My Anti-Clinton Article Thread

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First a disclosure. I formerly supported Bill. His latest shenanigans, not the least of which was playing the race card in a manner offensive to this former supporter, have caused me to change my position. It is now my sworn duty to ensure that the Clintons do not regain the White House, hopefully by helping to put Barack Obama in it.

To that end, I am going to start a repository of articles that are relevant to the position that I have with respect to the primary race. Argue, flame, ignore, whatever- all I ask is that you stay the fuck out if you really have a problem with this stuff. I am not trying to be even-handed here, although I will not support or post anything that I know, or have reason to believe is untrue about the Clintons.

My first submission is:

"Slick Willie Rides Again"

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=274075
 
Thanks Counselor. I shall take a seat in the box and enjoy the presentation.

QueEx
 
Why thank You Counselor. Took me a while, but I found my way home. Thanks for giving me a place to just plain vent.

This next one is a repost i think, but this is a better place for it than wherever I put it last time.

"Hillary's "Experience" Lie"
http://www.slate.com/id/2182073/
 
The reason that I am so angry is that nothing pisses off this Black Man more than finding out that someone who I thought was cool has been playing me for years. Like finding out that a white friend has been routinely referring to you as a n****r behind your back for years. But silly me, what did I expect?

Clintons leave no fingerprints
The couple have skillfully steered the nomination campaign toward race



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22827660/
 
This is taken from the main board (credit to INVICTUS3RD), and discusses some apparently uncorroborated info about Hillary's descriptions of certain minorities. I didn't say there was no evidence that it is true, just that it appears to be uncorroborated. Seems consistent with her recent behavior to me.

Anyway, if someone convinces me that this is patently untrue, I will erase the post. Until then, meet the real Hillary.

http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/clintons.html
 
Billy Boy and Hillary are going to wake up one morning and realize: They asked for it.
[walking back over to the jury box to take my seat; continue Counselor]

QueEx
 
Probably, you won't get much negative attention here, brotha Clinton filled alot of bank accounts and pockets with easy money, some folks are looking for x'2, but it would be a whole different ballgame with Mr. as the right hand man, instead of at the helm...
 
Ok fam. This one is a treat for the bruhs that don't care to read a bunch of stuff- you can listen to this one.

National Public Radio (NPR) is largely made up of Hillary apologists. Even so, the ladies couldn't quite reconcile Hillary's claim of public service with a resume that includes about 20 years with a corporate law firm.

But give her some credit-she once defended a company that sold a can of beans to a customer. Everything was cool till the customer opened the can and was greeted by the hind quarters of a rat.

So I guess she gave a rat's ass about a citizen?

Sorry. I figured that since I held back on the Monica joke because Hillary's mouth couldn't melt butter...ah fuck it.

Listen up.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18391632
 
interesting stuff. so if clinton won the nom, you wouldn't vote for her?



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[interesting stuff. so if clinton won the nom, you wouldn't vote for her?]



No, I would not.
 
Hey Queex-did you know that Miss Braniac FAILED THE DC BAR?

You know what i'm thinking- if that was a bruh.......

This article provides other insights about her resume.


DICK MORRIS’ ANALYSIS OF BILL CLINTON’S BIO ABOUT HILLARY—


Just in case you might have missed Dick Morris' comments regarding Hillary's biography. Remember guys that this man was Bill Clinton's primary and closest adviser for years and was felt to be the primary reason for Clinton's political success. I truly see her as a threat to our national security


Fabian

DICK MORRIS' '08 PLAY-BY-PLAY ANALYSIS!

BILL CLINTON LEAVES TRUTH OUT OF HILLARY'S BIOGRAPHY
Go to www.hillaryclintoncom<http://www.hillaryclinton.com/ and check out Bill Clinton's syrupy five minute ad for Hillary. He introduces the commercial by saying that he wants to share some things we may not know about Hillary's background. His version of her biography is about as reliable as if it appeared in Pravda!
So, I wanted to make a few corrections;

Bill says: Hillary never wanted to run for public office, but she did want to work at public service.

The facts are: When Clinton was considering not running for another term as Governor of Arkansas in 1990, Hillary said she would run if he didn't. She and Bill even had me take two surveys to assess her chances of winning. The conclusion was that she couldn't win because people would just see her as a seat warmer for when Bill came back licking his wounds after losing for president. So she didn't run. Bill did and won. But there is no question she had her eye on public office, as opposed to service, long ago.

