Most under and overrated players in NBA history?

They were loaded everywhere but where it counted back then... the middle. Boston had Parrish, LA had Kareem. Were they supposed to win with Caldwell Jones?

No, but fo, fo, fo Malone carried that squad. like he did the Rockets.
 
George McGinnis. Rab, you're smoking crack. :smh:
edit: First three years, george was gone in 80

there was plenty going on behind the scenes with that squad, and chucker doug collins was at the center of it.

his bitch made ego didn't like the fact that he was losing FGAs to julius erving and destroyed team chemistry in order to try and preserve his one claim to fame: ridiculous chucking.

julius erving brought the franchise success IN SPITE OF, NOT because of "help" from doug collins.
 
I know Atlanta fans remember this guy...

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They were loaded everywhere but where it counted back then... the middle. Boston had Parrish, LA had Kareem. Were they supposed to win with Caldwell Jones?

I guess they should've, if Erving was so great. Fact is sometimes you just run out of gas or run into a juggernaut. Same way you couldn't expect Nash in '04-'05 to lead a resurgent Phoenix past a monster San Antonio team. They went as far as they could go with their one-year turnaround.
 
They were loaded everywhere but where it counted back then... the middle. Boston had Parrish, LA had Kareem. Were they supposed to win with Caldwell Jones?

there was NO 76ers team prior to moses malone that one could suggest was "loaded".

they had good pieces at different times.

maurice cheeks is my favorite PG of all time, but to suggest he was a great offensive talent is laughable.

bobby jones' calling card was DEFENSE, NOT offense.

henry bibby as a 76er? steve mix as a 76er? lionel hollins as a 76er? did any of those dudes ever average 15 ppg as a 76er?

where is all this IMAGINED offensive talent?

y'all took the bait AND drank the kool-aid. don't follow a non-fan down that road.
 
there was plenty going on behind the scenes with that squad, and chucker doug collins was at the center of it.

his bitch made ego didn't like the fact that he was losing FGAs to julius erving and destroyed team chemistry in order to try and preserve his one claim to fame: ridiculous chucking.

julius erving brought the franchise success IN SPITE OF, NOT because of "help" from doug collins.

Ok, i was only 12 during the 77 playoffs, so i take your word for that
 
there was NO 76ers team prior to moses malone that one could suggest was "loaded".

They weren't???

maurice cheeks is my favorite PG of all time, but to suggest he was a great offensive talent is laughable.

Who said he was???

bobby jones' calling card was DEFENSE, NOT offense.

Right, and he was also a great shooter. But who says you can't be LOADED defensively??

henry bibby as a 76er? steve mix as a 76er? lionel hollins as a 76er? did any of those dudes ever average 15 ppg as a 76er?

You're complaining about BALANCED scoring??? Do you question their talents???

where is all this IMAGINED offensive talent.

McGinnis, Free and Erving all averaged in the 20 PPG range, with Collins not far behind.
 
there was NO 76ers team prior to moses malone that one could suggest was "loaded".

they had good pieces at different times.

maurice cheeks is my favorite PG of all time, but to suggest he was a great offensive talent is laughable.

bobby jones' calling card was DEFENSE, NOT offense.

henry bibby as a 76er? steve mix as a 76er? lionel hollins as a 76er? did any of those dudes ever average 15 ppg as a 76er?

where is all this IMAGINED offensive talent?

y'all took the bait AND drank the kool-aid. don't follow a non-fan down that road.

Bullshit!! http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1977.html

Also, this team was also loaded with a Doug Collins who had a better shooting percentage than the Doctor. http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1978.html
 
McGinnis, Free and Erving all averaged in the 20 PPG range, with Collins not far behind.

neither george mcginnis, nor world b free EVER averaged 20 ppg in the playoffs with the 76ers while having julius erving as a teammate.

julius erving carried the 76ers on his back every season. it was moses malone that put the franchise over the hump.

chucker doug collins may have averaged 20 ppg (or more) ONCE, but it was only a function of his jealousy and false pride.

ever wonder how they lost 4 straight?
 
