Music Debate: Joe Budden & Skillz explain their TOP 5 WORST Rappers, AGREE??

[richlove]

cappadonna was a cab driver for a minute...

and when I worked in social services I had to find housing for his baby moms...

I have always said the same about Pac whenever Biggie comparisons were made.

Pac was one of the most influential controversial and intelligent rappers EVER...

But his vocal range delivery(meaning ENEMIESSSSSS/HENESYYYYYYY) and lyrics were average...

But on stage and when he hit your heart DAMN!!!

I don't know why people say shit like this...my guess is because they only listened to him when he blew up and didn't really know his music and Pac claimed the west coast..if he would have claimed the east (where he was born), people would have said he was one of the goats. nigga had several flows and put words together extremely well

this ain't average

Blast me but they didn't finish,
didn't diminish, my powers
so now I'm back to be a motherfuckin menace, they cowards
That's why they tried to set me up
Had bitch-ass niggaz on my team, so indeed, they wet me up
But I'm back reincarnated, incarcerated
At the time I contemplate the way that God made it
Lace em with lyrics that's legendary, musical mercenary
For money, I'll have these motherfuckers buried


Young black male
I try to effect by kicking the facts
And stacking much mail
I'm packing a gat cuz guys wanna jack
And fuck goin to jail
Cuz I ain't a crook, despite how I look
I don't sell ya-yo
They judging a brother like covers on books
Follow me into a flow
I'm sure you know, which way to go
I'm hittin em out of the dopes
So slip on the slope, let's skip on the flow
I'm fuckin the sluts and hoes
The bigger the butts the tighter the clothes
The gimminy jimminy grows
Then whaddya know, it's off with some clothes
Rowd when the crowd says ho
That let's me know, they know I can flow
Love when they come to my shows
I get up and go, with skins before
When I'm collecting my dough
I never respect, the one that I back
The quicker the nigga can rap
The bigger the check, now watch how they sweat
What kind of style is that?
The style of a mack, and ready to jack
I rendered up piles of black
The wacker the pack, the fatter the smack
I hate it when real nigga bust
They hate when I cuss, they threaten to bust
I had enough of the fuss
I bust what I bust, and cuss when I must
They gave me a charge for sales
For selling the tales... of young black males

 

[xxironxx]

How 2 irrelevant niggaz put out a list like this.

 

[NinjaspiT]

damnnnnn this is dope drops! Never heard of this before so PROPS!

 

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so all they telling us is pac fucked salt a couple times while hanging with treach lol

 

[playahaitian]

I don't know why people say shit like this...my guess is because they only listened to him when he blew up and didn't really know his music and Pac claimed the west coast..if he would have claimed the east (where he was born), people would have said he was one of the goats. nigga had several flows and put words together extremely well

this ain't average

Blast me but they didn't finish,
didn't diminish, my powers
so now I'm back to be a motherfuckin menace, they cowards
That's why they tried to set me up
Had bitch-ass niggaz on my team, so indeed, they wet me up
But I'm back reincarnated, incarcerated
At the time I contemplate the way that God made it
Lace em with lyrics that's legendary, musical mercenary
For money, I'll have these motherfuckers buried


Young black male
I try to effect by kicking the facts
And stacking much mail
I'm packing a gat cuz guys wanna jack
And fuck goin to jail
Cuz I ain't a crook, despite how I look
I don't sell ya-yo
They judging a brother like covers on books
Follow me into a flow
I'm sure you know, which way to go
I'm hittin em out of the dopes
So slip on the slope, let's skip on the flow
I'm fuckin the sluts and hoes
The bigger the butts the tighter the clothes
The gimminy jimminy grows
Then whaddya know, it's off with some clothes
Rowd when the crowd says ho
That let's me know, they know I can flow
Love when they come to my shows
I get up and go, with skins before
When I'm collecting my dough
I never respect, the one that I back
The quicker the nigga can rap
The bigger the check, now watch how they sweat
What kind of style is that?
The style of a mack, and ready to jack
I rendered up piles of black
The wacker the pack, the fatter the smack
I hate it when real nigga bust
They hate when I cuss, they threaten to bust
I had enough of the fuss
I bust what I bust, and cuss when I must
They gave me a charge for sales
For selling the tales... of young black males

your right I shouldn't say his lyrics were average...

my bad.

