NBA OWNERS are pissed: CBA is rumor to include franchise tag system

[killa kadafi191]

Lebron is catching all the blame for this but the latest rumblings from CBA negotiations is that the owners are seeking to adopt the NFL's franchise tag and non guaranteed contracts.

One solution would be to increase the financial incentives for a player to stay home (or, conversely, increase the penalties for leaving). Under the current system, a player who stays with his team can sign for six years (instead of five), with 10 percent raises (instead of 8 percent). The league could try to widen the gap, perhaps limiting players to three-year deals and even smaller salary increases if they change teams.

Another possibility, although it is considered a long shot, would be to adopt the franchise tag system used in the N.F.L. Under that system, teams can bind star players to another year of service, essentially delaying their free agency.

“It will be discussed,” said one Eastern Conference executive, adding, “I can’t see it happening.”

The Summer of LeBron has turned into the Summer of Superstar Discontent and may well become the Off-season That Changed Everything. The N.B.A.’s best players are either relocating or trying to, upsetting the league’s balance of power and undermining a system that was once fine-tuned for parity and stability.

The reckoning will come, as with everything else, at the bargaining table, where owners will try to wrest back control in the next labor deal. Already, there is talk among team executives of franchise tags and heavy financial penalties for players changing teams, measures that are anathema to the players union.

It is unknown whether such measures were part of the owners’ initial proposal, but they will surely be introduced as the two sides haggle in the coming months. The current collective bargaining agreement expires next July.

By then, Anthony could be wearing a new uniform, adding another name to the superstar exodus.

As Yahoo Sports reported Thursday, Anthony has soured on the Denver Nuggets and is asking to be traded. The Nuggets, fearful of losing Anthony to free agency next summer, seem likely to oblige him.

A deal could happen before the season starts in late October, but more likely it will not occur until closer to the trading deadline in February. The wait will be a compelling drama for fans and commentators, but it only adds to the angst for Commissioner David Stern and the league’s owners.

Until this summer, no superstar in his prime had changed teams via free agency since 2000, when Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady joined the Orlando Magic. No player of James’s stature had done so since 1996, when Shaquille O’Neal left Orlando for the Los Angeles Lakers.

Otherwise, the system worked, keeping Tim Duncan in San Antonio, Reggie Miller in Indiana, Chris Webber in Sacramento and John Stockton and Karl Malone in Utah throughout their primes. In fact, it has worked so well that some agents regard superstar free agency as a virtual myth.

James destroyed the model in July, when he left Cleveland for Miami. He left $15 million on the table to join the Heat, but he would have sacrificed about $30 million had the Cavaliers not agreed to a sign-and-trade deal at the last minute.

Bosh, the longtime Toronto star, followed James to Miami under a similar arrangement. Stoudemire left Phoenix for the Knicks. In the wake of those moves, Paul (New Orleans) and Anthony (Denver) delivered trade-me-or-lose-me ultimatums to their teams.

Never in a single off-season have players demonstrated such a brazen show of self-determination. Rarely has so much high-level talent been on the move. It is a potentially dangerous trend for the league.

If Anthony and Paul can force their way to bigger markets — perhaps creating another superteam in New York — it will undermine the N.B.A.’s decades-long commitment to parity and create despair in every small market.

That is why most team executives (who are forbidden from speaking publicly on labor issues) expect more drastic measures to curtail movement in the next collective bargaining agreement.

These people are acting like Lebron destroyed the NBA.

What it comes down to is the owners realize the power has shifted to the players and they want no part of it.

 

[Duffle_Bag]

Link???

And was there any mention of a hard salary cap.

 

[Judge Rudy]

it's good they propose that, it has potential to split the owners up between big and small markets

 

[killa kadafi191]

oh my bad http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/rethinking-the-system-as-n-b-a-stars-move/


from what I been reading is that many people criticizing Wade Lebron and the other super stars not taking a more involvement in the CBA agreement since it will likely affect them.

Similar to the last one where the age limit was raised and changed the whole straight out of high school and NBA dress code.

The players who are negotiating will likely be out of the league in two to three years plus they do not see the money that super stars do.