Bullshit!!

if you're going to use that website as a crutch (instead of actual memory), at least use it correctly.

you said you watched that NBA finals.

here's the starting 5 philadelphia put on the floor that post-season:

henry bibby
doug collins
julius erving
george mcginnis
caldwell jones

:rolleyes:

loaded for sure, right?
 
neither george mcginnis, nor world b free EVER averaged 20 ppg in the playoffs with the 76ers while having julius erving as a teammate.

Who said anything about the playoffs? You talked about Erving getting them there all alone.

julius erving carried the 76ers on his back every season. it was moses malone that put the franchise over the hump.

Right, after the gunners McGinnis and Free left all they did was put together a fine defensive team that had only 6 or 7 men average double-figures for the season and shoot lights-out every night. Jones, Mix, and Cheeks were fabulous (if modest) shooters. Shit, Mix averaged 11 PPG in just 19 MPG one year. Toney was no slouch either. They spread the points around. Erving had a FABULOUS team behind him before Moses arrived.
 
Who said anything about the playoffs? You talked about Erving getting them there all alone.

why try to put words in my mouth?

i wrote that julius erving carried the 76ers to the NBA finals 4 out of 7 seasons.

the NBA finals are the culmination of the POST season, not the REGULAR season.
 
if you're going to use that website as a crutch (instead of actual memory), at least use it correctly.

you said you watched that NBA finals.

here's the starting 5 philadelphia put on the floor that post-season:

henry bibby
doug collins
julius erving
george mcginnis
caldwell jones

:rolleyes:

loaded for sure, right?

Yep. Loaded with three 20 point ninjas.

Statistically better than the subsequent champions. :lol::lol:
 
I am only a Knick fan because of Bernard King. I the Knicks put a team around him he had a way better chance of winning a Championship than Patrick Ewing. For him not to be in the top 50 is a crime; he dropped 50 on atleast ten fools in the top 50,including Byrd and Mchale On back to back nights. Scotty Pippin is my most overrated; that fool was just a sidekick.
 
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here's the starting 5 philadelphia put on the floor that post-season:

henry bibby
doug collins
julius erving
george mcginnis
caldwell jones
loaded for sure, right?

3 All-star quality starters (with a MONSTER bench).
 
Yep. Loaded with three 20 point ninjas.

Statistically better than the subsequent champions. :lol::lol:
your math is bad.

george mcginnis wasn't a 20 ppg man in the post-season with julius erving. he didn't need to be.

george mcginnis and julius erving were on the same page. george mcginnis was going to own the glass, and he was going to let julius erving go to work. but chucker doug collins got his panties in a twist and wasn't OK with that formula. he didn't want to fit in, he wanted to be the man.

so he upset the game plan and sent the 76ers into a 2 year funk while watching the 76ers become julius erving's team.
 
Yep. Loaded with three 20 point ninjas.

Statistically better than the subsequent champions. :lol::lol:

McGinnis only scored 20 a game once when he was with the sixers in the playoffs and not the year they went to the finals. it was 14 a game then.
 
the NBA finals are the culmination of the POST season, not the REGULAR season.

They're obviously both. :rolleyes:

The playoffs are just a brief sample of a particular season. We're talking about the overall product and Erving's OVERALL career, including all of his regular seasons.

The playoff results are AFTER the fact. We're talking about the quality of personnel during the year and going into the playoffs, and not how they happened to be used and how they performed in a few short series.
 
3 All-star quality starters (with a MONSTER bench).

i see. all stars now.

and that monster bench was basically a 3 man rotation of steve mix, darryl dawkins and world b free.

did any of those guys get 10 minutes a game in the post season?

:smh:
 
What 3 all stars ...

What a dope.

Obviously, McGinnis (21.4 PPG), Erving (21.6 PPG) and Collins (18.3 PPG).

