Michael Jackson: Epitome of a SELF HATING blackman

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"Who taught you to hate the color of your skin?

Who taught you to hate the texture of your hair?

Who taught you to hate the shape of your nose and the shape of your lips?
Who taught you to hate yourself from the top of your head to the soles of your feet?

Who taught you to hate your own kind? Who taught you to hate the race that you belong to so much so that you don't want to be around each other? -MALCOLM X

Ok, I'll say it...
Michael Jackson is a classic example of how some blacks in America have turned into...you know they hate themselves so much that they call themselves demeaning slave names like NIGGE*S,******* but this brother went beyond that by changing his looks and colour of his skin...But he was also a deeply flawed individual who lived a life of consistent and cowardly denial and evasion. For whatever messy psychological reasons, Jackson could never be honest about himself. At least we should be.

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I'm a big mike fan, and grew up listening to him but even as a child...........I always wondered what did he hate so much about being "black"..........just couldn't understand
 
He claims to be suffering from vitiligo but he failed to say that it was due to excessive skin bleaching, and we all know thathe use of mercury in skin whitening products is also thought to cause liver and kidney damage and as well as mercury poisoning. As awareness of the effects of these chemicals increases along, companies are constantly seeking to use other potentially harmful chemicals in their products such as Kojic acid.

So why would a mature black man want to use tese sort of products just to look white?

more?

well,this is a black man who spent the rest of his life trying to avoid adulthood through gross self-indulgence and vapid fantasy. Even creepier than the plastic surgery were the rumours from the Neverland ranch, the 'sleepovers' with barely pubescent boys, which he described as 'a beautiful thing'.
 
I can answer Brotha Malcolm's question. The answer to that will be....


JOE JACKSON! Because of this man, Michael grew up hating himself from all the constant teasing and criticizing about his appearance from his own FATHER!..and also the constant abuse! Wouldn't you see yourself in a flawed perspective if your own parents criticized and teased you about your appearance? Check the whole family out, Mike wasn't the only one to have some work done on himself..everybody did. Mike just took to the extreme because since he was the youngest and most talented he was on the receiving end of Joe's wrath most of the time. O and the guy had some type of skin disease, remember? Stop with all this self righteous bullshit and do some research!
 
Ok, I'll say it...
Michael Jackson is a classic example of how some blacks in America have turned into...

Dude, black people all over the world have been negatively affected by the artificial standards of beauty that white people have imposed on the rest of the non-white world and this is epitomised in all of the crazy shit that many of us do to ourselves all in the name of living up to that caucasoid aesthetic ideal.

It's not just about "blacks in America".


you know they hate themselves so much that they call themselves demeaning slave names like NIGGE*S,******* but this brother went beyond that by changing his looks and colour of his skin...

The metamorphosis of Michael Jackson from handsome black man to walking caricature of a Manga character was truly one of the most tragic things to have observed over the years but he only did what so many of us have blindly done by not accepting the beauty that the divine creator has birthed in all of us.

Skin lightning creams and weaves are exceedingly popular in Africa and many parts of India plus you have many Japanese people going to get plastic surgery just to remove the epicantic folds under their eyes just to look more Western.

Why do you think this is?

Michael Jackson had the money and wealth to indulge in what he probably saw as being the grandest experiment of them all.

As time went on, I'd like to believe that he eventually saw the true folly of this adventure into racelessness and no doubt began to feel less and less happy with the stranger staring back at him from within the mirror.


But he was also a deeply flawed individual who lived a life of consistent and cowardly denial and evasion. For whatever messy psychological reasons, Jackson could never be honest about himself. At least we should be.

Nope.

What's actually cowardly is to start thread after thread lambasting a man for personifying the truly deadly cocktail of psychological abuse during childhood and white supremacy which has affected the way that nearly all non-white people perceive themselves.

Being honest with oneself can only be enabled when one has the ability to have empathy for other people and so far, I've seen no evidence of this in any of your thrreads/posts pertaining to Michael Jackson.

 
I can answer Brotha Malcolm's question. The answer to that will be....