 

[sourman_yup]

The owners should be pissed. The players are employees not bosses.

 

[unknownsoldier]

These people are acting like Lebron destroyed the NBA.

He did fam, as you say...he shifted the balance of power. These crackers are reeling, they need to change it & fast I wish I could find John Lucas talking about the salary structure of the NBA, he be on the radio breaking that shit down & keeping it real on the system.

 

[BDR]

The power should have always been in players hands.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

The owners should be pissed. The players are employees not bosses.

Employees not slaves or indentured servants.

As long as they fulfill their end of their contract, they are doing everything within their rights. Free labor.

I remember the last lockout. Billy Hunter and the union caved in cause most of the players in the league were living check to check and couldn't stomach the extended holdout and needed to get paid. They gave up so many concessions. I'm sure the same shit will happen again.

What will be interesting to see is if Billy Hunter can disprove Stern's allegations that the majority of teams are losing money. This is the same shit that was going down with MLB and we see that was a lot of bullshit.

 

[Mask]

Ain't this some shit, a few cats(ninjas)went against the grain and they don't like that shit....

The sad part is the amount they get in return ain't no where close to what these ninjas make.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Ain't this some shit, a few cats(ninjas)went against the grain and they don't like that shit....

The sad part is the amount they get in return ain't no where close to what these ninjas make.

The league is scared of what the league can potentially become. Melo already talking about going to the Knicks with Amare and possibly Chris Paul or Tony Parker. There are going to be about 5 good teams in the league if this shit keeps up. I understand the league trying to stop it. The league already has to figure out what the fuck to do with the Cavs and the Raptors now. That's two more teams who aren't going to generate any money for the NBA to go along with teams like the Kings and T-Wolves.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

The league is scared of what the league can potentially become. Melo already talking about going to the Knicks with Amare and possibly Chris Paul or Tony Parker. There are going to be about 5 good teams in the league if this shit keeps up. I understand the league trying to stop it. The league already has to figure out what the fuck to do with the Cavs and the Raptors now. That's two more teams who aren't going to generate any money for the NBA to go along with teams like the Kings and T-Wolves.

David Stern is scared.

Most of the league's problems fall upon the owners' shoulders. Toronto knew Bosh was leaving. He was going to be a FA cause they gave him a contract that allowed him to be. If you knew he was going to break, trade him and get some value in return. All these players are trying to control their own cards because the owners hire shitty GMs that never make their teams competitive or simply do dumb shit. Look at Dolan and the Knicks. It's been 10 fuckin' years since they were relevant. There is no reason in the world that the #1 market in the world should have a basketball team that hasn't made the playoffs in a decade. That's on Dolan.

Players understand the power of branding and know they can maximize their dollars in big markets with teams that win. Denver is going nowhere. Melo might as well break out, go somewhere he can win and make more money as a brand. I don't blame the players. I endorse that shit.

 

[dtownsfinest]

David Stern is scared.

Most of the league's problems fall upon the owners' shoulders. Toronto knew Bosh was leaving. He was going to be a FA cause they gave him a contract that allowed him to be. If you knew he was going to break, trade him and get some value in return. All these players are trying to control their own cards because the owners hire shitty GMs that never make their teams competitive or simply do dumb shit. Look at Dolan and the Knicks. It's been 10 fuckin' years since they were relevant. There is no reason in the world that the #1 market in the world should have a basketball team that hasn't made the playoffs in a decade. That's on Dolan.

Players understand the power of branding and know they can maximize their dollars in big markets with teams that win. Denver is going nowhere. Melo might as well break out, go somewhere he can win and make more money as a brand. I don't blame the players. I endorse that shit.

I don't think the Raptors knew Bosh was leaving. They had his rights. Owners got confident. They thought well they could offer them the most money so why would they leave? Raptors and Cavs got too cocky. I'm not sure who to blame for this shit. Can't blame the Heat for it. Can't blame the players. We'll see. If the Heat fail we won't ever see some shit like this again. If it succeeds we will see this type of shit happen every year. Players dictating where they go.