,,, and who was on this "monster" bench, Harvet Catchings? You can not be serious

How about World B. Free (16.3 PPG), Steve Mix (10.5 PPG), and Fred Carter (6.9 PPG), not to mention Darryl Dawkins (5 PPG and 4 RPG in 11 MPG)?
 
What a dope.

Obviously, McGinnis (21.4 PPG), Erving (21.6 PPG) and Collins (18.3 PPG).



How about World B. Free (16.3 PPG), Steve Mix (10.5 PPG), and Fred Carter (6.9 PPG), not to mention Darryl Dawkins (5 PPG and 4 RPG in 11 MPG)?

If you are arguing against Doc, you can't turn around and use him in your argument... DOPE! and all that adds up to only 38.7 points a game!
 
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What a dope.

Obviously, McGinnis (21.4 PPG), Erving (21.6 PPG) and Collins (18.3 PPG).



How about World B. Free (16.3 PPG), Steve Mix (10.5 PPG), and Fred Carter (6.9 PPG), not to mention Darryl Dawkins (5 PPG and 4 RPG in 11 MPG)?



Fred Carter and a kid straight outta high school who could stay on the court because he had no idea how to play and stayed in foul trouble. Where is the 20 pt player of the bench? Fred Carter was only there for 14 games Doc's first yr when Doc got there!!!!! DOPE!!!!! And mcGinnis average 14.2pts in the playoffs! You got your stats from the same site I did but you chose to only post half truths to try to prove your argument. SMH
 
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If you are arguing against Doc, you can't turn around and use him in your argument... DOPE!

DUMBFUCK, I'm arguing against "Doc" being considered the ONLY significant player on the team. He had two All-Stars starting with him and a future one as a 6th man.
 
DUMBFUCK, I'm arguing against "Doc" being considered the ONLY significant player on the team. He had several All-Stars by his side.

So it's 2 not 3 dickless! He had role players, do you know the difference between role players and significant players? obviously not. Hell, you barely know who was on the teams with him.
 
Ever heard of Lloyd Free??? (And who said there was a current 20 PPG player "on the bench?")



Actually he was. He got traded away in mid-season. DOPE!!!

Free average 16.3 a game the year the went to the finals and Carter only played 14 games with the sixers that season. Mid season would be 41.:smh:
 
So it's 2 not 3 dickless!

It's 3 in the starting line-up, fool. Erving is part of the line-up.

He had role players, do you know the difference between role players and significant players?

McGinnis and Collins weren't "role players," shithead. They were NBA All-Stars. And Lloyd Free was two years away from blowing up big-time, and was already an effective scorer off the bench.

How can someone like you be so dumb, and still be able to type and breathe at the same time???
 
Free average 16.3 a game the year the went to the finals ...

In just 28.9 MPG off the bench, idiot.

(That's only a slightly lower scoring average per minute than Erving's. Certainly as good as it gets coming off the bench.)
 
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It's 3 in the starting line-up, fool. Erving is part of the line-up.



McGinnis and Collins weren't "role players," shithead. They were NBA All-Stars. And Lloyd Free was two years away from blowing up big-time, and was already an effective scorer off the bench.

How can someone like you be so dumb, and still be able to type and breathe at the same time???



If your dumbass is still breathing I must be Ein-fukking-stein! Doug Collins was a lifetime 17.9ppg scorer. His best being 20. and his worst being 12. per game. That is a role player. A lot of cats make the all star team when other players are hurt. Doug was a good player but not great. As for Mcginnis, he went down hill every season he was with the sixers and was never what was expected when we game over from the pacers. He refused to be a team player when Doc got there and was shipped out 2 seasons later. Fred Carter, I can't believe you even brought him into the conversation, only played 14 games with Doc. Free in his 3 season with the sixer avrage 8.3, 16.3 & 15.7. He didn't average more than 20 ppg until the next season when he went to the Clippers. Check your fukking facts first, dickless. BTW Free was not an all star with the sixers!!
 
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