JOE JACKSON! Because of this man, Michael grew up hating himself from all the constant teasing and criticizing about his appearance from his own FATHER!..and also the constant abuse! Wouldn't you see yourself in a flawed perspective if your own parents criticized and teased you about your appearance? Check the whole family out, Mike wasn't the only one to have some work done on himself..everybody did. Mike just took to the extreme because since he was the youngest and most talented he was on the receiving end of Joe's wrath most of the time. O and the guy had some type of skin disease, remember? Stop with all this self righteous bullshit and do some research!

Bro, I doubt the OP has any real interest in researching anything.

It's far easier far easier to cast blame as opposed to looking at the real cause of the problem. :smh:

The horror of Michael Jacksons "transformation" over the years was jarring and scarring to many in equal measure but that in no way takes away from the fact that he was one of us and I'll be damned if I throw him under the bus for the sake of appearing conciously black
 

Dude, black people all over the world have been negatively affected by the artificial standards of beauty that white people have imposed on the rest of the non-white world and this is epitomised in all of the crazy shit that many of us do to ourselves all in the name of living up to that caucasoid aesthetic ideal.

It's not just about "blacks in America".




The metamorphosis of Michael Jackson from handsome black man to walking caricature of a Manga character was truly one of the most tragic things to have observed over the years but he only did what so many of us have blindly done by not accepting the beauty that the divine creator has birthed in all of us.

Skin lightning creams and weaves are exceedingly popular in Africa and many parts of India plus you have many Japanese people going to get plastic surgery just to remove the epicantic folds under their eyes just to look more Western.

Why do you think this is?

Michael Jackson had the money and wealth to indulge in what he probably saw as being the grandest experiment of them all.

As time went on, I'd like to believe that he eventually saw the true folly of this adventure into racelessness and no doubt began to feel less and less happy with the stranger staring back at him from within the mirror.




Nope.

What's actually cowardly is to start thread after thread lambasting a man for personifying the truly deadly cocktail of psychological abuse during childhood and white supremacy which has affected the way that nearly all non-white people perceive themselves.

Being honest with oneself can only be enabled when one has the ability to have empathy for other people and so far, I've seen no evidence of this in any of your thrreads/posts pertaining to Michael Jackson.


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Its mad funny how the OP uses Malcolm X to try and make a point when Malcolm was all about what you DID not just what you looked like.

Even now all of the shit talking is proof that most of the people around him only cared about what they could get from him.

Fake ass e-revolutionaries kill me.

MJ gave over 300 Million to various causes without pimping it for publicity.

For fucks sake MJ kept the NOI around him on a regular basis ( the perfect move if you wanna become white :rolleyes:)

I hated the way MJ looked after the 80's but keep it real.....he made power moves.

While black people joke about him....he buys the Beatles catalog and pisses all of the major industry power brokers off!!

The horror of Michael Jacksons "transformation" over the years was jarring and scarring to many in equal measure but that in no way takes away from the fact that he was one of us and I'll be damned if I throw him under the bus for the sake of appearing conciously black

Co Mu'fucking Sign!!!


Some of ya'll act like you're scared to call MJ a BLACKMAN!!!
 
He claims to be suffering from vitiligo but he failed to say that it was due to excessive skin bleaching.

''blah, blah, blah, he had vitiligo, blah, blah, blah, skin bleaching, yada, yada, i know if i try 2 use science to back that up, i'll get clowned, blah, blah....i'm an attention whore, yada, yada, somebody help me" :rolleyes:
 
I disagree

Mike had some deep rooted issues that went beyond hating his black features.

Im talking deep psychological issues very far from normal.

He butchered his face to the point of not even looking HUMAN.

Mike is the perfect example of what we should value.

Fame (and no one is more famous than Mike) vs happiness.....which one?
 
I disagree

Mike had some deep rooted issues that went beyond hating his black features.

Im talking deep psychological issues very far from normal.

He butchered his face to the point of not even looking HUMAN.

Mike is the perfect example of what we should value.

Fame (and no one is more famous than Mike) vs happiness.....which one?