 

[Duffle_Bag]

All of these new proposals just seem like a gross over-reaction. 9 times out of 10 the players will take more money, it just happens that Lebron and Bosh are the exception. As long as teams can offer players significantly more money than their competition, I don't see what Lebron did becoming a trend.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

I don't think the Raptors knew Bosh was leaving. They had his rights. Owners got confident. They thought well they could offer them the most money so why would they leave? Raptors and Cavs got too cocky. I'm not sure who to blame for this shit. Can't blame the Heat for it. Can't blame the players. We'll see. If the Heat fail we won't ever see some shit like this again. If it succeeds we will see this type of shit happen every year. Players dictating where they go.

Fam. Everyone knew Bosh was leaving. He was tweeting his fans asking where he should go. And even if you don't think he's leaving, can you truly run the risk of letting him go for nothing. Toronto managed to do a sign and trade but you get 25 cents on the dollar when it goes down like that.

Here is one of the NBA's biggest problems. Taxes and endorsement money. Florida and Texas have no state taxes which makes them attractive destinations for players. Nevermind the fact that you got Pat Riley and Mark Cuban running teams down there. Then you got Toronto which has higher taxes. So on a pure dollar level, there are advantageous places to play and disadvantageous places.

Then you have your ancillary money: endorsements. You are going to make more money in one of the top markets as opposed to one of the smaller markets. And players these days value money over winning. So there best bet is to go get the money and get other top tier players to join them so they can have their cake and eat it too.

 

[killa kadafi191]

Fam. Everyone knew Bosh was leaving. He was tweeting his fans asking where he should go. And even if you don't think he's leaving, can you truly run the risk of letting him go for nothing. Toronto managed to do a sign and trade but you get 25 cents on the dollar when it goes down like that.

Here is one of the NBA's biggest problems. Taxes and endorsement money. Florida and Texas have no state taxes which makes them attractive destinations for players. Nevermind the fact that you got Pat Riley and Mark Cuban running teams down there. Then you got Toronto which has higher taxes. So on a pure dollar level, there are advantageous places to play and disadvantageous places.

Then you have your ancillary money: endorsements. You are going to make more money in one of the top markets as opposed to one of the smaller markets. And players these days value money over winning. So there best bet is to go get the money and get other top tier players to join them so they can have their cake and eat it too.

I think both you and dtown have it right.

BC GM of the raptors is now trying to tell the fans that it was apparent that Bosh was never coming back. Now everyone is saying if that is the case. Why didn't you trade him??

The Lakers made the Andrew Bynum offer and you turn it down.

The Nuggets offer Kenyon Martin and JR Smith and you turn it down.

The owners and GM don't want to look incompetent or that they failed to surround the player with great talent so they blame the player.

Notice BC said "Bosh gave up and faked an injury." " Dan Gilbert "Lebron gave up."

Now Melo love for the game is being question in the media.

The one common factor.

CAA. Lebron's agent represent the super stars who are unhappy trying to force a trade.

How long till Deron Williams who has already said his girls wish they could live in Dallas during the season. They have to buy all their clothes online as he does also.

How long till Deron leaves and join a star to help him do what the Jazz seem to fail to do every year???

GM's are scared because the one thing they felt that would control their superstars isn't. Money.

So now they are looking for another way.

 

[Philly Brave]

The owners should be pissed. The players are employees not bosses.

 

[heiesuke]

If I were an owner I'd def want this. Not sure if its good for the game, but I certainly do understand it. If this shyt should pass It may be good for something. I'm all for the players having their power, but they shouldn't be too powerful. What kinda game would we have if all the stars did anything, went anywhere they wanted?

 

[unknownsoldier]

How long till Deron Williams who has already said his girls wish they could live in Dallas during the season.

Hopefully the day Kidd announces his retirement

 

[killa kadafi191]

Players like Gay, Andre Iggy and Joe Johnson no one cares. These players aren't like the ones who are making the switch.

Melo turns down 65 million and now Denver is like "Fuck, what can we do. He is not corroborating."

Denver you didn't do shit after the Lakers beat you in 6. The Lakers got stronger, hell majority every team got stronger and you sat on your ass, You trade away Camby and then tried to get him back?????