SIMPLE is a better description...

which is NOT a dis in any way cause dude was a poet not polysyllabic or layered...

dude aint writing no Wu Tang Triumph Inspector Deck verse...

but that does not in any way diminish his talent and brilliance.

but Rakim and them set a MC standard.

 

[playahaitian]

so all they telling us is pac fucked salt a couple times while hanging with treach lol

basically

 

[HotNixon36]

U God is definitely weak, I only know two verses where he really shined.





add Dr. Dre, Trick Daddy, Sadat X, and Young Buck.

 

[playahaitian]

U God is definitely weak, I only know two verses where he really shined.


add Dr. Dre, Trick Daddy, Sadat X, and Young Buck.

you gotta give UGod this one...

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I;ll be back to defend Sadat, Buck and Trick tomorrow...

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

Birdman - like has he ever switched up the flow? Nigga been rapping the same verse for the last 15 years. Just re-arranged the words. Never had a hot verse in his career.

Tony Yayo, Chingy, Mike Jones

and I'm sorry, Timbaland. Great producer, but I hated when he rapped.

 

[bigman23]

chief keef
oj juice man

 

[oolong tea]

How is tupac weak? He had bomb ass songwriting skills. People spouting lyricism today misunderstood the god Rakim. Tupac wrote for the people. 50 cent writes for the people. RZA aint spit and writes for the eccentric folk. Ghost is Nas on LSD.

 

[Bru-Ti-Kus]

keak da sneak
lil b
birdman
too short
oj da juiceman

 

[avantastic]

Mr. Serv-On all time wackest and right now French Montana the wack king

 

[durham]

E40 is top ten wackiest ever.

wow, now that's taking yourself out of any reputable discussions about hip hop history

I would think someone would say maaaaaybe too short couldn't rap (I certainly dont agree), but just saying maybe someone doesnt like west coast rap music...hey it happens

but half the shit mc's used as slang or what they now call swag, was stolen from E40, during the 90's

to call E40 wack, is


and Sadat X is wack,wtf? did no one ever go back and listen to the first Brand Nubian Album?? 1-9-9-9


is every hip hop fan on this board fucking 12 or something

 

[unknownsoldier]

Silk da Shocka is my alltime worst rapper. I get a headache thinking about my top 5 worst rappers.....

I gotta agree silk the shocker the worst lol

Birdman - like has he ever switched up the flow? Nigga been rapping the same verse for the last 15 years. Just re-arranged the words. Never had a hot verse in his career.

He was better as a "game spitta", back when he was just Baby or "Beatrice"

 

[REDLINE]

U God is definitely weak, I only know two verses where he really shined.

add Dr. Dre, Trick Daddy, Sadat X, and Young Buck.

I'll give you U God because he's the only one from the Wu that I never wanted to hear!

But Trick, Sadat and Young Buck? Listen to Sadat's Wild Cowboys shit or even his verses with Brand Nubian. You may not like Buck and Trick but they're not wack. I know it's all opinion based but most would say they weren't wack.

keak da sneak
lil b
birdman
too short
oj da juiceman

I can give you OJ & Lil B but Too Short isn't wack. You may not like his flow or his style but he's not wack.





Also Baby's a game spitter and not really a rapper, hell #1 Stunna's my shit!

 

[bborn]

peace

He used to beat off to lil Kim pussy pose poster...
He must be a BGOL Member

No Joke, that L. Boogie phone number one is actually a really cool story!!!
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To my understanding, L Boog was out like that
Knew a wild fat, grimey rap kat that had her math.

Like that 1st kat, neva copped any J's & the only ones I had were them Black with purple & orange sole portions ones that my man hit me with back then.

Fuck their list with all this wackness about

@

K was probably passed out after blazing, fucking with some chick while the flick was on when it was like that.