I can answer Brotha Malcolm's question. The answer to that will be....


JOE JACKSON! Because of this man, Michael grew up hating himself from all the constant teasing and criticizing about his appearance from his own FATHER!..and also the constant abuse! Wouldn't you see yourself in a flawed perspective if your own parents criticized and teased you about your appearance? Check the whole family out, Mike wasn't the only one to have some work done on himself..everybody did. Mike just took to the extreme because since he was the youngest and most talented he was on the receiving end of Joe's wrath most of the time. O and the guy had some type of skin disease, remember? Stop with all this self righteous bullshit and do some research!



Real talk!


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http://wendyista.blogspot.com/2009/06/deepak-chopra-says-michael-died-from.html
 
stop gossiping like bitches not one of you knew him judgmental fucking fagshe had black and white friends shit half you fags in here only date red bones whats the difference ?!?!!?!? talk about what you know is fact which aint much
 

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have been negatively affected by the artificial standards of beauty that white people have imposed on the rest of the non-white world and this is epitomised in all of the crazy shit that many of us do to ourselves all in the name of living up to that caucasoid aesthetic ideal.

It's not just about ]"blacks in America"
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I used the word SOME and didnt say ALL. I would like to disagree with you that black people all over the world have been negatively affected...if you wanna tell me we've been victims of colonialism and slavery yes, but not every single black person ates themselves...hell, I spent months in Africa and i never met anyone who called themselves NIGGAS..or NIGGE*S and for that matter i met so many people who were proud of being BLACK AFRICANS

few writers have focused on the devastating and debilitating effects of the mindset on the emotions of the bearer as Carter G. Woodson. He is in most probability a pioneer in this field of enquiry seen in the manner he addresses this condition in his book "The Mis-Education of the Negro". Later, Dr Na'im Akbar would follow in his footsteps when he painstakingly outlined the same psychological effects in his book "Chains and Images of psychological slavery" and thats what we as people are battling with here...and looks like MJ couldn't shake off those chains


The metamorphosis of Michael Jackson from handsome black man to walking caricature of a Manga character was truly one of the most tragic things to have observed over the years but he only did what so many of us have blindly done by not accepting the beauty that the divine creator has birthed in all of us.


well, unfortunately, a miasma of squalor, mystery and downright dishonesty has swirled about Michael Jackson for years and despite the weirdest and most implausible denials, we all know the star long ago set out to look like a white man - or even a white woman.Yet he and his croneys always insisted his changing skin tone was due to the condition vitiligo - this causes patchy depigmentation. It does not turn black people white.


Skin lightning creams and weaves are exceedingly popular in Africa and many parts of India plus you have many Japanese people going to get plastic surgery just to remove the epicantic folds under their eyes just to look more Western.


mhh but did you know that when you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand there or go yonder. He or she will find his 'proper place' and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary and fo MJ who grew up in a predominantly SELF LOVING BLACKS atmosphere should have known better than what he & his family members did to their bodies.

Why do you think this is? Michael Jackson had the money and wealth to indulge in what he probably saw as being the grandest experiment of them all.

what do i think this is? well i think he (Michael Jackson) was an influential example of that terrible form of self-loathing called cosmetic skin whitening, and his contribution to the cause of black equality was wholly negative

As time went on, I'd like to believe that he eventually saw the true folly of this adventure into racelessness and no doubt began to feel less and less happy with the stranger staring back at him from within the mirror.

Its worth adding that this SELF HATE mindset certainly has as much a blindfolding effect as it brainwashes. Above all, it induces an inferiority complex where Africans end up hating blackness and anything that relates to it and comparing the crumbling, ravaged pseudo-features of the middle-aged recluse with the happy, smiling little black boy of the early Jackson 5 is heartbreaking.


Nope. What's actually cowardly is to start thread after thread lambasting a man for personifying the truly deadly cocktail of psychological abuse during childhood and white supremacy which has affected the way that nearly all non-white people perceive themselves.Being honest with oneself can only be enabled when one has the ability to have empathy for other people and so far, I've seen no evidence of this in any of your thrreads/posts pertaining to Michael Jackson.