Al Harrington is your biggest signing during the summer???

The owners don't like that Lebron set the example.

Jamal Crawford just release today. If he does not get an extension before training camp he wants to be traded.

Atlanta Hawks guard Jamal Crawford plans to ask for a trade if he is not given an extension in the near future, a source close to him told FanHouse. The 11th-year veteran averaged 18 points last season, winning the league's Sixth Man of the Year award while helping the Hawks to a 53-29 record before they were swept by the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

Look what Rudy Fernandez is doing. He basically told the Blazers and NBA.

Fuck you if the Blazers don't trade me I will play overseas and it better be to a team I fucking want or I will stay my ass in Spain. FUCK YOU!!

The NBA fined him and Rudy laughed that shit off


Owners see a trend happening. How long till John Wall wants to leave?? Brandon Roy??

Hell my team is no exception. Brook Lopez was just listed the number 3 center in the league but what if he said fuck it I'm going some where where people will actually notice me.

 

[AgentCreed]

that franchise tag is gonna turn players against lebron big time....all the shit the owners want will eventually be passed, the non-guaranteed deals will almost certainly happen b/c of the eddy curry's of the nba or the dudes who play hard in contract years...the players wanted power they gonna have to deal with the owners going wild. a lot of these owners have outside nba money a lockout won't hurt them for a yr or 2...but tell a cat making all this money he won't get nothing...ppl won't even buy the shoes b/c there will be no nba...
this dude melo better shut up and force his trade wherever or his ass might end up locked out and franchised before he knows it....

 

[malaki]

why do players have to stay in one city their whole damn career anyway?

fuck it they should do this shit like soccer. the players go hard 2 years for a team then get loaned out, sign with another squad, shit like that. imagine having LeBron or Wade or Kobe come play in your city for 2 years

 

[Mo-Better]

The owners should be pissed. The players are employees not bosses.

You think so huh? What would the owners have if not for the players. Backwards thinking life that is what led the Cleveland Cav's owner to expose his slave mentality. Why should owners have total control over a players career? You need to get a grip.

When a player fulfills his contract he has earned the right to play with whatever team he chooses.

 

[TurellSmith]

If I were an owner I'd def want this. Not sure if its good for the game, but I certainly do understand it. If this shyt should pass It may be good for something. I'm all for the players having their power, but they shouldn't be too powerful. What kinda game would we have if all the stars did anything, went anywhere they wanted?

Bottom line, Lebron's profession is a basketball superstar. His skill is basketball. He has the right to practice his profession anywhere he wants. Fuck the owners!

The owners should be pissed. The players are employees not bosses.

If they are employees then they can work for who ever the fuck they want.

You guys sound like you want to bring slavery back.

 

[killa kadafi191]

I do agree with the people who are saying that the NBA players have the right to play where they want. The thing is the owners are scared and feel if they can control the players by money they will have to find another way.

The low market teams are worried they will only be able to keep their draft picks just for three seasons.

 

[AgentCreed]

I do agree with the people who are saying that the NBA players have the right to play where they want. The thing is the owners are scared and feel if they can control the players by money they will have to find another way.

The low market teams are worried they will only be able to keep their draft picks just for three seasons.

memphis is probably worried that mayo will leave in 2 yrs...the bucks better be worried about losing brandon jennings...that franchise tag will be hard fought for...the owners want protections that the lebron/wade/bosh thing never happens again...

offtopic u read how the nuggets new gm is determined not to trade melo? and how melo is telling everyone he wants to be a knick if he is traded to anywhere else he won't sign the extension so he can force a deal to the knicks? wild shit...i'd like to see melo on the same team as danilo, stat and randolph...maybe even move melo to sg...sickness

 

[Nobody]

Gms and owners have no one to blame but themselves. They pass up opportunities and fuck up other opportunities to build around players.

Look at the article, this is the first time a superstar made a move in free agency in 10 years, the first time a top 3 player made a move in 14. And now owners panic. What kind of shit is that?

