non-christians: who has read the bible?

heres basically what the bible talks about IMO.

the relationship between God and Man. Many people in the bible have the same struggles with faith as we do today. They believe in God but at times they wonder if God ever existed, or if God was still there. And every time God has showed love/discipline/etc to his people. Look at the 12 disciples they were almost the most hated people of the society. a banker, a tax collector, etc. prostitutes everybody was welcome.

I see it as a Love story between God and people. And in my opinion he wants us to show others this type of love in his name.

This theme of love I believe is what sets Christianity apart from other religions. Iam not saying Christians are more loving, iam saying the bible teaches Love throughout.

you prolly haven't read ANY other "holy" books cuz you wouldn't say anything like that.
 
If you take the bible as a fictional story with a few morals, you will be just fine. Taking it literally or picking & choosing which parts you'll use will fail every time
 
you prolly haven't read ANY other "holy" books cuz you wouldn't say anything like that.

I mean love for people, people who the so called society detested looked down on, love for your enemies, and so on. What I mean by this is the example Jesus lead who is the figure head of Christianity.


most religions preach love but love to your own people (friends/family), religion, nature, your own god. etc.


alot of people dont read the bible or anything for themselves any more, they just go by other peoples opinions of other peoples opinions. Reading the bible is one thing but studying it and thinking about what it is actually saying and what context is another thing. Alot of people in the Church know the bible stories but the stories are just words because rarly folks think about the big picture of everything together. The stories are important but its the lesson that is important not weather or not the world was created in exactly 7days lol.
 
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I mean love for people, people who the so called society detested looked down on, love for your enemies, and so on. What I mean by this is the example Jesus lead who is the figure head of Christianity.


most religions preach love but love to your own people (friends/family), religion, nature, your own god. etc.


alot of people dont read the bible or anything for themselves any more, they just go by other peoples opinions of other peoples opinions. Reading the bible is one thing but studying it and thinking about what it is actually saying and what context is another thing. Alot of people in the Church know the bible stories but the stories are just words because rarly folks think about the big picture of everything together. The stories are important but its the lesson that is important not weather or not the world was created in exactly 7days lol.

:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
I mean love for people, people who the so called society detested looked down on, love for your enemies, and so on. What I mean by this is the example Jesus lead who is the figure head of Christianity.


most religions preach love but love to your own people (friends/family), religion, nature, your own god. etc.


alot of people dont read the bible or anything for themselves any more, they just go by other peoples opinions of other peoples opinions. Reading the bible is one thing but studying it and thinking about what it is actually saying and what context is another thing. Alot of people in the Church know the bible stories but the stories are just words because rarly folks think about the big picture of everything together. The stories are important but its the lesson that is important not weather or not the world was created in exactly 7days lol.

The principle story in the bible is far from peaceful. God makes men, gets upset with men, has a son who he sacrifices so that he doesn't kill everyone, and then says "if you don't give me props for killing my son you will burn forever and ever. " Thats violent as fuck.
 
The principle story in the bible is far from peaceful. God makes men, gets upset with men, has a son who he sacrifices so that he doesn't kill everyone, and then says "if you don't give me props for killing my son you will burn forever and ever. " Thats violent as fuck.

yeah especially in the old testament god comes off like a dick. he is petty, vindictive, and jealous :smh:
 
The principle story in the bible is far from peaceful. God makes men, gets upset with men, has a son who he sacrifices so that he doesn't kill everyone, and then says "if you don't give me props for killing my son you will burn forever and ever. " Thats violent as fuck.