Bill says: In law school Hillary worked on legal services for the poor.

The facts are: Hillary's main extra-curricular activity in law school
was helping the Black Panthers, on trial in Connecticut for torturing
and killing a federal agent. She went to court every day as part of a
law student monitoring committee trying to spot civil rights violations
and develop grounds for appeal.

Bill says: Hillary spent a year after graduation working on a children's rights project for poor kids.

The facts are: Hillary interned with Bob Truehaft, the head of the California Communist Party. She met Bob when he represented the Panthers and traveled all the way to San Francisco to take an internship with him.

Bill says: Hillary could have written her own job ticket, but she turned down all the lucrative job offers.

The facts are: She flunked the DC bar exam and only passed the Arkansas bar. She had no job offers in Arkansas and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She only joined the prestigious Rose Law Firm after Bill became Attorney General and made partner only after he was elected governor.

Bill says: President Carter appointed Hillary to the Legal Services Board of Directors and she became its chairman.

The facts are: The appointment was in exchange for Bill's support for Carter in his 1980 primary against Ted Kennedy. Hillary became chairman in a coup in which she won a majority away from Carter's choice to be chairman.

Bill says: She served on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital.

The facts are: Yes she did. But her main board activity, not mentioned by Bill, was to sit on the Walmart board of directors, for a substantial fee. She was silent about their labor and health care practices.

Bill says: Hillary didn't succeed at getting health care for all Americans in 1994 but she kept working at it and helped to create the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) that provides five million children with health insurance.

The facts are: Hillary had nothing to do with creating CHIP. It was included in the budget deal between Clinton and Republican Majority Leader Senator Trent Lott. I helped to negotiate the deal. The money came half from the budget deal and half from the Attorney Generals' tobacco settlement. Hillary had nothing to do with either source of funds.

Bill says: Hillary was the face of America all over the world.

The facts are: Her visits were part of a program to get her out of town so that Bill would not appear weak by feeding stories that Hillary was running the White House. Her visits abroad were entirely touristic and symbolic and there was no substantive diplomacy on any of them

Bill says: Hillary was an excellent Senator who kept fighting for children's and women's issues.

The facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One set up a national park in Puerto Rico. A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer's or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 9-11 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire NY delegation.

Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton. She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our country when it comes to the war on terror.

1. She wants to close GITMO & move the combatants to the USA where
they would have access to our legal system.

2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qeada phone calls to/from the USA.

3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.

4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qeada cells & supporters In the USA.

5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists even though such tactics might save American lives.


Dick Morris states:

I can't think of a single bill Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our country in the War on Terror. But, I can think of a lot of comments she has made that weakens our country & makes it a more dangerous situation for all of us........She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned. She is a disaster for all Americans.
 
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This article takes the position that the Clinton's are suffering a huge backlash for their behavior- and that Obama's true audacity is almost too radical to believe.

Make no mistake: What happened in South Carolina today was a moral reprimand delivered to Bill and Hillary Clinton by a united Democratic Party--but especially by the African-American segment of that party.



http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/01/tonight_in_south_carolina.html
 
Counselor,

No, I didn't know that Hillary had failed the D.C. bar. I am a bit surprised, however, that it has not been mentioned more prominently in her past campaigns. As you pointed out, if that had been a bruh, more particularly had it been Barack Obama, we would all have heard by now about his lack of intellectual prowess.

I did find it odd that Bill and Hillary graduated law school in 73 and that both went on to teach at the University of Arkansas School of Law, Bill in 73 and Hillary in 74. Odd, I thought, that the Univ. of Arkansas would be so eager to hire two wet-behind-the-ears graduates with no experience and one having just failed a bar exam en route to Arkansas.

BTW, that article from Slate is on all fours.

QueEx
 
January 29, 2008
The Clintons' Worn-Out Race Card
By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON -- Playing the race card against Barack Obama didn't work out quite the way Bill Clinton had hoped. Neither did a reported last-minute personal appeal to keep Ted Kennedy, venerable guardian of the Camelot flame, from joining the Obama crusade. The question now is whether the Clintons understand how the country they seek to lead -- and, regrettably, I do mean "they" -- has changed.

I wonder how all the Clintonistas who protested that Bill and Hillary would never, ever dream of stooping to racial politics must be feeling now, after Bill was videotaped in the act. On Saturday, as Democrats in South Carolina went to the polls, a reporter asked Bill about Obama's boast that it took two Clintons to try to beat him. Bill replied: "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here."