Ohh please give me a break! it the truth and maybe some wont like to hear it but thats the way it is...you mentioned his parents but i think for someone like Joe the logical place for decolonization of Michael Jackson's mindset would been home with parents taking the lead. The early years 0-11 is the crucial time to inculcate our values values. And without a culture that enforces our ideals, many of our people will still be vulnerable to white ideals just like MJ. Hence what we really need is to make changes to our culture, to make sure that we have a culture that is not only strong but that extols our values and not theirs. Right now, black culture is more like an off shot of European culture. We take what their culture say, tweek it a little and then proceed to follow these norms as if they originated with us.

Just to add, the reason why we have been unable to get rid of self-hatred is not from a lack of available information on the subject. It is our own "culture" which is holding us back. For instance, with the hair situation, how are you going to get the majority of black women to wear their natural hair, when our culture tells them that afro hair is bad hair and that getting a relaxer is more normal than going natural?

I don't even find it strange that black women are more comfortable with dying their hair the lightest shade of blond than they are with wearing an afro. Not only does white culture see the former as better but our own culture, tells us that what is white is best and therefore we should be more ready to go blond while steering clear of afros. Many black women who try to wear natural hair will face resistance from not only hair dressers but sometimes their family members as well. How many blonded up black women will ever face that kind of resistance?

What a shame!
 
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What MJ was guilty of is hating what he saw in the mirror. It wasn't his skin he hated it was the image of his father. He hated is father so much it led him to live a lifestyle that surpassed bizarre.

The skin disease Vitiligo is what prompted MJ to speedup the process to even out his skin tone, not the self hate in the sense usually associated with self hate.

As for the hair straightening and plastic surgeries more hatred of his father. Although Joe Jackson may have had his kids best interest at heart but MJ never forgave his father for taking away his childhood. The millions didn't matter.

The hate went even further as MJ hired a white man to sire his kids, then MJ claimed them as his own. Think about the odds of a black man fathering a child with white skin, blue eyes and blond hair, its genetically impossible.

In MJ's eyes no image of Joe Jackson would ever walk the planet if he had anything to do with it. There was hate but not for the reason Boro has given.
 
What MJ was guilty of is hating what he saw in the mirror. It wasn't his skin he hated it was the image of his father. He hated is father so much it led him to live a lifestyle that surpassed bizarre.

The skin disease Vitiligo is what prompted MJ to speedup the process to even out his skin tone, not the self hate in the sense usually associated with self hate.

As for the hair straightening and plastic surgeries more hatred of his father. Although Joe Jackson may have had his kids best interest at heart but MJ never forgave his father for taking away his childhood. The millions didn't matter.

The hate went even further as MJ hired a white man to sire his kids, then MJ claimed them as his own. Think about the odds of a black man fathering a child with white skin, blue eyes and blond hair, its genetically impossible.

In MJ's eyes no image of Joe Jackson would ever walk the planet if he had anything to do with it. There was hate but not for the reason Boro has given.

Dont tell me that he suffered from Post Traumatic Slavery Syndrome.
 
I love how some of you make excuses for everything.

Everyone has a story or struggle, even if it's different one

I don't want to see any of you criticize ANY person black or white with these excuses as if we aren't adults and have some control over our lives. But I guess it's ok to criticize and belittle people when they're alive :cool:
 
I'm going to repeat what al sharpton said on steve harvey's radio show.

"WE ARE ALL OF DIFFERENT TRIBES BUT WE ARE ALL ONE PEOPLE"

in other words we need to stop trying to define what black is, because black comes in all shapes and colors. If i had to define what being black is, it's being proud of yourself,culture and history.
 
I love how some of you make excuses for everything.

Everyone has a story or struggle, even if it's different one

I don't want to see any of you criticize ANY person black or white with these excuses as if we aren't adults and have some control over our lives. But I guess it's ok to criticize and belittle people when they're alive :cool:

they make every excuse under the fucking sun
-his father
-he had mental issues

however the hoodrat down the block that gets blond hair, ah she hates herself
 
Next week the same muthafuckas making excuses will be criticizing Tyler Perry, Bill Cosby, Oprah, Kobe, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson....

