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Day_Carver said:
I’m not mad at the review! I think he has some valid points! Some points are extreme though…
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Its the extreme things
the inaccurate things
the entirely personal and bias things...

that make the entire thing

trash.

If this was submitted to me back in the day?

I wouldn't call in his supervisor.

I'd personally call his parents to explain to me how they raised such a disappointment and allowed them to read and write so poorly.

Yuuuck.
 
playahaitian said:
Its the extreme things
the inaccurate things
the entirely personal and bias things...

that make the entire thing

trash.

If this was submitted to me back in the day?

I wouldn't call in his supervisor.

I'd personally call his parents to explain to me how they raised such a disappointment and allowed them to read and write so poorly.

Yuuuck.
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Yea the extreme things do take it to another level; and make the review kinda ridiculous…
 
playahaitian said:
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Yeah but Nicki has gone EXTRA crazy. So has Wayne So has Drake...

Kendrick the Bishop of Hip Hop taking all these mutants powers to the extreme absorbing them and throwing them right back 1000 fold.
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Them super powers gettin' neutralized I can only watch in silence @Day_Carver
 
durham said:
That's a pretty terrible take. Pitchfork is the worst place for Hip Hop reviews going back to 2010 or so. I don't think the album is a classic, but it's way better than a 6.5, :eek: . I bet they listened to the unmastered leaked version :lol2:.

It's a 7.5/8 in my estimation, due to Pusha and Nas being the highlights.
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fair.

I'm on 8.5 but we on the same vibe.
 
playahaitian said:
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Yeah but Nicki has gone EXTRA crazy. So has Wayne So has Drake...

Kendrick the Bishop of Hip Hop taking all these mutants powers to the extreme absorbing them and throwing them right back 1000 fold.
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Not only killing them ; he killed all those rappers who worked with Drake also lol! Everyone staying far away from him lol and or if they do work with him it’s been trash…
 
M.H.C. said:
I must be getting old cuz I had to google how to buy this shit. I’m not buying it but I was curious cuz I didn’t think people were able to buy physical music anymore. Don’t flame me, I literally have 3 streaming platforms and that’s how I listen to shit.:dunno:

I used to buy every single cd on Tuesdays on release day from Sam Goody, Best Buy etc back in high school. Had that big ass black case of cd’s in the whip lol. For my DJ Smoke shit, I downloaded.

Now I just stream everything. I don’t own not one song that I didn’t download from back in the day smh
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I’m the same way!! I am thinking of getting a record player though and starting a vinyl collection…
 
Day_Carver said:
Not only killing them ; he killed all those rappers who worked with Drake also lol! Everyone staying far away from him lol and or if they do work with him it’s been trash…
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Okay you know how feel about THAT part.

I don't like cockroaches. We gotta be REAL careful here. Or we gonna have another Tekashi sh*t scar the culture

Bad or Good? Drake helped a lot of people. We not about to lie on that part. Even Kendrick and Push and Buddens and Future acknowledge that publicly. (Don't forget Pusha specifically spoke on Travis snaking Drake and how NON RAPPERS make these things escalate unnecessarily)

All these ball players for example - WHO DON'T RAP (word to Push) need to be careful in this beef stuff and don't cry later.

I don't like disloyalty.

Yeah the industry the industry. No loyalty But by THAT logic then Drake aint do nothing wrong. We accepting fuckery.

But apparently these fans CLAIMING we past that. So yeah okay then NOW we holding people accountable.

Ross is a snake, Rocky hands aint clean and Kanye and all the rest who were laying in wait for Drake to fail.

Kendrick isn't COSIGNING that.

He did NOT want nor NEED anyone else.

All these dudes to me are WORSE than Drake, they cowards and waited for someone ELSE to speak up and try to ride coattails (which apparently they did their entire careers) And dissing Drake after Kendrick? Got them NO WINS.

Kenny cosigned PUSHA/CLIPSE.

He aint even pop out during the Joey Badass sh*t.

I really respect the people who stayed neutral or stayed where they were at. We can't DISCOUNT loyalty. We just can't DO THAT.

Because trust and believe those same rats gonna flip first chance they get.

I believe that is why Kendrick just let it play out and didn't really cosign ANYONE.

Cause these aren't SERIOUS people.

I am not giving them no shine.
 
playahaitian said:
Okay you know how feel about THAT part.

I don't like cockroaches. We gotta be REAL careful here. Or we gonna have another Tekashi sh*t scar the culture

Bad or Good? Drake helped a lot of people. We not about to lie on that part. Even Kendrick and Push and Buddens and Future acknowledge that publicly. (Don't forget Pusha specifically spoke on Travis snaking Drake and how NON RAPPERS make these things escalate unnecessarily)

All these ball players for example - WHO DON'T RAP (word to Push) need to be careful in this beef stuff and don't cry later.

I don't like disloyalty.

Yeah the industry the industry. No loyalty But by THAT logic then Drake aint do nothing wrong. We accepting fuckery.

But apparently these fans CLAIMING we past that. So yeah okay then NOW we holding people accountable.

Ross is a snake, Rocky hands aint clean and Kanye and all the rest who were laying in wait for Drake to fail.