Now, the question had nothing to do with Jesse Jackson. So why do you suppose such an expert on American politics as Bill Clinton, with no prompting, would bring up contests that took place decades ago -- back when South Carolina picked its convention delegates in caucuses, not primaries? John Edwards' victory four years ago, in a primary, would have been much more relevant; he ran a good campaign, too.

The only possible reason for invoking Jackson's name was to telegraph the following message: Barack Obama is black, so if a lot of black people decide to vote for him -- doubtless out of racial solidarity -- it doesn't really mean squat.

And the reasons to send that message would be to devalue an Obama victory in South Carolina; to inoculate the Clinton campaign against potential losses in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee -- Southern states with large African-American populations -- next Tuesday; and, most important, to pigeonhole Obama as "a black candidate" as opposed to "a candidate who, among other characteristics, is black."

That would help Hillary Clinton in other states, because the more prominent race becomes in this campaign, the more likely it is that she will win the nomination. They don't call us a "minority" for nothing.

But a funny thing happened in South Carolina. Clinton didn't lose by 10 or 12 points, as most polls had predicted; it was a 28-point blowout, with Obama more than doubling her vote. Yes, he took 78 percent of the black vote, according to the exit polling, and she beat him among white voters, 36 percent to 24 percent. But if you look more closely, Clinton and Obama were practically tied among white men, 28 percent to 27 percent. Clinton's advantage among whites came from women.

If Obama wanted to take a page from the "identity politics" playbook of the 1990s, he could try to hang the "female candidate" label around Clinton's neck.

He won't, though, because the Obama campaign is well aware that identity politics is a fatal trap. In his victory speech Saturday night, Obama went back to his focus on tearing down barriers rather than reinforcing them. On his way to the rhetorical mountaintop, however, he paused to note that the "status quo is fighting back with everything it's got; with the same old tactics that divide and distract us from solving the problems people face."

Oh, and he threw in a line about people who would "say anything and do anything to win an election." No, he didn't mention the Clintons by name.

It pains me to refer to the Clintons in the plural, since Hillary's campaign is indeed a historic milestone. But after South Carolina, it's hard to claim that this candidacy is entirely about her. At the very least, it's about them -- and if you listen to Bill's speeches, you get the distinct impression that he thinks it's all about him. Does anyone believe his sense of entitlement will somehow dissipate if the Clintons move back into the White House?

The Clintons are a remarkably successful political partnership, and Hillary Clinton still has to be considered the favorite to win the nomination. Yet they can't have anticipated that Kennedy would defect, or that other Democratic Party grandees would complain so loudly about their tactics -- or that Nobel laureate Toni Morrison, who called Bill the "first black president," would endorse Obama.

The Clintons are running the kind of campaign they know how to run. But there are signs that the country has changed -- that it's less concerned about identity than character, more interested in commonality than difference, hungrier for inspiration than triangulation.

If, as Obama said Saturday night, "this election is about the past versus the future," the Clintons are in for more rude surprises.
eugenerobinson@washpost.com

Copyright 2008, Washington Post Writers Group
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An interesting opinion here. This writer seems to agree with the observations that many of us have been making.




January 31, 2008
A Longer Race Benefits Obama
By David Broder

WASHINGTON -- Heading into Tuesday's unprecedented day of voting in nearly two dozen states, a degree of order is finally emerging in the dramatic races for the presidential nominations of both parties.

Public opinion and leadership support are finding their way to the same destinations, pointing to a clear favorite and a single viable alternative in each race.

John McCain has the easiest path remaining to the Republican nomination, with Mitt Romney needing some kind of dramatic breakthrough Tuesday to keep his hopes of an upset alive.

On the Democratic side, the battle is more even, but the advantage has shifted back to Barack Obama -- thanks to a growing but largely unremarked tendency among Democratic leaders to reject Hillary Clinton and her husband, the former president.

The New York senator could still emerge from the "Tsunami Tuesday" voting with the overall lead in delegates, but she is unlikely to be able to come close to clinching the nomination. And the longer the race goes on, the better the chances that Obama will ultimately prevail, as more elected Democratic officials and candidates come to view him as the better bet to defeat McCain in November.

