no longer having any other choice but to fight, who knows what he will do to survive. Walt said, “there is no longer prolonging the inevitable,” but we learned long ago that Walt will do whatever he can to try.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2011/10/breaking-bad-review---end-times-episode-412.html
Did a google search and found this
Interesting take
Good share, BenQ.
There's so many angles man...I'm positive tho that either Walt Jesse or Gus did it
I know, man, these writers are sick as hell for this
I hope Saul Goodman doesn't leave the show though
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