NYC man gunned down crossing street holding his daughter’s hand
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Talking points straight out of the GOP/police union play book.
Damnn that is what you call an animal
Exactly. That is the PBA & GOP talking point on all crime in NY right now. In these times I need to see proof. If you can show stats to that effect it should be revisited, but right now, all it is is something to scare white voters that the bad brown people are running wild. Maybe if the police were responding to calls and not deliberately NOT doing their jobs then we would have a real conversation.
Who ever did that is a psychopath. They should be put down.
Yea. Thats what I saw!
I like to know the bsck story !
I swear, the hood needs some vigilante motherfukers who don't give a fuck about shit. Make these mother fucken scared to call out of a fucking holes
Traumatize a little girl for life? For what? What did this dude do? Look at you sideways, stepped on your Jordans on the subway? Was it some stupid gang initiation bulshit? I can't fucking stand people
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what if that dude raped somebody sis/mom, killed somebody loved 1.. If somebody did that to your relative and you saw them are you gonna have sympathy cause they holding a love 1 hand or are you gonna unleash wrath?... Not saying ole boy is guilty but a broad daylight murder raises an eyebrow.. Unless that person is a straight nutso ,something says it's a backstory, especially that the passenger let off, meaning something is more to this story... If ole boy is innocent my full r.i.p... But something is up with how that went down
That poor child will be scarred for life.
Oh, wait. So this is that culture I've been hearing about?
Bruh you cant be this stupid. People aren't going to jail for violent crimes. They aren't going to jail for skipping out on court for the violent crimes that they committed. The ones that actually did find themselves in jail are being released to top covid. What the fuck did you think would happen? You think these crooks were going to go home then start following the rules? Na they rather go home and kill black people.
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Bro they are releasing violent offenders.
Stop thinking these extreme liberals give a fuck about us. They are almost as bad as the ultra conservatives.
Are these the NY class e non violent felonies?Bro they are releasing violent offenders.
Stop thinking these extreme liberals give a fuck about us. They are almost as bad as the ultra conservatives.
Cuomo added some back to the bail list, so the crime stats should improve, if not it's something else.Bail reform started January 1st. These stats are from February 4th.
- Any crime alleged to have caused a death
- Promoting an obscene sexual performance by a child
- First-degree grand larceny
- Failure to register as a third-degree sex offender
- Second-degree burglary if someone enters the living area of a home
- Escape from custody
Definitely going to be some evil on the streets off of this list.Bro they are releasing violent offenders.
Stop thinking these extreme liberals give a fuck about us. They are almost as bad as the ultra conservatives.
Obviouly you are that stupid to believe bail reform is bad. Secondly the bail system has kept people who have been charged (not convicted) of minor crimes in jail for x amount of time because they could not afford bail. Meanwhile those who can afford bail, whether for minor crimes, or serious crimes are let out.
So do you belive that people wjo have been charged but not convicted shouldn't be let out at all or only if they can afford to pay bail?
@crazyace718
You made a broad statement about bail reform and now you are reducing it to just NY bail reform.
I did a quick search on NY bail reform and this is what I found.
April 16, 2020
New York’s Latest Bail Law Changes Explained
Bail will be an option for more crimes, but the heart of the law remains intact.
www.brennancenter.org
"The basic framework established by the original bail reform law has not changed. For most misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies, judges are still required to release people with the least restrictive conditions necessary to reasonably assure the person will come back to court. For these crimes, cash bail is still prohibited.
In all other cases, judges have the discretion to release people, with or without pretrial conditions designed to ensure their return to court. These include electronic monitoring, participating in drug treatment programs, and setting bail. In certain felony cases, judges can remand people into custody.
More crimes eligible for cash bail
The original bail reform law allowed cash bail for almost all violent felonies and certain nonviolent felonies, such as sex offenses and witness tampering. The revisions added additional crimes and circumstances to this category. They include second-degree burglary where an individual is charged with entering the living area of a home, certain sex trafficking offenses, and promoting an obscene sexual performance of a child. They also include some crimes involving assault, including vehicular assault, and all charges alleged to have caused the death of a person.
More conditions trigger a cash bail option
Under the revisions, judges will be able to set cash bail based not only on the crime committed but also on a person’s legal history and status, allowing for more cases where bail could be used.
For example, if someone is on probation, under post-release supervision, or eligible to be sentenced as a “persistent offender,” cash bail can be set in connection with any new felony charge, even if it wouldn’t otherwise qualify for cash bail.
In addition, if someone is out on pretrial release for an offense involving a specific victim, cash bail may be set if that person is arrested for a new crime that has likewise has a specific victim. For example, if someone charged with a nonviolent robbery is released pretrial and then commits another nonviolent robbery, a judge would have the option of setting cash bail on the second arrest even though cash bail is generally not permitted for that type of robbery.
Expanded options for pretrial release conditions
Even though the new law permits the use of cash bail in more cases, it certainly is not required. Even for bail-eligible offenses, New York law allows judges to release people under a variety of conditions pending trial designed to ensure the person’s return to court.
The new changes provide judges with more options in fashioning those pretrial release conditions. Previously, judges could order a smaller range of options, such as pretrial supervision and travel restrictions. The update provides judges with wider discretion. Among other things, judges may now require people to surrender their passports, avoid contact with witnesses or victims, or participate in counseling or mental health treatment as part of their pretrial release.
However, in a shortcoming of both the original and revised laws, there is no specific funding to implement services or programs for the increased number of people who will be released before trial under supervision.