As the race has moved from contests in small states such as Iowa and New Hampshire to the national dimension of Tuesday's voting, the role of the endorsements and leadership testimonials has increased. The candidates simply lack the time and resources to make personal appeals to very many voters.

Had McCain not invested that personal time in New Hampshire, with more than 100 town meetings where he argued for the correctness of his views on the Iraq War, he could not have reversed the summertime disaster that overtook his campaign, when he ran out of money and lost most of his senior staff.

But after turning back Romney in New Hampshire, the Arizona senator picked up significant establishment backing in South Carolina and Florida -- the hard-core Republican states where he had to show his credentials. He campaigned in South Carolina flanked by Tom Coburn and Jack Kemp, icons of social and fiscal conservatism, and won Florida thanks to last-minute endorsements from Gov. Charlie Crist and Sen. Mel Martinez.

Now, with defeated Rudy Giuliani adding his voice to the chorus of endorsements, and with Mike Huckabee remaining in the race to challenge Romney from the religious right, McCain appears poised to lock up the nomination.

Unelected conservative ideologues -- Rush Limbaugh and George Will -- can mutter in frustration, but Republican politicians recognize what was written here as long ago as last Dec. 2: "If the Republican Party really wanted to hold on to the White House in 2009 ... it would grit its teeth, swallow its doubts and nominate a ticket of John McCain for president and Mike Huckabee for vice president -- and president-in-waiting."

The Democratic race remains harder to handicap, in part because Clinton already has demonstrated her resilience by fighting uphill battles to prevail in New Hampshire and Nevada and because she retains formidable alliances and organizational strengths.

But the last two weeks have seen a remarkable shift of establishment opinion against her and against the prospect of placing the party's 2008 chances in the hands of her husband, Bill Clinton.

The prominence of his role in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and the mean-spiritedness of his attacks on Obama, stunned many Democrats. Clinton's behavior underlined the warning raised in this column before Iowa, by a prominent veteran of the Clinton administration, that the prospect of two presidents both named Clinton sharing a single White House would be a huge problem for the Democrats in November if she is the nominee.

The negatives on the Clintons have brought much support to Obama, most notably that of Ted Kennedy, the most prestigious figure in the Democratic establishment in Washington. But it is also Obama's own appeal that is being talked about across the country from Massachusetts to Arizona by the younger generation of governors, senators and representatives who share with him an eagerness to "turn the page" on the battles of the past.

Obama is not inevitable, but the longer the race continues, the greater that hunger. And the growing recognition of McCain's appeal to independents also works in Obama's favor.
davidbroder@washpost.com

Copyright 2008, Washington Post Writers Group
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Clinton co-chair took checks from Rezko
Donations from 2001 and 2003 called long before any issues became public

The Associated Press
updated 6:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 1, 2008

LOS ANGELES - Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a national co-chair of Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, banked at least $7,500 in political donations linked to an indicted Chicago businessman whose past connections to Barack Obama have been used by Clinton to criticize her rival.

City records show Antoin Rezko, idenfitied as chairman of Rezmar Corp. of Chicago, contributed $1,000 to Villaraigosa's mayoral campaign in May 2001. Those records show Rezko also donated $500 to another Villaraigosa political committee in March 2003.

Records show Villaraigosa received at least another $6,000 from people or businesses with connections to Rezko.

Asked to confirm whether the mayor received donations from Rezko, spokesman Sean Clegg said "the contributions are currently under review."

Clegg said Villaraigosa doesn't know Rezko and was unaware whether Rezko or any of his companies were doing business with the city, or bidding on city contracts.

"The contributions from 2001 and 2003 were long before any issues related to Tony Rezko became public," Clegg said.

The donations could prove to be a political embarrassment for Clinton, who accused Obama in a South Carolina debate of representing Rezko "in his slum landlord business" when Obama was a young Chicago lawyer.

Rezko has been a patron of Illinois politicians for years and Obama's connections to Rezko go back more than 15 years. Rezko has contributed thousands of dollars to the campaigns of both Obama and Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Neither has been accused of any wrongdoing.

Obama's campaign has given to charity nearly $150,000 in contributions received by Obama's House, Senate and presidential campaigns that came from Rezko, his employees, his associates and his family.

Obama represented partners of Rezko's company in government-subsidized apartment rehabilitation projects, not Rezko himself. Obama says he did no more than five or six hours of work for the partners.
 
Good one Counselor. Whats that old saying about stones and glass houses . . .

QueEx
 
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