The raptors would have been better if they drafted better I'm 2006. Imagine Brandon Roy in Toronto with Chris Bosh. Same of the cavs.
You can't penalize a player who wants to win so much they take LESS money, to be constrained to a team that obviously can't make the necessary moves to improve a team.

And you can't take away the leverage a player has to force a team to get better, or trade them.

Imagine Lebron was stuck in Cleveland with that shitty supporting cast (vie always said the caves without Lebron are worse than the Knicks) and an incompetent front office.

I like Kevin Durant a lot, bt people comparing his actions to Lebron is foolish. lebron took his extension the way Durant did. No big fanfare. Also, look what they're doing in OKC. They drafted well with Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka. Made a move to get bigger with Cole Aldrich.

What have the cavs done? Exactly.

 

[killa kadafi191]

memphis is probably worried that mayo will leave in 2 yrs...the bucks better be worried about losing brandon jennings...that franchise tag will be hard fought for...the owners want protections that the lebron/wade/bosh thing never happens again...

offtopic u read how the nuggets new gm is determined not to trade melo? and how melo is telling everyone he wants to be a knick if he is traded to anywhere else he won't sign the extension so he can force a deal to the knicks? wild shit...i'd like to see melo on the same team as danilo, stat and randolph...maybe even move melo to sg...sickness

Mayo actually knows his time is up.

By Memphis committing to Gay basically was the nail in the coffin.

Actually before that. The Grizz try to trade him Mayo for the Warriors Ellis but the warriors turn him down.

Tim Kawakami of the Mercury News is reporting that the Warriors turned down a trade offer from the Memphis Grizzlies of O.J. Mayo and contract filler for Monta Ellis.

Now, on the face of this, it appears to be a pretty natural rejection of a reasonable offer from Memphis. But OJAM is younger, has no moped injury, and is becoming one of the better perimeter defenders in the league, despite what's in the Kawakami story from a source regarding his defense.

Meanwhile, Ellis has turned into a prototypical garbage time scorer, pouring in points for a terrible team, with 4 years and $44 million left on his contract. A long-term contract for a poor defensive player in exchange for a second year player who nearly won rookie of the year last year and who is a true small guard, versus Ellis' combo-weirdness.

The Grizzlies should do its part to try and spend some of their cap-space to contend and improve. But Mayo's been a huge part of their success and continues to improve. Trading him for Ellis would have been a step backwards for the organization that fit no need. Luckily the Warriors are more interested in keeping as many players it can mismanage as possible.

As for Melo the times and everyone is reporting dude is all but ready to go toe Nets and Clippers as long as he gets his 65 million extension he is good.


Post your link.

The only new news regarding Melo is that the Wizards have made an offer hoping to get in it as well.

Take it for what it's worth, but the Wizards recently made an obligatory call to the Denver Nuggets to check on the availability of all-star forward Carmelo Anthony, a league source said on Friday. The source added that the Wizards were simply doing their due diligence and that the same phone call was made by "29 teams. Carmelo is pretty good."

Multiple Internet reports have made it clear that Anthony is looking to move elsewhere. Anthony will earn $17 million in the final year of his deal, but has stalled all summer to sign a $65 million extension with the Nuggets, the only team for which he has played since going third in the 2003 draft.

The likelihood of Anthony returning to play professionally near his home town of Baltimore is on the shady side of slim. Denver has told league executives that it is seeking a package of expiring contracts, future draft picks and young prospects in any deal for its franchise cornerstone.

Yahoo! Sports reported on Thursday that Anthony made it clear to owner-in-waiting Josh Kroenke that he wants to leave during a meeting last weekend in Baltimore. The New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the two most probable destinations, with Anthony's wife, LaLa Vasquez, a former MTV personality, seeking to a better location to pursue her entertainment career. Yahoo! Sports also mentioned Golden State, Houston and Charlotte as possibilities.

The Wizards have no plans of trading No. 1 overall pick John Wall and no large expiring contracts of note, while the Nuggets have no interest in taking back bad contracts, which rules out shipping Gilbert Arenas and the four years and $80 million left on his deal. If the Wizards were to assemble an attractive package of young players -- excluding Wall -- there likely wouldn't be a team with enough remaining talent to encourage Anthony to sign an extension in Washington.