This is more like wtf Im talking about

My list *CORRECTION*
1. Lil B
2. Silkk da Shocker
3. V-Nasty
4. OJ da Juiceman
5. Soulja Boy

Some C-Murder, JimJones, CrunchyBlack, Yayo but I could listen to Jones & PaulWall, God Damnit, but the rest of them
COMBINED they^^^^ aint never spit anything like what GoldenArms did here

wow, now that's taking yourself out of any reputable discussions about hip hop history

I would think someone would say maaaaaybe too short couldn't rap (I certainly dont agree), but just saying maybe someone doesnt like west coast rap music...hey it happens

but half the shit mc's used as slang or what they now call swag, was stolen from E40, during the 90's

to call E40 wack, is



and Sadat X is wack,wtf? did no one ever go back and listen to the first Brand Nubian Album?? 1-9-9-9


is every hip hop fan on this board fucking 12 or something

This niggas smoking dust dipped in crackwater & that potpourri fake meth weed with sprinkled bath salts.

Not even worth arguing about







Too much wackjuice flowing to capture all these characters in just one list.

Mr. Serv-On all time wackest and right now French Montana the wack king

Precisely
The Don of that Shit

peace

 

[furlough]

Yall defending U-Who?



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[Diamels]

It's impossible to pick the Top 5 worst rappers. Too many nominees.

 

[Yogi Bear]

YOU ARE NOT SAYING E-40 is WACK????

Biggie was right.

 

[Daddy43205]

young berg got more hits and written hits in his catagory over joe buddens.....

 

[cozmic33]

young berg got more hits and written hits in his catagory over joe buddens.....

yea but who is the better rapper though? we are talking about lyrical ability, delivery, presence, style, voice, etc,.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Obviously you idiots dont listen to lyrics and just hear his voice, 40 is far from wack.

 

[DAT DUDE DERE]

Kool Keith....is the worst rapper of all times

 

[Dr. Truth]

Kool Keith....is the worst rapper of all times

The fuck get the fuck outta here ultra magnetic are legends.

 

[DAT DUDE DERE]

The fuck get the fuck outta here ultra magnetic are legends.

... just trying to see if you niggas are sleeping

 

[Dr. Truth]

Biggie was right.

I love big but he was wrong and he got ran up on for running his mouth. 40 water got mad goons and is one of the realest rappers out there. All these other clown ass niggas talk about shit he did.

 

[heavyhand]

Cappa can't be on any worst rapper list thanks to his winter warz verse that shit was god tier

 

[cozmic33]

Obviously you idiots dont listen to lyrics and just hear his voice, 40 is far from wack.

All three discs on his new album go hard. Now that I think about it I'm about to play it right now

 

[BIGGSARGE]

1. Lil Wayne
2. Lil Boosie
3. Plies
4. Silk the Shocker
5. Souja Boy

 

[Daddy43205]

yea but who is the better rapper though? we are talking about lyrical ability, delivery, presence, style, voice, etc,.

joe buddens of course but young berg aint bad in my opinion i dont see how he could be metioned as somebody worst 5 i think they said that cause he soft aint he wont say shyt back same with soulja boy and romeo.all the artist they named are irrelevant.

 

[c_commander]

Why they half stepping? A bad lyricist can't be a great writer or number #1.

My list *CORRECTION*
1. Lil B
2. Silkk da Shocker
3. V-Nasty
4. OJ da Juiceman
5. Soulja Boy

Why can't they be? They're saying as far as metaphors and punch lines go Pac wasn't memorable but he could craft a story and make rhymes with emotional weight.

1. Lil B
2. Future
3. Waka Flocka
4. Soulja Boy
5. Baby

 

[UltimateLurker]

YOU ARE NOT SAYING E-40 is WACK????

helllllll YES!

I'm saying that shit as well

 

[Alaskanredman]

Why can't they be? They're saying as far as metaphors and punch lines go Pac wasn't memorable but he could craft a story and make rhymes with emotional weight.

Without those literary tools, you are basically just making catchy music. I agree with anyone who is honest and says it is about Pac's performance... not the writing.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Silkk the Shocker
Greg Nice
Magoo
Ms. Melody (RIP)
Pras