I don't think you guys understand something. Once a person tells you that they're willing to die or stage a coup for you, you no longer have to pretend to look out for that person's interest.
I don't think you guys understand something. Once a person tells you that they're willing to die or stage a coup for you, you no longer have to pretend to look out for that person's interest.
I don't think you guys understand something. Once a person tells you that they're willing to die or stage a coup for you, you no longer have to pretend to look out for that person's interest.
Remember the Heroes act? Remember Kamala Harris pushing for monthly income prior to being named VP? Remember Pelosi and hereI think it's interesting how the dems ran on increased monthly supplements back to $600, $2000 check, and minimum wage increase and none of it happened. But, very few of the supporters will really say anything.
It's a win lose situation. Dems will win some Republican voters who are receiving the stimulus and really need the funds and lose some of the dems who have now been cut out due to the restriction change.
Bernie, AOC, Omar and a few others have publicly shared their disapproval with this package and how the dems have handled this.
It's still crazy to see how many republicans voted against the bill. Maybe they could argue that they wanted more. That's why they vored no. Lol!! Both parties have serious issues.
that is the MOST naive statement I've seen you make so far in a political thread.I think it's interesting how the dems ran on increased monthly supplements back to $600, $2000 check, and minimum wage increase and none of it happened. But, very few of the supporters will really say anything.
It's a win lose situation. Dems will win some Republican voters who are receiving the stimulus and really need the funds and lose some of the dems who have now been cut out due to the restriction change.
Bernie, AOC, Omar and a few others have publicly shared their disapproval with this package and how the dems have handled this.
It's still crazy to see how many republicans voted against the bill. Maybe they could argue that they wanted more. That's why they vored no. Lol!! Both parties have serious issues.
this is the crunchy crux of my contention with you guy's position. You guys act like you took the red pill and see the matrix for what it is when the reality is we all know theres manipulations and shanigans going down but when it all boils down..when the rubber meets the road...when you come to the fork in the path (yeah I know.. alot of fuckin metaphors) YOURE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE! what was the republican plan for a 2nd stimulus (and this is still the 2nd stimulus) it wasn't 2000 dollars or 1400 dollars and it wasn't anything else they consider a "wishlist" in the bill.Remember the Heroes act? Remember Kamala Harris pushing for monthly income prior to being named VP? Remember Pelosi and here"$600 or they can eat cake!"
SOME of us saw through the politics, while others didn't.
Even though dems pulled a bait-and-switch, the GOP really never wanted to give people anything. Only Trump and his flunkies did before the election just to try to buy it.
Manchin still needs his ass kicked.
You’re sounding straight up brainwashed, like a bot (only programmed to do what it is told), to keep parroting that “we only have two choices” narrative. The reality is that many people don’t care about these issues because it isn’t affecting them and push the narrative of “vote BLUE or die” because they want their immigrant and LGBT rights expanded. The cowards are just too afraid to admit it because they would reveal they’re compromised.that is the MOST naive statement I've seen you make so far in a political thread.
this is the crunchy crux of my contention with you guy's position. You guys act like you took the red pill and see the matrix for what it is when the reality is we all know theres manipulations and shanigans going down but when it all boils down..when the rubber meets the road...when you come to the fork in the path (yeah I know.. alot of fuckin metaphors) YOURE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE! what was the republican plan for a 2nd stimulus (and this is still the 2nd stimulus) it wasn't 2000 dollars or 1400 dollars and it wasn't anything else they consider a "wishlist" in the bill.
Did the dems come thru with everything they promised..NO we know this but its still a more palatable choice than what the republicans were going to do given the leverage.
Again this is NOT cheerleading for the democratic party. I'm not happy with how that shit went down AT ALL and every single one of the nay voters should be primaried and pressure applied across the board but thats ACTION...all this sniping on the board from the usual suspects, while it can be called criticism, its certainly NOT constructive and it seems more designed to be disparaging and discouraging people to participate and make shit happen.
Calling anyone a fool for voting for democrats in THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION is just plain ridiculous and it doesn't enlighten anyone to anything. Nor does it prove you know better since we're all in the same leaky sinking boat.
Come on man. I got you to admit back in the fall that Pelosi was obstructing. MOST on your side wouldn't admit that because they couldn't even fucking see it. So saying WE ALL KNOW, is bullshit. How many times did fools invoke that showpiece Heroes act? People really fucking believed that was a serious piece of legislation and you talking WE ALL KNOW. You the only one strongly for democrats I seen admit to Pelosi's obstruction.that is the MOST naive statement I've seen you make so far in a political thread.
this is the crunchy crux of my contention with you guy's position. You guys act like you took the red pill and see the matrix for what it is when the reality is we all know theres manipulations and shanigans going down but when it all boils down..when the rubber meets the road...when you come to the fork in the path (yeah I know.. alot of fuckin metaphors) YOURE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE! what was the republican plan for a 2nd stimulus (and this is still the 2nd stimulus) it wasn't 2000 dollars or 1400 dollars and it wasn't anything else they consider a "wishlist" in the bill.