"I really don't think they know what they are going to do yet," the source said of the Nuggets.

Masai Ujiri was introduced as the Nuggets' executive vice president of basketball operations on Friday and told the Denver Post that he does not want to trade Anthony and would like to meet with him. "I love Melo," Ujiri told the newspaper. "Carmelo is the Denver Nuggets, he's the city of Denver, he's done so well on this team. So we're going to deal with the issue full force."

Ujiri, a former member of the Nuggets scouting department who recently worked for the Toronto Raptors, added that he intends on keeping Anthony in Denver for years to come. "He's a superstar in the league, and that's our priority. We want to keep Melo. We love Melo. That's all I can say."

The Wizards are in the midst of rebuilding around Wall, which kept them from entering the free agency frenzy for LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and others this summer. But while Anthony is an established superstar, he is relatively young at age 26. The three-time all-star is one of the more prolific scorers in the league, with a career average of 24.7 points.

The Nuggets have been in disarray this offseason with the organization deciding not to renew the contracts of vice president of basketball operations Mark Warkentein and vice president of player personnel Rex Chapman earlier this month. David Griffin, their first choice take over as general manager, declined the job in a dispute over money. Coach George Karl is also recovering from cancer. And, after getting approval to purchase the St. Louis Rams this week, owner Stan Kroenke was forced to hand over the Nuggets and the NHL's Avalanche to his 30-year-old son, Josh.

Speculation that Anthony wanted out of Denver began to swirl shortly after Chris Paul reportedly made a toast during Anthony's wedding last July about forming a super team with Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire with the New York Knicks. Anthony has done little since then to quash the momentum of his possible departure.

and he is the post

The Denver Nuggets yesterday officially named Masai Ujiri as their executive vice president of basketball operations.

That phone ringing in the background could be Nets general manager Billy King calling.

With All-Star Carmelo Anthony and his representatives having delivered a virtual ultimatum to the Nuggets about trading him, the Nets are viewed as one of the teams with the strongest chance of landing the 6-foot-8 forward. Why?

"They have the pieces to trade and the draft picks," one NBA team executive said. "He'd play for them. Yes, I do think the Nets have a legit shot."

King, via e-mail, upheld his stance that: "I can't comment on trade rumors."

Plus, anyone affiliated with another team cannot comment on a player under contract. Various team executives spoke on the condition of anonymity, as did several agents who did not want publicly to discuss a rival's client. Most thrust the Nets into a very positive light and most feel Anthony is almost certainly gone from Denver. Most, not all.

"Denver still has him under contract, and they can always wait," one agent said. "They don't have to trade him now."

But if they wait too long, they run the risk of losing Anthony, 26, for mere cap space next summer. Anthony has ignored a three-year, $65 million contract extension and his representatives seek a sign-and-trade. Anthony can opt out and become a free agent next summer, but with potential labor strife looming he wants the windfall now.

So the Nets, who have held no discussions to date with the Nuggets, are very interested. The price of course would be steep. One team insider intimated that for a player of Anthony's stature, no current Net would be deemed untouchable, including Brook Lopez.

"But then, would Carmelo want to go to New Jersey?" asked one opposing team executive. "Sure, it's always about money, but this summer has also shown that it's about winning for the players. Carmelo would not have that good a chance to win there without Brook Lopez."

At Anthony's wedding this summer, Chris Paul referred to a super team in New York with himself and Anthony eventually joining Amar'e Stoudemire. But in a trade scenario, the Knicks do not seem to have enough appealing pieces. The Clippers and Rockets are also seen as strong contenders.

The Nets, though, are loaded with draft picks -- 10 over the next three years -- and have some very tempting young players, including stud-in-waiting Derrick Favors and point guard Devin Harris.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/nets...dT9sCGb1N?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=#ixzz0xuE4MQxF

So The Nets are still leading until someone beats the Favors offer as they said only thing that is going to beat that and their 10 draft picks is Blake.

I don't want Melo but he is making it known he wants to be a Net and for them to come and get him.