A bunch of fuckin hypocrites on this board :smh:
 
YOU ARE VERY FOOLISH. U HATE OTHERS. LISTEN TO THE THINGS HE SAID AND THE GOOD HE DID INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE MAN'S CROTCH. FAGGOT U!!!!!:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
No Disrespect To The Dead But.........
You Know,

I Didnt Like Post Thriller Mike
Even Then I Was Lookin At This Cat Like He Was Crazy
I Grew Up With This Music
From Day One And Loved It................


But I Am Tired Of Everybody Using Joe Jackson As A Scapegoat
For All Mike Crazy Bullshit.
If He Hated Joe And All That This Shit Caused
Then Why Keep Entertaining ?
Get Out Of The Shit And Move On With Your Life.

Mike Didnt Start Making All These Excuses Til
He Needed A Distraction From The Child Molestation Allegations.
He Married Lisa Marie Presley To Draw Attention Away
From The Possible Homosexual Allegations.

He Claimed To Have Vitaligo............bullshit !
I Had A Cousin With Itas Well As A Few Friends
It Looks Nothing Like That Way Mike Looked.
He Bleached His Skin.......period.
We wont even get into the other variations of mutilation.

The Part That Pissed Me Off The Most
Is The Lies And He Fact That People Believe Whatever You Say
When They Want To Believe You.
No Matter How Fucked Up It Is.
The Media And The World Have Fallen For It.
Hook, Line And Sinker.

How Do You Hate One Part
And Not The Other That Got You Where You Are ?
I Didnt See Him Saying
"joe Made Me All This Money And It Cause Me So Much Grief".

Further,
The Media Keeps Talking About
What A Shrewd Business Man He Was
Shrewd Business Men Understand Business And
Anyone Who Has Ever Done Any Real Business
Knows The Shit Is Not For The Weak.

Then The Media Says He Didnt Have A Childhood And
Never Grew Up So Thats Why He Acts Like A Child.

Business Is Not For People Who Supposedly Act Like A Child
And Need To Be Handled With Kid Gloves.
Mike Had The World "snowed".

R.i.p. Mike
But I Didnt Fall For The Oki-doke
 
No Disrespect To The Dead But.........
You Know,

I Didnt Like Post Thriller Mike
Even Then I Was Lookin At This Cat Like He Was Crazy
I Grew Up With This Music
From Day One And Loved It................


But I Am Tired Of Everybody Using Joe Jackson As A Scapegoat
For All Mike Crazy Bullshit.
If He Hated Joe And All That This Shit Caused
Then Why Keep Entertaining ?
Get Out Of The Shit And Move On With Your Life.

Mike Didnt Start Making All These Excuses Til
He Needed A Distraction From The Child Molestation Allegations.
He Married Lisa Marie Presley To Draw Attention Away
From The Possible Homosexual Allegations.

He Claimed To Have Vitaligo............bullshit !
I Had A Cousin With Itas Well As A Few Friends
It Looks Nothing Like That Way Mike Looked.
He Bleached His Skin.......period.
We wont even get into the other variations of mutilation.

The Part That Pissed Me Off The Most
Is The Lies And He Fact That People Believe Whatever You Say
When They Want To Believe You.
No Matter How Fucked Up It Is.
The Media And The World Have Fallen For It.
Hook, Line And Sinker.

How Do You Hate One Part
And Not The Other That Got You Where You Are ?
I Didnt See Him Saying
"joe Made Me All This Money And It Cause Me So Much Grief".

Further,
The Media Keeps Talking About
What A Shrewd Business Man He Was
Shrewd Business Men Understand Business And
Anyone Who Has Ever Done Any Real Business
Knows The Shit Is Not For The Weak.

Then The Media Says He Didnt Have A Childhood And
Never Grew Up So Thats Why He Acts Like A Child.