Did the dems come thru with everything they promised..NO we know this but its still a more palatable choice than what the republicans were going to do given the leverage.
Again this is NOT cheerleading for the democratic party. I'm not happy with how that shit went down AT ALL and every single one of the nay voters should be primaried and pressure applied across the board but thats ACTION...all this sniping on the board from the usual suspects, while it can be called criticism, its certainly NOT constructive and it seems more designed to be disparaging and discouraging people to participate and make shit happen.
Calling anyone a fool for voting for democrats in THIS SPECIFIC SITUATION is just plain ridiculous and it doesn't enlighten anyone to anything. Nor does it prove you know better since we're all in the same leaky sinking boat.
Come on man. I got you to admit back in the fall that Pelosi was obstructing. MOST on your side wouldn't admit that because they couldn't even fucking see it. So saying WE ALL KNOW, is bullshit. How many times did fools invoke that showpiece Heroes act? People really fucking believed that was a serious piece of legislation and you talking WE ALL KNOW. You the only one strongly for democrats I seen admit to Pelosi's obstruction.
Off top, I'd say 80 percent of democrats thought the Heroes act was a serious piece of legislation, yet we talk about the Fox news crowd falling for bullshit.
If you are being 1000 percent honest, you know Trump was willing to go 2k in the fall and they were also offering $300 for UE. Nancy was like"heel of the loaf and no Trump name on checks!!! 600 or death to the poors!!!" Wolf Blitzer called that bitch Pelosi out and there were some cornballs on BGOL siding with Pelosi. Bruh, the receipts all there. Now the heel of the loaf is filet mignon.
Also, I never called anyone a fool for voting for the democrats. I will call people fools for making excuses for them AFTER voting. Basically, voting and not demanding. Fuck that.
many people don't care about immigrant and lgbt rights either. you hating cuz they seem to have a more effective lobby...You’re sounding straight up brainwashed, like a bot (only programmed to do what it is told), to keep parroting that “we only have two choices” narrative. The reality is that many people don’t care about these issues because it isn’t affecting them and push the narrative of “vote BLUE or die” because they want their immigrant and LGBT rights expanded. The cowards are just too afraid to admit it because they would reveal they’re compromised.
dude I don't see anyone cracking champagne bottles over the deal. And like biden trump was never gonna get 2000 across you know it and I know it. What was in the republicans skinny bill?? no stimulus check, 300 bucks or 70 % of your earnings? and then it dwindles from there? Trump didnt have the power to pull off anymore than that.Come on man. I got you to admit back in the fall that Pelosi was obstructing. MOST on your side wouldn't admit that because they couldn't even fucking see it. So saying WE ALL KNOW, is bullshit. How many times did fools invoke that showpiece Heroes act? People really fucking believed that was a serious piece of legislation and you talking WE ALL KNOW. You the only one strongly for democrats I seen admit to Pelosi's obstruction.
Off top, I'd say 80 percent of democrats thought the Heroes act was a serious piece of legislation, yet we talk about the Fox news crowd falling for bullshit.
If you are being 1000 percent honest, you know Trump was willing to go 2k in the fall and they were also offering $300 for UE. Nancy was like"heel of the loaf and no Trump name on checks!!! 600 or death to the poors!!!" Wolf Blitzer called that bitch Pelosi out and there were some cornballs on BGOL siding with Pelosi. Bruh, the receipts all there. Now the heel of the loaf is filet mignon.
Also, I never called anyone a fool for voting for the democrats. I will call people fools for making excuses for them AFTER voting. Basically, voting and not demanding. Fuck that.
The funny thing is there is a pinned thread dedicated to Biden (something that wasn’t even done for Obama) on BGOL and the majority of the content in the thread is about Republicans or Trump. That’s why the blue team keeps losing because they are focused on the wrong shit. Anyone that is still supporting a national level Democrat without criticism and demand for change is an agent at this point. Nothing they are doing is defendable and Biden is making his mentor Strom Thurmond proud with constant attacks against the people that he said he was going to take care of.![]()
I'm happy for those that are getting checks. One part of me is mad, and the other part is grateful that my wife and I are in a position to where we don't qualify for a check.
Manchin needs his ass all the way kicked. All this is because of his bitch ass. Now there is a delay.The big bitch is like Mitch's right-hand man. And this the cat claim he wanted 'targeted' relief, yet he keeps wanting to cut money for UE.
He is parroting Portman(r) talking points. The dems need to end this guy's career with the quickness.
I don't think you guys understand something. Once a person tells you that they're willing to die or stage a coup for you, you no longer have to pretend to look out for that person's interest.