As I said about the Knicks Melo mess that up. If he really wanted to be a Knick he shouldn't have said he would sign the extension with the Nets

 

[killa kadafi191]

Gms and owners have no one to blame but themselves. They pass up opportunities and fuck up other opportunities to build around players.

Look at the article, this is the first time a superstar made a move in free agency in 10 years, the first time a top 3 player made a move in 14. And now owners panic. What kind of shit is that?

The raptors would have been better if they drafted better I'm 2006. Imagine Brandon Roy in Toronto with Chris Bosh. Same of the cavs.
You can't penalize a player who wants to win so much they take LESS money, to be constrained to a team that obviously can't make the necessary moves to improve a team.

And you can't take away the leverage a player has to force a team to get better, or trade them.

Imagine Lebron was stuck in Cleveland with that shitty supporting cast (vie always said the caves without Lebron are worse than the Knicks) and an incompetent front office.

I like Kevin Durant a lot, bt people comparing his actions to Lebron is foolish. lebron took his extension the way Durant did. No big fanfare. Also, look what they're doing in OKC. They drafted well with Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka. Made a move to get bigger with Cole Aldrich.

What have the cavs done? Exactly.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Say what you want but here is the truth.

The OWNERS are BILLIONAIRES who are entrepreneurs whom have used their skills/accumen to make money in a variety of business. Hence, if the OWNER decides to sell the team... the OWNER can continue to maintain his standard of living...investing in something else.

The players are millionaires who for the most part can ONLY make that level of income playing for the said OWNERS. If a player leaves the NBA they can't maintain their same standard of living doing something else.


So who has more power?


I expect to see:

The "Bird Rule" to now include a "Franchise TaG". with the stipulation that the FRANCHISE TAG means that you must pay that player at least an average of the 3 highest paid annul players at that position for the upcoming season. And that a team can't franchise the same player for consecutive years.

3 years of 5 year contracts to be "guaranteed"

4 years of 6 year contracts to be "guranteed"

 

[cli-terminator]

The only thing I'm in favor of is non-guaranteed contracts similar to the NFL. I'm tired of seeing players who sit on the bench injured more than the amount of games they actually play season after season after season. That shit fucks up the rest of the team cuz their money is tied down & leaves less flexibility. You go NBDL players who could step right in and do a great job but can't due to lack of money being taken by these other bum ass players.

The Jerome James & Eddy Currys & Luke Waltons of the league need to stop. If a player gets injured every season & doesn't seem to look like he'll be back anytime soon then a team should be able to let him go & retain some of their money so that they can seek alternate players to fill that void. Make the injured player earn a new contract instead of just sitting on his ass getting paid millions to be a cheerleader.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Teams like OKC don't bitch about being in a small market. They draft well and treat their players with respect. I am also for non garunteed contracts injured bums need to go. The franchise tag is wack though. A player should have the right to refuse the tag.

 

[AgentCreed]

dude is using other teams as leaverage, it seems he simply wants out of denver and wants the knicks if sent elsewhere he won't sign the extension

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...0100828/report_knicks_are_melos_first_choice/

the new nuggets gm looks like he's gonna hold on long as he can...

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...8/new_denver_gm_keeping_melo_my_top_priority/

nets/clippers are smoke and mirrors and if anyone one of them trades for him they might not be be able to sign him...would be fucked up for them but good for the knicks, we won't get gutted that way...

Mayo actually knows his time is up.

By Memphis committing to Gay basically was the nail in the coffin.

Actually before that. The Grizz try to trade him Mayo for the Warriors Ellis but the warriors turn him down.










As for Melo the times and everyone is reporting dude is all but ready to go toe Nets and Clippers as long as he gets his 65 million extension he is good.


Post your link.

The only new news regarding Melo is that the Wizards have made an offer hoping to get in it as well.



and he is the post



So The Nets are still leading until someone beats the Favors offer as they said only thing that is going to beat that and their 10 draft picks is Blake.

I don't want Melo but he is making it known he wants to be a Net and for them to come and get him.