AND it's SPECIFICALLY about ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE
 
yeah especially in the old testament god comes off like a dick. he is petty, vindictive, and jealous :smh:

He tells us we have to get over our human emotions but he can't seem to get over them himself. I find it hard to believe in my tiny little mind that the guy who built the universe would give two damns if I fuck a woman I'm not married to or if I rub one out every now and again.
 
so this dude went out his way to read the bible just to shit on people's beliefs? No one is forcing it down your throat so whats the point?
 
u people act as irrational in ur everyday lives, if not more, as the Bible ur shittin on so wtf is the big deal? mf's have absolutely no problem believing bullshit like matter with no mass, black-holes, ufo's and warped space but get their panties all up in a bunch when dude walks on water? :hmm: foh.
 
u people act as irrational in ur everyday lives, if not more, as the Bible ur shittin on so wtf is the big deal? mf's have absolutely no problem believing bullshit like matter with no mass, black-holes, ufo's and warped space but get their panties all up in a bunch when dude walks on water? :hmm: foh.

so believing the bible ADDS to that list of irrationsl shit


take yo devils advocate ass to sleep:lol::lol:
 
u people act as irrational in ur everyday lives, if not more, as the Bible ur shittin on so wtf is the big deal? mf's have absolutely no problem believing bullshit like matter with no mass, black-holes, ufo's and warped space but get their panties all up in a bunch when dude walks on water? :hmm: foh.

Most of what you call bullshit has been proven to exist.

Are you a college graduate? Have you taken astrophysics?
 
u people act as irrational in ur everyday lives, if not more, as the Bible ur shittin on so wtf is the big deal? mf's have absolutely no problem believing bullshit like matter with no mass, black-holes, ufo's and warped space but get their panties all up in a bunch when dude walks on water? :hmm: foh.

You can look in the sky and see two of the things you mentioned at this exact moment...can you do that with Jesus? No. Which is why cats call time out when religious folk start attributing all these things to a man which ar all unprecedented. The theory behind a black hole may be totally off but you can still look up into the sky and see the black spot for yourself and come to your interpretation. This is not possible with Jesus...the only information out about him is someone else's testimony and that someone is trying to sell you something so it's far from unbiased.
 
I'm not gonna knock anyone who doesn't believe in religion but, don't be knocking someone who does. Just my 2 cent(That i'm sure HNIC will charge me. :rolleyes: )
 
u people act as irrational in ur everyday lives, if not more, as the Bible ur shittin on so wtf is the big deal? mf's have absolutely no problem believing bullshit like matter with no mass, black-holes, ufo's and warped space but get their panties all up in a bunch when dude walks on water? :hmm: foh.

:smh::smh:
 
one thing I mean some of you cats need to read about other religions before making these blanket statements. i mean seriously :lol:

i read the bible and various other books of mythology when i was a kid. just forgot how crazy it is :lol:

i like the norse mythology, that shit is good reading. ****, loki, thor....great characters.
 
one thing I mean some of you cats need to read about other religions before making these blanket statements. i mean seriously :lol:

i read the bible and various other books of mythology when i was a kid. just forgot how crazy it is :lol:

i like the norse mythology, that shit is good reading. ****, loki, thor....great characters.


:yes::yes::yes::yes:

Roman and Greek as well! LOVE IT
 
I'm not gonna knock anyone who doesn't believe in religion but, don't be knocking someone who does. Just my 2 cent(That i'm sure HNIC will charge me. :rolleyes: )

this thread started out as a discussion of the BOOK, not the religion. Of course, Christians came in and started making claims about people not reading it right, and why heathens would not get it or whatever. On the other hand ya got people bitching about how Christianity is bullshit, blahblah, same old shit.... cue Sean69 with his whole schtick, pretending he doesn't agree with the general premise, and so on...

Then the one guy comes in claiming that Xtianity is more about LOVE than any other religion, which is bullshit.

But really the thread isn't about RELIGION, it's about the book, so what you are saying, and some of the other anti xtians are saying is irrelevant.
 
so this dude went out his way to read the bible just to shit on people's beliefs? No one is forcing it down your throat so whats the point?

That's what Christianinty asks of followers isn't it, to change the beliefs of non-believers...?:confused:
What's good for the goose is good for the gander
 
yeah i mean thats the one everybody reads first. the greek is particularly good. i like the iliad, thats just great stuff.

but theres the difference even there. As a child, I was given the bible and pushed towards it to be the TRUTH.