Kendrick isn't COSIGNING that.

He did NOT want nor NEED anyone else.

All these dudes to me are WORSE than Drake, they cowards and waited for someone ELSE to speak up and try to ride coattails (which apparently they did their entire careers) And dissing Drake after Kendrick? Got them NO WINS.

Kenny cosigned PUSHA/CLIPSE.

He aint even pop out during the Joey Badass sh*t.

I really respect the people who stayed neutral or stayed where they were at. We can't DISCOUNT loyalty. We just can't DO THAT.

Because trust and believe those same rats gonna flip first chance they get.

I believe that is why Kendrick just let it play out and didn't really cosign ANYONE.

Cause these aren't SERIOUS people.

I am not giving them no shine.
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I personally think Drake helped a lot of people but he also screwed a lot of people. It’s like golden handcuffs! They are golden but they still handcuffs; and I think that’s the perfect analogy for Drake…
 
Day_Carver said:
I personally think Drake helped a lot of people but he also screwed a lot of people. It’s like golden handcuffs! They are golden but they still handcuffs; and I think that’s the perfect analogy for Drake…
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But bro I can connect with life long industry folk and they will tell you that applies to 95% of the industry.

And real talk? MORE than just screwed people over with no reciprocation.

Clipse were talking about bitch ass rappers WAY before Drake even existed.

And we gonna act like AK etc and still out here? Now there are legit AI artists. Streaming still stealing money. Grammys considering including AI artists in the award system. Timbaland cosigning AI. These so called hip hop podcasts thriving and are NOT helping the culture at all.

The greatest thing Kendrick did and should get a Nobel Prize for? He is trying to establish BALANCE in hip hop again.

And I thought that would be impossible.

But with with Nas & Mass Appeal and the Clipse and Jay Z creating a new GENRE / CTERGORY of VINTAGE HIP HOP

We may survive.
 
playahaitian said:
But bro I can connect with life long industry folk and they will tell you that applies to 95% of the industry.

And real talk? MORE than just screwed people over with no reciprocation.

Clipse were talking about bitch ass rappers WAY before Drake even existed.

And we gonna act like AK etc and still out here? Now there are legit AI artists. Streaming still stealing money. Grammys considering including AI artists in the award system. Timbaland cosigning AI. These so called hip hop podcasts thriving and are NOT helping the culture at all.

The greatest thing Kendrick did and should get a Nobel Prize for? He is trying to establish BALANCE in hip hop again.

And I thought that would be impossible.

But with with Nas & Mass Appeal and the Clipse and Jay Z creating a new GENRE / CTERGORY of VINTAGE HIP HOP

We may survive.
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playahaitian said:
But bro I can connect with life long industry folk and they will tell you that applies to 95% of the industry.

And real talk? MORE than just screwed people over with no reciprocation.

Clipse were talking about bitch ass rappers WAY before Drake even existed.

And we gonna act like AK etc and still out here? Now there are legit AI artists. Streaming still stealing money. Grammys considering including AI artists in the award system. Timbaland cosigning AI. These so called hip hop podcasts thriving and are NOT helping the culture at all.

The greatest thing Kendrick did and should get a Nobel Prize for? He is trying to establish BALANCE in hip hop again.

And I thought that would be impossible.

But with with Nas & Mass Appeal and the Clipse and Jay Z creating a new GENRE / CTERGORY of VINTAGE HIP HOP

We may survive.
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And you are right people have always been getting screwed! It seems like he took it to another level; probably because he had more power than most and he could; jealousy was there to! But Kdot being able to help balance is amazing!!! Tyler he there also! And the labels being behind him is also crazy!! They truly don’t care one way or another; as long as it generates money for them! I’m just happy that there’s still real hip hop that can be pushed!
 
durham said:
Nas is a forever icon at this point. He could walk away and still be in the pantheon of emcees with that respect in any era shit. Not everyone loves his music, but that's subjective and personal. The story of Hip Hop can't be told without Illmatic, it just can't. The longevity and late life show up and show out is just icing on the cake. The business ventures are a testament to human growth that most did not desire to and or just didn't want to follow. I mean dude grew up in the projects and has to be worth $300 million plus.

Salute to that brother, he is Hip Hop. I hope we respect the totality of the story, not just argue over how shitty the Trackmasters were :lol2:
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It was written is his best album to me tho and trackmasters did that. I am was where the decline started to me. All them pop beats didnt fit him

How we gonna shit on trackmasters?
 
TheFuser said:
When you're 35 and calling other rappers old while asking the YNs to agree with you, that's just fucking WEIRD. This was the type of response you expect from a rapper who doesn't rap
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Yep and damn, didn't know Travis was that old :lol:

Yeah you can't be 35 calling someone 48 old...

Unless you're talking about sports :lol:
 
TheFuser said:
When you're 35 and calling other rappers old while asking the YNs to agree with you, that's just fucking WEIRD. This was the type of response you expect from a rapper who doesn't rap
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^^^^

Yuchk.... indeed.

sidebar: I f**king HATE this new YN term

Especially in Trump America and during this supposed save the culture era.

Drake was right about one thing

Ken Ken better give up trying to free these slaves.

They not serious people.
 

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