Business Is Not For People Who Supposedly Act Like A Child
And Need To Be Handled With Kid Gloves.
Mike Had The World "snowed".

R.i.p. Mike
But I Didnt Fall For The Oki-doke

Preach mofo preach

Fuckas buying Mike lies, and giving him excuses because they are blinded by the music.
 
Thanks for the new and revolutionary ideas, we've never heard this before! Yeah start a new thread about it!

Fucking moron, 1 star, use search.
 
No Disrespect To The Dead But.........
You Know,

I Didnt Like Post Thriller Mike
Even Then I Was Lookin At This Cat Like He Was Crazy
I Grew Up With This Music
From Day One And Loved It................


But I Am Tired Of Everybody Using Joe Jackson As A Scapegoat
For All Mike Crazy Bullshit.
If He Hated Joe And All That This Shit Caused
Then Why Keep Entertaining ?
Get Out Of The Shit And Move On With Your Life.

Mike Didnt Start Making All These Excuses Til
He Needed A Distraction From The Child Molestation Allegations.
He Married Lisa Marie Presley To Draw Attention Away
From The Possible Homosexual Allegations.

He Claimed To Have Vitaligo............bullshit !
I Had A Cousin With Itas Well As A Few Friends
It Looks Nothing Like That Way Mike Looked.
He Bleached His Skin.......period.
We wont even get into the other variations of mutilation.

The Part That Pissed Me Off The Most
Is The Lies And He Fact That People Believe Whatever You Say
When They Want To Believe You.
No Matter How Fucked Up It Is.
The Media And The World Have Fallen For It.
Hook, Line And Sinker.

How Do You Hate One Part
And Not The Other That Got You Where You Are ?
I Didnt See Him Saying
"joe Made Me All This Money And It Cause Me So Much Grief".

Further,
The Media Keeps Talking About
What A Shrewd Business Man He Was
Shrewd Business Men Understand Business And
Anyone Who Has Ever Done Any Real Business
Knows The Shit Is Not For The Weak.

Then The Media Says He Didnt Have A Childhood And
Never Grew Up So Thats Why He Acts Like A Child.

Business Is Not For People Who Supposedly Act Like A Child
And Need To Be Handled With Kid Gloves.
Mike Had The World "snowed".

R.i.p. Mike
But I Didnt Fall For The Oki-doke

I see a lot of you niggas skipped psychology in school. Your childhood experiences is what shapes your ideology and your view of the world. So to say Joe played no part and that Mike was just born crazy is utter bullshit. Mike never connected with reality ever, he was star almost since birth and never really had interactions with people without being the "Michael Jackson". Having people going crazy over you from childhood to death can be very traumatizing towards your psyche.
 
I'm a big mike fan, and grew up listening to him but even as a child...........I always wondered what did he hate so much about being "black"..........just couldn't understand

not "self-hate" as stated by the OP, but RATHER self-hatred for his dad/saw an interview a longtime ago where his brothers spoke about how much mike hated "joe's nose" etc...
 
I can answer Brotha Malcolm's question. The answer to that will be....


JOE JACKSON! Because of this man, Michael grew up hating himself from all the constant teasing and criticizing about his appearance from his own FATHER!..and also the constant abuse! Wouldn't you see yourself in a flawed perspective if your own parents criticized and teased you about your appearance? Check the whole family out, Mike wasn't the only one to have some work done on himself..everybody did. Mike just took to the extreme because since he was the youngest and most talented he was on the receiving end of Joe's wrath most of the time. O and the guy had some type of skin disease, remember? Stop with all this self righteous bullshit and do some research!

Exactly! If you're a little boy growing up in the spotlight and your own father is constantly telling you that you are ugly and have a big nose you are going to believe it. That kind of damage takes a lot to overcome and MJ lived in the spotlight where his looks were always on display. He conformed to the European standard of beauty because his father and the media in this country deems it to be more acceptable. He may have had regrets later in life about the surgeries and skin bleaching. The human psyche is very fragile and it is even more fragile in a child. We can't judge Michael Jackson because we never walked in his shoes.
 
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