I was also given Aesops fables, Greek and Roman mythology, things like that.... I enjoyed ALL OF THOSE way more than the bible, even with assistance from vacation bible school and all that.

I don't know the iliad, I was referring to the God stories they had, with Zeus and all them cats (I barely remember them now). I honestly believed in ALL THE GODS I ever read about. Had no clue I wasn't supposed to. It made total sense to me that every element had a God controlling it. The irrationality and bitchiness of those Gods, without the claims of being perfect set it up so that I could read them as unpredictable, and funny characters.
 
this thread started out as a discussion of the BOOK, not the religion. Of course, Christians came in and started making claims about people not reading it right, and why heathens would not get it or whatever. On the other hand ya got people bitching about how Christianity is bullshit, blahblah, same old shit.... cue Sean69 with his whole schtick, pretending he doesn't agree with the general premise, and so on...

Then the one guy comes in claiming that Xtianity is more about LOVE than any other religion, which is bullshit.

But really the thread isn't about RELIGION, it's about the book, so what you are saying, and some of the other anti xtians are saying is irrelevant.




My bad. So wait, if it's about the "book" doesn't it make it about "religion" because the "book" is part of the religion no?


Hell I just stated my opinion. Again, my bad but IMHO if you're talking about the book you're talking about religion.
 
My bad. So wait, if it's about the "book" doesn't it make it about "religion" because the "book" is part of the religion no?


Hell I just stated my opinion. Again, my bad but IMHO if you're talking about the book you're talking about religion.

nah, cuz people have a billion different interpretations of the book. Just the book as a literary work is how I interpreted the OP, but I suppose you're just as entitled to your interpretation of the post as well :lol:
 
so believing the bible ADDS to that list of irrationsl shit

take yo devils advocate ass to sleep:lol::lol:
Good. As far as u and others recognize that shit. lol.



Most of what you call bullshit has been proven to exist.

Are you a college graduate? Have you taken astrophysics?
Define "exists".

You see, most of what I call bull shit comes from me thinking rationally and not accepting shit because some middle aged white professor with a grey beard or some Discovery Chanel documentary says it's true. You believe irrational shit with the same religious compulsion of the Jesus freaks u condemn and u don't even realize it. They tell you that photons are real particles that exist but they have no mass. Yet in the 4th grade u learned that mass = the amount of matter an object contains. :lol:
gtfoh

You can look in the sky and see two of the things you mentioned at this exact moment...can you do that with Jesus? No. Which is why cats call time out when religious folk start attributing all these things to a man which ar all unprecedented. The theory behind a black hole may be totally off but you can still look up into the sky and see the black spot for yourself and come to your interpretation. This is not possible with Jesus...the only information out about him is someone else's testimony and that someone is trying to sell you something so it's far from unbiased.
So u can look up in the sky and see a black-hole, virtual particles and photons?:hmm: Cocaine is a helluva drug. :smh:

:smh: @ see black spot in the sky and come to your interpretation. Dude, seriously, read what u just wrote again and think about it for a sec.

Exiledking, see what i fucking mean. See? :smh:

gee, it sucks huh? lol
 
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.... cue Sean69 with his whole schtick, pretending he doesn't agree with the general premise, and so on...
what shtick? what's the general premise? that the Bible is full of mythology, allegory, hyperbole, nepotism and politics? When did this become news or rocket science? or is it the fact that i constantly call mf's out on the hypocrisy and double standard? :confused:

look dude, at some point people have to start having more sophisticated discussions and grow up out of this silly religion bashing shit. come on.
 
what shtick? what's the general premise? that the Bible is full of mythology, allegory, hyperbole, nepotism and politics? When did this become news or rocket science? or is it the fact that i constantly call mf's out on the hypocrisy and double standard? :confused:

look dude, at some point people have to start having more sophisticated discussions and grow up out of this silly religion bashing shit. come on.

are you kidding? You think this is well known enough yet?

nah bruh... you're too far ahead. Slow it down. I feel ya, sometimes it seems like we should be further than this, but we aint.