As I said about the Knicks Melo mess that up. If he really wanted to be a Knick he shouldn't have said he would sign the extension with the Nets

 

[killa kadafi191]

Teams like OKC don't bitch about being in a small market. They draft well and treat their players with respect. I am also for non garunteed contracts injured bums need to go. The franchise tag is wack though. A player should have the right to refuse the tag.

So true.

OKC was an owner's wet dream.



I remember the Hornets owner did everything they could to try and get the Hornets relocated their.

OKC did such a good job with the Hornets Stern knew that they would be the next city to have a NBA team.

OKC is doing so good.

Name another team that goes from 20 wins to 50 plus in one year without any major moves or trades.

Kevin Durant showed his appreciation by signing a contract unheard of these days.

He sign a 6 year extension with no opt out early clause. He will be a thunder until 2016.

 

[killa kadafi191]

dude is using other teams as leaverage, it seems he simply wants out of denver and wants the knicks if sent elsewhere he won't sign the extension

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...0100828/report_knicks_are_melos_first_choice/

the new nuggets gm looks like he's gonna hold on long as he can...

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...8/new_denver_gm_keeping_melo_my_top_priority/

nets/clippers are smoke and mirrors and if anyone one of them trades for him they might not be be able to sign him...would be fucked up for them but good for the knicks, we won't get gutted that way...

The link doesn't says anything he will force a trade or will not resign with the team of his choice.

The Nets and Clippers are not smoke screen.

The Nets weren't even serious contenders until Melo's team made them contenders.

Same with Houston and Clippers.

Before then everyone said New York but as I been saying once Melo team let it be known.

Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix reports Carmelo Anthony may prefer New York, but he's open to signing a multi-year deal with either the Nets or the Rockets.

"Multiple league sources familiar with his situation told SI.com that Anthony would also be open to signing a long-term deal with Houston or New Jersey should either of those teams offer the Nuggets an acceptable trade package, Mannix reported Wednesday afternoon. He added, "In Denver, there is no urgency to make a deal quickly."

There's been mostly silence on the Nets' side of the river about any of this. Billy King says he won't talk about it all, can't actually because of tampering concerns. Others in the front office will only say, "we have a lot of offer".

Will the Nets make a call? Of course. A Knick official admits their best chance would come in free agency because if there's open bidding for the 6'9" forward, at least 22 teams will call. The likelihood is a lot of them will offer better assets than Eddy Curry, Danilo Gallinari and a 2014 first rounder.

Everyone is reporting the Nets as the leaders. I don't want him to come here and hopefully he won't but all likely hood is point yes.

The Nuggets realize they have to do the trade as soon as possible before Favors or Blake get on the court.

If anyone begins to show the potential or make an instant dent in the league. Teams will begin to lowball them.

They are comparing it how the Raptors waited too long to trade for VC as did the Nets. How they didn't get fair value.

I agree as many people are saying he wants out of Denver and the 65 million and he wants it so bad he is willing to sign the extension with Nets and Clippers.

The Knicks would be players but they have nothing the Nuggets want.

As I said Melo fucked the Knicks up.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

So true.

OKC was an owner's wet dream.



I remember the Hornets owner did everything they could to try and get the Hornets relocated their.

OKC did such a good job with the Hornets Stern knew that they would be the next city to have a NBA team.

OKC is doing so good.

Name another team that goes from 20 wins to 50 plus in one year without any major moves or trades.

Kevin Durant showed his appreciation by signing a contract unheard of these days.

He sign a 6 year extension with no opt out early clause. He will be a thunder until 2016.

I like what OKC is doing!

But they have done it through the draft. The test will come in a few years when they have to RESIGN everyone.

1. Jeff Green
2. James Harden
3. Serge Ibaka
4. Russell Westbrook
5. Eric Maynor
6. Nick Collison
7. Daequan Cook
8. Mo Pete
9. Nenad Krstic

All of these dudes contracts are UP AT THE END OF THE SEASON.

So the 2011-2012 Season could LOOK VERY UGLY for OKC unless they are able to resign the KEY PLAYERS... which they probably will not be able to.

Then you have to try and convince a free agent or two to come to OKC... which is NOT EASY to do.