There are also still various options for exactly how judges can set bail. For example, instead of cash bail, judges may also order different types of bonds, including a type where friends and family members agree to guarantee a person’s return to court, and a secured type, for which property used as collateral can be forfeited if a person fails to return to court."
You made a broad statement about bail reform and now you are reducing it to just NY bail reform.
I did a quick search on NY bail reform and this is what I found.
April 16, 2020
New York’s Latest Bail Law Changes Explained
Bail will be an option for more crimes, but the heart of the law remains intact.
www.brennancenter.org
"The basic framework established by the original bail reform law has not changed. For most misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies, judges are still required to release people with the least restrictive conditions necessary to reasonably assure the person will come back to court. For these crimes, cash bail is still prohibited.
In all other cases, judges have the discretion to release people, with or without pretrial conditions designed to ensure their return to court. These include electronic monitoring, participating in drug treatment programs, and setting bail. In certain felony cases, judges can remand people into custody.
More crimes eligible for cash bail
The original bail reform law allowed cash bail for almost all violent felonies and certain nonviolent felonies, such as sex offenses and witness tampering. The revisions added additional crimes and circumstances to this category. They include second-degree burglary where an individual is charged with entering the living area of a home, certain sex trafficking offenses, and promoting an obscene sexual performance of a child. They also include some crimes involving assault, including vehicular assault, and all charges alleged to have caused the death of a person.
More conditions trigger a cash bail option
Under the revisions, judges will be able to set cash bail based not only on the crime committed but also on a person’s legal history and status, allowing for more cases where bail could be used.
For example, if someone is on probation, under post-release supervision, or eligible to be sentenced as a “persistent offender,” cash bail can be set in connection with any new felony charge, even if it wouldn’t otherwise qualify for cash bail.
In addition, if someone is out on pretrial release for an offense involving a specific victim, cash bail may be set if that person is arrested for a new crime that has likewise has a specific victim. For example, if someone charged with a nonviolent robbery is released pretrial and then commits another nonviolent robbery, a judge would have the option of setting cash bail on the second arrest even though cash bail is generally not permitted for that type of robbery.
Expanded options for pretrial release conditions
Even though the new law permits the use of cash bail in more cases, it certainly is not required. Even for bail-eligible offenses, New York law allows judges to release people under a variety of conditions pending trial designed to ensure the person’s return to court.
The new changes provide judges with more options in fashioning those pretrial release conditions. Previously, judges could order a smaller range of options, such as pretrial supervision and travel restrictions. The update provides judges with wider discretion. Among other things, judges may now require people to surrender their passports, avoid contact with witnesses or victims, or participate in counseling or mental health treatment as part of their pretrial release.
However, in a shortcoming of both the original and revised laws, there is no specific funding to implement services or programs for the increased number of people who will be released before trial under supervision.
There are also still various options for exactly how judges can set bail. For example, instead of cash bail, judges may also order different types of bonds, including a type where friends and family members agree to guarantee a person’s return to court, and a secured type, for which property used as collateral can be forfeited if a person fails to return to court."
Yeah seems he knew who it was when he turned and looked at them. This didn't seem like some random act. Ol' boy may have done something bad to someone or been at the scene when something bad happened. Either way it's another Black life lost. Seems like this cycle of violence will never end.
Biggie Smalls raped about robbing pregnant women back in the 90s. there has never been a code IMO
Of course he did something someone thought was foul as hell.Yeah seems he knew who it was when he turned and looked at them. This didn't seem like some random act. Ol' boy may have done something bad to someone or been at the scene when something bad happened. Either way it's another Black life lost. Seems like this cycle of violence will never end.
Bro my statement wasn't about bail reform in general. All my posts were specifically about New York bail reform. I live in New York. I work in the criminal justice system within new York. The murder took place in New York. I posted specific crimes that new York city doesn't require bail for.
I even went so far as to say that New Jersey had a better bail reform system than New York. How was I condemning bail reform in general?
I have first hand experience dealing with bail reform in NY and I've been on BGOL talking about it since last year. The fact that you engaged me before you even googled the topic shows your ignorance.
That was some bitch nigga shit.. wait until that man by himself.. shooter better hope his daughter don’t come looking for him when she get older and she on some killer shit or in a position where she has the full wait of the government behind her.. it’s only gonna go two ways
Well, that's just it. We tend to keep allow them to paint us with a wide brush. That's 1 criminal (and the driver is just as guilty) that did a heinous crime, hunt him down arrest, prosecute him and lock him away. Just like Sandy Hook, etc.
i remember back in 03', when the rapper Camoflauge was shot and killed outside his recording studio in Savannah while he was walking with his toddler son. These streets stopped giving a damn.......especially if u was a nigga that was in that life. He had niggas gunnin for him after he failed to get indicted for killing someone else. Streets is watchin, and could care less who is with you when they get you.I'm not saying that it was always followed 100%, but when I was coming up, it was understood that your enemy got a pass when he was with his kids.
This shit is disgusting to see.
What did he do to get shot in broad daylight holding his little girl’s hand?
"For if the man is right, his world will be right"...Hope he had a chance to tell her how much he loved her and to run home fast..RIP
I shouldn't have watched that
Yeah on some completely irresponsible conjecture
Looks like an organized hit
And seeing that little girl just RUN like that?
Like she was traines to duck and run if she every heard gunshots was heartbreaking
Yeah on some completely irresponsible conjecture
Looks like an organized hit
And seeing that little girl just RUN like that?
Like she was traines to duck and run if she every heard gunshots was heartbreaking