When Kanye made JESUS WALKS a few years ago, and people considered that "ground breaking" I knew we were further behind than I wanted to be. Frustrating, yet true.

At thos point, your points (which I think I get) will end up sounding like you yourself are a bible thumper- seriously.


and by the way, the generl premise of the thread was what people thought of the bible as a literary work, from my estimation. Hardly a bible bashing thing, especially the first few posts. And even if it is, it isn't really related to the "divinity" of it. Just a review, like any other book.
 
are you kidding? You think this is well known enough yet?

nah bruh... you're too far ahead. Slow it down. I feel ya, sometimes it seems like we should be further than this, but we aint.


When Kanye made JESUS WALKS a few years ago, and people considered that "ground breaking" I knew we were further behind than I wanted to be. Frustrating, yet true.

At thos point, your points (which I think I get) will end up sounding like you yourself are a bible thumper- seriously.
Ok ur right. so most of the religious population take their scriptures as gospel truth. so fucking what? that's what members of institutions do. what's the big deal? It's destructive? it encourages rationality and impedes knowledge? so does Wocka Flocka Flame's music and War of War Craft. Big deal.

My points come off as bible thumping? Really dude? lol. well guess what. it's called denial. and i could give a fuck. lol. truth stings.

as a literary work, personally, i think the bible is pretty good. the old testament is one sided as fuck though but mice don't write cat and mouse tales so w/e. new testament is deep if u read depending no how u read it.

and let's kill that "book review" noise. :rolleyes: nobody's reviewing the Bible like a regular book without prejudice. let's keep it 100. from jump this thread was destined to play out like it's predecessors
 
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Ok ur right. so most of the religious population take their scriptures as gospel truth. so fucking what? that's what members of institutions do. what's the big deal? It's destructive? it encourages rationality and impedes knowledge? so does Wocka Flocka Flame's music and War of War Craft. Big deal.

My points come off as biblt thumping? Really dude? lol. well guess what. it's called denial. and i could give a fuck. lol. truth stings.

You're right. No one should ever care about anything then. Why do YOU care about this discussion again?
 
You're right. No one should ever care about anything then. Why do YOU care about this discussion again?
I don't really CARE about it. It's 6:45AM, i've been working on a research paper all fucking morning, taking a break and decided to call out some bullshit in the thread that's all.
Look man, I feel where ur coming from and i respect that. We've had these discussions on here b4. People care about what the care about all i'm saying is keep shit 100. We're all guilty of of it, we just gotta check ourselves from time to time. i mean, what's the real issue secularist have with religious beliefs. they're irrational. not realizing that irrational behavior is what drives society. our evolution and anthropology, every fucking thing we do, testifies to this.
 
and let's kill that "book review" noise. :rolleyes: nobody's reviewing the Bible like a regular book without prejudice. let's keep it 100. from jump this thread was destined to play out like it's predecessors

I think that's how you and few others interpret it. I certainly didn't. I don't know why that would bother you so much anyway.

And if it turns out like it's predecessors it's because it's not time for that debate to die yet. Calm down and relax-- stay away from the threads then. Go look at some pussy. You're above and beyond it.
 
I don't really CARE about it. It's 6:45AM, i've been working on a research paper all fucking morning, taking a break and decided to call out some bullshit in the thread that's all.
Look man, I feel where ur coming from and i respect that. We've had these discussions on here b4. People care about what the care about all i'm saying is keep shit 100. We're all guilty of of it, we just gotta check ourselves from time to time. i mean, what's the real issue secularist have with religious beliefs. they're irrational. not realizing that irrational behavior is what drives society. our evolution and anthropology, every fucking thing we do, testifies to this.

that's fine, but you can't stop us from examining points nd moving beyond it. That's also true. Even within religion this is done. I'm all for the discussion. You seem to be pointing at secularists for starting this fight. And truth be told, America having a secularist sector, a place where we can even HAVE these discussions without being killed, is because of secularists, so where do you draw the line?
 
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